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Seattle Conservative | 1:06 a.m. Dec. 31, 2007
There is no way Huckabee will be able to take New Hamshire from Romney. I can
see South Carolina going to Huckabee though.
Jim Minnesota | 1:31 a.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Huckabee is a one hit wonder. We (conservatives) need to keep the white house
and we must choose someone who can actually make it and lead responsible. I
don't think that any true Mormon can actually side with Huckalie, when he
attacked and disrespected your faith just to appeal to his voters. Regardless
where you go to Church you should be measured on your record and your integrity
and not on the fact that you go to a particular church or shoot a bird. See
Huckascared does not answer the questions on his record, he tries to justify
them. He avoids the question and he just focus on the "attacks".
People know that Mike can not go on after Iowa, not against McCain in NH or
Romney in SC or Rudy in Florida. You can not call Mike a conservative when he
raised taxes, pardon criminals and plays the faith card when he has to. He
tripped on Pakistan can�t even fund his campaign, how is he
going to run the US.
He is the farthest thing from conservative; he is running with the wrong party.
Romney is a leader and a man of integrity. He has proved it!
He is the farthest thing from conservative; he is running with the wrong party.
Romney is a leader and a man of integrity. He has proved it!
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Anonymous | 11:02 a.m. Dec. 31, 2007
The people were going for Huckabee because they figured he was an honest good
man. However, they are now finding out he is not that good with the issues and
I think even non-members of of LDS faith are offended by remarks he has made
concerning a religion he knows little about. Romney is the MAN!
B. Mercer | 11:15 a.m. Dec. 31, 2007
If you throw out all the gargage about his religion, Romney is the clear
contender.
Looking at his record even Democrats would vote for him.
We really need a smart, honest man in the White House.
Looking at his record even Democrats would vote for him.
We really need a smart, honest man in the White House.
Jeff, in Texas | 11:28 a.m. Dec. 31, 2007
I did not hear what Huckabee said about LDS faith. I would be interested to
know. At this point, Huckabee respresents more of my political beliefs than any
other candidate. I fully support Huckabee. I can not let my religion dictate
my vote - just as the church leaders do not let politics dictate our teachings.
J. Humphrey | 11:33 a.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Huckabee has suddenly become the one who appears to be "desperate,"
going after Romney directly, calling him "dishonorable" and running a
"completely dishonest" campaign. In Romney's so -called
"negative" ads where Romney challenges Huckabee's record on the
ISSUES, Romney also cites his sources, such as the name of the paper or AP
Press. Mike Huckabee definitely seems to have two faces... one behind a mask,
that we must look carefully at... For me, Romney is the better candidate.
Wheeping Whompus | 11:39 a.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Here's my simple analogy: Let's say I'm an Evangelical
Christian. I've been going to a grocery store I'm really happy with
for over a year (Romney). Last month, a new grocery store opened up that offered
ground beef for 39 cents a pound and 2 for 1 milk (Huckabee). I started shopping
there only to realize after a few weeks that I really don't like the store,
I'm not saving money in the end, and the ground beef isn't very good
anyway. I go back to the store I'm familiar with and has served me well.
Huckabee is a gimmick with his smooth talking, his whisper campaign against
Romney's faith, and his poor record (raising taxes in Arkansas and
pardons). The Iowans have liked Romney for a year and will return to him. Romney
will win Iowa.
H. C. (Joe) Raymond | 11:44 a.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Mitt Romney stands for Strong Families, Strong Economy, and Strong Military.
Strong Families and Economy are self evident. Strong military can actually be
an instrument for peace if used to defend freedom. I believe that Mitt Romney
would use it for that purpose.
Romney all the way! | 12:34 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
haveHow can anyone say that Huckabee is a conservative? He raised taxes and he
signed a tough immigration bill in Arkansas, then he never communicated with
Homeland Security to actually enforce it. This is the same kind of two-faced,
smoke-and-mirrors political maneuvering we see all the time from politicians.
Romney on the other hand, stood up for conservative family values in the most
liberal state in the country. Does anyone find it amazing that Romney got
elected in Massachusetts at all. His integrity appeals to all sides. He can win
the White House! Romney did not attack Huckabee. He merely asked some legitimate
questions about real issues. Huckabee in turn went after Romney based on his
religion. I don't know about the rest of you, but that is way below the
belt and totally classless if you ask me. What the heck does his religion have
to do with being a good leader? I don't care what religion you are or
aren't. Mitt Romney has proven himself to be a man of integrity, sound
business practices, and most importantly, he has the experience and family
values to give this country a leader we can be proud of again.
Athiests for Romney | 12:37 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
It's all about integrity and honour. Romney clearly understands the
separation of State and Church, he's a proven performer. Compare them all
and you'll end up in the same space I'm in...
CC | 12:38 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
As LDS, I did not automatically support Mitt Romney, mainly because I have not
fully understood his thoughts on abortion and gay rights. Is there someone who
can help me reconcile that in my mind? FYI: I am a Romney supporter now
although I thought there were some lower tier candidates I felt had some
excellent qualities. Mike Huckabee was one of them. However, when religion
became an issue and he "subtly" threw out comments/questions against
Mitt's religion, I lost a lot of respect for him and really questioned
Huckabee's integrity. Using his evangelical base (which has been known to
actively malign the church because we do not accept THEIR brand of Christianity)
as a means to advance himself politically does not settle well with me. Had he
not done that, I perhaps would've looked at him more seriously. BUT, back
to my original....someone's sincere thoughts on Mitt's abortion/gay
previous stands. Not necessary to share any sarcastic, cynical or ugly
remarks. I would appreciate fair and balanced thoughts....
jack | 1:32 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
I am tired of all the people questioning (and sometimes slandering) LDS
doctrine! Anyone who wants to know anything at all about "MORMON"
doctrine should ask an "active" member of the church of Jesus Christ
of Latter Day Saints NOT someone who has a hidden agenda for spewing RUMORS or
other UNTRUTHS. There is NOTHING "hidden or secret" about LDS
doctrine. The church has hundreds of web pages that invite anyone to ask as many
questions as they want about any subject they choose.
that said...I would run as fast as possible to vote for anyone who uses the teachings of Jesus Christ to help make decisions on a daily basis. The only candidate that I see (by his example) that qualifies is ROMNEY
that said...I would run as fast as possible to vote for anyone who uses the teachings of Jesus Christ to help make decisions on a daily basis. The only candidate that I see (by his example) that qualifies is ROMNEY
Anonymous | 2:10 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Romney is MY man. Wouldn't it be refreshing to have a President in the
White House that we could really count on to maintain his integrity and honesty
while running the country more like a streamlined business than a bulky
political machine. Mitt Romney has shown us that he can get things straightened
out as he did with the 2002 Olympics and with the state of Massachusetts.
MMH - Las Vegas | 2:16 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Huckabee was never a viable candidate. He is a strategy. Who is neck and neck
overall with Romney? McCain. Who will benefit most from Romney losing Iowa?
McCain. Who has no chance upsetting Romney in Iowa himself? McCain. Enter
Huckabee - late. The perfect anti candidate to Romney religiously. He surges
up in the polls based solely on religious preference. Unfortunately for McCain,
Huckabee didn't enter late enough. The people are getting to know him and
it is killing his popularity. And now who is ganging up on Romney? Huckabee
and McCain. The anti-mormon and Romney's biggest political rival.
Suprise! (Why do I brand Huckabee as an anti-mormon? Witness the plethora of
anti-mormon literature published by the church for which he is an ordained
minister. Oh, and listen to him talk.) I agree with 'Atheists for
Romney'. Romney won't make choices about advisors based on religion,
but based on qualifications. And, thank goodness, he isn't running on a
"God loves me more than you" platform. (Remember Huckabee's
statement after Romney's address on his religion to the GOP? "Give me
airtime and a microphone and I'll make you a God speech and throw in an
alter to boot!" Please!)
bollinger babe | 2:35 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
To Mormons for Huckabee:
Are you aware of Judicial Watch? their reputation? They gave a less than favorable grade to Huckabee, a Johnny One Note. We need a Johnny Hundred Note: a man experienced, and/or committed, principled in all three areas of greatest concern to America-----military, social (translate--amnesty, family, life) and financial stability. Upon these three foundations, our nation rests.
Huckabee pardoned hardened criminals--how strong will he stand against international criminals, who are world leaders?
Huckabee can't even fund his own presidential campaign; how can he hope to manage/stabilize the world's greatest, largest economy/business (strong indicators predict financial recession in coming months.)
Want to know the future? Look to the past.
You don't want a Willy/Martin presidential handcart expedition as the nation faces a terrible political winter ahead. Decisions made over the next few years by U.S. president may have a greater impact on the world/nation than the last 500 years.
Vote whomever, but why waste it on a man whose accomplishments are so limited? Mitt is proof, not puff. He is the only candidate with strong , proven qualifications. He is head and shoulders above the rest; overwhelming financial success, uncommon problem solver, vision/values and smarts. Moroni Mitt
Are you aware of Judicial Watch? their reputation? They gave a less than favorable grade to Huckabee, a Johnny One Note. We need a Johnny Hundred Note: a man experienced, and/or committed, principled in all three areas of greatest concern to America-----military, social (translate--amnesty, family, life) and financial stability. Upon these three foundations, our nation rests.
Huckabee pardoned hardened criminals--how strong will he stand against international criminals, who are world leaders?
Huckabee can't even fund his own presidential campaign; how can he hope to manage/stabilize the world's greatest, largest economy/business (strong indicators predict financial recession in coming months.)
Want to know the future? Look to the past.
You don't want a Willy/Martin presidential handcart expedition as the nation faces a terrible political winter ahead. Decisions made over the next few years by U.S. president may have a greater impact on the world/nation than the last 500 years.
Vote whomever, but why waste it on a man whose accomplishments are so limited? Mitt is proof, not puff. He is the only candidate with strong , proven qualifications. He is head and shoulders above the rest; overwhelming financial success, uncommon problem solver, vision/values and smarts. Moroni Mitt
Anonymous | 2:42 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
I enjoy reading these comments and just have one to add - why does there have to
be a "direct buy" ad right over several of the comments that you
can't click off. makes me so annoyed.
Yeah Romney all the way! I love watching the Iowa process and look forward to the early part of 2008 so that we can get on with this election process.
Yeah Romney all the way! I love watching the Iowa process and look forward to the early part of 2008 so that we can get on with this election process.
Dolores Rosario | 2:50 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Trust is basic to me. I believe that above all else, we should be able to trust
our President to be honest, morally clean, and to do what is best for the
country. Based on those three criteria alone, the only candidate, in either
party, who passes all three is Mitt Romney. I trust him.
I was embarrassed to be an American when Clinton was President and his dirty laundry was aired worldwide. A man who can't be trusted by his own wife, surely can't be trusted by his country. His weaknesses are disgraceful and prove that he is unsuitable to lead a nation. Any study of the scriptures will show that when leaders of armies or nations were chosen by the people, they were men of strong moral fiber and unpeachable integrity. That's what we need today and in America's future to keep her strong. We have several other candidates currently running with those same weaknesses. I want a President with strong character and moral fiber that I can look up to and
be proud of. I want Mitt.
I was embarrassed to be an American when Clinton was President and his dirty laundry was aired worldwide. A man who can't be trusted by his own wife, surely can't be trusted by his country. His weaknesses are disgraceful and prove that he is unsuitable to lead a nation. Any study of the scriptures will show that when leaders of armies or nations were chosen by the people, they were men of strong moral fiber and unpeachable integrity. That's what we need today and in America's future to keep her strong. We have several other candidates currently running with those same weaknesses. I want a President with strong character and moral fiber that I can look up to and
be proud of. I want Mitt.
Linda | 3:06 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Romney is our man for the White House. Huckabee is talking out both sides of
his mouth. He doesn't want to run a negative campaign, but his underhanded
comment about the Mormon religion is negativity.
Be careful of McCain, too. He is also a Mormon hater, and a democrat liberal in sheep's clothing. I am originally from AZ, and McCain was a democrat at one time, and switched parties to suit his own selfish gain He is very much a democrat liberal still.
Be careful of McCain, too. He is also a Mormon hater, and a democrat liberal in sheep's clothing. I am originally from AZ, and McCain was a democrat at one time, and switched parties to suit his own selfish gain He is very much a democrat liberal still.
Dolores - Judge Not | 3:17 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Dolores,
It seemed to me that you are a very judgmental person, and is that what God wants for you to become? Is that the religion that God has taught you? In that case, do we want to trust the comments of those who openly break the wishes of God, when He has stated very clearly, judge not, lest ye be judge?
Clinton may not be the perfectly moral leader, but He has helped bring this country much better then the man that went after him.
Why don't you also talk about Bush being the incompetent, break America into the smallest pieces possible that, even America's greatest allies, has now abandoned their support. The budget is the worst it's ever been, all within 7 years, the dollar the lowest in decades, and the world's view upon this country now look like the world's superpower is a country who doesn't even know how to take care of their own people, such is the event of Katrina.
You want Mitt because he is a Mormon, nothing more than a bird of a feather flocks together.
He does look Presidential, doesn't he?
It seemed to me that you are a very judgmental person, and is that what God wants for you to become? Is that the religion that God has taught you? In that case, do we want to trust the comments of those who openly break the wishes of God, when He has stated very clearly, judge not, lest ye be judge?
Clinton may not be the perfectly moral leader, but He has helped bring this country much better then the man that went after him.
Why don't you also talk about Bush being the incompetent, break America into the smallest pieces possible that, even America's greatest allies, has now abandoned their support. The budget is the worst it's ever been, all within 7 years, the dollar the lowest in decades, and the world's view upon this country now look like the world's superpower is a country who doesn't even know how to take care of their own people, such is the event of Katrina.
You want Mitt because he is a Mormon, nothing more than a bird of a feather flocks together.
He does look Presidential, doesn't he?
Pwasi | 3:22 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Dear CC:
Here's how I see it:
"Freedom of Choice" and "Agency" are an important part of LDS religion (I am LDS). As we make choices for good, we grow closer to Christ, are happier as a consequence. "Choice", however, has taken on a very different meaning in the political scheme--to promote taking sacred, innocent, unborn life in an attempt to avoid the consequences of poor choices or to use them in scientific experiments. When "Pro-choice" promoted legislation that went against Governor Romney's conscience, he stood against it, and became Pro-life.
I would guess his reasoning in Gay Rights is similar. We believe that we should treat all people with love and respect i.e. as family, friends, co-workers, employers. But when "rights" start to include indoctrination of school children and changing the sacred union of marriage and family, that goes too far.
To me, this shows that Mitt Romney has the backbone to follow his moral conscience, not any political movement. His values there for all to see. He's lived them all his life. He's not doing this for the money, or the power. He's doing it because he truly believes he can help our country. So do I.
Here's how I see it:
"Freedom of Choice" and "Agency" are an important part of LDS religion (I am LDS). As we make choices for good, we grow closer to Christ, are happier as a consequence. "Choice", however, has taken on a very different meaning in the political scheme--to promote taking sacred, innocent, unborn life in an attempt to avoid the consequences of poor choices or to use them in scientific experiments. When "Pro-choice" promoted legislation that went against Governor Romney's conscience, he stood against it, and became Pro-life.
I would guess his reasoning in Gay Rights is similar. We believe that we should treat all people with love and respect i.e. as family, friends, co-workers, employers. But when "rights" start to include indoctrination of school children and changing the sacred union of marriage and family, that goes too far.
To me, this shows that Mitt Romney has the backbone to follow his moral conscience, not any political movement. His values there for all to see. He's lived them all his life. He's not doing this for the money, or the power. He's doing it because he truly believes he can help our country. So do I.
Romney all the way! | 3:26 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
CC - Romney has very honestly explained his stance on s and abortion, and has
explained equally well the changes he has made in those areas. If I may clarify
what he has stated publically: His stance has never been pro either way, but he
has long held that the "Federal" government should not have the
authority to dictate to the individual "State" governments about the
right to choos or not to choose an abortion. He has never been
"pro-choice", only "pro state's right to legislate." In
regards to s, he has stated that they are people to and while he does not
support tham being given minority status, and the inherent benefits that come
with that, nor does he support their desire to obtain a marriage, he does
support them as human beings with all the other rights the rest of us have. On
that, I must agree 100%. While I am not necessarily comnfortable in their
presence, I am quite sure their are characteristics of mine that others are not
comfortable about either. Hopefully that helps a little with your question.
PEP from Out West | 3:39 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
The best predictor of the future is the past. I believe the people of Iowa &
the Nation republicans, democrats, and independents will vote for the person
with a past record of leadership, integrity, common sense, and the ability to
get things done. That person is Mitt Romney. If you don't agree look at all
of the facts. Religion is not the issue. Competence and integrity are.
Susan Brown | 3:44 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
This country would be so lucky if Mitt Romney wins!! We NEED a man of his
integrity and experience!!
Texas Republican | 3:44 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Huckabee claims to be a Christian but does not clearly follow the example of
Jesus Christ in his actions. Why did he feel the need to attack Romney's
religion? I have yet to hear Romney say anything negative about another
candidates religion. Romney has character (that is evident when he speaks).
I'm impressed with the fact that Romney has referred to our founding
fathers being "divinely inspired" when they wrote the
constitution...well spoken and TRUE!
Calutex | 3:57 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
In the summer of 2007 a Texas neighbor asked me what I thought of Mitt Romney
and the other presidential field. My neighbor knows little of the LDS faith but
knew I was an active member. In response I listed pros and cons about several
candidates, including my preference, one who never entered the race.
When my neighbor asked again about Romney, I answered that I was open to him, but I wouldn't vote for him just because he was LDS. I needed to learn more. (I liked Newt for President, personally.) I knew something of Romney's views on abortion, expressed by an LDS female friend of mine from Massachussets who knew him personally.
I paid close attention to the Republican You-Tube debates. That eliminated three candidates for me (including McCain). It dropped two into doubtful status (including Fred Thompson).
Following the debates, by razor-thin margins I ranked my top three candidates as 1) Huckabee, 2)Giuliani, and 3) Romney. (Mitt stumbled and was evasive on some questions.)
Next came Huckabee's disrespectful comments about my LDS faith. It showed ignorance and bigotry. Soon after I heard Romney speak on faith and America. It's now down to Mitt or Rudy for me.
When my neighbor asked again about Romney, I answered that I was open to him, but I wouldn't vote for him just because he was LDS. I needed to learn more. (I liked Newt for President, personally.) I knew something of Romney's views on abortion, expressed by an LDS female friend of mine from Massachussets who knew him personally.
I paid close attention to the Republican You-Tube debates. That eliminated three candidates for me (including McCain). It dropped two into doubtful status (including Fred Thompson).
Following the debates, by razor-thin margins I ranked my top three candidates as 1) Huckabee, 2)Giuliani, and 3) Romney. (Mitt stumbled and was evasive on some questions.)
Next came Huckabee's disrespectful comments about my LDS faith. It showed ignorance and bigotry. Soon after I heard Romney speak on faith and America. It's now down to Mitt or Rudy for me.
SAES | 4:00 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Who really believes that Hilary has the experience she needs to manage the
nations budget, the nations foreign affairs, the nations domestic affairs, or
how about the nations Armed Services? She sounds like she wants to go on an 8
year spending spree at the expense of the taxpayers of this nation, and no
telling what she will buy. Huckabee seems more interested in putting down the
Mormon faith from his "Presidential" pulpit more than anything else.
Obama too inexperienced and too liberal. Edwards too left. The only candidate
I would trust with the White House and the power that goes with it is Mitt
Romney. Can you believe it, he still loves his first and only wife and all his
kids! He also knows how to budget money pretty well and the people of
Massachusetts haven't been bashing him during all this. Go Romney, you
definitely have my vote.
victoria Sutherland | 4:00 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
The White House is our National Home. It is sacred. It should only be
inhabited by a family....one with high morals, high integrity. Who qualifies?
Ing | 4:04 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
I find it interesting that the discussion here is completely about Mitt Romney,
when the article was about ALL the candidates, Democrat and Republican. Guess
that tells us where Utah's head is.
Myself, I don't think I could vote for Romney, though I'm tempted. He seems to follow the Bush doctrine pretty closely, and as far as I'm concerned that whole thing has been nothing short of disastrous. I have always considered myself independent-minded, but I used to vote Republican most of the time. Not anymore. I still do sometimes, but when it's important, when the truly BIG things (health care, Iraq, foreign policy, national policy on the environment) are at stake, I tend to go Democrat. They just tend to get it better. (Notice I didn't say gay marriage or family values: family values, indeed all personal values, come from FAMILIES, not the president.)
In a lot of ways it would be nice to see a Mormon actually have a chance to become president--but that by itself is NOT enough reason to vote for the guy. Here's to learning more about Romney...and may the best President win!
Myself, I don't think I could vote for Romney, though I'm tempted. He seems to follow the Bush doctrine pretty closely, and as far as I'm concerned that whole thing has been nothing short of disastrous. I have always considered myself independent-minded, but I used to vote Republican most of the time. Not anymore. I still do sometimes, but when it's important, when the truly BIG things (health care, Iraq, foreign policy, national policy on the environment) are at stake, I tend to go Democrat. They just tend to get it better. (Notice I didn't say gay marriage or family values: family values, indeed all personal values, come from FAMILIES, not the president.)
In a lot of ways it would be nice to see a Mormon actually have a chance to become president--but that by itself is NOT enough reason to vote for the guy. Here's to learning more about Romney...and may the best President win!
Leah Lopez | 4:32 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Frankly I was waiting for someone to give Romney's stance on issues such as
abortion and gay rights. Fortunately for me I live in one of the last states to
have a primary, but that also means that I don't follow the issues as well
as I should. Anyone know a link that would get me to a site where I can see
these contenders side by side with their stances? I remember a site like that
in 2004. So far I want to support Romney, but I want to be sure.
Utah Democrat | 5:07 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Why is all the talk only about Mitt, Mike and McCain? What about Hilary and
Obama? I think Mitt's a great guy too and, possibly, a good presidential
candidate but to me he's still a Republican. I'm tired of hearing
news about the economy falling apart, bank foreclosures, paying $3/gallon at the
pump, daily slayings in Iraq, etc. It's our current Republican government,
which I once backed, that got us into this mess and I'm one among many that
is ready for change.
As far as taxes go, I would rather reduce my living expenses by 25% (which is about how much they've gone up during the current presidency) and pay an additional 2% in taxes. If you don't believe the cost of living increase, during the current presidency...
...my rent increased from $425 - $620.
...milk went from $1.50 to $3.00 per gallon.
...the price of eggs doubled.
...gasoline went up the same as milk.
...etc, etc, etc.
While we Americans are struggling to get by, our government is spending billions of dollars (or is it trillions now, I�ve stopped counting?) on a war that should have never happened in the first place.
As far as taxes go, I would rather reduce my living expenses by 25% (which is about how much they've gone up during the current presidency) and pay an additional 2% in taxes. If you don't believe the cost of living increase, during the current presidency...
...my rent increased from $425 - $620.
...milk went from $1.50 to $3.00 per gallon.
...the price of eggs doubled.
...gasoline went up the same as milk.
...etc, etc, etc.
While we Americans are struggling to get by, our government is spending billions of dollars (or is it trillions now, I�ve stopped counting?) on a war that should have never happened in the first place.
Aussie gal | 5:18 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
CC-
Regarding Romney's "thoughts on abortion" etc, I can't speak for him, but here's my take. We know all of us have 'free agency'... we are free to choose who we become and what we make of our lives. I do NOT support abortion. And yet, sadly, some people use their 'free agency' to end life. So while I myself am 'pro-life', I cannot take away the agency of others to be 'pro-choice'.
I consider Mitt's previous stand on abortion to be more an acknowledgement that we all have free choice, moderated by the laws of the land. This does not mean that we/he accept/s or condone/s the choice itself.
Hope that helps.
Regarding Romney's "thoughts on abortion" etc, I can't speak for him, but here's my take. We know all of us have 'free agency'... we are free to choose who we become and what we make of our lives. I do NOT support abortion. And yet, sadly, some people use their 'free agency' to end life. So while I myself am 'pro-life', I cannot take away the agency of others to be 'pro-choice'.
I consider Mitt's previous stand on abortion to be more an acknowledgement that we all have free choice, moderated by the laws of the land. This does not mean that we/he accept/s or condone/s the choice itself.
Hope that helps.
John M. Schreyer, Switzerland | 5:18 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Dear Mitt Romney and family. Dear future President of the US. We thank you with
all our heart. We are so hapy that the future President of the United States is
a man of God. We hope that the american people will appoint for their chief
captain some one that has the spirit of revelation and also prophecy line the
Nephites used to do. (3 Nephi 3:19)
Ruth Schreyer, Switzerland | 5:25 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Me and my family are deeply thankful, that a man like Romney lookes forward to
be the future president of the United States. It is the best for the United
States and for the whole world! Thank you.
Real Issues | 5:28 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Okay, when I was much younger, I always had the impression that Republicans were
pro life and Democrats were...well, whatever.
Now that I'm much older and wiser, I�m convinced the Republican "pro-life" movement is nothing but smoke and mirrors.
**How can anyone claim to be pro-life that destroys our environment?
**How can anyone claim to be pro-life that supports a war where people are dying by the hundreds?
**How can anyone claim to be pro-life when there are starving people in our own country?
Republicans are pro-wealth and that's the bottom line. The sad thing is that those at the top of the Republican food-chain are increasing their wealth at the expense of the environment and the struggling citizens of this country. What's worse is that they have convinced so many others that you can't have morals and be a Democrat at the same time. That's the biggest lie of them all. I'm personally opposed to abortion but at least no one is forcing people to have them. The dying National Guard soldiers have no choice. They never signed up to go to Iraq. They signed up to protect our own borders.
Now that I'm much older and wiser, I�m convinced the Republican "pro-life" movement is nothing but smoke and mirrors.
**How can anyone claim to be pro-life that destroys our environment?
**How can anyone claim to be pro-life that supports a war where people are dying by the hundreds?
**How can anyone claim to be pro-life when there are starving people in our own country?
Republicans are pro-wealth and that's the bottom line. The sad thing is that those at the top of the Republican food-chain are increasing their wealth at the expense of the environment and the struggling citizens of this country. What's worse is that they have convinced so many others that you can't have morals and be a Democrat at the same time. That's the biggest lie of them all. I'm personally opposed to abortion but at least no one is forcing people to have them. The dying National Guard soldiers have no choice. They never signed up to go to Iraq. They signed up to protect our own borders.
Anonymous | 6:26 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Romney is worse than Clinton ever dreamed of being. Including challenging Mormon
Doctrine.
Ore Voter | 6:53 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
To Utah Democrat:
You can go ahead and believe that taxes will only go up 2%, at least until they can convince you that they know how to best redistribute the income of Americans, then it will steadily increase to levels rivaled only by a recent Democrat Presidency (Carter) with taxes as high as 88% and inflation of 18-20% along with gas rationing and other wonderful benefits and enjoyment.
Where is the motivation of citizens to work hard to provide for their families when the government takes 50-75% of what you earn and the % only gets larger the more you make?
I do not understand your comments that the cost of living for you has increased so much, yet somehow the Bush administration is to blame. Did he tell the cows to produce less milk or chickens to lay less eggs? You give the president more credit for the market than he truely deserves.
Go ahead and elect a Democrat and watch in horror as this country dives to the lowest possible level of honesty, values, or responsibility.
You can go ahead and believe that taxes will only go up 2%, at least until they can convince you that they know how to best redistribute the income of Americans, then it will steadily increase to levels rivaled only by a recent Democrat Presidency (Carter) with taxes as high as 88% and inflation of 18-20% along with gas rationing and other wonderful benefits and enjoyment.
Where is the motivation of citizens to work hard to provide for their families when the government takes 50-75% of what you earn and the % only gets larger the more you make?
I do not understand your comments that the cost of living for you has increased so much, yet somehow the Bush administration is to blame. Did he tell the cows to produce less milk or chickens to lay less eggs? You give the president more credit for the market than he truely deserves.
Go ahead and elect a Democrat and watch in horror as this country dives to the lowest possible level of honesty, values, or responsibility.
E H L | 6:53 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
This has been interesting to read and I have smiled when I read such things as
accusing people of being judgemental, then going on to show their own
judgemental attitude. Unfortunately, our election process is not very
Christlike, and it tends to make us very angry and judgemental against our
opponents. Christians are not immune to this flaw in our system. However, we
won't change it through laws, we change it through changing our own
attitude, praying for our country and voting for people that match our values,
not belittling others for theirs.
For me, that means integrity, responsibility, compassion, leadership, reason, and faith that our country can fulfill its promise. The more I have honestly looked at the field of candidates--in both parties--there is only one that I feel I can say I feel comfortable voting for as a person who embraces each of those qualifications. I am increasingly disappointed in the rest.
To answer some of the questions asked in this discussion, since we are not allowed to give you URLs, I will just say that Mitt Romney's own web site will explain his stance on abortion and gay marriage under Issues/American Cultural & Values.
For me, that means integrity, responsibility, compassion, leadership, reason, and faith that our country can fulfill its promise. The more I have honestly looked at the field of candidates--in both parties--there is only one that I feel I can say I feel comfortable voting for as a person who embraces each of those qualifications. I am increasingly disappointed in the rest.
To answer some of the questions asked in this discussion, since we are not allowed to give you URLs, I will just say that Mitt Romney's own web site will explain his stance on abortion and gay marriage under Issues/American Cultural & Values.
Mary, Arizona | 6:57 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Whose idea was it to even have a board like this? In my opinion, it just opens
up an opportunity for people to take nips at our faith or sound a bit "too
too" in support of Bro. Romney. On the other hand, perhaps his stands on
abortion and gay rights has been made more clear for some of us.
It just always hurts to read hateful, negative comments against any of our brothers and sisters.
I support Bro. Romney because he speaks from his heart and has a proven positive record where it's needed. Go Mitt!!!
It just always hurts to read hateful, negative comments against any of our brothers and sisters.
I support Bro. Romney because he speaks from his heart and has a proven positive record where it's needed. Go Mitt!!!
Carol | 7:05 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Mitt Romney's impressive resume, years of successful public and private
service, model family and presidential qualities make him an excellent choice
for president!
He will improve our nation's image abroad, lift us economically, and secure our borders!
Mitt Romney 2008-2016!
He will improve our nation's image abroad, lift us economically, and secure our borders!
Mitt Romney 2008-2016!
Ore Voter | 7:15 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
To Real Issues:
There are many who do not buy into Al Gore's "fantasy" called Global warming. That said I am not convinced that humans have as much impact on the environment as his organization would have us believe. Back in the early 1800's when nearly all the crops failed and there was snow in July in many states, was that caused by humans? There is more beyond control of humans that has a much GREATER environmental impact.
Yes we should be mindful of our impact, but I do NOT want the government controlling me and forcing me to do what they think is going to save the environment. Since when has then government actually acted out of the citizens, or envirnment's, best interest.
The war is not Americans killing Iraqis, it would still happen even if we were not there because fear give the illusion of power and many cannot avoid the temptation.
Perhaps America would be better and there would be less suffering if we gave everything to the government and let them take care of us. Then NOBODY would starve or be harmed in this great land. More good comes from generous citizens than government, PERIOD!!
There are many who do not buy into Al Gore's "fantasy" called Global warming. That said I am not convinced that humans have as much impact on the environment as his organization would have us believe. Back in the early 1800's when nearly all the crops failed and there was snow in July in many states, was that caused by humans? There is more beyond control of humans that has a much GREATER environmental impact.
Yes we should be mindful of our impact, but I do NOT want the government controlling me and forcing me to do what they think is going to save the environment. Since when has then government actually acted out of the citizens, or envirnment's, best interest.
The war is not Americans killing Iraqis, it would still happen even if we were not there because fear give the illusion of power and many cannot avoid the temptation.
Perhaps America would be better and there would be less suffering if we gave everything to the government and let them take care of us. Then NOBODY would starve or be harmed in this great land. More good comes from generous citizens than government, PERIOD!!
JAMES STOWE | 7:15 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
IF THAT STATEMENT IS TRUE, I HOPE IT WON'T BE FOR LONG.
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT WILL BE FOR ME IF MITT DOES NOT WIN!
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT WILL BE FOR ME IF MITT DOES NOT WIN!
Mommio | 7:20 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
I watched Romney run for Mass Governor, and as governor. He supported gay
rights such as hospital visitation, insurance rights, etc. Those were all on
the table when he ran, but not gay marriage. When Gay Marriage became an issue,
he came out strongly against it, and fought it valiantly against it in Mass. He
didn't repeal his earlier support for hospital visitation, etc, but did not
extend his support to marriage. He did not change his position, but neither did
he expand it. He has always supported marriage as being between one man and one
woman, that we can see from our perch here in New Hampshire.
I believe him when he said he was wrong to support a personal view that abortion was wrong, and a policy that kept it legal. When a candidate for governor, that bothered me. He promised not to change the law. He kept that promise by vetoeing bills that would have advanced the pro-choice agenda and removed parental notification, for example. He did not change the law, neither did he allow it to degrade further. Mass is a very pro-choice state, so that is really saying something! Hope this helps.
I believe him when he said he was wrong to support a personal view that abortion was wrong, and a policy that kept it legal. When a candidate for governor, that bothered me. He promised not to change the law. He kept that promise by vetoeing bills that would have advanced the pro-choice agenda and removed parental notification, for example. He did not change the law, neither did he allow it to degrade further. Mass is a very pro-choice state, so that is really saying something! Hope this helps.
Ore Voter | 7:23 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Those who believe that God told us not to judge misunderstands the scriptures.
We must judge everything, else how could we make a decision on any matter that
comes before us. The directive is to not condem with our judgment since that is
left to Jesus.
Mitt has shown many better qualities that a president should have. Unfortunately many others have not. Another way of stating it is: There are no perfect candidates, only imperfect ones that we must choose from. The values Mitt has and lives, although he still has faults, is better than the other Republicans and Democrats, that is why I will support him. Although I am not sure how much good it will do in liberal Oregon.
Mitt has shown many better qualities that a president should have. Unfortunately many others have not. Another way of stating it is: There are no perfect candidates, only imperfect ones that we must choose from. The values Mitt has and lives, although he still has faults, is better than the other Republicans and Democrats, that is why I will support him. Although I am not sure how much good it will do in liberal Oregon.
Granny T. | 7:39 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Some of the Evangelicals are afraid of the people that belong to The Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. They have been taught from the time that they
were little to fear them as people and to disregard their church as a cult.
Somehow I don�t think Mitt Romney will change the teachings
or fear they have had and do have now.
As to the question of Mitt Romney, I agree with Pwasi. "Freedom of Choice" and "Agency" are an important part of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. As we make choices for good, we grow closer to Christ, are happier as a consequence. "Choice", however, has taken on a very different meaning in the political scheme--to promote taking sacred, innocent, unborn life in an attempt to avoid the consequences of poor choices or to use them in scientific experiments. When "Pro-choice" promoted legislation that went against Governor Romney's conscience, he stood against it, and became Pro-life.
As to the question of Mitt Romney, I agree with Pwasi. "Freedom of Choice" and "Agency" are an important part of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. As we make choices for good, we grow closer to Christ, are happier as a consequence. "Choice", however, has taken on a very different meaning in the political scheme--to promote taking sacred, innocent, unborn life in an attempt to avoid the consequences of poor choices or to use them in scientific experiments. When "Pro-choice" promoted legislation that went against Governor Romney's conscience, he stood against it, and became Pro-life.
CC | 7:49 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Thank you to all those commenting on Mitt's abortion/gay rights in MA.
They each helped me understand the comments on the "flip-flopping" the
media refers to frequently. In a liberal state such as MA, perhaps it's
fair to say he held back advancement of the liberal push as best as one could
thus protecting the life of the unborn and trying to maintain marriage (between
male/female) as much as it was possible in his role as govenor.
I agree that NO candidate Rep or Dem is perfect and it is our responsibility to vote for the one we feel has the best interests of family, freedom, integrity, and financial stability to lead this country. Mitt has an excellent record in the private, public and government sectors. I would never vote for any person strictly because he/she was Rep or Dem OR just because he/she is LDS. I am appreciative of the LDS's leaders view to NOT persuade us how to vote unlike other Christian denominations.
We need to be involved in the political process BUT we need NOT be hateful, vicious or angry. How unChristianlike.....
I agree that NO candidate Rep or Dem is perfect and it is our responsibility to vote for the one we feel has the best interests of family, freedom, integrity, and financial stability to lead this country. Mitt has an excellent record in the private, public and government sectors. I would never vote for any person strictly because he/she was Rep or Dem OR just because he/she is LDS. I am appreciative of the LDS's leaders view to NOT persuade us how to vote unlike other Christian denominations.
We need to be involved in the political process BUT we need NOT be hateful, vicious or angry. How unChristianlike.....
Whatever! | 7:50 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Nitpick each candidate. Parse every nuance. Wait until your favorite has been
"swiftboated". What we will have left is someone whose reputation has
been totally savaged. We will continue to live in a country where Dims hate
Repukes and Repukes hate Dims. Our government will continue to be for sale to
the highest bidder. Clinton was/is immoral. Bush has/has not polarized the
entire country.
Heaven Help Us All!
Heaven Help Us All!
Ron in OC | 8:36 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
I'll show you all just how simple it is. I am white, Mormon, 59 year old
male. Romney is white, Mormon and 60 year old male. What does politics or
issues or experience have to do with any of this?
Jac Colorado | 8:43 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Have read all of the above and all I can say at this point is I will vote for
Mitt Rommey.
///To Real Issues | 9:11 p.m. Dec. 31, 2007
Dear Real, you opine that you are much older and wiser--well, maybe you are just
older. You are playing the ole class-war card as Democrats usually do. I
became a Republican at 18 years of age (62 years ago) and have voted in every
general election since then. My question to Real is--when as a life-long
Republican am I going to acquire and worship wealth? I'm pretty danged
poor. How could I have been so deceived all of these years. No, Real, my
allegiance to the Republican Party is based on philosophy. The philosophical
differences between the two parties have never been more pronounced than they
are at the present time.
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