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Illegal immigration bills to keep an eye on
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Bill | 3:24 a.m. Jan. 16, 2008
Yes! Yes! Yes! ALL of these bills should pass this session. It's time to
end the invasion of the illegals!
debe71tx | 4:04 a.m. Jan. 16, 2008
It is so great to see the States taking the necessary steps to curb and
eliminate illegal alien priviledges. Good luck to Utah legislators on getting
these bills through and cleaning up your State. You are joining your neighbors
where bills have been passed and they are working.
Stay with it.
Stay with it.
E. Little | 5:36 a.m. Jan. 16, 2008
This is the chance for the Utah Legislature to do something meaningful. PLEASE
pass ALL of these proposed bills. One other bill, I propose, is to follow the
example of the sheriff in Maraposa County, Arizona. Set up a tent city to house
illegals. Feed them bologna sandwiches, and the only TV is twenty four hours of
G.(ee) W.(hiz)Bush telling us how well off we are. That should change their
minds about coming here to better their lives.
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Ralph Jodson | 8:30 a.m. Jan. 16, 2008
Dear Utah,
A message from Virginia. Crack down NOW and ASAP. You do not want to live in the 3rd world cesspool created here by the illegals.
Your quality of life will decline!!! Be WARNED.
A message from Virginia. Crack down NOW and ASAP. You do not want to live in the 3rd world cesspool created here by the illegals.
Your quality of life will decline!!! Be WARNED.
IM | 9:13 a.m. Jan. 16, 2008
Smoke and Mirrors - All the state does is grandstand with this junk - it's
silly.
RH | 9:43 a.m. Jan. 16, 2008
Pass ALL of the proposed bills and then ENFORCE them, not just have them sit
idle on paper as a feel good measure. It is time for the states to clean up on
illegal immigrants, lord knows the federal government won't do it. We
cannot afford to sit idle any longer, the choke hold is only getting tighter.
tenx | 9:47 a.m. Jan. 16, 2008
Writing comments is great but to really accomplish something we all need to
call/write/email all of our Legislators and tell them that we support State
action on Illegal Immigration. PLEASE DO IT. Our country is being invaded!!!!
al799 | 10:09 a.m. Jan. 16, 2008
Keeping immigrants out of the state or out of America is the most stupid
economic decision the government can make. Any economist can tell you that
immigration is one of three factors that contributes to economic growth. It is
no coincidence that while the border patrol is reducing the inflow of
immigrants, the housing market is going down and it will not be long before
America is an economic recesion. America is the No. 1 advocate of free trade of
products and services, shouldn't we also be the No. 1 advocate of free
trade of labor? The only way to stop immigration without paying the economic
cost, is to help poor countries grow -through the remitances immigrants send
home - otherwise we will never solve this problem.
RE:al799 | 11:10 a.m. Jan. 16, 2008
Um, we're keeping illegals out, the kind that take and don't give.
Controlled immigration is a key component of our economic growth models; key
word here is controlled. We welcome with open arms legal immigrants, as they
contribute to our system and thus should share the benefits. It's the ones
who circumvent the system that take advantage that ruin it for everybody.
JWR | 11:44 a.m. Jan. 16, 2008
Utah has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the nation. Let's
convince a percentage of the labor force to move out by creating a hostile legal
environment and see how well the state economy does.
KD | 12:54 p.m. Jan. 16, 2008
Which illegals "take and don't give"? They WORK. They
don't draw welfare. They pay taxes. The recent surge in illegal
immigration is directly tied to NAFTA; policy decisions have created these
problems and reform of NAFTA will be instrumental in ending them. This, hand in
hand with comprehensive immigration reform. Be warned yourselves! Our economic
woes are not caused by illegal immigration - politicians have found themselves a
perfect, powerless scapegoat, and the uneducated masses like yourselves have
fallen for it. This problem is actually nuanced. Complex. Read up before
spouting off. And BTW, the sheriff of Maricopa county set up the tent city to
house, not illegal immigrants, but the overflow of from that state's prison
system. America's citizenry at its finest.
Bettybb | 1:12 p.m. Jan. 16, 2008
KD
Yes illegals get welfare for their anchor babies. Check out the Congressional Budget Office report on this. Also the Heritage Foundation report. It is estiamted each illegal AFTER THEIR CONTRIUBITON IS ADDED, is still subsidized to the tune of 24,000 per year.
Illegals are parasites.
Yes illegals get welfare for their anchor babies. Check out the Congressional Budget Office report on this. Also the Heritage Foundation report. It is estiamted each illegal AFTER THEIR CONTRIUBITON IS ADDED, is still subsidized to the tune of 24,000 per year.
Illegals are parasites.
Anonymous | 1:18 p.m. Jan. 16, 2008
no illegal alien(not undoctumented,this term is wrong)has ANY RIGHTS IN THE USA.
Anonymous | 2:06 p.m. Jan. 16, 2008
ALL ILLEGALS take - take jobs, IDS, space in classrooms etc. They are by
diffintion, LAWBREAKERS>
I have nothing against the legal immigrats from any country, but lets get tough with the one that have already shown by their illegal immigratrion that the do not care about our laws. I say make in a felony in UTah to be an illegal.
I have nothing against the legal immigrats from any country, but lets get tough with the one that have already shown by their illegal immigratrion that the do not care about our laws. I say make in a felony in UTah to be an illegal.
common sense | 2:30 p.m. Jan. 16, 2008
Well, I read that this issue has brought out the true colors of bigots; remember
that so far the illegel situation is being blamed on the mexican border; the
terrorists who destroyed the twin towers camed from over the ocean and some were
legal; the terroists who bombed the fed. building in Oklahoma, were good'ol
american born men.
Can you list terrorism conducted by those you seem to focus as the only illegals in this country being latinos?
How about those illegals from Canada, China, Europe, oh could that be that its easier to blame a group that does show up americans when it comes to working harder and longer for less?!
Please by all means, go and take those jobs away from those illegals; first go out and pick the lettuce, grapes, tomatoes, cucumbers, almonds, oranges, etc. Make sure you demand to start at $14.00 because you have to bend over to pick and work in contaminated crops. Then go and take those back breaking construction jobs, and by all means please go and clean up after me in the hotels that I stay in, I like my toilet boil real clean!
geez, stop your Complaining
Can you list terrorism conducted by those you seem to focus as the only illegals in this country being latinos?
How about those illegals from Canada, China, Europe, oh could that be that its easier to blame a group that does show up americans when it comes to working harder and longer for less?!
Please by all means, go and take those jobs away from those illegals; first go out and pick the lettuce, grapes, tomatoes, cucumbers, almonds, oranges, etc. Make sure you demand to start at $14.00 because you have to bend over to pick and work in contaminated crops. Then go and take those back breaking construction jobs, and by all means please go and clean up after me in the hotels that I stay in, I like my toilet boil real clean!
geez, stop your Complaining
Stewart | 8:10 p.m. Jan. 16, 2008
If these bills are passed and enforced, it would be a big step towards taking
Utah off the sanctuary state list. As long as Utah enables illegal immigration
the state is part of the problem. As soon as illegal employment is stopped
illegal immigration will stop, and they will self deport, children and all.
Problem solved
True Blue | 9:01 p.m. Jan. 16, 2008
Bigot? Racist? Not on your life! This is a song and dance used by those who
would break our laws.
A racist is one who believes that one group should have rights that another does not have. Well, stop and think! It is the illegal aliens who believe that THEY should be above our laws, while the rest of us follow them.
That, my friends, is racist!
And, to the one who whines about it being a federal issue: Well, it is, but when they won't do the job, WE CAN do it at the state level.
This group of bills this year will go a long way to doing just that.
A racist is one who believes that one group should have rights that another does not have. Well, stop and think! It is the illegal aliens who believe that THEY should be above our laws, while the rest of us follow them.
That, my friends, is racist!
And, to the one who whines about it being a federal issue: Well, it is, but when they won't do the job, WE CAN do it at the state level.
This group of bills this year will go a long way to doing just that.
Carlos Gonzalez | 12:04 a.m. Jan. 17, 2008
Illegal immigrants come to this country to work, and that under exploitation
conditions. The real criminals are the American citizens and companies that
knowingly employ illegal immigrants. Prosecute those and the enticement to
illegal immigrants will disappear, as it is being done in Arizona since January.
They will have to leave the country, as they cannot support themselves without
working. Perhaps when they return to their countries, they will help persuade
their governments to protect their country's local jobs and markets from
foreign companies which are pushed on them under the guise of "free
trade", so that they don't need to leave their countries to live a
decent live.
JD | 6:09 a.m. Jan. 17, 2008
Yes, they come here to work and find a very accomidating welfare system.
Statistics show that illegals immigrants do pay taxes. On the average about
$10,000 in taxes per year. They also use on the average about $30,000 per year
in various welfare programs. Sorry but it won't work out in the long run at
this rate. These statistics are from a recent radio show on NPR (national public
radio) which is a pretty liberal source generally overly protective of human
rights. The winner in the illegal immigration situation is super large companies
who let the government pay for employee "benifits".
Winston | 2:38 p.m. Jan. 17, 2008
Hmmm. Check. Check. And check. I just read a story from the ADL about how
so-called mainstream anti-immigrant groups increasingly are adopting the tactics
and rhetoric of racist groups and moving it into the mainstream. It's
almost all here.
The report cites several key tactics used by anti-immigrant groups, including:
Describing immigrants as "third world invaders," who come to America to destroy our heritage, "colonize" the country and attack our "way of life." This charge is used against Hispanics, Asians and other people of color.
Using terminology that describes immigrants as part of "hordes" that "swarm" over the border. This dehumanizing language has become common.
Portraying immigrants as carriers of diseases like leprosy, tuberculosis, Chagas disease (a potentially fatal parasitic disease), dengue fever, polio, malaria.
Depicting immigrants as criminals, murderers, rapists, terrorists, and a danger to children and families.
Propagating conspiracy theories about an alleged secret "reconquista" plot by Mexican immigrants to create a "greater Mexico" by seizing seven states in the American Southwest that once belonged to Mexico.
Keep going, you've only missed a few.
The report cites several key tactics used by anti-immigrant groups, including:
Describing immigrants as "third world invaders," who come to America to destroy our heritage, "colonize" the country and attack our "way of life." This charge is used against Hispanics, Asians and other people of color.
Using terminology that describes immigrants as part of "hordes" that "swarm" over the border. This dehumanizing language has become common.
Portraying immigrants as carriers of diseases like leprosy, tuberculosis, Chagas disease (a potentially fatal parasitic disease), dengue fever, polio, malaria.
Depicting immigrants as criminals, murderers, rapists, terrorists, and a danger to children and families.
Propagating conspiracy theories about an alleged secret "reconquista" plot by Mexican immigrants to create a "greater Mexico" by seizing seven states in the American Southwest that once belonged to Mexico.
Keep going, you've only missed a few.
Y'all comin' to the Klan meetin? | 4:27 p.m. Jan. 17, 2008
To honor civil rights and respect of our fellow men, we are going to have our
legislature meet on the same day we honor Martin Luther King to establish, once
and for all, that immigrants are a second-class people. After all, illegals is
illegal. Nevermind the fact most Utahns egregiously overextend themselves
financially and then shrug responsibility by being the state with the highest
level of bankruptcy in the nation. Yet, we honorable Utahns will contintue to
presume to tell others that breaking the law is dishonorable and at least one of
us on this here thread believes THAT makes a racist. Well, I just want to
congratulate all you brothers and sisters. We'll be meetin behind the
stakehouse for a short meeting on Sunday. TIME TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!
p.s., nevermind the fact these so-called law breakers are the only reason you old geezers and baby boomers are getting a social security check.
p.s., nevermind the fact these so-called law breakers are the only reason you old geezers and baby boomers are getting a social security check.
coldcutcommando | 5:55 a.m. Jan. 18, 2008
"seenyoor, ar yoo shur yoow wan 2 tayk dat hunka teen throo da
baha?"
YOOO BETCHA! REP. SANDSTROM.....YOO ROKK DOOOOD!
(Hint: Check the demographics, they like to live most where they are welcome ie, the "Progressive" Northeast excluding the Hamptons, Hyannis, Martha Vineyard and Nantucket of course.)
YOOO BETCHA! REP. SANDSTROM.....YOO ROKK DOOOOD!
(Hint: Check the demographics, they like to live most where they are welcome ie, the "Progressive" Northeast excluding the Hamptons, Hyannis, Martha Vineyard and Nantucket of course.)
The Old Submariner | 10:43 p.m. Jan. 22, 2008
Lets see. I had a Texan court-martialed because he got in a fight with another
Texan. Seems as the "good ole boy" (GOB) objected to Cortinez calling
himself a Texan. Cortinez was 4th generation Texan. The GOB was 2nd generation
emigrant from Kansas. When I had a mortage, I was always 3 to 4 months ahead.
Plus, I'm an "old geezer" who paid into the forced SS system
since 1957. Before that I was real happy with the concept that I would serve
faithfully for 20+ years in the Submarine Force & retire with a
pension-earned; & complete dental, medical coverage for wife & self.
Only part of that has been met. No fault of the illegal alien that the promise
wasn't filled.
But, I had to live by the UCMJ in addition to all federal, state & local laws. Violation of any of them & my military career was in jeopardy. Why should I accept anything less from those that come here in violation of the law? I don't. By the way, I have a grandson, Kenneth (named for Grandpa) & middle name Ortega (named for his dad). If we now choose to ignore laws, anarchy is here.
But, I had to live by the UCMJ in addition to all federal, state & local laws. Violation of any of them & my military career was in jeopardy. Why should I accept anything less from those that come here in violation of the law? I don't. By the way, I have a grandson, Kenneth (named for Grandpa) & middle name Ortega (named for his dad). If we now choose to ignore laws, anarchy is here.
News Flash | 11:23 p.m. Jan. 24, 2008
For those of you who believe that getting rid of illegal immigrants will be the
solution to our Country's problem, then be prepared to fill there jobs.
It's funny how people complain how bad immigrants are, but did you know
that more than 40,000 people of our population is made up off illegal
immigrants? And that�s just from the 1990's. How dare
someone judge these people. What would you do if you lived in poverty in your
country and wanted a better life for your kids? What are immigrants doing in
this Country that is so bad? O I forgot, they work for minimum wage or less, go
from paycheck to pay check just to live in some crummy apartment, and try to
better their kids because they can't better themselves. Would you like to
work as a housekeeper, dish washer, cook, fast food restaurants... etc.
P.S. America was founded by our four fathers that decided to leave England because they wanted to be free and have a better life. All "true" Americans started out being immigrants. Isn't that ironic.
P.S. America was founded by our four fathers that decided to leave England because they wanted to be free and have a better life. All "true" Americans started out being immigrants. Isn't that ironic.
Anonymous | 11:40 p.m. Jan. 24, 2008
All Americans have come from immigrant back round.
edgar | 8:45 p.m. Feb. 18, 2008
god bless the inmigrants and god bless america
jeanne | 1:39 p.m. Dec. 26, 2008
God bless the Sheriff of Maraposa County, Arizona
He was put in office to uphold the law and that is what he is doing.
Just because the unlawful arn't being treated as important foreign dignitaries, is no reason for U.S. citizens to complain.
He was put in office to uphold the law and that is what he is doing.
Just because the unlawful arn't being treated as important foreign dignitaries, is no reason for U.S. citizens to complain.
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