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It's Utah's turn: Local voters favor Mitt and Obama, poll shows
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Only Conservative Left | 12:41 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Romney is the only Conservative left in the race (with any hope of winning).
McCain was trying to join the Democratic ticket only a short few years ago and
has never been there when the Conservative causes came calling. I guess we will
see if there are enough conservatives that will "plug their noses" and
vote for a mormon conservative, or if they will "plug their noses" and
vote for a liberal. Tought call for some.
Anonymous | 1:04 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Great news for Mitt!!!
Barack Who? | 1:09 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Mitt Romney I know! But who is Barack?
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No Conservatives Left | 2:02 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Actually there are no conservatives left in the race (with any hope of winning).
Romney is the most conservative of the bunch but I wouldn't really call
him a true conservative. But we do with what we have.
Robert from NC | 2:28 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
In my opinion, it seems that the news media is determined to crown someone
President before more than a small percentage of voters have cast their ballots.
Mitt was ahead until the Florida voting, but the News Media would hardly mention
it. The minute McCain gets a lead he is refered to in every venue as the
"Front Runner". While Mitt had scored a couple of early victories, the
News Media was saying he should quit. Their motto must be "Quit while
you're ahead" but only if you are a Mormon.
The next round is Super Tuesday in which 23 states vote for Presidential candidates. They are trying like crazy to put out false polls which give McCain the lead. They are in truth trying to keep Conservatives from making a choice. Since this race began Mitt has won the Conservative Vote.
I sincerely hope that the Southern Conservative vote is not swayed into voting for Huckabee because he is a "Good Ole Boy". He has no chance of winning. Huckabee has condemned Mitt at every opportunity, but has said nothing adverse about McCain. Does he really think McCain will pick him as a running mate? HOW STUPID!
The next round is Super Tuesday in which 23 states vote for Presidential candidates. They are trying like crazy to put out false polls which give McCain the lead. They are in truth trying to keep Conservatives from making a choice. Since this race began Mitt has won the Conservative Vote.
I sincerely hope that the Southern Conservative vote is not swayed into voting for Huckabee because he is a "Good Ole Boy". He has no chance of winning. Huckabee has condemned Mitt at every opportunity, but has said nothing adverse about McCain. Does he really think McCain will pick him as a running mate? HOW STUPID!
James | 2:35 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
I was excited to read about this poll. Romney won Maine with over 50% of the
vote. McCain was second and had less than half as much as Romney. The republican
base is slowly rallying around our man Romney. Mitt is the most qualified of any
candidate and his education and success record are unmatched by any candidate.
He just needs more name recognition. I hope he does well in Arizona and
California. McCain has a lot of opposition from the GOP leaders in Arizona. The
Washington Post printed an article Saturday where the Chairman of McCain's
local district referred to McCain as a liar. This man may not be as bad a Huck,
but he would be a terrible nominee.
Romney '08
Romney '08
True Patriot | 5:22 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
On the debates the other night Mccain and Romney called each other a liberal and
you know what they were both right. The only true conservative still running is
Ron Paul as a ten term term congressman from Texas. He has been a staunch
patriot for following the constitution. He has never voted for a tax increase.
He believes in a smaller government and that my friend is a true Conservative.
He wants to stop the looting of the social security fund, and he opposed all the
so called free trade agreements that lets other countrys dump food and products
on us. Also he wants to bring the troops home, now. No more no bid contracts for
Halliburton. He also voted against the patriot act. I will vote for Ron Paul if
I have to write his name on the ballot. I will never again vote for the lesser
of two evils. Because do you know what you still get? EVIL. He has taken 2nd in
2 states Nevada and Louisiana with virtualy no positive media coverage. Check
out his voting record,and you'll find out he says what he means and he
means what he says.
Billy | 6:13 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Romney was not a conservative LAST year. The guy's flip flopping purely
for his Presidential run makes him either politically opportunistic the last 6
years in Massachusetts or in the primary this year
Geezer | 7:16 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Ten years ago, if you had told me Utahns would vote for the former Governor of
Massachusetts, I wouldn't have believed it.
Anonymous | 7:33 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
America need to be reunited- Thats why this LDS conservative is voting Obama!
Tai H. | 7:49 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Of course "local voters favor Mitt and Obama"! Utah is one of the
most liberal states in the nation. During the Republican Revolution, Bill Orton
was still elected to congress, three consecutive terms.
When Dick Cheney gave the commencement speech at BYU, it was the Marriot School of Mismanagement that picketed the event.
Mitt Romney represents the worst in liberalism. His father walked out on Barry Goldwater's convention speech. His mother was pro-abortion. His wife gave money to planned parenthood. The Romneys are liars and liberals.
Mitt Romney himself voted for Paul Tsongas, rather than support Reagan's VP. Mitt Romney is a horrible person.
When Dick Cheney gave the commencement speech at BYU, it was the Marriot School of Mismanagement that picketed the event.
Mitt Romney represents the worst in liberalism. His father walked out on Barry Goldwater's convention speech. His mother was pro-abortion. His wife gave money to planned parenthood. The Romneys are liars and liberals.
Mitt Romney himself voted for Paul Tsongas, rather than support Reagan's VP. Mitt Romney is a horrible person.
russ | 7:54 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
This is news? Oh the part about Obama is. In fact, it is like watching a
little bit of water seep through the big cement dam. True, Hillary has been
evilized by the right wing and the know-nothings and the jealous of her law
degree and touch with fame, but Obama is an attractive, positive force for
change and thus he will carry Utah. He might do very very well across
America.
Oh Mitt? In a landslide? Really. Shocking news. In the Mormon theocracy a Mormon wins big. And you wasted ink and paper on this?
Gosh, some will call him a phenom, a meteorite, a... dare I say it, a god-send?
Outside Zion? Uh, the wind doesn't blow that way. Sorry.
Oh Mitt? In a landslide? Really. Shocking news. In the Mormon theocracy a Mormon wins big. And you wasted ink and paper on this?
Gosh, some will call him a phenom, a meteorite, a... dare I say it, a god-send?
Outside Zion? Uh, the wind doesn't blow that way. Sorry.
liberal means reform | 9:29 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Only Conservative Left -
I am afraid the naive neocon above is in for a rude awakening come November as America wakes up to the intense damage our modern American conservative movement has wreaked up our nation.
Folding one's arms and doing nothing while things go down the drain is a good indicator of how impotent blind authoritarianism really is.
I am afraid the naive neocon above is in for a rude awakening come November as America wakes up to the intense damage our modern American conservative movement has wreaked up our nation.
Folding one's arms and doing nothing while things go down the drain is a good indicator of how impotent blind authoritarianism really is.
Bob Carter | 9:36 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Someone put a poll in the field in Utah with regards the republicans? Seriously?
This state is so going to give romney a coronation, is so firmly behind 'the right man' (it's NOT a religious thing, surely that's a coincidence).
Wow, and yet someone polled. Pigs must be flying, and i'd better buy a (wyoming) lottery ticket.
This state is so going to give romney a coronation, is so firmly behind 'the right man' (it's NOT a religious thing, surely that's a coincidence).
Wow, and yet someone polled. Pigs must be flying, and i'd better buy a (wyoming) lottery ticket.
Romney really blew it. | 9:51 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Keep sending those checks to Romney Utah. Come on. Together you and Romney can
hit 100 million down the drain!
russ | 10:05 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Mitt Romney refuses to rule out torture, specifically waterboarding, as a way we
treat defenseless prisoners. Defenseless, strapped down. Strap them down and
sadistically do with them what you want. Which Mormon doctrine is this?
Someone please let me know.
Now Christians know what to say and why. The word of the day is, "No." Just say "No." What would Jesus do? Torture? Please... where in the Bible is that? Or in the extra books that Mormons read and believe.
R U sure that Mitt is Mormon? Definitely not Christian.
We are better than torture. Yes, we can win this over the years by being smarter, quicker, faster, and more humane. And we will.
PS -- the CIA says that torture does not work. So which Mormon doctrine is Mitt following? Someone please lay out the doctrine?!
Someone please let me know.
Now Christians know what to say and why. The word of the day is, "No." Just say "No." What would Jesus do? Torture? Please... where in the Bible is that? Or in the extra books that Mormons read and believe.
R U sure that Mitt is Mormon? Definitely not Christian.
We are better than torture. Yes, we can win this over the years by being smarter, quicker, faster, and more humane. And we will.
PS -- the CIA says that torture does not work. So which Mormon doctrine is Mitt following? Someone please lay out the doctrine?!
Robert J. Stevens | 10:08 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Does Romney Represent Mormonism?
Where in the Book of Mormon does it justify pre-emptive aggressive strikes, and occupation of lands?
Rather it says we should fight for our lands, our liberties, and our freedoms which justifies the American revolutionary patriots and the Iraqi people.
One to two million Iraqi people have been killed since the start of this war. At one point do we start calling it a genocide?
In the meantime, Americans, like all people who fear, gave up their civil liberties without a fight. The President has trashed the constitution and the Bill of Rights--those documents that Mormons believe are God inspired and sacred scripture.
Romney also supports the President's decision to borrow three trillion dollars to fight undeclared wars. Where in Mormon doctrine does it say to borrow to the point where our children will be in bondage?
Where in the Book of Mormon does it justify pre-emptive aggressive strikes, and occupation of lands?
Rather it says we should fight for our lands, our liberties, and our freedoms which justifies the American revolutionary patriots and the Iraqi people.
One to two million Iraqi people have been killed since the start of this war. At one point do we start calling it a genocide?
In the meantime, Americans, like all people who fear, gave up their civil liberties without a fight. The President has trashed the constitution and the Bill of Rights--those documents that Mormons believe are God inspired and sacred scripture.
Romney also supports the President's decision to borrow three trillion dollars to fight undeclared wars. Where in Mormon doctrine does it say to borrow to the point where our children will be in bondage?
Randy | 10:13 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Go Mitt.. McCain is to liberal for me.
Linda | 10:15 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Sen. Clinton has shown herself to be of poor character and judgment during this
campaign and before. One lie I caught was the lie she told about working for the
Children's Defense Fund out of law school rather than going into corporate
law. The story she told years ago was that she was denied a job in any corporate
law office due to gender discrimination. So which lie should we believe? It was
her lack of judgment, and an inability to stand up for what's right--taking
a safe and centralist stand--that were the reasons she voted to go to war. I
don't want to trade one unethical, opportunistic person in the White House
with the same kind of person which is Sen. Clinton. Sen. Obama is the clear
choice for president based on his integrity, honesty, his platform (yes, I have
read everything), his leadership and ability to get people to work together, and
his compassion to serve this country versus Hillary Clinton's purely
personal ambition. We will have a female president one day. But, it
shouldn't be Hillary Clinton. Not that woman!
liberal means change | 10:32 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
It's a sad day for America when you have so many people declaring they are
conservative (aka resisting change at all costs).
What do you suppose it is that they are conserving?
What do you suppose it is that they are conserving?
Alex | 10:35 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Good to hear Obama is leadig in the polls here. I hope this Tuesday shuts
Hillary out of the race, and starts Obama on his way to the White House.
Cory | 10:29 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
I am starting to feel the same way as Anonymous, I am what I would consider an
LDS conservative and I'm leaning towards Obama as well. I think Mitt is
great and it would be nice to have a person in the White House with the moral
standards of Mitt but I also think it's time for the country to feel more
united, I know that during the last 8 years of Bush I have felt anything but
united.
Obama seems to have LDS standards even though he is not a member and I feel he would make an excellent president. As long as it comes down to Mitt and Obama I think we'll have an brighter four years ahead of us than what we've been going through.
Obama seems to have LDS standards even though he is not a member and I feel he would make an excellent president. As long as it comes down to Mitt and Obama I think we'll have an brighter four years ahead of us than what we've been going through.
Kim | 10:46 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Governor Huntsman endorsed John McCain. Hmmmmm, could there be some political
jealousy here???? I wonder what he thinks when his entire state votes for
Romney in a landslide - more votes than he, as a Governor, ever got from the
voters.
Rudy's goof - good? | 11:06 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Rudy screwed up thinking that the early primaries were of no consequence if he
took Florida. What a boner of a plan that turned out to be. Now we're left
without a true conservative in the race (who has a chance of winning the
primary), which might turn out to be a blessing for Republicans.
McCain is close enough to center to get a lot of middle votes (the swing votes that decide elections), and both Clinton and Obama are far enough left to turn of enough of the middle vote. Let's hope this creates a coat-tail effect that gets the Congress back into the Republican's hands, or we'll for sure see a recession.
With all the good intentions that Democrats have towards helping the poor, their inability to understand how money works in a society causes them to do the dumbest things, such as federally-funded programs that do nothing other than to raise taxes, and create a "livin' on the dole" society.
In the 60s and 70s, that help-the-poor attitude re-inslaved the U.S.'s minorities, this time economically instead of physically.
McCain is close enough to center to get a lot of middle votes (the swing votes that decide elections), and both Clinton and Obama are far enough left to turn of enough of the middle vote. Let's hope this creates a coat-tail effect that gets the Congress back into the Republican's hands, or we'll for sure see a recession.
With all the good intentions that Democrats have towards helping the poor, their inability to understand how money works in a society causes them to do the dumbest things, such as federally-funded programs that do nothing other than to raise taxes, and create a "livin' on the dole" society.
In the 60s and 70s, that help-the-poor attitude re-inslaved the U.S.'s minorities, this time economically instead of physically.
Freeman | 11:12 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
The same bloggers who are whining about Mitt not following Mormon doctrine on
issues such as torture and preemptive war are the same bloggers who would be
complaining if he acted on his Mormon beliefs. You can't have it both way
people. Which is it then? Do you want a president who does or does not act on
religious conviction? Do you need some help opening that can of worms?
liberal means changing course | 11:09 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
It is now crystal-clear that we can no longer "stay the course" as our
modern American conservative movement is rabidly and single-handedly aiding and
abetting the demise of this great country.
WE MUST HAVE CHANGE! AND IT MUST HAPPEN NOW!
WE MUST HAVE CHANGE! AND IT MUST HAPPEN NOW!
Re: russ | 11:13 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Dude - you really are a fool. Romney has clearly stated that he doesn't
support torture. Get your facts straight and look it up. Stop believing the
lies that McCain throws around.
Will | 11:22 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Way to go Russ and Robert J. Stevens. You have successfully given personal
attacks on Romney. People like you kill me. This is a political story, and so
really they should be political comments. Could we, just for once, NOT bring The
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints out of it.. just for once?
C'mon, it's really pathetic that you have to make a personal attack on
him and his religion. You write nothing to support your comments, you just
attack. What are you, McCain supporters? I think you guys need to get a grip. If
the republican nominee is going to take this country anywhere, it cannot be
McCain, Huckabee, nor Paul. McCain is too moderate and liberal, Huckabee not too
far behind him, and Paul has some good things to say, but is to stuck on crying
about the past instead of coming up with reasonable solutions for the future.
Romney has what it takes to be president. He will lead this country with the
correct values. Both comments I read have no support as far as I've studied
and thus are irrelevent and pathetic attack add on Romney and the chuch. Good
job guys!
Re: Robert J. Stevens | 11:23 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
"Does Romney Represent Mormonism?"
Duh - No! He never has put himself forward as a representative of Mormonism. He has made it very clear that he isn't running as a Mormon but as a PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE! Stop trying to weave in scripture and church doctrine into politics and for once give Mitt the benefit of the doubt that he is trying to stand for what is best for America. Your self-righteous comments will get you nowhere, that is for sure. Please, just open your eyes to reality for once in your life.
Duh - No! He never has put himself forward as a representative of Mormonism. He has made it very clear that he isn't running as a Mormon but as a PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE! Stop trying to weave in scripture and church doctrine into politics and for once give Mitt the benefit of the doubt that he is trying to stand for what is best for America. Your self-righteous comments will get you nowhere, that is for sure. Please, just open your eyes to reality for once in your life.
Anonymous | 11:26 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
You vote for somebody that has LDS standards? Geez, give me a break. It is
ridiculous to base votes, or anything based on LDS standards. This is why nobody
wants to live in Provo, these so-called standards is bad pub for Utah.
Obama over Romney.
Obama over Romney.
Will | 11:29 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Re: Cory
I was thinking the same thing. I'm young and just trying to establish my position in politics and understand a little more. I think that McCain is definately too liberal, and it scares me that the Media I feel is putting him in more of a position to win the nominee. I thought, "well, if McCain is the nominee then I'll go for Obama." I talked to my dad and he said something that I felt was wise. He told me that Obama is still a liberal democrat. He seems real sharp, don't get me wrong, but he still supports abortion, same-sex marraige and other things that I am strongly against. For that reason I will NOT vote for a liberal democrat. Liberal does mean change, and I feel that change is not good. Their changes are NOT things that will make the United States better. They give more freedom to do things that I feel will take this country down a whole we do not want it to go down. How far will it go? Same-sex marraiges, abortions, then what? People will come up with new evils, and the liberals will fight for them...
I was thinking the same thing. I'm young and just trying to establish my position in politics and understand a little more. I think that McCain is definately too liberal, and it scares me that the Media I feel is putting him in more of a position to win the nominee. I thought, "well, if McCain is the nominee then I'll go for Obama." I talked to my dad and he said something that I felt was wise. He told me that Obama is still a liberal democrat. He seems real sharp, don't get me wrong, but he still supports abortion, same-sex marraige and other things that I am strongly against. For that reason I will NOT vote for a liberal democrat. Liberal does mean change, and I feel that change is not good. Their changes are NOT things that will make the United States better. They give more freedom to do things that I feel will take this country down a whole we do not want it to go down. How far will it go? Same-sex marraiges, abortions, then what? People will come up with new evils, and the liberals will fight for them...
Darren Johnson | 11:31 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Congrats to Obama. I'm a conservative Obama supporter as well. If you
haven't heard of him before, I'd encourage you to check out his
website - he's the new JFK.
Don't just vote party lines this year Republicans! Check out Obama - he has a huge support base here for a reason. He's the real deal and can unite this country like no other candidate in the past 50 years. I respect Mitt a lot, but Obama is simply amazing.
Don't just vote party lines this year Republicans! Check out Obama - he has a huge support base here for a reason. He's the real deal and can unite this country like no other candidate in the past 50 years. I respect Mitt a lot, but Obama is simply amazing.
Anonymous | 11:32 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
a president or leader or king is supposed to serve the people and make choices
for their best interests despite his own beleifs. that explains why we was
pro-choice and etc. at that time he truly thought it was better for the people.
i think mitt will be a great president he truly wants to serve the people of america.
Mccain just wants to be at the head of the army...seriously, he would do anything. question, if you were in the army your whole young life and saw things you wanted to change what do you do? become the guy that makes the changes!!!! he ONLY cares about the war....economy, no. he just mentions that to balance out romney.
MCCAIN WANTS US TO PAY MORE TAXES TO FUND THE WAR!!!
ROMNEY IN'08
i think mitt will be a great president he truly wants to serve the people of america.
Mccain just wants to be at the head of the army...seriously, he would do anything. question, if you were in the army your whole young life and saw things you wanted to change what do you do? become the guy that makes the changes!!!! he ONLY cares about the war....economy, no. he just mentions that to balance out romney.
MCCAIN WANTS US TO PAY MORE TAXES TO FUND THE WAR!!!
ROMNEY IN'08
Anonymous | 11:42 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Isn't being a "conservative obama supporter" just a little bit
contradictory? Obama is not conservative. He was declared the most liberal
democrat in 2007. If you are conservative, then how can you support a liberal?
Mike | 11:47 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Will, with all due respect I am a republican that believes Romney does NOT have
what it takes to be president. He has flip-flopped on several key issues. You
want support: When running in MA he was pro-choice and pro-gun control, now he
opposes both. He says what he has to say to get elected. I don't want
another Bush that thinks lying is not a sin.
I may not agree with everything McCain believes, but I do believe he is telling me his honest opinions. We need an HONEST REPUBLICAN to lead. We need a man with conviction and integrity. We need McCain.
I may not agree with everything McCain believes, but I do believe he is telling me his honest opinions. We need an HONEST REPUBLICAN to lead. We need a man with conviction and integrity. We need McCain.
tony | 11:52 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
I'm surprised you did not list your methodology for this poll -- like
reputable pollsters do. Two other polls show Hillary Clinton way ahead.
Go, Hillary.
Go, Hillary.
Will | 11:55 a.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Mike, thank you for your commments, but as far as I can tell, you can't
seperate Romney and McCain in that aspect. McCain says what he has to say to get
support. I remember him saying that he felt he wasn't very experienced
about the economy and that he had to learn more. When that comment was brought
up in the Florida Debate, he denied it stongly. Then when they proved it to him,
he tried to weasle his way out of it and change the story. Romney is keeping
strong to what he believes. Romney has been in politics for how long compared to
McCain? Just think about that. So if you have a relatively new polititian that
is putting himself in position, and a "seasoned" politian trying to
put himself in position. It kinda makes a difference. McCain is very defensive.
I feel that when Romney brings up key points, that McCain feels insecure, and if
he doesn't, he sure shows it in a funny way, because then he tries to make
his pathetic sarcastic comments and follows it up with his goofy laugh. McCain
is McCains number one fan! Romney is a presidential candidate. Romney in 08!
Anonymous | 12:34 p.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Yes, I too am a "conservative Obama supporter." I guess there are more
important things we feel about conserving, like say- AMERICA! If you neocons
really think your silly squabbles over abortion and whos Jesus is better are
more important, then by all means stay the course! There won't be an
America left in which we can debate these issues.
I am tired of living in the Divided States.
I'm voting Obama.
I am tired of living in the Divided States.
I'm voting Obama.
Anonymous | 12:47 p.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Silly squabbles? You're right, abortion is a silly squabble. Morals are
silly squabbles, too. Doing the right thing is a silly squabble. This is fun.
Doesn't make any sense, but it's fun anyway. You my friend are not
conservative. It's considered liberalism, and IT is what will make America
fall. You're completely backwards in your thinking. I repeat, you cannot
have a "conservative" Obama supporter. It's contradictory.
It's like saying, I love the patriots, but I don't really support
Brady so I hope he plays bad.
Mike | 12:45 p.m. Feb. 3, 2008
To Will again:
Your comment that McCain says what he has to to get elected I must disagree with when considering what he says. When I hear McCain say to Detroit-jobs are not coming back, or when he stood up for the surge when everyone else opposed it, I consider that strength and conviction. Please note the surge comment almost forced him out of the race months ago.
To say Romney is new at politics is an error. He grew up in a political family and has run a VERY successful campaign to get elected as a republican gov in one of the MOST demo states. He is truly one of the most intelligent people in our country, and I would not hesitate to get business advise from this truly successful man.
These are both good men, but the President of the USA is different from that of a company president. I still believe McCain has more of what it takes to handle the complex issues facing our country today based upon his record.
It looks like Will and I may not agree on WHO to vote for, but we WILL be voting.
Hope everyone else does this Tuesday.
Your comment that McCain says what he has to to get elected I must disagree with when considering what he says. When I hear McCain say to Detroit-jobs are not coming back, or when he stood up for the surge when everyone else opposed it, I consider that strength and conviction. Please note the surge comment almost forced him out of the race months ago.
To say Romney is new at politics is an error. He grew up in a political family and has run a VERY successful campaign to get elected as a republican gov in one of the MOST demo states. He is truly one of the most intelligent people in our country, and I would not hesitate to get business advise from this truly successful man.
These are both good men, but the President of the USA is different from that of a company president. I still believe McCain has more of what it takes to handle the complex issues facing our country today based upon his record.
It looks like Will and I may not agree on WHO to vote for, but we WILL be voting.
Hope everyone else does this Tuesday.
Rombot. Not. | 1:06 p.m. Feb. 3, 2008
GO OBAMA!
GO HILLARY!
GO McCAIN!
GO HUCKABEE!
GO RON PAUL!
GO ANYBODY BUT ROMNEY.
I've never seen a creepier pseudo-politician.
GO HILLARY!
GO McCAIN!
GO HUCKABEE!
GO RON PAUL!
GO ANYBODY BUT ROMNEY.
I've never seen a creepier pseudo-politician.
Anonymous | 1:09 p.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Right- because endless war, big government, corporate welfare (beats welfare for
the poor), torture, wreckless spending, economic ruin, wide stances, spying on
American citizens all sound like things that will bring down America. Sounds
like your conservative morals are different from mine. Back to the Super Bowl.
just joe | 1:18 p.m. Feb. 3, 2008
It will take at least 100 years for Utah to accept a woman to lead anything.
russ | 1:18 p.m. Feb. 3, 2008
To Will and others: I believe that Mitt supports torture because I have a tv,
and I was watching it, with the sound up, and there on my color screen was Mitt
saying how he could not deny using torture because he did not want the enemy to
know how badly we would treat them, etc. when we get our hands on them. wink
wink
I just trust my ears and my eyes, which recently were both checked at a clinic, and I am 100% ok.
The problem with your paradigm is that you praise Mitt for his standards which you trace to Mormonism, and which he does too, and then when he refuses to condemn torture you think we are attacking his religion. Oh contraire!! Mormonism does not approve torture. Does it? But yet Mitt wraps himself in the Temple and Mormonism and then proceeds to wink wink at torture by American citizens. wink wink... wink
Either it is a duck or ain't. Ask Mitt to renounce torture. It is a simple thing to do. Yes or no. Up or down. In or out. America has signed numerous treaties saying we are legally bound to say NO.
Torture anyone?
I just trust my ears and my eyes, which recently were both checked at a clinic, and I am 100% ok.
The problem with your paradigm is that you praise Mitt for his standards which you trace to Mormonism, and which he does too, and then when he refuses to condemn torture you think we are attacking his religion. Oh contraire!! Mormonism does not approve torture. Does it? But yet Mitt wraps himself in the Temple and Mormonism and then proceeds to wink wink at torture by American citizens. wink wink... wink
Either it is a duck or ain't. Ask Mitt to renounce torture. It is a simple thing to do. Yes or no. Up or down. In or out. America has signed numerous treaties saying we are legally bound to say NO.
Torture anyone?
ANOnyMouS | 1:47 p.m. Feb. 3, 2008
I think that Utah is very ready to accept a woman for president, so long as it
isn't a flamboyant and indulgent woman such as Hilary who says some of the
most ridiculous things to please the public.
On a news program she said that "if she's lost any sleep during this campaign, it's not because of the campaign, but that '"when" I'm president I want what is best for MY country and MY people.'"
Puh-leeze!
On a news program she said that "if she's lost any sleep during this campaign, it's not because of the campaign, but that '"when" I'm president I want what is best for MY country and MY people.'"
Puh-leeze!
Freeman | 1:57 p.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Ok russ, I'll play your game. I'll ask Mitt to renounce torture when
you ask your candidates to renounce abortion. Not gonna happen? Well, then, if
I have to choose between someone who winks at terrorists being agressively
interrogated and someone who condones killing children in the womb, I'll go
for the "torture." Meanwhile, you can keep crying about how unjustly
the terrorists are being treated.
jan fisher | 2:01 p.m. Feb. 3, 2008
a few quotes from a highly regarded economic expert, and his thoughts on
Obama's economic plan:
Responding to Recession
by Paul Krugman
The Obama campaign�s initial response to the latest wave of bad economic news was, I�m sorry to say, disreputable: Mr. Obama�s top economic adviser claimed that the long-term tax-cut plan the candidate announced months ago is just what we need to keep the slump from �morphing into a drastic decline in consumer spending.� Hmm: claiming that the candidate is all-seeing, and that a tax cut originally proposed for other reasons is also a recession-fighting measure � doesn�t that sound familiar?
the Obama plan appears to contain none of the alternative energy initiatives that are in both the Edwards and Clinton proposals, and emphasizes across-the-board tax cuts over both aid to the hardest-hit families and help for state and local governments. I know that Mr. Obama�s supporters hate to hear this, but he really is less progressive than his rivals on matters of domestic policy.
Responding to Recession
by Paul Krugman
The Obama campaign�s initial response to the latest wave of bad economic news was, I�m sorry to say, disreputable: Mr. Obama�s top economic adviser claimed that the long-term tax-cut plan the candidate announced months ago is just what we need to keep the slump from �morphing into a drastic decline in consumer spending.� Hmm: claiming that the candidate is all-seeing, and that a tax cut originally proposed for other reasons is also a recession-fighting measure � doesn�t that sound familiar?
the Obama plan appears to contain none of the alternative energy initiatives that are in both the Edwards and Clinton proposals, and emphasizes across-the-board tax cuts over both aid to the hardest-hit families and help for state and local governments. I know that Mr. Obama�s supporters hate to hear this, but he really is less progressive than his rivals on matters of domestic policy.
SLMG | 2:07 p.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Get real Utah, Mitt Romney is not a conservative, look at his record, until his
run for the Presidency he was a very moderate Republican. Romney then flipped
into this ultra conservative mode to lure the Evangelical right that put George
W. Bush into the White house hoping to do the same. Vote for him if you think
he is the right person for the job (not because he is LDS too) but remember
under this ultra conservative mantel that he wears he is still a moderate not a
conservative.
If he were to elected, which I doubt, you would see a totally different person emerge because he would have to please the entire United States and that will take a moderate. Mitt has become quite famous for his flipping.
If he were to elected, which I doubt, you would see a totally different person emerge because he would have to please the entire United States and that will take a moderate. Mitt has become quite famous for his flipping.
Robert from NC | 2:39 p.m. Feb. 3, 2008
Why are so many people confused? Mitt Romney has been wrong in the past. He has
admitted it and changed in a positive way. McCain, Obama, and Clinton are wrong
now and don't have the guts to admit it and change. Anyone who has his mind
made up without listening to the facts is a fool. Abortion is something we can
stop tomorrow. Just simply put a $20,000 tax on it. Then only a few rich,
stupid, evil people would do it. As it is the poor and middle class, evil,
stupid people pay someone to murder their offspring.
Many people are waiting in line to get a child, but the powers that be are unwilling to let them advertise and pay for the prenatal care to get a baby. Other methods are used to promote the killing of the unborn children.
I know that Mitt Romney will address this awful situation. This has gone on so long that many of the children who were killed would now be paying taxes and supporting the same people who condoned their murders. This is a vicious circle that continues to cause labor and customer shortages.
Vote for Mitt. He will stop infanticide.
Many people are waiting in line to get a child, but the powers that be are unwilling to let them advertise and pay for the prenatal care to get a baby. Other methods are used to promote the killing of the unborn children.
I know that Mitt Romney will address this awful situation. This has gone on so long that many of the children who were killed would now be paying taxes and supporting the same people who condoned their murders. This is a vicious circle that continues to cause labor and customer shortages.
Vote for Mitt. He will stop infanticide.
JIM H | 2:54 p.m. Feb. 3, 2008
How silly to have a poll in Utah. The mormons are vicious towards anyone
(McCain & Huckabee) who would say something mean about Mitt.
And as far as considering a woman for president, she's not even qualified hold the priesthood.
And as far as considering a woman for president, she's not even qualified hold the priesthood.
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