Trade Lamar Odom for Shawn Marion
That was the dumbest comment anyone has posted on this article. Also, don't
forget Marion has a no trade clause in his contract and probably wouldn't go to
Utah even if the two teams wanted it.
I think the Lakers should trade Lamar Odom straight up for Amare Stoudemire.
Lamar is too inconsistent and doesn't play with any passion or consistency.
The Laker Need a trade with the suns. (TRADE NOW)
The entire Jazz team needs a boot in the behind and play like a team....plus
guard people....it's like the parting of the Red Sea any time someone wants to
drive the key. I've have noticed a lack of interest of the rebounders to battle
for rebounds against the teams who crash the boards seriously. Teams like the
Clippers, Sonics should never beat the Jazz on any floor. It is like I have
suggested in the past....the Jazz are a journeyman team, and will have no chance
to compete for the championship. Last year raised false expectations. No way
were they going to be in the hunt for the ring. At number nine in the Western
Conference at the present time is about all I can see for them under the current
conditions. I see no real chemistry and drive among the players. They are just
going through the motions in my opinion since they ran into a brick wall in
December. It seems there are individual agendas on this team and there appears
to be no solution coming from the coaches or management to change the situation.
Nevertheless, the Jazz are about all we can expect for our entertainment
I've been a Jazz fan for over 20 years and the biggest problem with the team is
this. Their two best players, Williams and Boozer, are poor defensive players.
So what do they do? It's tough not offer them max contracts when the time
arises, but by doing that, they're then locked in for years and years with
players who can't defend. And not for nothing, even AK is just above average on
defense. He's not great, just great as a help defender. He was torched by
Ginobli last year in one on one situations because he's the complete opposite of
agile and fluid. So what do they do? I say they trade one of their twos (I say
Almond from d-ball) along with Okur for someone like Dalembert or Ratliff. This
would bring a much needed inside shot blocking presence and would also free
Kirilenko up some in not having to rush the basket to help the inept Boozer and
Okur. And yes, we'd missOkur pulling a defender to the line when on offense but
so what? This team needs defense.
Re: ID Falls and all the rest of you salary cap know-it-allsFACT:
D-Will is getting his contract and we have the CAP to do it WITH AK ON THE
TEAM!! FACT: LHM said so!! Why do you loons keep repeating its either or?
STOP!!! I am not sure whether AK will be here or not but it does
not matter--the team is going to spend the money to keep D-Will. D-Will would
have to be a financial imbecile not to take the HUGE money differential the Jazz
can offer him in comparison to what ANY OTHER TEAM can offer. Of course it is
possible for him to leave but HIGHLY UNLIKELY!! Find a new
topic--something you actually know something about would be nice.The
Jazz face a big dilemma, they have poor defense and their lone defensive player
probably wants to leave the team. That said AK has not consistently been AK
defensively. He has had some great games but his blocks continue to
deteriorate. He is only a good help defender and not really good one on one
defender. We have to upgrade defensively or we are toast. We have plenty of
offense--we just don't stop anyone.
I am really impressed with Coach Sloans coaching.I just love it when he
doesnt prepare his team toface road opponents. I just love it when he
destroysa young promising players confidence. Come Millerits
AK gone, but with who in the package?Jerry's been trying to showcase
players.Whose been getting the minutes?
30+ year coach perspective:Jazz with AK and current Jazz roster in
FULL health: 4-5 seed, 50% odds 1st rnd win, 30% odds 2nd rnd win,
1% odds WCF win, 20% odds NBA Finals win against Celtics, 70% odds NBA Finals
win against Pistons (if Celtics not healthy-chuckle).Jazz w/o AK:
30% odds of 8 seed, 100% odds 1st rnd exitWouldn't it be
ironic if Jazz missed playoffs and Pistons won NBA Championship?
The Jazz are so defensively deficient -- as they have been every year without
Mark Eaton -- they can't afford to trade a defensive player like AK unless they
get a defensive upgrade in return. For all his shooting, Korver is
also a defensive upgrade from Giri.So, unless the Nuggets are
offering Camby, or someone else offering a Camby equivelent, then keep AK.
my next door neighbors,second cousin`s stepfather`s mistresse`s adopted
grandchild`s uncle`s brother`s wife`s friend`s roommate`s pigeon trainer heard
that we were going to get old what`s his name in a trade
Butler and Haywood for Kirelenko, I say take it.
Caron Butler and Haywood for Kirilenko. I say take it.
is you don't know if that will ever change.
Many Jazz fans don't know the first thing about basketball. I don't know if that
will ever change!A.K. would like to be more of the man instead of playing second
fiddle to Booz and D-will. I don't know if that will ever change! Sloan likes to
coach un-athletic basketball players who understand pick and roll basketball. I
don't know if that will ever change! Jazz management is in love with Jerry
Sloan. I don't know if that will ever change! Jazz fans are tired of the lack of
a Championship here in Utah. I don't know if that will ever change looking at
the JAZZ from the outside. Good luck tonight against Denver the JAZZ are going
to need it? Hopefully we will know the truth about the Jazz tonight and in the
upcomming weeks....pretender? or contender? stayed tuned....it may make a
difference come the trading deadline!!!!
AK is not going anywhere...I guarantee it. Marion would not help this team and
AK is far better than CJ Miles by miles. You need salary cap space for a DWILL
max contract. I guarantee you DWill will leave if not given one. He might
leave anyway. Remember the comments he made when asked if being benched during
the first part of his rookie season bothered him? He basically said it was
something he would not forget. We need AK and possibly need money for another
You heard it here!
Reading all the experts makes me apprieciate Jazz management even more.
Ronnie Brewer's comment in the trib... about the Northwest Division being the
most important thing to "him" and that he didn't know about everyone
else...EXPOSES THE BIGGEST ISSUE FACING THE JAZZ. THIS TEAM IS NOT ALL TOGETHER
YET. THAT MY FRIENDS, IS SLOAN'S FAULT. AND YES, IT STARTS WITH COACH. D-WILL
AND BOOZ WANT TO BE THE VOCAL LEADERS OF THE TEAM. IF WINNING THE NORTHWEST
DIVISION IS NOT CLEARLY ONE OF THE "WRITTEN DOWN AND DISCUSSED" GOALS OF THE
JAZZ, THAN THAT TELLS ME THAT THEY'RE ALL JUST GOING OUT NIGHT AFTER NIGHT, AND
"SEEING WHAT HAPPENS." KOC and LHM have brought a tremendous
amount of talent to this city. Enought to WIN a CHAMPIONSHIP.
What is lacking though, is CHAMPIONSHIP VISION. I've always wondered
how the JAZZ TEAM communicates and converses about when it comes to goals. Do
they even know that a goal is NOT a GOAL unless it is WRITTEN DOWN? ATTN: Larry Miller- We need a new coach that has players who know what the
COMMON goals of the team are.
My wife's sister's dog's friend's owner works at costco and over heard AK saying
he loves the jazz and wants to stay forever!
There is much more to being a head coach than being able to tutor one guy on his
shooting every now and then. Maybe Horny is head coach material but just because
he was a good shooter and is spending some time here and there with Ak means
nothing. It's like saying Ty Detmer threw with the QBs a bit during spring ball
so he should be the next head coach.
I think that the Jazz would be stupid to trade AK for Marion, or anyone
else for that fact. He makes the Jazz a great team when he is playing. The
Jazz have shown a interest in keeping him by running plays for him, notice the
Matt plays. He makes the shot in that play. He is even better from longer
I will always take loyalty over talent. I conduct negotations the way an
understaffed hospital would. I dont care about credentials it's the loyalty I
care about. Sloan will always be the greatest coach,why? because he's the most
loyal coach in the history of sports. Thats the reason I respect his opinion and
ultimatley bow down at his feet. If Kobe Bryant was playing for this team and
sloan wanted him gone I would do it without a moments hesitation. It doesnt
matter what I want or what the players want it what sloan wants.
I think that Andre still wants out...even though I wish he didn't. The grass is
NOT greener on the other side AK! Sloan is NOT loved by AK or D-will. This
does not bode well for the Jazz. LHM needs to find a fresh face fast that the
players like and can be better friends with. Sloan is a great coach, but too
old-school for some of our players. Marion coming here would not be beneficial
to team chemistry. Bring in someone to coach who will make the players WANT to
stay in Utah and re-sign with Utah. Fans love Sloan and I'm one of them, but
even I can see he needs to move on. As far as a replacement, I have no idea
who's out there, but I guarantee you there's someone...maybe Hornacek?? Who do you guys know of out there who could coach this team to better
chemistry, optimism, VISION, and a CHAMPIONSHIP??
I think Hornacek should take over the team. He is already helping AK. What could
he do for the others? D-Will needs to go up to Spokane again and get taught by
Stockton, Boozer needs to fly down south and learn toughness from Malone, and we
would be fine. Sloan needs to go back to his ranch in Illinios and never come
back, and we will be fine.
My wife's friend's sister is a hair stylist. She overheard Masha saying that AK
would love to play for the suns, and he would return to all star form. She also
overheard Gale Miller saying that Jazz are trying to trade AK to wizards for
Butler and Haywood. This is very top secret internal discussions so don't repeat
Sloan is the problem..Ak would love to get out of this town. Everyone
thinks that everyone has movedon....I dont think so...with Jerry signing a
extensionAndrei would love to really move on....Phoenix..La
anywhere but here..i am serious......
If AK is not completely happy with the Jazz now he never will be (at least while
Sloan is coach). They brought him his own personal shooting coach and Sloan has
literally treated him like his favorite player - at least in the press. He is
contributing and playing good minutes. Not sure it can last but at this point I
would hope AK recognizes the Jazz have done everything possible to make him
happy in Utah. A little recognition from him of that (rather than just a smile
and "no comment") would probably go a long way. Someone who is supposedly so
sensitive should understand the need to give a little back when so much has been
extended this season to him.
Some of the comments on here are laughable. CJ is nothing close to AK
particularly on the defensive end. If anything I find CJ's defense horrendous.
AK gives some many intangible aspects CJ just doesn't have. I like CJ but he is
at least a year away from being able to contribute on a nightly basis. AK fills
the stat sheet night in and night out.I think acquiring Marion would
be like bringing in a Cancer to the team. If he can't be content with playing
with the leagues best PGp then what makes anyone think he would be happy
here.Also keep in mind that Larry H is planning on signing D-Will to
Max money. I don't know what the plans are for Millsap but I wouldn't be
surprised to see Harpring let go to create cap room for him.
I just love the Jazz the way they are. There are a few contracts that will
expire next year, and keep in mind next year I believe the big one FESS will be
able to contibute, and plug the middle some. Sweet, Sweet Go Jazz.
This is a management nightmare. I understand what AK does for the Jazz and what
he brings every night and he is fun to watch to, but he was asked a few games
ago again if he wanted to be traded and he smiled and said "no comment". If you
did not wanted to be traded at some point when you were asked that question
wouldn't you say no. Which leaves you wondering if he still wants out especially
after Sloan signed for another year and that(Sloan)was his problem.Marion wants more money than AK makes right now and if you traded for Marion
you have to try to resign Dwill, Milsap, and possibly Marion in the off-season.
Phoenix would need to resign Marion first for three years before Jazz should
even consider. I would like to see AK stay but do not be surprised
to see if Sloan stays that AK still wants out. That relationship seems to be
permanently strained but Hornacek is teaching him how to shoot and how to block
Sloan out of his mind. Which makes you wonder if he was able to do that for AK,
what could he do for a team.
Remember folks Marty said the suns had INTERNAL discussions, which basically
means nothing. Jimmy heard the latest rumor is that the Jazz were having
internal discussions about trading CJ Miles for Lebron James, Jason Hart for
Steve Nash and Jarron Collins for Dwight Howard.
He does it all that is why the suns want him. They are finnaly figuring it out
that Defense wins championships. The only thing marion is better at is
finishing a play and finding an open man at the three point line when the middle
is jammed up. Nobody on the Jazz can do that. Well he is a little bit better
rebounder, but boozer is better rebounder than Stoudamire, and he can post
up.But kirilenko can pass and blocks and steals, and always plays good D,
but he lacks go to offense that the Jazz need but he is getting better. Both
have sub par shooting. Williams would love having two options on the fast break
Brewer and Marion. Marion would be loved in Utah.But will live with AK he
Is the best Defense player and Passer on the team.
It's not ALL about points. It's not all about the all-star player who averages
30 points a game. It is about the player who does all the little stuff who can
score if needed but also helps the other players score 30 points a game. AK
does this for the Jazz. He does all the little stuff so many "Super Stars"
aren't willing to do. If you think the Jazz can do without that who do you
think is going to step up and provide the even games that AK does? He always
gets a good amount of the five (Points, rebounds, blocks, assists, and steals.)
Take all those away and who will step up. IF you think Miles does everything AK
does you must be smoking something.
I also love AK. I also believe we could survive without AK. Survive, but not
thrive. The Jazz play their best basketball when AK is able to play.
I love AK, but the only thing he does that CJ doesn't is pass as well as Bird.
But CJ's defense and shooting are as good as AK's these days... We could
survive without AK.
I have been hearing all of these comments regarding Marion not resigning with
the Jazz IF he is traded for Kirilenko. So what if he doesn't resign?
Unloading Kirilenko for a short term contract sounds like a deal. Remember,
Millsap and Williams will need to be resigned. Williams for the max, and
Millsap for probably for Harpring like money? Keeping these two players is
critical for the team's future. I don't know what they would want to have Okur,
Boozer, Williams, and Marion all signed for max or close to it deals. I would
think erasing Kirilenko's contract from the books, and not being burdened with a
similar one would make more sense.