Comments about ‘Illegal immigration in cross hairs’

Have we gone so far to errode our constitutional rights that a state government is turning into a police state? Have private businesses monitored? Who can shop in my store is my business!!! More red tape, more regulations, less free enterprise and big brother breathing down our necks! This is going too far. What is next the Utah Style version of Kristal Nacht?

Utah businesses have demonstrated that they're incapable of resisting the temptation of cheap labor brought by illegal aliens. Jobs are the primary reason illegals come here, and the businesses are more than happy to let taxpayers subsidize these low wages.

Several legislators have conducted polls of their constituents and have found more than 90% favor the state rolling back benefits to illegals.

We have waited 20 years for congress to enforce laws and the illegals, it is time for the states to take action. The only economic and job suffering will be with the illeglas being unemployed and business having to collect and pay all the taxes to the state income, the IRS, SSA, and medicare. Busineses will have to hire american workers again that do pay the taxes to support social and retirement programs. Business has been running and capitalizing on undocumented and unaccountable labor long enough. If anything, these laws will help the economy and social programs by removing these non tax paying workers from the work force. The illegal workforce send more of their earning back to Mexico than they spend in the economy so with americans back to work the economy will have working americans spending their earnings in the american economy, not sending it out of the country. What the states need from the federal government is aid in deporting these illegals back across the Rio Grande and support for the federal border guards to do their job and keep these illgals out of the US. Illegals should be putting more efforts in extricating themselves from america.

This bill MUst be passed in totality. Illegal aliens effect every aspect of our society in a negative way and must be accoutable to the laws which already exist. If anybody discounts the agenda that illegal aliens have I suggest you do an internet search on the words "atzlan" and "la raza". Perhaps this information will bring into focus the real intentions of illegal aliens. As Americans we must stop the "reconquista" or our children and grandchildren will pay a price that they will not be able to bear.

Looks good to me...The less they get, the less reason illegals have to stay here. Please don't let this one get bogged down. It worked in Oklahoma, why not here?

No, it's not just your business if the shoppers are "illegal." This is what's at the heart of the issue.

Let me ask you, if someone were to decide to break into your home (meaning they were there illegally) because they wanted to share in your standard of living, began eating your food, sleeping in your bed, wearing your clothes, running up your utility bills, getting medical care on your insurances, drive your car, run up bills on your credit cards, etc., how long would you allow this to continue?

Have we gone so far as to have 30% of the foreign-born here illegally? Have we lost control of our borders to the point where 85% of the Mexicans entering since 2000 are here illegally? Is it so bad in our country that we receive more illegals than legals annually? Pew Hispanic Center says YES to all of these.
I was particularly interested to hear the comments from Latino activists. You would think these bills were attacking them. They aren't. These measures are calculated to detect and penalize illegal aliens.
So, are you folks illegal alien apologists or defenders of legitimate Latino immigrants and citizens? Be honest about your agenda, please.
I know you want to stop discrimination of Latinos, but you don't accomplish that by defending illegals. Is that so hard to understand?

It's time to do something about this problem. I don't get what part of illegal people don't understand. Are we supposed to look the other way for all crimes or only the ones we can profit from?

FINALLY! The legislature is actually acting to mitigate the problem of illegal immigrants. Almost every single one of these proposals is a common sense approach to the "enforcement only" solution to EFFECTIVELY deter illegal immigrants. I think that we all know that "mass deportations" wouldn't work, but through this bill, a combination of denying jobs to illegals combined with better enforcement of the law will create quite a disincentive for people to come here illegally.

We already have racial profiling. Now it is being legislated into the private sector. Actions of this type should turn the stomach of common decency.

You're comparing apples & oranges. Kristal Nacht was violence against German CITIZENS. These are illegal aliens, and they committed a crime by entering the USA illegally--they don't have constitutional rights! You should make a trip to AZ and see what has happened to a once fair city because our leadership chose to look the other way while businesses took advantage of the cheap labor. It might open your eyes a little.

It appears that the constitutional rights of U. S. citizens will be upheld with this bill. Our elected officials are finally getting the message. Its the non-rights of illegal immigrants at issue here. The article clearly states that illegals can still shop in establishments such as yours: It won't go so far as to deny, for example, a Costco card to an undocumented immigrant. Big brother as you call government will be require to do its job by instituting a federal verification system for new hires by public employers and ensure that some illegal isnt hired for a federal job rather than a legal resident of the U. S. The bill requires federal eligibility verification for public benefits. Do you like your taxes to go to pay for illegal aliens health care and public benefits? It will be a class A misdemeanor for harboring, concealing or transporting illegal immigrants. You can boob all you want and blame the government for its attempt to errode (sic) our constitutional rights but it appears to me that they are finally doing what they should.

Liberty Jane: Nothing in this bill prohibits anyone form shopping. I does deny illegals the rights of citizenship that have been earned by legal immigrants. Forget "undocumented", they are ILLEGAL! If you don't like it, sneak into another country and see how you get treated. It is time to stop ignoring this invasaion and take back our country. If the feds won't do it, there is notheing in the constitution that prevents a state from protecting itself from foreign invasion. No, I am not prejudiced; I lived in a South American country for a number of years. However, I took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic." I still carry that oath with me today.

as i travel the state just how many good upstanding members are really benefiting from these people as you see them working everywhere..aren't they suppose uphold the law of the land?

The combination of identity theft and the perception that the new immigrants expect all of us to learn Spanish has caused the feelings that are showing up. If someone is here illegally, they should be treated like humans, but why should the rest of us ...
You fill in the gap. It is a fine line between being strong on illegals, and becoming hateful and prejudice. Something David Levitt has figured out. Lets get rid of Cannon, and maybe we can fix this nationally as well.

I think I understand where the frustration against this bill is coming from. See, here in Utah we aren't used to the government performing its proper function. So when they actually decide to step up to the plate and do what the Constitution requires, well-meaning citizens become frustrated because they aren't sure what to think. The detractors of these actions by the legislators think that our tax money should go for more free lunch and universal health care. But here's a news flash: it looks to me like the American people are finally frustrated enough to shake of the shackles of apathy. Maybe it's because their once untouchable economy seems to be struggling, but whatever the reason, they are demanding action. Don't criticize the government for finally realizing that illegal immigration falls under the "all enemies, foreign and domestic" clause that they swore to uphold, because anyone willing to violate our laws daily just by their presence here is certainly not an ally. As for having compassion for my fellow brother, I ask you how it is compassionate to require legal applicants to wait in line while we house, feed and care for their illegal counterparts.

Read history all you immigrants. This land is Mexicos land. We need more culture and language from mexico. Viva Atzlan. Viva La Raza

PASSSSSSS! this is a GREAT BILL. if it doesnt get passed then we are in trouble. i lost my job in construction cause the boss wanted to hire more mexicans to save money. its good for both races in the end. PASSSSSSS

I support this bill many of my veteran friends are actually taking orders from these people..they hire their own spanish speaking relatives then try to insinuate our veterans are mestisos. Ship them back..their are lines of demarcations called citizenship, loyalty to this country, respect with honesty and honor which our population has demonstrated time and again. If it weren't for my forefathers we may well be speaking a different language under a different form of government. And it is that form of government which makes those laws for all! Not just some! Don't lie, steal others IDs, then expect this true American citizen to buy into your plan of deception!

The one items I noticed, about verification, needs some work. If I am hiring a consultant or contractor, all I can ask for is a W-9. No identification. I don't see how this will work. Providing I get the W-9, how am I supposed to find out if the person is lying? If they say they need a W-8, I wouldn't know what to do.

The other real problem is that I have no way of finding out if the person hiring me is here legally. There is no reverse W-9, and I typically wouldn't worry, but if I want to know for sure, there is no way to find out.