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Utahns favor local immigration laws
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Stop wasting time and tax dollars. Do it now!
DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS!
Does anyone here know what "La Raza" means? It means "The Race." Which race? Take a guess...
And COrdova isn't worried about the so-called "patchwork of legislation" from state to state. Different states have all sorts of different laws on all sorts of different issues. That's why we have different levels of government - so they can reflect local concerns.
And Cordova certainly isn't concerned that a handful of states have created "patchwork policies" on things like in-state tuition or driver's licenses for illegals, because if we followed the bulk of states on thpoe matters we wouldn't have them at all - but he supports those measures.
Why is it that we talk about these ILLEGAL students as if it would be horrible not to let them get discounted tuitions here? They want an education, they can go back to the country of their LEGAL residence and get an education there, too. All of those countries have colleges.
And why is it we talk as if sending them back to the country of their LEGAL residence would somehow be damaging or harmful, as if it were practically child abuse? No one thinks its abusive to leave, say, Mexico and to come to the USA. Why is it somehow abusive way when they travel in the reverse direction?
The bottom line is that it's just plain stupid to encourage people to commit a criminal act. Why don't these people who argue for in-state tution for illegals also argue for fighting car theft by letting them keep them car and paying for the gas and insurance and maintenance? BECAUSE EVERYONE KNOWS THAT CAR THEFTS WOULD SOAR THROUGH THE ROOF.
Please everyone go read an atlas and tell me which page says the United States is America. There's North, Central and South America. Which would make everyone living in these countries Americans.
They are not my fellow Americans. They aren't out on the street, either.
"With all these uneducated individuals living among us, the United States' level of intelligence is sure to look nice to the rest of the world."
If uneducated people are a bad thing we should send illegal immigrants home. They are the most uneducated group of all. Illegal immigration has driven California's academic performance to the bottom of the nation. They used to be near the top.
"Undocumented or not, they are living here and helping the economy"
Sure, the GNP may grow, but does that growth benefit Americans citizens? Stagnating wages and declining quality of life say "No."
"Seems to me that gangs are easily formed due to these circumstances"
People join gangs in high school (or sooner) not when they're 20.
"Please everyone go read an atlas and tell me which page says the United States is America. There's North, Central and South America. Which would make everyone living in these countries Americans."
Whatever. Fine, then - illegals are not "United States of Americans."
They don't belong in our country. They know it, Americans know it and now it's time that our government knows it?
Their anchor babies ARE NOT Americans. They were raised as mexicans, speaking spanish, in a mexican culture and were taught to be illegal mexicans in someone else's country. They can go back to mexico to claim their rights.
Americans don't want them here. I think this is crystal clear by now?
Any responsible parent would take their children with them. There is no law saying they can't.
Let's hope something is done to rid the USA of these ILLEGAL people before the country goes under financially (and takes the rest of us with it).
However, how many Americans have asked, �Why?� Why would the illegal Mexican immigrants (we�re not talking about Canadians) be coming to our country? More importantly why are they leaving their country?
Imagine a burning building, you�re inside and there is only one exit. Unfortunately it leads to some private property that is not to be TRESPASSED! That�s Mexico and much of Central and South America in a nutshell.
Now as human beings, Utahns, and most importantly �United States Americans�, the focus should not be on blocking that exit, but on putting out the fire. Putting up a fence is not going to stop a burning determined MexiCAN, but helping them overcome a corrupt government and giving them the opportunity for life, liberty and the pursuit of (wealth)happiness sure would.
Stopping all the benefits they have here only extends the burning building to Canada. At which point the illegal Mexican immigrants will still be running through the US to get there. Stop and Think. Band-Aid or Stitches?
Stop the free ride and they will go home. Don't give them housing and food and medical and education and...
FYI Canada won't take them. They will be sent back IF they make it over that border. They don't like that border.
Also, what is the actual huge percentage of crimes they are committing if you don't mind?
Ya know, there is already some "reform" on the books, it's called illegal immigration and deportation laws.
These are the facts: You come here illegally and suck up the resources of this country, you're going to get deported, one way or another.
I have a rule in my home: We don't do business with anyone or any business that is hiring illegals, period.
If everyone else stopped doing business with places that hire illegals, how long do you think they would stay in business?
How long do you think they would continue to hire illegals?
5 billion people on this planet live in countries poorer than Mexico. Which would you refuse to allow to come here on the grounds that "we have to help"?
You ever heard of a nation called Zimbabwe? It was once one of the richest nations in Africa. A few years ago the president for life, Robert Mugabe, decided to take all the land from the productive farmers and give it to his cronies. Net result: output fell, and millions of people are on the verge of starvation.
It's not resources people around the world lack - it's respect for law and order. That can't be given.
Not to be nitpicky, but I just looked at a few Mexican coins. They clearly say, "Estados Unidos Mexicanos". This translates to "Mexican United States". If they wanted to, they could surely add on "de America" meaning "of America", which as we all know is the area that Canada, the United States, and Mexico share (North America). So unfortunately, your argument is flawed.
Also, arguing about whether or not people on North, Central, and South America are Americans or not seems... unimportant. But they clearly are.
I agree with your argument that greed can destroy a country and lead to starvation, as has happened in Mexico. Seeing how this is a discussion on illegal immigration, I choose not to mention all of the other problems of the world. But yes they still do exist.
Perhaps you misunderstood what I meant by "help", that is that we should be helping to end the corruptness of their government so as to create a larger middle class so that there will be less of a desire to want to illegally immigrate here. I think that until that's fixed, most other proposed ideas will be unsuccessful and inhumane.
The truth is that the government of the US has its hands full dealing with America's problems - our trade deficit, our budget deficit, our declining educational system, our soaring consumer debt, home foreclosures, etc. It's not that I don't care about the rest of the world, it's just that we could easily watch our country go down the drain while trying to do "the humane thing" for the rest of the world.
There is nothing at all inhumane about shutting down the shop on illegals by taking away their government benefits (driver's licenses, registrations, public education) and heavily fining businesses that employ them. Eventually they'll go home, and Mexico will have to reform itself rather than dumping its problems on us.
If you believe that you sir/maam are ignorant.
Im not gonna post study after study here but they are a net loss for communitys.
Honestly if you believe that then Mexico should be an economic powerhouse.
and to you people who claim we must help Mexico google the name Carlos Slim, maybe he should.
America's economic problems are prevalent, and I think that spending our little resources that we have on legislation taking away these government benefits, building a giant wall across the southern border (as many have suggested), and spending for the never ending transportation of illegal immigrants back to their country, could be better spent on taking steps towards fixing their situation, and ultimately ours.
I think your ideals are admirable.
However, I think that fixing what is wrong with the other governments is absurd. We don't have control of our own problems right now. I don't believe this country has the power you think it has over other nations. I have been to other countries, they don't really like the USA that includes Mexico.
Look at the problem we are having "controlling" the Middle East.I don't think the people or government of Mexico would appreciate the kind of "help" required to remove the problems they face. It may help if some, like you, go to Mexico and teach them how to change their own country. I would caution you to make sure it is OK with the local and national governments. Their economy is doing great right now. The money flowing from this counrty to theirs is staggering.
If our economy tanks, one of the single largest factors will be states going broke doling out welfare, housing allowances, food stamps, medical, maternity, "well baby" programs, WIC, free education,NAFTA, CAFTA etc. without any form of compensation or reimbursement by the federal government.
That truth is that Americans do not figure into the plans that the traitorous elites and their enablers have for this nation. They are used for the purpose of extracting taxes from, so the politicians can carry out their plans with those taxes. That is where their value ends.
God bless America! Truly there's no other nation like it!
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To Frank Cordova, who sees this legislation as an "onslaught": Get over it! These people are here illegally, and should be treated as such. We are tired of paying for their health care as we watch our own insurance premiums skyrocket; we are tired of the drugs and crime illegal immigrants bring with them; we are tired of going to the grocery store and hearing nothing but Spanish. Enough is enough.