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Succession of LDS president: President Monson likely next leader
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Roger | 9:01 p.m. Jan. 29, 2008
To Mary. The DN censors will not allow any postings of inquiry or philosophical
questions regarding the church standard doctrine. They maybe junior in their
believes of freedom of thought, or maybe they are seasoned dictators, which ever
they could benefit from schooling in civics. And I guess this will not get
posted. So much for freedom of press.
shecky | 9:25 p.m. Jan. 29, 2008
Rog, what do you mean by "junior in their beliefs of freedom of
thought"?
TB | 9:47 p.m. Jan. 29, 2008
President Monson is a wonderful man. His dedicated service to the Church has
been inspiring. He has stood next to prophets throughout the years and has
learned at their hand. I've met President Monson once before. He is a
loving and gentle person. I'm sure he is mourning the passing of his good
friend right now. He has served with Pres. Hinckley for many years. God bless
each of our leaders as they mourn the passing of their dear friend, President
Hinckley.
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Anonymous | 9:43 p.m. Jan. 29, 2008
He won't likely be named the new leader he will be named the new leader.
President of twelve has to be President of church when ordained apostle you are
ordained prophet just can't use it until you outlive everyone else.
Solomon | 10:24 p.m. Jan. 29, 2008
I read what you guys have wrote on here and it looks like a mixed-up mass of
confusion. Is it true-- as said above, that if we nonmembers & philosophers,
are not allowed to post on here unless it is church doctrine? I didn't know
this. This kind of amazes me when I thought that free speech was so important to
Americans. Please explain this.
Good luck with your new prophet. I couldn't understand what you people were all trying to say on here.
What is the statement to Mary all about?
Good luck with your new prophet. I couldn't understand what you people were all trying to say on here.
What is the statement to Mary all about?
they did take some off | 11:02 p.m. Jan. 29, 2008
As I get looking, someone did take some of the comments off. Maybe they'll
put them on later.
Utah Member | 11:03 p.m. Jan. 29, 2008
To Charlotte, NC
In order to attend the LDS church just look in your local phone book for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Anyone is welcome to attend. There are three separate meetings on a Sunday. One is called Sacrament Meeting, another Sunday School and the last Priesthood or Relief Society for the Women. I hope this information is helpful.
In order to attend the LDS church just look in your local phone book for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Anyone is welcome to attend. There are three separate meetings on a Sunday. One is called Sacrament Meeting, another Sunday School and the last Priesthood or Relief Society for the Women. I hope this information is helpful.
isaac | 11:41 p.m. Jan. 29, 2008
the holy ghost does clearly make us feel that we should expect to sustain
President Monson, soon we will be asked to sustain him, regards to all
Reporting mistakes ... | 12:15 a.m. Jan. 30, 2008
Carrie Moore isn't the only reporter to slip up recently. Jennifer Dobner
also made a couple of errors in early stories about Pres. Hinckley's death,
and which were picked up on the national AP wires. One story said Hinckley was
the longest-serving prophet (she meant longest-lived). Another one said that
Pres. Hinckley was going to be "laid to rest" inside the Conference
Center, rather than at the Salt Lake City Cemetery. Other than these and a few
other minor glitches, I thnik the DMN reporting has been phenomenal. Keep a copy
of that Church Almanac handy though!
BeeBee | 12:19 a.m. Jan. 30, 2008
Everyone will have the opportunity to sustain the new President of the church
(regardless of whomever is called) at the Saturday morning session of the next
General Conference. More than the standard Common Consent raise-of-the-hand, a
Solemn Assembly is called when a new president is named, organized by quorurms
or auxiliaries (or "OTHER" I think??). Everyone in attendance either
in person or electronically thus gets the opportunity to sustain the brethern in
the selection of the new President / Prophet / Seer / Revelator.
A question | 12:32 a.m. Jan. 30, 2008
Is it true that the 12 are called special witnesses of Christ because that they
have actually seen Christ face to face? That�s what I was
taught in church all through my growing up years and was wondering if that was
still the case. I look forward to your insights.
Succession | 12:50 a.m. Jan. 30, 2008
Although the term 'historical precedence' seems a bit loose for the
call of a Prophet, it is though what it is. Correct me if I am wrong, but
nowhere in the standard works of the Church is there a clear revelation given on
how the Prophet is called amongst the 12 apostles. In fact, because of this
lack of specific revelation we saw some members and most specifically Emma Smith
and many of her family leave the church over a dispute regarding succession.
Thus, although the senior apostle has been called by the 12 and confirmed by the general membership of the church ever since Brigham Young, nowhere amongst the standard works of the church is this written that this must be the case. As such I have no problem with the author of this article labeling the expected call of Thomas Monson as 'historical presedence'.
What needs to be stressed is that the 12 will fast and pray and seek revelation regarding who should be the next Prophet. With that said, I do believe that unwritten presendence that the senior apostle becoming the next prophet is of God.
Thus, although the senior apostle has been called by the 12 and confirmed by the general membership of the church ever since Brigham Young, nowhere amongst the standard works of the church is this written that this must be the case. As such I have no problem with the author of this article labeling the expected call of Thomas Monson as 'historical presedence'.
What needs to be stressed is that the 12 will fast and pray and seek revelation regarding who should be the next Prophet. With that said, I do believe that unwritten presendence that the senior apostle becoming the next prophet is of God.
Geopoet | 4:53 a.m. Jan. 30, 2008
I'm very much grateful of the great achievement that Prophet Gordon B.
Hinckley has done for The Church. He's been a great inspiration to too
many people, members and non-members alike, as he's settled the strength of
the Church by implanting Temples to every land and nation, as the Lord directed
him so.
His wit and cunning humor can bring forth weary hearts into great inspiration to get on living life. His great inspired leadership have drawn a clear line of distinction that made up the LDS members strive more to attain the precious promise of our Lord Jesus Christ. Indeed, I love him and sustained him to be my prophet, seer and revelator.
As to the next Church President, it is always the one who is prepared by the Lord; and indeed, President Thomas S. Monson have lived the life of preparation since childhood. I dearly believed him to be my prophet, seer and revelator; and I will sustain him to be so when we shall be asked to do.
This is the Lord's Church. No doubt about it and I will sustain whoever is called and set apart to be the next Presiding High Priest.
His wit and cunning humor can bring forth weary hearts into great inspiration to get on living life. His great inspired leadership have drawn a clear line of distinction that made up the LDS members strive more to attain the precious promise of our Lord Jesus Christ. Indeed, I love him and sustained him to be my prophet, seer and revelator.
As to the next Church President, it is always the one who is prepared by the Lord; and indeed, President Thomas S. Monson have lived the life of preparation since childhood. I dearly believed him to be my prophet, seer and revelator; and I will sustain him to be so when we shall be asked to do.
This is the Lord's Church. No doubt about it and I will sustain whoever is called and set apart to be the next Presiding High Priest.
re: A question | 5:50 a.m. Jan. 30, 2008
I don't know if they have all seen Christ face to face. That said, they
have receive a witness of Christ through the Holy Ghost, that I doubt they can
deny. It also seems that many of them get an even more special witness after
becoming an apostle.
Sleuth | 7:00 a.m. Jan. 30, 2008
I am curios why so many make
�celebrities� out of men called of
God, when all men (and women) are called of God. Is it the esteemed position in
the Church, which makes us �respecters of
men?� Do we remember that it is the Lord's message,
and in the Prophet�s case, the Lord�s
authority vested in him, that is to be feared, and not the person called and
delivering it? Nevertheless, with resolute and unyielding disregard to scripture
(Romans 2:11.) we make celebrities out of Church leaders. I see and hear
significant numbers of Church members make celebrities out of our leaders who
speak not of themselves but of God. This �Mormon
sub-cultural eccentricity� is distracting from the true
work and doctrine of the Church, and also from the respect, which we are morally
obligated to posses and show for all men, regardless of their calling in the
Church. The Lord has made it abundantly clear that He desires for us to love
the message first, and not the messenger. The Gospel is independent and in the
sphere where it is placed regardless of who delivers it, believes it, or adheres
to it.
re: A question | 12:32 a.m. | 7:30 a.m. Jan. 30, 2008
I don't know if the apostles have all seen Christ face to face either.
President Packer's talk from October 2007 conference is pretty instructive
on their "witness" and the sources of their testimonies, however. It
might be useful to you. It certainly has been to me.
Just a thought.... | 7:36 a.m. Jan. 30, 2008
Maybe,just maybe, it is time to gather all the lost sheep. I can not think of a
better man than Thomas Munson to accomplish such an extraordinary achievement.
Everyone loves him even members who have fallen way from the church have a
special place in their hearts for him. He has the ability to soften hearts, heal
old wounds, and just bring out the best in people. He is a Man of God.
MSM | 8:27 a.m. Jan. 30, 2008
KSL TV and radio reported that Monson was the "acting president of the
quorum of the twelve." In fact, President Monson has been sustained as THE
President of the Quorum of the Twelve, and President Boyd K. Packer as the
"acting president" during the past twelve years while Monson has been
serving in the First Presidency. Just another example that the MSM RARELY gets
it right in anything -- even something as simple as this.
SLC | 8:58 a.m. Jan. 30, 2008
From what I can gather from all the postings explaining the anointment of the
new President of the mormon church he will be a prophet called and sustained by
men. I thought God named his prophets like in the OT times. What role does God
play in the process.
Sandy | 9:08 a.m. Jan. 30, 2008
Do LDS church leaders still visit with Christ and God the father? Do they still
have revelations? I just wondered if modern prophets still experience these same
things as did Joseph Smith. Is revelation from God as well given to the Quorum
in modern times and the decision on a new LDS prophet? I never hear anything
these days about revelations. I would like to know if anyone at all experiences
these things nowadays?
PLEASE LET ME KNOW?
PLEASE LET ME KNOW?
Larry | 9:11 a.m. Jan. 30, 2008
I too wonder about that. It seems they have the tail wagging the dog. I wonder
why our church does't have a prophet. If maybe Monson doesn't get the
job with the mormons we can hire him. I do think he is a real good man.
Michael | 10:45 a.m. Jan. 30, 2008
Some forty-three years ago, while serving as a missionary for the Church in
Australia, I met Elder Thomas S. Monson when he was in charge of that mission. I
approached Elder Monson as he stood by himself outside the front door of the
Mission President's residence. As I drew close to him, I was impressed that
one day he would become the President of the Church.
Over the years since that meeting, I have often spoken of this incident in Church gatherings. It has been a faith promoting experience to see how God prepares those he intends to lead his people. President Monson will lead the Church as God intends that he lead it. He has been prepared and will receive the revelation to do the things that will be necessary to continue the legacy of those who have gone before him. I bear testimony that he, and those who serve with him are indeed led by Him whose name the Church bears.
Over the years since that meeting, I have often spoken of this incident in Church gatherings. It has been a faith promoting experience to see how God prepares those he intends to lead his people. President Monson will lead the Church as God intends that he lead it. He has been prepared and will receive the revelation to do the things that will be necessary to continue the legacy of those who have gone before him. I bear testimony that he, and those who serve with him are indeed led by Him whose name the Church bears.
Disrespect | 10:52 a.m. Jan. 30, 2008
It's not a flattering trait for Saints to "chomp at the bit"
about the next "leader". You really loved Pres. Hinckley, so you say,
but he hasn't even been laid to rest and you're all over his
replacement.
Show better taste by respecting the leader and keeping such discussions until after the funeral. Sheesh.
Show better taste by respecting the leader and keeping such discussions until after the funeral. Sheesh.
Anonymous | 11:06 a.m. Jan. 30, 2008
When I was on my mission in Chile, Elder Perry visited with the prophet to
rededicate the Santiago Chile Temple. I was priviledged to attend a stake
conference visited by Elder Perry. During his talk, he mentioned that the order
in which a prophet is called is just like what was mentioned by "Church
president succession," suggested from LDS.org. He basically said, from what
I understand/remember, that the prophets are called, qualified, and move through
time until he is left in the position that President Monson is in. I believe
that Christ's church is perfect, thus meaning that He has a greater
understanding of how things work out. I just feel grateful to be able to follow
whomever it is that will be called in any time during my life.
RE: Sandy
If you get a chance, watch the church's production of Special Witnesses of Christ. It is very apparent that they have had experiences that are very sacred. I felt the Spirit, I just believe that they don't cast their pearls before swine. There are plenty of people that are looking to twist and distort the words spoken by members and authorities of the church.
RE: Sandy
If you get a chance, watch the church's production of Special Witnesses of Christ. It is very apparent that they have had experiences that are very sacred. I felt the Spirit, I just believe that they don't cast their pearls before swine. There are plenty of people that are looking to twist and distort the words spoken by members and authorities of the church.
FROM CHILE | 9:09 a.m. Feb. 1, 2008
I have been a member for 16 years here in Chile, and I love the Church and the
gospel and the all prophets. I read you comments are really edifying.
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