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Porn found in edited-movie shop, owner arrested, accused of having sex with minor
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laguna | 12:19 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
How ironic that a person who claims to be for purity and family values is really
a sick person. People who often protest against sin are often the ones who need
watching.
Who solicited? | 12:23 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
The article says Thompson was arrested for soliciting sex from a minor. Later
the article says, "The girl told her mother SHE and a friend solicited
sexual favors from two men".
Well, which was it?
Either way, it's illegal, but I think it's important to know what really happend. And if the girl was soliciting men, shouldn't there be some punishment for her as well?
Well, which was it?
Either way, it's illegal, but I think it's important to know what really happend. And if the girl was soliciting men, shouldn't there be some punishment for her as well?
Lauri | 12:24 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
You gotta love this ... *grins* Watching the rightious flame and go down is one
the good things about living in Utah.
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Fred | 12:27 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
I have always wondered why those that speak out loudest about pornography seem
to be those who cannot control their demons.
Ted Haggard in Colorado speaks out loudly against gays and then gets caught having gay sex with a male prostitute.
Now we have clean movie guy getting arrested for child sexual misconduct. I recognoze that he is innocent until proven guilty, but it sounds pretty bad when the girl described his store.
People loved their edited movies, but I seem to recall that Utah County has one of the highest rates of Pay Per View porn rentals in the country. Rent clean stuff for public display and then get down and dirty when the neighbors leave.
Brings to mind the old addage: Me thinks thou doth protest to much...
Ted Haggard in Colorado speaks out loudly against gays and then gets caught having gay sex with a male prostitute.
Now we have clean movie guy getting arrested for child sexual misconduct. I recognoze that he is innocent until proven guilty, but it sounds pretty bad when the girl described his store.
People loved their edited movies, but I seem to recall that Utah County has one of the highest rates of Pay Per View porn rentals in the country. Rent clean stuff for public display and then get down and dirty when the neighbors leave.
Brings to mind the old addage: Me thinks thou doth protest to much...
Anonymous | 12:32 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
Could it be possible that years of editing out the "bad stuff"
corrupted him? Good intentions, but with regular exposure to lewd material, may
have twisted his mind. It's too bad.
Ironic. | 12:50 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
I love stories like this. I love it when the ones who claim to be so moral and
holier than thou get brought down to the same level as teh rest of us sinners.
It can happen to anyone@ | 12:51 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
So does editing movies change the lives of those who work in the buisness?
Beware the Child Molesters | 1:06 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
I agree with Fred. It seems to me that those with the most problems tend to
denounce those very problems the most vigorously. It doesn't come as a
shock to learn that Thompson was arrested for soliciting sex from a minor since
he has shown a desire for clean films that goes to the extreme. If someone needs
to edit out a few minor scenes that are sexual in nature then they are probably
the people we want to watch out for especially when it comes to their children.
A R-rated film isn't inherently damaging to those who watch it but
it's very dangerous for these depraved individuals. The next time someone
tells you that they NEVER, with emphasis on NEVER, watch R-rated movies please
watch them closely because they are of the same character as Thompson. We should
beware the child molesters, rapists, sexual sadists, etc who never watch R-rated
movies.
Double Stnd. | 1:07 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
Well, what he did was wrong. I always wonder about reversing the tables though,
ya know, if it were an adult female paying young boys to do "favors",
how would the community and courts react? I'm guessing the punishments
would be less harsh all the way around.
Thompson | 1:08 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
Was an avowed BYU fan as well.
Thomas | 1:11 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
You guys crowing over this man's failure are pathetic. It's true
enough that hypocrites are contemptible -- but why take such pleasure in it? Is
it because you desperately want to be confirmed in your conviction that no man
can be expected to behave better than an alley cat, and so why even try?
WC | 1:22 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
is that bad that this made me laugh?
Another Chapter | 1:22 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
Just another chapter in the reddest and most hypocritical state.
Life Interrupted | 1:26 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
I think that he just planned on removing those "inappropriate" parts
of his life film when he steps up at the great and dreadful day.
RE: Who solicited? Being a prostitute is just as illegal as paying for one. I'm sure she isn't off the hook.
RE: Who solicited? Being a prostitute is just as illegal as paying for one. I'm sure she isn't off the hook.
Aaron | 1:27 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
FRED,
I agree with your point about Haggard and the circus he created....BUUUUUUUT
That's a pretty outlandish claim to make about Pay Per View porn rental in Utah County. Do you have any data (ie: a verifiable source you can actually cite) with which you can back your accusation?
I don't live in Utah County so I don't know what the porn scene is like there these days but making a claim like that is almost as non-data-esque as when people from the SLC gay community claim Sugarhouse has the highest per-capita population of homosexuals in the country, maybe even the world, maybe even the entire universe! Ha.
Get your facts, then report them - horse before the cart, my friend. Then these message boards become useful rather than tools for spreading rumors and proliferating urban legends.
I agree with your point about Haggard and the circus he created....BUUUUUUUT
That's a pretty outlandish claim to make about Pay Per View porn rental in Utah County. Do you have any data (ie: a verifiable source you can actually cite) with which you can back your accusation?
I don't live in Utah County so I don't know what the porn scene is like there these days but making a claim like that is almost as non-data-esque as when people from the SLC gay community claim Sugarhouse has the highest per-capita population of homosexuals in the country, maybe even the world, maybe even the entire universe! Ha.
Get your facts, then report them - horse before the cart, my friend. Then these message boards become useful rather than tools for spreading rumors and proliferating urban legends.
@ Anonymous | 1:35 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
Perhaps editing could make you look at porn or something like that. I think the
willingness to perform that act is a sign he was sick. it would have happened
regardless of what he did
Jay | 1:37 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
Just because he edited the movies for families that don't want to see
violence, sex, etc, doesn't mean he stands for purity and righteousness.
He ran a business. He earned money for doing a service for people. The fact
that his business was an edited movie store is irrelevant.
To: Ironic | 1:45 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
Was he claiming to be holy or moral?? Wasn't he just running a business
that catered to a community that might prefer edited movies. You certainly can
do that without being holy or moral and do it without claming to be either.
Sad story but I'm not so sure it has much to do with someone claiming to be righteous and then falling. All I know about the guy is he sold edited movies. Could have been an atheist for all I know.
Some comments are implying that anyone who tries to be good and set a good example is somehow insincere by that very act.
As a society we should applaud anyone who sincerely tries to be good and show good acts even if sometimes in life they fail to succeed. Was this guy sincere?? I have no idea but let's not make it politically uncorrect for those that are sincere to outwardly try to show their best face possible.
Sad story but I'm not so sure it has much to do with someone claiming to be righteous and then falling. All I know about the guy is he sold edited movies. Could have been an atheist for all I know.
Some comments are implying that anyone who tries to be good and set a good example is somehow insincere by that very act.
As a society we should applaud anyone who sincerely tries to be good and show good acts even if sometimes in life they fail to succeed. Was this guy sincere?? I have no idea but let's not make it politically uncorrect for those that are sincere to outwardly try to show their best face possible.
Ed | 1:48 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
Thomas, I agree with you about the "crowing"...but you have to agree
that often times the people who set themselves up as the "moral
police" are the ones whose morals NEED policing! So who is the hypocrite
here?????
yup | 1:48 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
Selling edited movies is, from what I understand, illegal. Soliciting sexual
favors from minors is also illegal (I think). How is it that breaking one of
the laws makes him a martyr for morality and the other one a horrible person?
Isn't picking and choosing the rules we choose to follow awesome?
Isn't picking and choosing the rules we choose to follow awesome?
Don | 1:51 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
Could it be that he was not "holier than thou" as some of the posts
insinuate? Could it be that he is merely an entreprenuer who was keen enough to
notice that there is a market for "clean" videos in this area? From
the charges, it doesn't sound like he has a double standard, it sounds like
he's an opportunist.
Anonymous | 2:02 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
Where "Ironic" mentioned that he/she loved stories like this because
it brings people down to the level as the "rest of us sinners". Is
he/she confessing something...?
re:Ironic | 2:07 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
You love it when 14 year old children are sexually solicited and used by adult
males???
You are a sick as video-store-dude.
You people who are relishing and basking in the joy of this CRIME are just as twisted.
You are a sick as video-store-dude.
You people who are relishing and basking in the joy of this CRIME are just as twisted.
editing movies? | 2:09 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
some of you have suggested that the fact that he edited movies might have
twisted his mind....most people in the world watch rated R movies and don't
do this kind of stuff...it has nothing to do with editing movies.
Martha | 2:10 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
Thank you, Thomas. It is more than sad to read comments that take pleasure in
anyone's misfortune. Rallying about as if anyone who tries to choose
'good' over 'evil' is evil, is pathetic. Find a cause worth
rallying over; not in seeing someone "go down in flames".
meri | 2:10 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
How sad, both for him and his family. But what is also very sad is to see that
people take delight in something like this. Even if they disagree with what he
did professionally and with his avowed philosophy/point of vierw, it is truly
sad to see anyone express glere at seeing seeing someone stumble and fall. What
would Jesus do?
Hey Daniel | 2:12 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
So was the store about "clean living" or making a buck?
I don't see alot of integrity in this one.
I don't see alot of integrity in this one.
Need Help | 2:14 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
Lauri and ironic, you need help. Why would you be happy about a situation like
this?
Dear Thomas | 2:18 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
Pathetic? This is JUSTICE! We've listened to you hypocrites for years,
JUDGING US for our choices. Now is seems that the Flix Club was merely saving
the dirty parts for himself. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find that a
raid of that store, turns up pure porn that was being sold under the counter,
while the community thought it was a "clean store".
Edited version for sale | 2:23 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
I am selling an edited clean version of this story for 3.99! Anyone interested
:)
Louis | 2:23 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
It's hard not to at least smirk at the hypocrisy. Jesus himself held his
greatest contempt in reserve for the hypocrites.
"Who Solicited?"'s comments are irrelevant -- consent is no defense to having sex with a minor, so how the girls behaved has no bearing on Mr. Thompson's guilt.
I believe we in the local culture need to reevaluate our attitudes about pornography and sexual repression. Strong and often unnecessary feelings of guilt can often lead people to take drastic measures. I don't mean to suggest porn is a good thing, but most people who've had a problem with it that I know have overcome it by simply forgetting, by not caring about it.
"Go and sin no more" carries with it, I believe, a charge to quit being preoccupied with sin. Pre-edited movies reflect a preoccupation with sin not seen since the invention of the chastity belt.
"Who Solicited?"'s comments are irrelevant -- consent is no defense to having sex with a minor, so how the girls behaved has no bearing on Mr. Thompson's guilt.
I believe we in the local culture need to reevaluate our attitudes about pornography and sexual repression. Strong and often unnecessary feelings of guilt can often lead people to take drastic measures. I don't mean to suggest porn is a good thing, but most people who've had a problem with it that I know have overcome it by simply forgetting, by not caring about it.
"Go and sin no more" carries with it, I believe, a charge to quit being preoccupied with sin. Pre-edited movies reflect a preoccupation with sin not seen since the invention of the chastity belt.
True Dat | 2:36 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
Yup, the irony makes me laugh out loud. But after laughing, I have to agree
with Don -- we have no reason to believe the perp was anything but an
opportunist as far as his business was concerned.
Some pretty sick people have become priests; but that doesn't make priests sick people. Despite the hilarious irony, this guy's crime can't be imputed to a culture that wants to avoid smut in movies.
Some pretty sick people have become priests; but that doesn't make priests sick people. Despite the hilarious irony, this guy's crime can't be imputed to a culture that wants to avoid smut in movies.
Pittakos | 2:42 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
Lauri | 12:24 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
You gotta love this ... *grins* Watching the rightious flame and go down is one the good things about living in Utah.
Why is this a good thing about Utah. Do you enjoy watching people fall to your level? That's a pretty sad statement about you.
Troy | 2:44 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
Re: The question of whether the 14 year old girl is guilty of a crime.
Answer: No. For policy reasons the law places all of the blame for sexual relations involving underage minors and adults on the adult.
It does not matter if she initiated the action. By law, all of the blame goes to him - none goes to her.
Answer: No. For policy reasons the law places all of the blame for sexual relations involving underage minors and adults on the adult.
It does not matter if she initiated the action. By law, all of the blame goes to him - none goes to her.
Kate | 2:44 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
I frequented this store, and knew daniel (the owner). I was at the store
yesterday while the cops were investigating. I am not saying I think he is
guilty or innocent- i think we just have to remember that he has been CHARGED
with something, not CONVICTED! We don't know the whole story yet.
Doubting Bias | 2:55 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
To Ironic responses and Don, agreed. "Opportunist" is a fitting title
here, if there's a market, make it... It makes sense and is what the grand
majority of Americans do; not to become a victim to "bandwagon" by any
means, but be realistic. What he does outside that is his life, not his work.
For some reason though, I'm very much doubting this one-sided story... too
many flaws are visable from the mere article, how many more will there be in the
actual story??? Mr. Thompson is genuinelly kind to his fellows and keeps an open
mind in his business. Doing so much for his community, I very much doubt a
sexual favor goes quite to this extent. For the Springville man, I cannot say so
much, but I'd like to hear more from just one biased source on this one...
2 bits | 2:55 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
Lauri and others who think this one sick puppy means they can now paint with the
broad-brush and assume all who fight pornography are perverts are... I
can't say it.
Why do we have to generalize so much? Can't this guys be a sick'o without us automatically having to make the leap of logic to... EVERYONE who fights pornography is a pervert?
And why does this one idiot's behavior automatically become an indictment of Mormons and Utahns? This guy is a pervert. But that doesn't mean you now can assume all Utahns are perverts!
When are we going to learn that we are all individuals? In some ways different, in some ways the same? There are sick Mormons... But that doesn't mean all Mormons are sick. There are perverted people who arn't Mormon... But that doesn't mean we can say, "Joy Oh Joy, now this proves that all non-mormons are perverts.
And yes, it is sad that this story makes some people laugh.
Why do we have to generalize so much? Can't this guys be a sick'o without us automatically having to make the leap of logic to... EVERYONE who fights pornography is a pervert?
And why does this one idiot's behavior automatically become an indictment of Mormons and Utahns? This guy is a pervert. But that doesn't mean you now can assume all Utahns are perverts!
When are we going to learn that we are all individuals? In some ways different, in some ways the same? There are sick Mormons... But that doesn't mean all Mormons are sick. There are perverted people who arn't Mormon... But that doesn't mean we can say, "Joy Oh Joy, now this proves that all non-mormons are perverts.
And yes, it is sad that this story makes some people laugh.
Flix Club Store Policy | 2:56 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
FLIX CLUB STORE POLICY
(1) Purposes of the FLIX CLUB Store and its Subsidiaries:
(a) To sell wholesome, edited movies to the public.
(b) To engage in raunchy behavior with the customer(s) who are under the age of seventeen (NOTE: in order that the public may rejoice in the downfall of the FLIX CLUB owner, employees, and subsidiaries).
(1) Purposes of the FLIX CLUB Store and its Subsidiaries:
(a) To sell wholesome, edited movies to the public.
(b) To engage in raunchy behavior with the customer(s) who are under the age of seventeen (NOTE: in order that the public may rejoice in the downfall of the FLIX CLUB owner, employees, and subsidiaries).
LDS and proud | 2:57 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
To all of those "happy" that this happened among the LDS community,
there are sickos in every religion. No one is perfect and if you put
everyone's lives all around the world under a microscope, you'll find
that there isn't one perfect person among us.
So shut up.
So shut up.
RE:re:Ironic 2:07 | 3:12 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
I think you need to re-read my comment and stop trying to change what I said.
At NO time did I say that i thought what he did with a 14 year old was even
remotely acceptable, I said I love it when those who have a Holier than thou
attitude get brought down a notch, and yes, I will admit that I to Annonymous
2:02, yes I AM a sinner. I'm not any closer to perfection that the rest of
you. I'm just a bit more realistic.
laughing | 3:12 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
I think all of your comments are just stupid. Who cares what he did for a
living. Who cares who solicited whom. Who cares what state he lives in. The
guy is a pervert. Cut to the chase.
Who Solicited? followup | 3:14 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
I didn't ask "Who solicited" to place blame. If you read my
post, I sayed what he did is illegal regardless.
I ask because the article appeared to be non-sense to me and I wanted to see if it was a mistake or clarify the story (pardon me for thinking figuring out the truth is important in this case).
Read the WHOLE article and see if it doesn't leave you scratching your head about what really happend. Read my WHOLE post and see if your comment on it made any sense.
I ask because the article appeared to be non-sense to me and I wanted to see if it was a mistake or clarify the story (pardon me for thinking figuring out the truth is important in this case).
Read the WHOLE article and see if it doesn't leave you scratching your head about what really happend. Read my WHOLE post and see if your comment on it made any sense.
Shakesperian View | 3:15 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
He was so vociferous about family values and all that other stuff..., for
profit, of course, which should have been the first indication that something
was amiss.
As Shakespeare wrote in one of his plays, "Me thinks he protests to loudly!"
Go figure!
As Shakespeare wrote in one of his plays, "Me thinks he protests to loudly!"
Go figure!
These people are disgusting | 3:16 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
I agree with Louis. Even if a child offers to perform sexual acts on an adult in
return for money it doesn't give the adult any right to do so. The crime
here is Thompson's and not the girl's even if she was the one who
initiated the solicitation which hasn't been shown in this article. More
than likely the reporter simply chose the wrong words and was trying to say the
same thing that they did earlier in the article which was that Thompson
solicited sex from the girl.
Furthermore, those who are obsessed with purchasing clean films have serious issues. That is unless the purchase is so that the family can watch a wholesome movie. But when you are talking about adults with no children involved then their preoccupation is indicative of a serious issue.
I can understand the desire of parents not to have their children watch such movies but there are a lot of PG and PG-13 movies as well as R-rated movies that are appropriate for children depending on their ages. Let's take the BYU students who want to sue Gold's Gym for a provocative aerobics class. The word sick comes to mind. Aerobics?
Furthermore, those who are obsessed with purchasing clean films have serious issues. That is unless the purchase is so that the family can watch a wholesome movie. But when you are talking about adults with no children involved then their preoccupation is indicative of a serious issue.
I can understand the desire of parents not to have their children watch such movies but there are a lot of PG and PG-13 movies as well as R-rated movies that are appropriate for children depending on their ages. Let's take the BYU students who want to sue Gold's Gym for a provocative aerobics class. The word sick comes to mind. Aerobics?
Anonymous | 3:20 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
I can't believe how many people are on here cheering about someone
else's downfall. That's just pathetic. How sad are your lives? Do
you really get joy from seeing someone destroy their life?
SJ Bobkins | 3:22 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
Please protect us from those who claim to protect us.
I'd much rather see an R rated movie than see reports of child sexual abuse.
I'd much rather see an R rated movie than see reports of child sexual abuse.
CO Coug | 3:29 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
The man obliviously has demons and he will pay for his crime, but you people who
are taking joy in this are really sick yourself, this man never claimed to be
holier than thou. All Mormons have their demons, just like everyone else, many
succeed in quelling those demons, many do not such as this individual. But
people that feel joy that this happened really need to look in the mirror and
figure out what is wrong with themselves and why they are taking pleasure in
another persons pain and downfall. I don't recall seeing this guy's
name in the First Presidency, he was just a business owner who really screwed up
for Heaven's sake, move on.
Gentile Watchdog | 3:35 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
This was the same guy who was crying on camera after the law-of-the-land stepped
in and told him he could no longer edit "the dirty stuff" from those
"dirty Hollywood" movies.
Is anybody really surprised?
Is anybody really surprised?
Happier than most | 3:38 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
A lot of stupid posts here. Whose actions are better? The hypocrites, who do
wrong when they profess to do right, or the justifiers (Many on this board), who
do wrong when they profess to do wrong?
Answer: Neither, they're both doing wrong in the end.
When righteous people profess to do right and then actually do right, they are holier than the other two options; they just shouldn't say so.
All three groups know that sex with a minor is wrong. The difference: the righteous person (Not in the news) doesn't have a problem with that, because they do right for right's sake; the hypocrite (Newsworthy) wants to be seen as doing right, but chooses to do wrong, then regrets it; the justifier, only does right in this instance because they don't want to cross the line of the law; but they want everyone to understand why they just aren't strong enough to choose right, unless it is as severe as breaking the law, of course.
No one is perfect. Rather, all of us have had part in all three categories: when we are happiest we don't judge others against ourselves, aren't hypocrites, and don't justify wrongdoing. We're content.
Answer: Neither, they're both doing wrong in the end.
When righteous people profess to do right and then actually do right, they are holier than the other two options; they just shouldn't say so.
All three groups know that sex with a minor is wrong. The difference: the righteous person (Not in the news) doesn't have a problem with that, because they do right for right's sake; the hypocrite (Newsworthy) wants to be seen as doing right, but chooses to do wrong, then regrets it; the justifier, only does right in this instance because they don't want to cross the line of the law; but they want everyone to understand why they just aren't strong enough to choose right, unless it is as severe as breaking the law, of course.
No one is perfect. Rather, all of us have had part in all three categories: when we are happiest we don't judge others against ourselves, aren't hypocrites, and don't justify wrongdoing. We're content.
N diddy | 3:43 p.m. Jan. 25, 2008
Ok, first off, most of you have no idea what you�re talking
about. HE doesn't do the editing, a company does, and he just buys them and
rents them. So his freaking video store had nothing to do with it. It was merely
a means to make money, he wasn�t making any moral
statement, he could care less, he saw a need and fulfilled it, plain and simple.
Nor does the local culture (as you so like to blame) have anything to do with
it. The guy is not LDS so check that off your list of blame. I know the guy,
whatever he did, he did because he's got issues, it had nothing to do with
edited videos or religion. He's just a sick guy, plain and simple. Get off
your high horses and stop pointing fingers at anyone or anything other then him.
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