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Bill would give no break to undocumented immigrants

Published: Wednesday, Jan. 30 2008 12:22 a.m. MST

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Shame

What an embarrassment. Our state legislators, once again, are attempting to take away the one thing that can change these young peoples' lives: education. Allow these students access to higher education and you change their lives and subsequent generations forever.

Fiscal Note

I don't understand how the state could lose money if this bill passes? It is my understanding that the non-resident tuition cost represents the actual cost of higher education. People who receive in-state tuition are actually receiving a 2/3 subsidy from taxpayers.

If this bill passes the students would either pay more for tuition (a net gain for the state), or would choose not to continue with their education (also a net gain, as the state would no longer have to pay the 2/3 subsidy, which is greater than the 1/3 amount the illegals pay).

I don't understand the math being used here.

Pass the bill

Let's be honest here. We cannot save the world by bringing them here. Donate to the PEF and spread the wealth around. In-state tuition is a magnet to encourage illegal aliens. The church teaches personal accountability for our choices. These families made that choice. Mother Government does not need to save them from those choices.
Besides, maybe they'll go back home and work on improving their own country.

The Raven

I am for pretty much for anything that will put a stop to illegal immigration. I do not want to see Utah become part of the Mexican narco-state where corruption and lawlessness run rampant. Bleeding hearts want to give away the country and accuse law abiding Americans of being evil, racist, sexist, bigots. They seem to not care that our government is 9 trillion dollars in debt. We can't put the entire world, including Mexico, on to the U.S. welfare system. If the bleeding hearts care so much about Mexico, let them migrate there and work to change the corrupt system down there. I suspect they will find out pretty fast the Mexicans will not put up with foreigners meddling in their business. They certainly will not allow them to go on Mexican assistance of any kind.

Stewart

Good, now let's get it done this year. Last year it failed the House by one vote. It should pass the House this year, but not likely to get out of the Senate. In fact they will more than likely avoid a vote, with a stall in the Rules Committee. So if this happens determine those who opposed the bill in the House or the Senate, and if it just doesn't get to the floor of the Senate punish the Rules Committee members in November.

Remember that enablers always use compassion and sympathy to enable someone in an addicted behavior. Utah is a sanctuary state addicted to cheap, illegal labor.

Legals First

Before we start crying over the illegals not getting a college education, lets make darn sure that our own children who are here legally have a chance for that same education. The Uou U is getting so hard to get into, lets make room first for the legals.

WatchDog

Federal law states very clearly that if we give instate tutition rate to criminal illegal aliens, that we MUST give that same break to citizens from other states. Right now, we charge them over $39 million a year in non resident fees.

The federal law is quite clear! We cannot charge non-resident rates to out-of-state U.S. citizens, unless we charge the same rate to criminal illegal aliens.

Tiffany

If they are here illegally, then they can't get a job without breaking more laws and stealing someone's identity. Encouraging them to stay longer in this country illegally is also encouraging further illegal activity. How are they paying for their schooling anyway? Illegal employment. We aren't punishing the children for the sins of the parents - we are giving them the opportuinity to do the right thing and go back to their home country and come back legally.

To Fiscal Note: I believe the idea behind the fiscal note is that the students would drop out of college (or never enter in the first place) rather than pay the higher tuition, thus decreasing the amount of tuition collected.

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