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Clemens, Bonds, Tejada named in Mitchell Report
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Richard | 10:16 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
why are names being released before the official report is released? Will their
be any RedSox named in the report by Mitchell who is a Redsox official. It does
look like a hugh problem for major league baseball. Say it ain't so Joe
(Roger & Andy).
Dane | 10:19 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Athletes in EVERY sport in the
world cheat. This isn't new, and it's not ever going to stop. There
even evidence of cheating in the "honorable" sport of Sumo wrestling.
Richard | 10:40 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Why are names being released before the official report actually comes out? I
wonder if any Redsox names will be released, with Mitchell being a Redsox
official. It looks like major league baseball has a major problem. Say it
ain't so Joe (Roger & Andy).
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Outsider | 10:55 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Wow...America's game? How disgraceful. Its no wonder soccer is taking
over. True athletes in the worlds game.
seamhead | 11:19 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
The reason they have Clemens and Pettite's names is because it's not a
legal matter, therefore anyone who testified can talk to the media.
I think this will be a huge blow to baseball. They have let it slip by for so long, without any punishment. At least the NFL suspends first time offenders a quarter of the season. That is what baseball needs to do. If a player is found dirty, thr first offense should be a 40 game suspension, or 1 quarter of the season, without pay. This 15 game crap does nothing.
I think this will be a huge blow to baseball. They have let it slip by for so long, without any punishment. At least the NFL suspends first time offenders a quarter of the season. That is what baseball needs to do. If a player is found dirty, thr first offense should be a 40 game suspension, or 1 quarter of the season, without pay. This 15 game crap does nothing.
Reality | 12:14 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Steroids have crept all the way down to the high school level and continue to
stain athletic competition. The bottom line is if your peers are doing it then
either you do it or they beat you out and you get cut. You can't compete
with a guy or girl on steroids. That is the stark reality that drives this
machine. Athletics are BIG business and BIG money so people will do what ever it
takes to get a piece of the pie. You can make the decision to be steroid free
but when your position in on the line what are you going to do? Are you going to
turn away from millions of dollars just to be clean? Either the sports leagues
enforce this stickly across the board and have a zero tolerance policy or they
just turn their heads as they have been doing for the past 20 years. The owner
of the Cardinals sure liked all the big sell outs at Bush stadium when McGuire
was belting out 70 home runs. The owners have to change too.
DCJ | 12:26 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Bloomberg News reports that Wally Joyner is on the list.
JeffGold to outsider | 12:36 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Football and Basketball have been more popular here than baseball. Baseball
being "America's passtime" is a tired old fashioned term. Soccer
is a wonderful sport but it has its black eye regarding corruption of referees
(Italy for example). More scoring in international matches would help it to be
more popular here in the US.
Joseph | 1:04 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
How about a zero-tolerance policy?
Neal Kramer | 1:28 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Let's remember that during the steroids era there were still outstanding
baseball players, some of the greatest of all time.
I don't know whether the names of Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez, or Manny Ramirez will surface, but it would be a shame to let their accomplishments be overshadowed by the cheaters.
Rodriguez may very break all the tainted home run records. Next year Maddux should surpass Clemens' career victory total, having achieved a lower career ERA.
It has been a great pleasure to watch these gifted athletes.
I hope we don't forget how they kept the national pastime clean while others tarnished the game.
I don't know whether the names of Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez, or Manny Ramirez will surface, but it would be a shame to let their accomplishments be overshadowed by the cheaters.
Rodriguez may very break all the tainted home run records. Next year Maddux should surpass Clemens' career victory total, having achieved a lower career ERA.
It has been a great pleasure to watch these gifted athletes.
I hope we don't forget how they kept the national pastime clean while others tarnished the game.
To: Jeff Gold | 1:32 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
More Scoring you say? I disagree...in Basketball for example, teams that only
play offense (like the NBA allstars, or the US Olympic team) ruin the flow to
the game, and no (or less) defense turns into a "showboat" of a single
players abilities.
The same is true in the beautiful game of soccer. All of these cries for "more goals", or "change the offsides rule", would ruin the beauty and flow of the game.
True, Italian referees and coaches have been corrupt and guilty of match-fixing, but so is Bill Belichick of the NFL, or Tim Donaghy of the NBA, and we are talking about athletes of the game, not officials or coaches. Soccer breeds true athletes, and true athleticism, and WILL challenge the big 4 sports in the US.
The same is true in the beautiful game of soccer. All of these cries for "more goals", or "change the offsides rule", would ruin the beauty and flow of the game.
True, Italian referees and coaches have been corrupt and guilty of match-fixing, but so is Bill Belichick of the NFL, or Tim Donaghy of the NBA, and we are talking about athletes of the game, not officials or coaches. Soccer breeds true athletes, and true athleticism, and WILL challenge the big 4 sports in the US.
CougarKeith (utahkeith) | 1:46 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
If Baseball actually had a Non-Partisan Commissioner this problem would have
gone away a long time ago! Bud Seileg is as guilty as the dealers who sold it to
the players, he is the "Enabler" here! Baseball got cleaned up after
the Black Sox in 1919 with a Commissioner who wasn't an Owner, wasn't
a Player, and had only the best interest of BASEBALL in mind. Bud wants the
Money as he is an owner and if a few guys "Shoot Up" to hit a few more
homers and beef up and throw more stike outs, what is it to him? MORE MONEY in
his pocket! BASEBALL IS TARNISHED AGAIN and AGAIN by greed and desire. That is
why I only pay attention to baseball during the playoffs, otherwise I don't
care. I would rather catch a high school game or little league game. The Little
League World Series on ESPN and ESPN 2 is the Best and Purest Baseball You will
EVER FIND BAR NONE!!! Let these Bums kill themselves young for better stats and
more money for the owners. They are all LOSERS!
Seamhead | 2:02 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
That would be the ideal Joseph, but in the world we live in, everyone gets
chances. Plus, the players union would never allow it. I don't even think
they'll allow half of the recommendations. That is the problem. The
owners will need to step up and say that they want a clean game, and anyone
unwilling to play clean won't play. However, the Red Sox or Yankees will
sign the players, making the others owners attempt futile.
It is true | 2:21 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Soccer players are more athletic than baseball, football, and basketball
players.
ha ha | 2:24 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
wally joyner, wallyworld, byu alum. say it ain't so. better sports through
chemistry university
Bill | 2:26 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Anyone notice that BYU's Wally Joyner was on the list as using steroids
three times and said he never used again?
Who cares? | 2:43 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Who cares anymore? Bonds is the scapegoat for the whole deal, Selig is an idiot
for letting it go that far and should be fired as commissioner. The whole deal
is a 'he-said-she-said' affair and does not prove anything.
And after all, steroids does not help your hand-eye-coordination. I am not saying to let it go but find ways to prevent it instead of blaming everybody.
And after all, steroids does not help your hand-eye-coordination. I am not saying to let it go but find ways to prevent it instead of blaming everybody.
Golf | 2:51 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Golf is the only real sport where the athletes don't dope, you penalize
yourself for hitting it out of bounds etc. I hope Bonds and the rest of these
guys are kicked out of baseball forever! Can you say asterisk?**************
RE:OUTSIDER | 3:00 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
How naive to think that soccer players are not taking some form of performance
enhancing drugs.
A fan | 3:09 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
To outsider: "true" athletes? In this day and age, you can't
tell me that any sport, even your beloved soccer, is completely clean of
performance enhancing drugs. Also, does your "true" athleticism
include the fact that many soccer players are great actors. I love that many
times you see players "writhing in pain", but as soon as the opposing
player gets a yellow or red card, he gets up and acts like nothing happened.
In general, I don't understand why the steroid issue sticks to baseball, but slides off the backs of football where more players have died in relationship to steroid use than any other sport.
In general, I don't understand why the steroid issue sticks to baseball, but slides off the backs of football where more players have died in relationship to steroid use than any other sport.
Trent | 3:40 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Wally Joyner admitted a few years back he obtained some in pill form put it in
his mouth and the spit it out. That shows you how tempting it is and how common
it is in baseball.
to it is true | 3:41 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
checkout espn's list on top 10 skilled sports as rated by drs. &
athletes;
Boxing
Ice Hockey
Football
Basketball
Wrestling
Martial Arts
Tennis
Gymnastics
Baseball/Softball
Soccer
Boxing
Ice Hockey
Football
Basketball
Wrestling
Martial Arts
Tennis
Gymnastics
Baseball/Softball
Soccer
So? | 3:58 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Where was Big Mac's name? I mean come on with all the hoopla of the
congressional hearing then his name doesn't even appear on this list. But
honestly its just a list it proves nothing. Unfortunately we all know that most
if not all of them on the list did in fact use drugs.
Wally? | 4:01 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Did I miss his name? I was scouring for it but I couldn't find it. Oh wait.
Someone just wants to drag his good name through the mud.
The bat Boy? | 4:12 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
The photo that goes with the story says the Bat Boy might get 25 years for
distribution? ... what? will the million dollar babies get off with a few game
suspensions?
riddlemetimbers | 4:47 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Clemens, not a surprise. anyone could see he was the same as bonds. no way
numbers could be that high at that age. if it walks like a duck, talks like a
duck, its probably a duck. whoever is found guilty should be punished severely.
players | 5:12 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
All the players mentioned in Mitchell report
Chad Allen
Rick Ankiel
David Bell
Mike Bell
Marvin Benard
Gary Bennett Jr.
Larry Bigbie
Barry Bonds
Kevin Brown
Paul Byrd
Jose Canseco
Mark Carreon
Jason Christiansen
Howie Clark
Roger Clemens
Jack Cust
Chris Donnels
Brendan Donnelly
Lenny Dykstra
Bobby Estalella
Matt Franco
Ryan Franklin
Eric Gagne
Jason Giambi
Jeremy Giambi
Jay Gibbons
Troy Glaus
Jason Grimsley
Jose Guillen
Jerry Hairston Jr.
Matt Herges
Phil Hiatt
Glenallen Hill
Darren Holmes
Todd Hundley
David Justice
Chuck Knoblauch
Tim Laker
Mike Lansing
Paul Lo Duca
Nook Logan
Josias Manzanillo
Gary Matthews Jr.
Cody McKay
Kent Mercker
Bart Miadich
Hal Morris
Daniel Naulty
Denny Neagle
Jim Parque
Andy Pettitte
Adam Piatt
Todd Pratt
Stephen Randolph
Adam Riggs
Brian Roberts
John Rocker
F.P. Santangelo
Benito Santiago
David Segui
Scott Schoeneweis
Gary Sheffield
Mike Stanton
Miguel Tejada
Mo Vaughn
Ron Villone
Fernando Vina
Rondell White
Jeff Williams
Todd Williams
Ismael Valdez
Randy Velarde
Matt Williams
Steve Woodard
Kevin Young
Gregg Zaun
Chad Allen
Rick Ankiel
David Bell
Mike Bell
Marvin Benard
Gary Bennett Jr.
Larry Bigbie
Barry Bonds
Kevin Brown
Paul Byrd
Jose Canseco
Mark Carreon
Jason Christiansen
Howie Clark
Roger Clemens
Jack Cust
Chris Donnels
Brendan Donnelly
Lenny Dykstra
Bobby Estalella
Matt Franco
Ryan Franklin
Eric Gagne
Jason Giambi
Jeremy Giambi
Jay Gibbons
Troy Glaus
Jason Grimsley
Jose Guillen
Jerry Hairston Jr.
Matt Herges
Phil Hiatt
Glenallen Hill
Darren Holmes
Todd Hundley
David Justice
Chuck Knoblauch
Tim Laker
Mike Lansing
Paul Lo Duca
Nook Logan
Josias Manzanillo
Gary Matthews Jr.
Cody McKay
Kent Mercker
Bart Miadich
Hal Morris
Daniel Naulty
Denny Neagle
Jim Parque
Andy Pettitte
Adam Piatt
Todd Pratt
Stephen Randolph
Adam Riggs
Brian Roberts
John Rocker
F.P. Santangelo
Benito Santiago
David Segui
Scott Schoeneweis
Gary Sheffield
Mike Stanton
Miguel Tejada
Mo Vaughn
Ron Villone
Fernando Vina
Rondell White
Jeff Williams
Todd Williams
Ismael Valdez
Randy Velarde
Matt Williams
Steve Woodard
Kevin Young
Gregg Zaun
The real question.. | 5:23 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
When I read about kids doing drugs and messing up right under the parents noses,
I always ask "Where are the parents?". While businesses can't be
expected to know what their employees are doing I find it hard to believe the
organizations didn't know. My guess is not one club will be penalized or
put under scrutiny, only the players. Not surprising so many Yankees are named.
Mitchell is on the board of directors for the Red Sox. Haven't seen the
list. Any recent Red Sox players on it? Bottom line....who cares? This will all
blow away.
Crushed | 5:27 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Honestly, this is a sad day for baseball and it's fans. I blame the union.
They should have stepped up and firmly supported a drug policy.
andrew | 5:41 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
of all the history of baseball only 22 players have ever been suspended for
using steroids. all of them relatively little fish accept rafiel palmiero.
baseball is at a crossroads and the players union is part of the problem. the
owners need to draw a hard line in the sand no matter the cost. the result will
be a cleaner game we all can watch with pride. otherwise the game will continue
to wither and die from the cancer that the players and its unioin has allowed to
grow.
Anonymous | 5:55 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Typical conservative thinking: blame the union. They owners didn't profit
by having players with enhanced performance? Fans don't want their teams to
win? How much money is bet on sports?
to outsider | 6:27 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
yes, headbutting officials is quite honorable
ha | 6:30 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
of all the names, John Rocker seems like he suffered the most adverse effects,
ha.
To Anon | 9:13 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
I blame the union and I'm a member of a union. How can that be? Gosh, maybe
because even though I'm union I can make decisions for myself. The union of
MLB, as well as the owners, have let this issue slide for too long. Owners at
fault? sure. Players and those players that continued to support this activity
at fault? You betcha. The union should never have fought the issue if they
really supported their own members. They are there to protect their members and
baseball, and in this instance, they failed.
honesty | 9:49 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Let's be honest...this will have little effect on anything. People will
still go to the games just as much as they have been. Cheaters are always ahead
of the game. Baseball (and every other sport)will strengthen testing measures to
catch up with where things are today and the cheaters will find a new way to
beat the system and it will continue on and on and on. Just like in '94
when everybody said they would stop going to ball games because of the strike,
people will say they are done with baseball because of steroids, but they
aren't. The sheep will keep coming, because for every Bonds or McGwire
there is a Tony Gwynn or Cal Ripken. The numbers will lose value, but the game
won't. Long live the great game of baseball.
Jordan Davis | 12:06 a.m. Dec. 14, 2007
this act proves nothing. sure barry bonds will always be on the list until he
dies. they have no exact proof he took steroids to improve. but Clemens, thats a
different story. they have proof there. Baseball is a Harder sport to play,
anybody can kick a ball and run around. try hitting a ball, running, throwing
(making a ball curve), catching, mechanics, stealing, and knowing what to do in
different situations(takes alot more doesn't it). all these things have to
do with reflex's hand eye coordination, strength, speed, and hard
work/practice. even if the soccer players took steroids it not like it will
improve their game unlike baseball. soccer takes no skill to play so that is why
soccer has no steroid usage. baseball is hard so it takes more skill thus making
people want to get better because it is more competitive and harder.
To Jordan Davis: | 10:06 a.m. Dec. 14, 2007
...your mom says its time to come home now...you don't want to be late to
your first day of 7th grade.
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