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Published: Thursday, Jan. 31 2008 12:26 a.m. MST

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Anonymous

I am a convert to the LDS Church. There is no excuse (human frailties notwithstanding) for a Mormon to tell ANYONE they are going to hell. Our beliefs don't allow for one to say that, and that was a big point of why I joined the Church. People in my former faith (I won't name what that was, out of respect for members of it) told me I was going to hell for becoming LDS.

I was taught by the missionaries that everyone will get the SAME FAIR CHANCE to believe and do the SAME THINGS in order to be saved. This makes no one exempt from having to accept Christ and his gospel, and it also condemns no one for having died without knowing of it. It is the perfect balance from a perfect God.

If not for the witness of the Spirit, this doctrine is how I would be "logically" converted to the Church (taking into account that most beliefs of many religions defy earthly logic). And to hear that fellow Latter-day Saints would say things contrary to this wonderful doctrine pains me.

Just a thought

In case someone is unsure who this groups master is. Moroni 7:15-17 gives us the way to decern.

It is plain to know who they serve and it IS up to us to judge. The spirit of christ is given to all to help.

vs 17 first. "But whatsoever thing persuadeth men to do evil, and believe not in Christ, and deny him, and serve not God, then you may know with a perfect knowledge it is of the devil; for after this manner doth the devil work, for he persuadeth no man to do good, no, not one; neither do his angels; NEITHER DO THEY WHICH SUBJECT THEMSELVES UNTO HIM."

Describes these protestors well.

vs 16 "...every thing which inviteth to do good, and to persuade to believe in Christ, is sent forth by the power and gift of Christ; whereforth ye may know with a perfect knowledge it is of God."

I know which side President Hinckley is on.

3 Nephi 11:29 "...he that hath the spirit of contention is not of me, but of the devil, who is the father of contention, and he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another."

RE: Matt Johnson

Pastor Johnson, I'm a born and raised Salt Lake City, Latter-Day Saint who has a father who is a die hard Garrison Keelor fan - "A Praire Home Companion" on the radio - I also come from a family of Eagle Scouts - from an organization such as The Boy Scouts of America who involve youth of all religions. I just want to re-assure you that I'm aware of the expansive numbers of Baptists out there - I have bluegrass playing friends who are Baptists from North Carolina. - The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the resounding message in any Christian church and though we all fall short of him, we can yet hear his words and strive to become more like him. Certainly I assume as a fellow Christian that your belief and understanding of Jesus Christ is in many regards similar to mine - as he taught in parables of degrees of heaven, as he healed, as he showed again and again that he was the promised Messiah - His spirit and the Holy Ghost is the power that strives to bring us all closer to him - the protesters as well who God loves.

Ignore Them

"Where does this church get their money to fly people all over the U.S. to do things like this?"

Lawsuits, from the rage they inspire. Searching them on the internet and clicking on their website makes them money. IGNORE THEM and they earn nothing.

Get a Life

I'm not LDS, but I've lived in Utah now almost 30 years. I've always gotten along just fine here on a live and let live basis. To be truthful I'm pretty much ambivalent about who is or isn't the President of the LDS Church, but clearly President Hinkley was a good and worthy man,and the members of the Westboro Babtist Church need to get a life, preferably a more Christian one.

MC

I'm not LDS but I think it's horrific that bigots can hide behind the guise of a "church" to disseminate hate. Their self-righteousness is sickening.

Re: Matt Johnson II

President Hinckley would've probably sided with the comment about someone getting food and warmth for these individuals. How confused must a person be to do the same that those in Jerusalem did when they insisted that Jesus be crucified. Jesus Christ himself was confronted with the worst of enemies. The adversary and his influence is similar today as it was in biblical times. That same adversary whose plan is to confuse and cause fear and to entrap and to cause misery to us all is the same that was there in biblical times. If there is a scapegoat in all of this, it is the dark angel which is the devil. How strange that a funeral of a prophet to many who believe and a righteous, good man to many who don't would be met with a group who in essence spit on a grave - how small - how confused they are - On the one hand my heart goes out to them - on the other I simply recognize the hand of the adversary in having guided them down an entirely erroneous path belittling the divine nature and potential of God's children.

John

It's really sad that Westboro Church has nothing better to do then to hurt other people. I know Christ would not do something like that. I guess they really don't believe in God and his son Jesus Christ for doing that they do. Thank God for President Hinckley. May he rest in peace with Sister Hinckley

Canadian LDS

WOW!!! It's so hard to believe that one particular so-called Church would choose to picket a funeral for our beloved prophet Gordon B Hinckley!!!
I guess we in Canada are very blessed, in that we aren't so actively pursecuted as our Brothers and Sisters are in the United States.
What a sad commentary it is that our faith is still so misunderstood, and people are still so afraid and or ignorant of what it truly means to be LDS!!!
I agree President Hinckley would want us to act with the same grace, tolerance, and love for others that this remarkable man has shown throughout his entire life.

Anonymous

i know its not the right thing to do but if i saw a sign that said pray for more dead soldiers they better pray they can run fast cause i would beat the holy tar out of every single one of them

Spirit of Sampson Avard

Br Rockwell and the Danites should take care of this.

Richard Stauffer

Hopefully the media will be wise enough not to cover the demonstration. All they want is publicity. If they are left alone they will soon disappate.

dittybob

"Hinckley is in Hell"? This Westboro group purports to speak for the Final Judgment of God? If Hinckley is in Hell, what chance do the rest of us have? How self righteous of a group of people! What kind of person would be so self assured in their standing before God to single any other as the one to be found in Hell. I imagine Gordon B. with a wry smile and shaking his head with the audacity of such a mislead group of people. How sad and pathetic this organization is- What WOULD Jesus do?

Playa Haters

It's amazing these radical Bible dudes have time to dedicate to this protest when really they ought to be spending their time spreading whispers about how if a Mormon was elected President it would be like the devil himself being in charge. Yes, amazing they can multi-task like this.

C James

"Now, my dear brethren, in closing I plead with you to control your tempers, to put a smile upon your faces, which will erase anger; speak out with words of love and peace, appreciation, and respect. If you will do this, your lives will be without regret. Your marriages and family relationships will be preserved. You will be much happier. You will do greater good. You will feel a sense of peace that will be wonderful.

May the Lord bless you and inspire you to walk without anger, without bitterness of any kind, but to reach out to others with expressions of friendship, appreciation, and love. This is my humble prayer, in the name of Jesus Christ, amen."

President Gordon B. Hinckley
October 2007 General Conference

THank you for posting this quote! I know that Pres. Hinckley would want us to be kinder to eachother and not ackknowledge those trying to hurt us with thier words!

RE: Matt Johnson
Thanks for reminding us that not all Baptists are the same. Having grown up in Alabama, and having had alot of Baptist friends and relatives, I can tell you that most Baptists are very kind, Christian people!!

Anon

Your loving attitudes will end up getting in a brawl on Saturday.

Jared B

You know the term kicking someone when there down. It means not having the the guts to do any thing when the other person has a chance to say or do anything. Well thats just what the people who are planning to be protesting outside ant Pres. Hinkleys funeral are doing. I must say that it sickens me to the very core to hear that. Well I have to get back to school. I hope that the protesters will have a good life now and after. I know I will.

sally

Lets all try to just get a long and turn the other cheek. We are LDS....Remember?

Mr L

Again showing that Christ-Like compassion is amiss from extremists. You may not agree with Mormonism, but should that drive people who claim to be "Saved" to not be tolerant and compassionate to the Family and the Members of a church? Agree or not With Gordon B. Hinckley or not he is truly one of the great men and Church Leaders of our time. He taught tolerance and to show respect to others. He he showed his actions in word and in deed. Now that he is gone the attempt to slander and deface who he was and what he taught.

I will make one guarantee, when this Minister passes, there won't be a single Mormon protesting at her funeral. In fact, they will probably take funeral potatoes and comfort her family and congregation.

"If ye have done this unto the least of my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

No friend

While I'm no fan of some of the LDS church's policies, this is so classless. President Hinckley was a good man and deserves to be honored by those who believe him to be a prophet. He lived a wonderful life.

I know how hurt I would feel if somebody protested at my loved one's funeral condemning them to hell. It's sad Christianity at times can seem so divided.

As despicable as this is, I am still grateful for the First Amendment.

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