Published: Saturday, Dec. 15 2007 12:37 a.m. MST
Good for Mr. Jones. I would much rather do business that a company that leaves
personal religious beliefs at home rather than parading them in front of the
world.It was really the only decision a prudent business person
Ok Jeff (guy quoted in article as opposed to the decision) let's by all means
get Christ back into Christmas and while were at it put Muhammed back into Eid
(this time of year as well) and Moses back in Hannukah (Jewish holiday this time
of year) and some pagan deities back into Winter Solstice (also this time of
year) ... bet you'd like that eh Jeffro?
Mithra, and several other ancient gods', birthdays are December 25th, not
Jesus'.The Bible alludes to the fact that Jesus was not born in December.
Therefore, not only does Christ not belong "back" in Christmas, he never really
belonged there in the first place. Either that or Christmas does not belong on
December 25th. The church "hijacked" the December 25th date from pagan religions
instead of creating their own "holiday". HOWEVER, Texas Gas is a privately owned
(as opposed to government owned) company. The decision on whether or not to
display religious symbols on their property lies with them. It is an internal
matter. Legally, they are free to display them. I, however, applaud their
decision not to honor a myth.
This may seem very contradictory. I feel as an atheist that if a person wants
to or doesn't want to place a religious symbol up is up to them. I personally
decorate for the Winter Solstice and all of my decorations are purely secular.
I don't find it offensive if someone says Merry Christmas or the like to me.
Where I work we sold Christmas trees this year. I am glad that the company
didn't decided to call them Holiday trees. Again let me reiterate that I am an
atheist and find nothing wrong with a company, private person displaying
religious symbols. As for placing them in governmental offices or land that is
a different story that I won't go into. I for one will be celebrating the
Winter Solstice with my family and loved ones this year and hope that all who
are religious or not have a safe Solstice, Christmas, Eid, Hanukkah, what ever
holiday one observes.Bruce
"Leave the matter of religion to the family altar, the church, and the private
school, supported entirely by private contributions."Ulysses S.
Frankly, I've never heard of a "yule cross". Supposedly, Christmas marks
Christ's birth, yet the cross is a symbol of his death. Seems contradictory to
me. Are you celebrating his birth or commemorating his death? Either way,
Christmas trees and wreaths and other such decorations are symbols of the
secular aspect of the season due to their pagan roots. As such, I as an ahteist,
have no problem with them. Similarly, I have no problem with the term
"Christmas", since it has become a generalized term for the season in the same
way "Kleenex" is a generalized term for tissues or "Xerox" for photocopiers of
any brand. An example of this is "Christmas tree" which combines elements of
both the sacred aspect (the word Christmas denoting Christ) and the secular (a
pagan tree). Christmas despite it's name, has more pagan aspects than secular,
and owes it's popularity to commercialism anyway. Wasn't that long ago Chrstians
tried to ban Christmas anyway, now they want to monopolize it. Another example
of christian hypocrisy.
I think its great! If you want to practice a religion fine do it at home on
your own time. As an Atheist I would be upset to work there where someone else
is displaying a symbol that has nothing to do with the work I do and would
indicate my support of religion and a specific relgion at that. Religion is a
private matter, don't force it on others.
I work and live in the "Bible Belt" and see nothing wrong with people displaying
religious things. Where I work we have many people put up religious sayings
holiday cards, and letters of thank you from churches in the area for donations
that we make. I am an atheist as well and don't feel the least bit offended.
If it is a public building like a court house, city hall or any sort of
government establishment then no I don't think that religious things should be
displayed. Don't get me wrong I would ultimately like to see people come to the
truth and realize that there is no god or higher power. But I also realize that
some people need to have something to believe in to get through life and be
happy. I find that I am happier now that I have come out as an atheist.
Well done, Texas Gas! Highly commendable behavior to accept all people of al
beliefs into your domain.
Good job. Religion should always be kept private, no matter what the religion
is. Mainstream religious beliefs do not make them better than any other belief
system. I congratulate the company for taking the initative for maybe they will
set an example for other businesses and people alike.
I am very glad to see that america is beginning to free themselves from
religion.The time of religion is over. There is no need to delude
ourselves with lies anymore. As a Canadian I am glad to see that our southern
brethren are also embracing freedom from religion.(Christmas is a
pagan celebration, by the way, to all those Christians who thought it was
theirs.)I am a Canadian. My philosophy is of Humanism,
Transhumanism, and Atheism. I am a left-wing libertarian. I support a peaceful,
united humanity free from religion and racism, on a planet with a clean
environment, and if all the people of the world were to unite follow this idea,
then perhaps we could end such a great deal of suffering.Vote for
the Green Party!
Very glad to know this CEO was kind enough not to put up a cross, I hate
christmas for that very reason. For one month religon is forced on us and we are
suposed to like it.
I am disappoint actually, I don't think that religion in America is a bad thing.
It teaches good morals and gives people reason. I am an atheist for no other
reason than the fact that I don't believe in a diety. I don't feel that I have
the right to tell others how to believe or complain about some cross somewhere.
And Christmas was born from Christianity Henry, no one is forcing religion on
you. You are not a target. They are just celebrating what they believe.
Believe what you want to believe and allow others to do the same. Christianity
is not destroying America, the government is. I am with Bruce on this topic.
I find it offensive to have someone's religious beliefs shoved in my face. Why
is it allright to put huge crosses up, some right in my walking path when I
can't put a "garage sale" sign up without a city permit? Good for Mr. Jones. And
another thing,I am all for religious institutions paying their fair share of
taxes like the rest of us do. These houses of religion should be self
I don't see anyone hanging a big atheist symbol up anywhere. However, it's not
illegal. We have the same rights they do.
Texas Gas is taking a step in the right direction. Religion is a personal
activity, and has no place being pushed in business. If TG employees want to put
little crosses or miniature trees in their cubicles and offices, that's great,
and they should be allowed to do that. I agree that the presentation of business
should be neutral. After all, it's not Texas Christian Gas, just Texas Gas. So,
way to go Texas Gas! Glad to see that somebody out there in the business world
is taking a respectful stance towards the rights of all our citizens! And by the
way, it's not a yule cross, it's a Christian cross. Yule is celebrated with
evergreen trees and wreaths :)
Hi guys. I am a christian, and want to say thank you to Chase and Bruce.
Although Texas gas has the right to do so. I don't think it is pushing
religious beleifs on anybody. All it's saying is that that's what they believe
and nothing more.
First of all, they have every right to put up a cross, because it is a private
company. Secondly, I think people are going overboard with this new politically
correct world a few on the left want us to live in. Does somebody wishing you a
Merry Christmas or Happy Hannukuh really offend you atheists. All you have to
do is kindly wish us a happy solstice in turn, and everybody is happy. Religion
really is the greatest thing that happened to this world. It brings out the
best qualities of humanity in those who follow it (except of course for a small
number of extremists). I truly believe they should keep the sign. If
nothing else, for tradition's sake; it has been up four generations. To
all those atheists who think they are under attack in America, you are wrong.
The only thing being hijacked is Christianity, morality, and all races of
religion, until we are left with a society devoid of peace, love, justice,
compassion, charity, humility and grace. May Jesus bless EVERYONE this
CHRISTmas season and bring all our atheists brothers and sisters who have gone
astray back into our Christian family so we may celebrate together.
Christians have strayed so far from the teachings of Jesus Christ that I don't
see how they can really call themselves Christians. Their only connection to
Christ is that they believe in him. They preach love thy neighbor, but
will cut his throat if he openly denies their beliefs. We don't need crosses to
remind the non-believers of this fact.
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