Ex-Cougars Walker and Chow listed as UCLA candidates
Hold on there, funny, I didn't know that ESPN was owned by Utahns? Or Cougar
fans for that matter. I watched a story on ESPN about UCLA looking at hiring
coach Mendenhall. Perhaps YOU need to come out of the "UTah" bubble and see
just how great a place we have here.
Did you know that Jan Jorgensen's dad, Jeff played for U.C.L.A.? He had hated
BYU with all his might untill... JAN JORGENSEN arrived! Dick, this
might be interesting. I once e-mailed you about it but forgot to give you his
number on time! E-mail me and I will try to give you the number in time this
time! Christian Bryner
Thanks for the humor. It gave me a good laugh. BYU hasn't even been contacted by
UCLA. It's just another rumor that the Utah Faithful wish was true. UCLA won't
be bringin Bronco in. They have a large number of really good coaches to pick
from. THey have a lot of backing. It isn't even news in L.A.Now come on
everyone, look out of the UTah bubble and see what the rest of the world is
like. Until another undiscovered coach like Urban Meyer comes to town (which
isn't likely to happen again), neither team will be a BCS buster. They are both
good teams to watch. They both have great players, but neither team is a first
tier team. They are both second rate teams with second rate coaches.
Reading sports fans' comments is really a pleasant diversion. It is kind of like
watching Road Runner cartoons--people blowing each other up, dropping anvils on
each others heads while mugging for the cameras....
I wish the Utah papers wrote more stories about U of U football...In
fact, Bronco's offer isn't that great at all... Tooele High is in talks with
Whittingham right now.Utah fans need something to post about. Please
write more articles about their team.. they are little brother...I
mean... Don't Mormons believe that Jesus' school is brothers with satan's
Just in.... "no this just in" is a little sensitive about the age of Bronco's
recruits or the 1984 joke of a championship.
"utes rule" and "I agree" both graduated from the U!
If you start your comment off with "Just in"you're a farce
I agre with "utes rule" al ByU fans say is are school is better. so take that u
bYu fan peopel.
Just in..... Three 8th grade verbal commits to Bronco have changed their minds.
Watch the Jr. high school recruits start dropping off the Y's list of future
players. Ah... 6th grade phenom drops his verbal commit to byu to look at
further jr. high school teams.
all byu u fans all think is that we are the lords school so he will help us win
to day but that is not going to happen the lord is not a football fan so quite
praying for victorys every game day and by the way go utes beat navey
Backward logic:BYU beat my team and BYU won the conference:
therefore, I will tear down my own conference, rip on the team that beat me,
make fun of their coach, joke about their bowl, downplay all their
accomplishment, and then maybe I will feel better about my terrible team.I think its funny, if you had a real team you could fill up the time
with praise and compliments but obviously you don't!Bring on the
negative BYU comments, come on, I know they are comming...
Typical Ute fan day,Wake up, read an article on BYU, write a
negative comment on BYU, tell a joke about BYU, call a radio station and
complain about BYU...I guess that is what you do when you suck.
Utes,You guys are like bacteria appearing in places where nobody
wants you. Your team is terrible, .500 in conference the last three
years so now all you can do is bag and hate on BYU-just like the good old days!
I am a Ute fan, but my gut tells me Bronco will stay in Provo. I remember Coach
Edwards being courted by Stanford...and how all the Faithful in Utah county were
wringing their hands. The same thing happened in SLC with Jerry Pimm (USC) and
Rick Majerus(USC, Notre-Dame, ASU...) in b-ball. The only thing I would be
concerned about if I were Bronco is the boomerang effect of fanaticism.
National Championship in two years is very improbable. BCS very do-able if the
system survives in the next few years. The pendulum ALWAYS swings in the
opposite direction and expectations impart momentum to it in proportion. Late
90's to retirement with Lavell suffering through four and five loss seasons,
fans were saying the game has passed him by...and they rode Chow out town on a
rail. The pendulum would have swung on the Hill for Urban also (as it did for
McBride). The Hill (dual meaning here) is much less forgiving. It is
unfortunately all about the money. The fan base at the U is fair weather. I
offer postings in this forum throughout the season as evidence of that.
Kyle did initially make more than Bronco when they both started coaching at Utah
and BYU. However, Bronco's contract has been reworked since that time and it's
been estimated that his contract is comparable to Gary Patterson's at TCU which
is $972K per year. It would seem to make sense that BYU would see that Bronco
is paid near the top of the conference coaches as long as the Cougars keep
winning the conference. Kyle's a great coach- we like him! It's nice to have a
Cougar at the helm of the Ute ship!If Bronco were to go, I wonder if
BYU would pursue Andy Reid? I think Andy was the number one choice to replace
LaVell but things were going great with the Eagles at the time. Of course, I'm
not sure BYU is ready to shell out "Andy Reid type of $'s" for any football
coach.My personal hope is that both Bronco and Kyle stay with their
current programs for the next 20 plus years. I can get used to BYU winning
championships and Utah still being successful and placing second each year.
Both teams just need to get to better bowl games.
Nevada Coug: Are you trying to tell me BYU wouldn't be in the title game this
year if they were undefeated? Your crazy!! (with all due respect).
You make some good comments but you are wrong on one point. When Bronco was
hired, Chow could have had that job. But he made it clear he didn't want to
return to BYU so he was never considered. He was asked his opinion and they
moved on. Even now he wouldn't come back. Personally I hope Chow returns to
the college ranks and gets the UCLA job. He's another LDS/BYU alum I can
support, except when he's playing BYU. These developments, BYU alum doing well
elsewhere, only help BYU and further the influence of the program. UCLA, make a
good move and hire Chow (and leave Bronco where he is).
I'm afraid that Bronco might go. We can get someone like Chow to come in and
really help the program. Bronco is now making more money than Whit with his
recent raise. I also have to admit that the Ute 04 team would probably beat our
84 BYU team. The system was just different in 84. We should try and take the
high road and not always think that we are better than the Utes. We were lucky
to win this last game with some breaks we got and to think otherwise is blind
But I sure wouldn't mind seeing him scidaddle for Westwood!
Bronco Mendenhall would be stupid to even think about leaving BYU.
You can't buy everything in this world with money. lol.
Bronco would never go to UCLA. Thats why he wouldn't even comment or flatter
that idea. Its a waste of his time to give it any consideration. Bronco's
inspirational approach is too good of a fit with BYU. We can expect him around
for a long time. But I guess these things are fun to talk about. Ha.
Are the 49ers happy with their coach this year?Smith will outlast
him. Players always do.
If Whittingham is making more than Bronco, the Utes are getting the short end of
the stick.I get tired of BYU always getting the best of us.
Did anyone else see the 49ers coach say Alex Smith has been "disappointing?" I
wonder if they still would take him number one? It makes you ask if Tim Tebow
turns out the same way.
As for Bronco, I think he would be a fool to give up what he has at BYU. He's
where he can run a program his way. He loses that at UCLA. He gets paid
enough. Why pass up a good thing for a few more dollars? He'd probably lose a
lot of that in increased cost of living anyway.
BYU has zero chance to win a "national championship" next year. First, there is
no longer any such thing. Instead, they name a BCS champion, and try and imply
that it is a "national" champion. Second, no team outside the BCS will EVER get
selected for the "title" game, unless they go undefeated, play one of the top 10
toughest schedules in football, and everybody else has at least 2 losses. Since
it is impossible for any team outside the BCS to crack the top 10 in schedule
difficulty, no "title" game selection for BYU or anybody else.If
Utah couldn't make it to the title game a couple of years ago, no non-BCS team
can. The only team that had as much or more of a claim to challenge USC than
Utah was Auburn, and neither one was selected. It's all a farce.
I'm a big BYU fan, and I don't think Bronco will go to UClA for more money.
DJ: Oh how you are wrong with this being the biggest means of missionary work.
Ask President Hinckley what he thinks of that?
BYU has all the money they need to pay Bronco. A strong sports program at BYU
brings more attention to the university and the LDS church than any other medium
or missionary method. Forget the pass-along cards and TV ads....pay Bronco
whatever he wants!!
I love how you BYU fans have somehow turned this article about BYU, UCLA and
Bronco Mendenhall and the recent coaching vacancy into more of a Utah vs. BYU
rivalry in some aspects. Do you all have a false sense of security there in the
Provo bubble? Anyhow, I have read some pretty respectable posts by
Utah fans. But they get twisted and turned into a bash session. Didn't they
teach you at BYU to love one another and to turn the other cheek? Hmmmm, how
easily you forget, yet you wonder why nobody can stand you. Go figure. By the way who are Yoots and the Yewts?As far as Bronco goes, he
is a great coach and will be successful no matter where he goes. Good luck to
him. GO UTES!!!!!!!!!!
Bronco is not leaving. When he came to us, BYU has become a much better team.
coming into 2007 Bronco had to replace 1 QB 2 TE's 3 WR's 2 OL and the all time
leading rusher for BYU. lets see some other coach replace that much players and
become champions. If Bronco stays he can do so much more to BYU.
You byu fans are funny! one guy says that he would leave because of recruiting
for a lack of tv exposure. Another says byu has a better chance of winning a
national championship then UCLA. Another thinks he's staying because this is his
calling. FUNNY!!! and spelling ute yewt is that your parents hard earned
education money you wasted, byu must be proud to have you for a fan.
It never fails to amaze me that a BYU article can bring out so many BYU-hating
yewts and have them spew their venom in huge hissing fits. I just have to shake
my head and wonder how they treat their wives and kids?? Merry Christmas.
I just hope that he doesn't go to UCLA for more money! Ever notice that Jerry
Sloan + LaVell Edwards kindof look like Brother Mendenhall?? They both ALWAYS
frown. Google images it its true!
Take him , Take him ! I can't stand the hypocritical , self serving egotist.
Take him please !
Whittingham makes $672,000 a year and Mendenhall makes less than that because
Whittingham went with more money at the U of U.
How come the Utes started to talk big again. You will say anything to undermine
BYU, even after we won. I doubt Bronco would take the UCLA job anyway.
RE: RE: Bronco's here to stay - Amen to that man!
Hey Byu fans:I am sick that some of you seem to think that the byu
football coach is a calling from the heavens; that it is Bronco's calling in
life to restore byu football to national prominance. IT IS A JOB. NOTHING MORE
THAN THAT! HE HAS NO OBLIGATION TO STAY.I hope Mendenall gets
offered a huge contract elsewhere to prove to all of you that his loyalty is no
different that Petrino's was to the Atlanta Falcons.
right after you chastise others for mentioning money... you go ahead and do it
yourself? And then without citing any sources?here is a source for
Bronco, go to UCLA and we will transfer to UCLA with you. We like the honnor
code at UCLA better than the one in Provo.
First they say "quit livin' in the past." The Cougars won a national
championship in 1984 (the past) but the Utes can only remind us of a bowl
victory that took place three years ago - I believe that is "the past" also?? I
think "national championships" generally put a program on the "national map"
more than winning a BCS bowl game. But, if Utes beg to differ, then I'll try to
"play the game" in the way that they understand it - was BYU's march to the
"elite eight" more impressive than Utah's playing for the NCAA championship in
basketball?It's Bronco, and the other BYU sports that give the MWC
any credibility at all on a consistent basis. It's apparent by the following
the cougars have on a national basis? (How are those ticket sales going for the
Utah bowl game this year?)Not worried about the future of Ute
football? When you have no future (or present, as a matter of fact) then there
is nothing to worry about!! But... at least you can always go back to "livin'
in the past!"
Typical BYU comment. You can have Chow - we didn't want him anyway. Same with
all the recruits that go to other programs. "He wouldn't have played. . ." "He
doesn't fit our high moral standard. . ." "We didn't want him anyway. . ." Additionally, Cougar fans have an over-inflated estimation of the "Mormon
factor." Reality check - Mormons make up less than 2% of the US population and
not all Mormons care about BYU.
I'm sure Bronco is making near 900K at BYU. It's not about the money for
Bronco... he has said he still lives much the same way he did back in college.
I'd be surprised if he left BYU for 1.2 million.And to the person
that said he had the opportunity to make 10 times as much at UCLA - $9 million?
I don't think so. If that were true, they wouldn't be talking to Bronco... they
would go straight to Bill Belichick and he would leave the Patriots in the
middle of the night just like the Atlanta Falcon's coach did.Bronco
is a good coach... but he isn't a $9 million a year good coach - Nobody is!
LOL. I love it. It makes me laugh at those that think Bronco's success is due
to his "spiritual leadership." Bronco wants all the fans to think
that his players are just little angels. All the old lady byu fans must be
giddy when they here him talk. All you have to do is sit behind
byu's bench for a game to realize that its players aren't much different than
those at any other school. The only reason Bronco was given a
contract extension is because he wins games! It has nothing to do with his
"spritual leadership." Crowton would still be there had he won games. Byu is
no different than any place else in that winning is the bottom line.
To STOP MENTIONING MONEY! In all fairness, where did you read that Bronco makes
around a Million Dollars? The only report that I have read was from an internet
article from some site that I had never seen before that did not cite any
sources and seemed to lack credibility. If you can find some source, I would be
willing to believe you.That being said, I would have to think that
he makes less than Whitt because (as we have all established) Whitt was offered
more at Utah which is why he took the Utah job. NOT THAT I AM COMPLAINING.
Furthermore, those that would argue that the extension contained his raise: By
my calculations, Bronco's extension would have had to have more than doubled his
salary and considering when it was given, BYU had no reason to think that he was
looking for more money elsewhere, I HIGHLY doubt that BYU would have done that.
It just doesn't make sense.Any published reports citing credible
authority can prove me wrong, but I think Bronco makes about 5-600k and I am
happy about it.
To Family Situation:Thanks man ... I'm still laughing.
It's not always about money. Why does everyone think that. Being coach at a
great program will mean more for Coach Mendenhall than any stupid dollar and
cents amount that anyone will offer him. He is already paid well enough, most
coaches are compared to the average person. So for him to give away the
potential for making BYU a great program again for dead presidents on paper is
just stupid. I wish more people would realize there are far more valuable things
in this world than dollars and cents, and Bronco has already turned down several
other coaching jobs for that reason.
Bronco is a man of integrity, I see him sticking around BYU for a while. I don't
think he will Bale on us quite yet. Give him a couple more years, then if BYU
doesn't do something we won't be able to blame him. I think Bronco has the
integrity and the Faith to know that he is called here to re-build this program
into something special again, and he will bring us out of the depths of
obscurity from the Mountain West Hidden Television Network and into National
Prominence in perhaps the Big XII or Pac 10 or a New Conference. Relax Cougar
Fans, he isn't going anywhere for another year or three.
I agree that the Big 10 is overrated. However, it still is head and shoulders
above the MWC. I know you want byu-provo's MWC championships to mean something
but until you do something on a National level no one cares about the MWC
titles.Let's not knock Utah. It is the only one that has put the
MWC on the national map in any sport because when it wins the conference it does
something on a national scale to prove that it means something. In basketball
it has actually won NCAA tournament games and it is the only team in football to
get to a bowl game that brings some recognition.
YOU GUYS ARE KILLING ME! You make it sound like Bronco is doing charity work at
the food bank because he's a coach at BYU. In reality, he ALREADY MAKES around
a MILLION DOLLARS a year! While it's true that in his final seasons Lavell's
base salary hovered just above $125k, things have changed since then, and
Bronco's current salary is actually quite competitive. So stop saying things
like, "Oooooh!, UCLA might dangle a...drumroll, please...$1.2 million carrot!,"
while expecting us to tremble with fear at such an *apparently* impressive
number. Such comments only draw attention to your complete ignorance of the
Gene: Talk about living the past....why do you Cougar fans always talk about the
84' game. That is much further in the past than the 04' season is for the Utes.
Bottome line is the past is the past, it is what it is any person with any clue
knows that the way to look is to the future and to be honest with you I am not
all that worried about the future for my Utes. No excuses for this year, but
when any team loses 11 starters to injury and has to force kids out of red
shirts to fill in the gaps and you still finish 8-4 with a near upset of BYU,
well I can live with that. When the Utes are healthy watch out. Let the past be
that...the past and lets move on. Don't get so riled up man! It's
all a game anyways.
"don't be surprised" - I have news for you. $1.2 million is nowhere near double
what Bronco makes now. He's already at a million. So, he might get a very
small raise at UCLA. But then, his cost of living doubles and he has to live in
the armpit of America.Anyway, I really doubt UCLA is considering
him. I doubt he is considering UCLA.
look around motivated! How many others have left your neighborhood???
Anyone who has been at any of the firesides before each game knows that the
football program's success ON the field is a direct result of the improvements &
inspiration that Bronco has brought about OFF the field. What Bronco is doing
here can only be done at BYU. If he went to a public (read: state-owned &
-operated) university & tried to impose the Honor Code, fans would be screaming
to have him fired.He's an excellent coach, but what's making the
difference is his spiritual leadership, & that just won't fly at UCLA. Trust
me, I grew up there.Bronco's here to stay.
I think it's funny how people have mentioned Bronco leaving to improve his
"family situation." You're probably right, since he's only bringing in about a
million a year, his poor children must be starving. I actually picked his
family for my company's annual Sub-For-Santa. I like what he's done with the
football program, so I figured I could spare a couple bucks to buy his sons some
Legos. The Mendenhall's probably don't even have health insurance; UCLA must be
offering a sweet 80/20 to woo him over.
LOL, I'm sure Bronco's aspirations are to get BYU back into the national spot
light. But in the current era of college football they will never play for or
win a national championship. It just won't happen.Thanks BCS!
Funny, Bronco gets mentioned and Ute fans start dropping Whit's name.Always comparing, but not in the same league.
Even if UCLA wants to talk with Bronco, I see it as CLASSLESS for them to bring
it up at this time. Of course the drama plays in UCLA's favor prior to the
upcoming bowl game!!!I can only say, the entire NCAA would be a much
better place if there were enough Bronco's to go around. Laying in
the grass, listening to the replays and the vist by Lavell ranks right up there
with the artistic display as when the Bear choked the bulldog before the
Mississippi State game.
No non-BCS team will ever win a "National Championship" under the current BCS
structure. BYU will never win a National Championship until there is a more
defined playoff system. I'm a big BYU fan but the reality is until BYU can
actually beat a top team, we won't be there. And even then, we'll need a
playoff system to have a real chance. And this whole thing that
Hawaii and Boise State can play on a national level is crazy talk. They might
be ok for a year or two but they will crumble if they had to play big name teams
year in and year out. There is clearly a different level of play at the top of
the WAC and the top of the SEC or PAC10. Period.
Hey utah fans, URBAN IS GONE, AND YOU WILL NEVER MAKE IT TO A BCS GAME WITHOUT
HIM!! I love how utah fans talk about beating nonconference foes like they're
experts. When BYU beats UCLA in Vegas Bronco will be 3-2 against the PAC-10 in
the last 2 years. Why don't you guys face the facts? Your wins against
Louisville and UCLA were nice, but they in no way make up for being shutout by
UNLV! Until you can dominate your own conference, don't try and lecture anyone
about being in the national spotlight. What's probably even worse for you after
Urban's departure is, Urban took any chance of winning another conference title
with him. utes welcome back to mediocrity. You just keep putting up those
3rd and 4th place finishes in conference and talking about 2004. Oh by the
way, Michigan was 6-5 entering the Holiday Bowl. Just because you don't have a
Ntional Championship doesn't mean you need to hate on ours.Anybody that
still thinks the BIG10 is all that, needs to get out of the 90s, and join the
rest of us in 2007. The Big10 hasn't been good in the since after 2002.
By saying "calling" I wasn't meaning a church-type calling, although I should
have guessed many of you would misinterpret it that way. I meant he looks upon
his BYU coaching job as a professional calling to bring back the glory days (and
then some) of BYU football. If you've paid attention to what he's been saying
for three years now, he considers this job a calling in the sense that he
considers it his duty to bring BYU back to national prominence.Sure,
being a member of the same church as his school plays into how he feels. And,
it's not just about money for Bronco. He really wants to be the facilitator in
BYU's return to another national championship. That's only out of the question
to those whose minds are closed.
UCLA would more than double Bronco's salary. Probably something on the order of
1.2 million a year. If another company offered to double your salary would you
just turn it down blindly? NOT. Don't be surprised IF BYU beats UCLA to see
Bronco in serious talks with UCLA.
"Come on Belgie!" - I wasn't talking about UNLV. If you knew anything about
college football, you would know that I was talking about BSU and Utah - both of
which got plenty of national media attention during their 15 minutes, and both
of which beat more than one BCS team.
There is a difference between Bronco Mendenhall and Urban Meyer. I can sum it
up in two words: CLASS and LOYALTY. Bronco isn't going anywhere. I could also
throw in another of Bronco's favorite words: consistency. Leaving wouldn't be
consistent with the man who is Bronco Mendenhall.
"La Dodger" - as you might have guessed from my handle I live in BELGIUM.
Wouldn't expect a bruin to pick up on that, though. Believe it or not, people
in LA do care about BYU - as well as people in San Diego, Sacramento,
Washington, Oregon,... That's because there are mormons all over the country
who follow BYU. BYU travels very well, and does gets a respectable viewership
on national television. BYU is the only reason the MWC has any sort of national
distribution deal (as crappy as it may be). UCLA, on the other hand, like you
say, is only popular in Los Angeles - and only when they are doing well.Also, you may not know that BYU wouldn't have Norm Chow as their head
coach. Now, you are dying for Chow as yours (good luck with that, by the way).
Where does that put UCLA in the food chain?
There have been several intelligent comments, on both sides of the debate. And
at the same time, there are some real ignorant comments posted. So I guess the
population is well represented. And just to clarify, the real debate is whether
BYU can be good enough to compete for a title or consistent BCS appearances.
The other debate about Bronco leaving is stupid, he's not going to. But here's the bottom line. BYU may or may not be good enough to beat the
best teams right now, but in this environment (current BCS structure) they will
always have a difficult time stacking up because they don't have the money and
resources to recruit at the highest level (this is not news). And
while it is at least conceivable that BYU could bust into the BCS for a year or
two here or there (maybe even the NC game...I said maybe), it is just a circular
debate because one or two times every so often is not going to allow any MWC
team to be close to the top every year. Utah busted the BCS and look at their
program today...possibly even worse than it was before Urban Meyer came.
Since when has UCLA become some storied program? People keep talking about them
as a storied program. I understand that they are in a Bc$ conference and they
had some respectable years under Terry Donahue but they are NOT a storied
program in football, they definately are in Basketball but not even close in
football. They aren't even the biggest fish in their own hometown.
Face it, UCLA isn't exactly a hot bed of football fans to start with, if so you
would know that the new UCLA coach that you seem to support, Norm Chow spent 15
years at BYU developing one of the greatest offenses in college football
history. The current "temp" coach at UCLA, Walker came over from BYU, and a
former BYU QB coaches on the staff of UCLA rival, USC. As for
sports coverage in southern california, I am certain that BYU's limited exposure
in the area has a lot to do with a restrictive recruiting agenda.As
for researching the LV Bowl, save your time and money, it's a long drive back to
LA to be dragging your tail between your legs!!!
There are a lot of clueless people on here. Utah fans who get on here because
there is nothing to talk about with their program. They can't even sell their
alottment of tickets to a great location in December, but they want to talk like
they know college football or they are true fans. First off Bronco is not
going anywhere! For those of you who weren't paying attention before the season
when they redid Bronco's contract, He now makes approximately 950K/year. He is
higher paid than 3 PAC-10 caoches were for last year. That included Karl
Dorrell. He also got a nice raise for his assistants. Secondly, going to
UCLA wouldn't be a step up. Their facilities are an absolute joke! The Rose Bowl
is a great place to play, but after thatnot much. The athletic offices as well
as training and locker rooms are a far cry from what BYU currently has. Third, UCLA has problems with getting top flight athletes qualified
academically. They have stringent qualifying at UCLA, and do not make exceptions
for athletes the way USC does. Bronco views his job as a church calling.
Utah county is his home,and he loves it there!
Sarkisian isn't going anywhere. He still has a long way to go before he can even
be considered Head Coach Material! As far as BYU/UCLA in the Vegas Bowl, I
wouldn't bet on either team as both are capable of pulling off a surprise
No way Bronco bolts for another program. Most posts encouraging Bronco to
consider the offer are focused on $$ only. Bronco is about much more than the
$$. His goal is to develop a program that has young men competing at a national
level within the honor code, representing BYU and the Church. That motivation
runs much deeper than a paycheck. And let's face it, Bronco's leadership style
is uniquely suited to that challenge. Would he succeed elsewhere? Yes, but not
in an environment that appeals to him on so many different levels like only BYU
BIG BOYS doesn't include the Utes either, unless you are talking about the head
on some of their arrogant fans.
If I was UCLA I'd take a good look at Whit.... He'd be a great coach at UCLA.
Then they also wouldn't run the risk of getting destroyed by the Utes... As a
BYU fan I hope they all stay away from Bronco.I have a point to make
about the Big 10. I have two degrees from two different big 10 universities and
I must say the big 10 has slipped in the last 5 years. They aren't in the same
category as an SEC, Big 12 or PAC 10.... They have gotten killed out of
conference the last couple years. They run old style offenses and when they
meet up in the bowls with the tougher conference, they are getting waxed-hard
core. I no longer consider the big 10 an elite conference any more. Watch this
bowl season and see some big 10 fatalities on the field and scoreboard....
To "National Championship my..."- Actually, BYU was the national champion in
1984, and they were given that championship by both the AP and college coaches.
Even if Michigan had been 1-10, it wouldn't have mattered. BYU beat them, and
they won the national championship. Now, stop being bitter, embrace
history for what it is...thank the '96 and '01 Cougars for making it possible
for your '04 'big boys' to play in a BCS game, and hope that your program does a
little better next year.
Come on, Bronco's no Petrino. He'll stay. He's already had to save one sinking
ship, and I think he's doing well at it. It's not a favorable situation to have
to go and save a struggling program. I imagine he doesn't want to do it
again.I would be surprised to see Norm Chow take it either. He had a
good career at 'SC, I don't foresee him jumping to the other side.
Son of Helamen...What on earth would give you the idea that Norm Chow, who beat
UCLA plenty of times on his way to a couple natl champ with USC would be in over
his head at UCLA? Come on man. hahaha...don't be mad because BYU
beat your sorry Utes. Oregon did use dixon in the Vegas bowl last year and
they tried to run the same offense with him and the 10th ranked defense in the
country sent them packing. Do some more research next time before making
A lot of you are over-estimating loyalty in this debate. Those of you that
think Bronco cares so much about byu's program that he'd forgo close to 1
million per year salary are fooling themselves. Byu football is not
a church calling!! It is a job. How many of you love your job so much that you
would forgo another one in a similar capacity for 3 to 4x the pay? Plus,
doesn't Bronco like to surf? You can't do that in Happy Valley.
It seems to me that there is no better fit in the nation for Bronco's coaching
style than BYU. I hope that with as much talking as he does about tradition and
legacy that he will take a page out of Lavell's book...and retire a Cougar.
Also, the college bowl system is going down. it can only resist the
winds of change for so long. Parity and competition are continuing to increase
as are the number of meaningless bowl games. It will not be long before reason
prevails and the entire post season format of Division I football is altered.
Here's the way I see it going down, (crystal ball time).......in an effort to be more relevant conferences add teams and most end up
taking on a multiple division structure requiring a championship game at the end
of the season. because of a national outcry the BCS becomes the DICFC (D-I
College Football Championship) a 16 team playoff. In order to maintain the bowl
tradition major bowl games become conference championships.as far as
I'm concerned it is inevitable...
For three years, Ute fans have been subjected to listening to mouthy Ute haters
trash the U for Urban Meyer leaving. The kharma police are calling, Ute
haters!! If Bronco leaves for UCLA, let's pile on the Ute haters in their fully
invested t-shirts, fellow Ute fans!!Go Utes!!
You're right! No one in LA cares about BYU. I've lived there. Cali is stuck on
themselves. Don't fret though, it's just like anywhere else; they
first think about the people close by, as if no one else could be better. It's
called networking.Although sometimes networking has an opposite
effect. BYU will let you have Chow. We didn't take him when we could have.
We'll keep Bronco, thanks!
so if bronco takes the ucla job, does that mean ben olsen will transfer again?
This is a joke... no one at UCLA is taking bronco serious. He is a small time
coach at a small time academy err university. One question... Has bronco ever
won a big game??? Look at his history playing BCS level competition, even
crappy BCS teams beat byu. Sure he beat a totally depressed Oregon team last
year when they didn't want to be in Vegas, big whoop.Once bronco
proves he can actually compete at a high level (not in the second worse D1
football conference in nation) then you could maybe make a case, otherwise, have
fun at a another bad bowl game this year.
Seriously, this article is completely based on one of the reports from ESPN!
Just think how often they are wrong in their reporting?! There is no concrete
foundation in this story; C'mon! It's merely speculation at this point.However, Mendenhall is a good coach and has been since I can remember him at
UNM. I wish him good luck where ever he is coaching. Hopefully, he will stay
at BYU for the long haul.
Mr. "HAHAHAHA", YOU are the joke at the highest level and a sorry excuse for
humanity when you criticise a quality person and coach like Bronco Mendenhall.
Apparently YOU don't know what you're talking about when there are other college
teams considering him for their head coach.
I love how up in the night the BYU fans are!!! You weren't National Champions
back in '84 and you will never come close again! BYU beat a 5-5 non-ranked
Mighigan team for the "National Championship" in '84, would you have conidered
Michigan the NCs if they would have won that game at 6-5?? At least Utah beat
19th ranked Pitt in '04 and that was a joke.Got news for ya Cougies, Las
Vegas is as close as you will get to any BCS game, you will keep losing the
important games, even if your great leader dumbs down the schedule. Whit
may not win all the games he should but he doesn't run from a fight, he
encourages it! Really think that UCLA wants a coach that would play high school
teams if he could to try and bust the BCS?? Leave the BCS BUSTING to the
BIG BOYS (that doesn't include Hawaii)!!!!
RE: Head Coach - It doesn't matter who coaches BYU? Please, you are obviously
short minded as to the horrible 4 year run of Crowton....I think it matters who
coaches. Cougar fans, you live in a dream world most of the time.
When things are great they are great, when they aren't you are still in the
dream years or at least that is all you talk about. Bronco isn't
I'm suprised his name hasn't come up in the past. Look at everything he has to
offer, young, experienced, good looking, charismatic, excellent recruiter, great
people person, morale, x's and o's guy, loves his players, good to the media,
marketable, why wouldn't the UCLA's, LSU's and Michigans of the world want him.
If, Les Miles does not end up at Michigan, look for his name to come up there. I
would expect that his name will come up every year there is a coach opening at
the next level.With that said, UCLA appears to be the best place for
him to go. And he would win a National Championship there. Going to So. Cal,
allows him to recruit from one of the biggest recruiting areas in the nation and
compete for those players. Plus, the LDS population/players would more likely
stay home to play for him than go to BYU. Furthermore, he could come here and
steal a kid or two from the Y and U. He would have it made there. I honestly
think that UCLA should consider him their #1 candidate.
Bronco is a great coach at BYU-Provo, but it's not clear that he would succeed
anywhere else. He relies very heavily on the thing the makes BYU-Provo unique -
the Mormon church. All of his recruiting and motivating techniques are geared
towards Mormons. Who knows if he would be able to coach/recruit kids who aren't
LDS? The UCLA job is a great job, no doubt. But it's in Bronco's own
self interest to never leave Provo.
Bronco isn't going anywhere for a long time. I think coaching at BYU means more
to him than coaching anywhere else. BYU has always underpaid their coaches, but
they pay their football and basketball coaches A LOT more than they used to (I
still think it's funny that their last b-ball coach left BYU for Fresno State.
I don't care if it his home town, that's funny.). The bump in pay wouldn't make
it worth it to Bronco to leave BYU. The only way he will ever leave is when his
kids are grown up and gone, and he just wants to see what he could actually do
in a big-time conference.I think you will find the same thing at the
U with Kyle Whittingham.
Michigan and Ohio St. don't have to schedule top programs in non-conference.
They play in the Big 10!! That means they already have 6 to 7 quality opponents
on the schedule; Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan St., Each other, Purdue, and Penn
St. That is a lot different than Wyoming, UNLV, SDSU, CSU, and New
Mexico. Isn't it?
Gee, I wonder why UCLA isn't talking to Kyle Whittingham?
Well, it's not the first time Bronco's the second or third or fourth choice to
fill a head coaching job. Just ask BYU!
How many years has Bronco been head couch? 3 he is playing a 5 and 5 UCLA team
and BYU Fans are talking NC? did I miss something? Bronco has a ways to go to
match Lavell remember him, he couldnt get them out of the WAC now how is Bronco
going to get them to the PAC 10?
Bronco ought to take the job if offered. I think its is a very tough job tough.
To compete with SC right now would be tough. Six bcs bowl games in a row that
program is on a roll. And fair or not UCLA will always be compared to USC. It is a prestigous job. In a great conference. He would have a tough
time scheduling down though since the pac 10 has 9 conference games. And I'm
sure he would miss the great tv exposure the mountain offers in isolated pockets
of the wasatch front.
Hey Belgie:Playing one BCS School a year doesn't mean that byu is
"competitive" compared to those schools. Come On! If that is the case, UNLV is
also "competitive" because they played Wisconsin tough this year. Also, reading the church news 6000 miles away does not constitute getting
national media attention.
UCLA needs Bronco more than Bronco needs UCLA. Bronco will be
offered numerous opportunities to coach elsewhere, and BYU's program will
continue to exceed national expectations. UCLA meanwhile, needs a coach to
match its lofty BCS status, will struggle to meet its program's resulting
expectations, and will continue firing coaches until someone does. Tough to imagine, I know, a BCS school with all its unearned money and
inflated respect. Surely Bronco wants overhyped players, too. Doesn't Bronco
want to be in the hot seat every year he isn't in the National Championship? With the parity in college football, Bronco recruits the talent he
needs. And at BYU a better effort on the field is more important than talent.
BYU has the facilities, the coaches, the fan support, the school, the values,
and even a comparable winning tradition; so BCS schools only offer more money
and more respect. When you have enough money, how much more do you need?
Respect is more fulfilling when it is earned. And does UCLA really offer more
National Championships? They have one shared title in 1954. BYU has an outright
title in 1984.The Pac 10 doesn't want Bronco, because then they get
Belgie - where do you live? China? Yeah, I'm sure you're an "expert" on
national attention. I too live outside of Utah and I don't agree with you. You
probably are a BYU fan so you're looking for articles and highlights. To be
honest, no one here in LA cares about BYU. It's also probably true that no one
here really cares about the Bruins unless they are doing well. I CAN say that
UCLA fans - those that are die-hard like myself - would be extremely
disappointed if we hired your coach. We want Chow as head coach and Walker as
an assistant. If we can't get Chow, we'll take Walker. I've never heard of
your guy until I came over here to do some research on our bowl opponent.
It's interesting that with all the talk of bronco considering ucla, Haven't
heard anyone mention who could replace bronco. Not that I think bronco has the
desire to leave byu. He has said time and again that it is his goal to restore
BYU to its former glory and re-establish them as a national power as before. Two
years, two conference championships and three bowl games mean nothing at this
point. Bronco would say that he has a long way to go in restoring the BYU
program. And if he left so many BYU fans would feel abandoned. Perhaps similar
in the way Olsen left for ucla and we see how that worked out.But no
has mentioned who would replace Bronco?Maybe, but why not Steve
Sarkisian? Just a thought.And this thing about the SC's, Oklahoma's,
Michigan's and so forth's? BYU doesn't have to play all those teams
year end and out. Those programs don't play each other like that either. Hey, I
live in Michigan, and OSU and the U of M regularly stack their schedules with
teams from the MAC and like conferences.Do you people actually know
anything about college football? I don't think so.
"Belgie & Dave? Serious?" and "No National Championship" - Did you even read my
post? I specifically said that the best of the mid-majors are COMPETITIVE WITH
the top BCS teams. Several programs have proven that over the past 5 years. I
also specifically said that BYU wouldn't have a chance at a national title in
the next 2 years. Beyond that - nobody can say. I only said that BYU should be
the best mid-major, and they will therefore get national attention (just like
Utah and BSU have already done).And, by the way, I DO live outside
of Utah - about 6000 miles outside of Utah. And BYU gets about as much national
attention as any other team at the bottom of the top-25. They get mentioned in
columns. They get pictures and video put in highlight sections. Mendenhall
gets talked about. In fact, in a lot of cases, national media LOVE to talk
about the little guy that excels. If BYU pounds UCLA in the Las Vegas bowl,
plenty of journalists will talk about the stupid match ups the MWC has in its
It may be good for Baronco-Bama, er... Bronco Mendenhall to grab the UCLA job
while there is still a great program within his reach - because he, just like a
strong democratic presidential candidate, is just a flash in the pan. If he
doesn't jump at this opportunity, he may not have another. He will just fizzle
out and die in happy valley.Now, time for all of us computer geeks
to get back to work and to quit fantasizing about real life football scenarios.
It will not matter who coaches BYU, They will always be a great team and Utah
Are you in the BYU Human Resources Department? How in the world do you know what
Bronco makes?It has been reported that he is in the
$900,000-1,200,000 range, which would most likely make him a 7 digit guy.
I bet every school in the country wishes that they had a top five ginormous fund
for their school. I sure am glad byu has one. It is so huge!
Re Ute Fan: Sark ain't leaving USC for anything less than a head
Did anyone hear Lou Holtz talk about Hawaii a few weeks ago and what bowl they
should be in? Near the end of his comments he mentioned that Hawaii was in the
MWC. He was immediately corrected by Mark May who told him Hawaii was in the
WAC. But the point is even the so-called experts know nothing (or maybe just a
little) about the MWC or the WAC or any of the teams in the mid-majors,
including BYU and Utah. Hopefully, Bronco will be the coach to help
change that at BYU.
Not everyone in the world thinks that making big money is the end-all, beat-all
of human existence. I could make bigger money in bigger cities, but I don't
want to live there. I have all I need here. Coaching (and winning) at BYU and
you are the most popular LDS guy on earth next to the prophet. Bronco isn't going anywhere.
HAHAHAHAH is obviously a Ute fan as are all of those who are encouraging Bronco
to go. As for being a joke -- well, winning 2of3 from Utah is pretty funny. Then
there's Air Force (who also beat TTUN) and TCU, which is traditionally pretty
good. And a look at BYU's upcoming schedule includes the likes of Washington,
Florida State, and several other good programs. Now, there are a lot of reasons
that I think some of Bronco's strategies might not work with a different
population, I am not surprised people are looking at him. And I also don't think
the Tennessee Titans OC would be out of his league.
Why would Sarkisian want to go to UCLA? USC is a much better place for SARK and
its pays much more than UCLA. "Andy who?", says USC. UNLV 27-0.
Great offensive mind. Dream on.
"BlueBoy" is a classical BYU fan that is mixing employment with his church
attendance. BYU would want people to believe that working for them is a
"calling" so that they can pay you less, but when those people look around (like
Bronco will, if he is truely offered something), and realize that his salary can
go from a couple hundred to a couple million dollars, it won't take long for him
to realize that all of the extra-curricular things he is there at BYU for, he
can find at UCLA (except for the goofy students). While money isn't everything,
the opportunity to get paid 10 times your current salary is something that would
make anyone look at the job, regardless of the calling. How many times do you
have a chance to earn a several million dolllar salary? As an FYI, I had a
bishop move from my neighborhood because he got a job offer paying him 2X his
salary, so it wouldn't be the first time someone has left a "calling" to better
his family's financial situation.
RE: ogmson - You bash on Ute fans when one respectfully made a post right above
yours. Then you wonder why our fans are some of the most hated? Go figure.Question, what was 0-2 supposed to mean? If you are refering to his
record against Utah, go back and check your facts and you find that you are
wrong. As far as Bronco leaving. It's all speculation. We don't even
know that he has been asked to interview. Until then it is all speculation.
It is clear that the direction that Bronco has led this program (in an earthly
sense) makes another National Championship an inevitability.There is
no program that can come close to the way that BYU is building its program the
right way and is building its players for success in the future. We are truly
witnessing greatness. I just don't understand why we must be bound
by this Conference and its Television contract. BYU's presence in any game
means that it gets unparalleled ratings. Accordingly, BYU needs to go
independent, sign an exclusive deal with NBC to cover its games, and inherit all
that it has rightfully earned thanks to its behavior on and off the field.
If Chow were to get the job at UCLA, the best move he could make would be to
take Sarkisian from USC. Which, would vacate the OC job that would be a great
fit for Andy Ludwig. BYU gets to keep BrocoChow and Sarkisian
are reunitedWe lose LudwigIt's a win-win-win!!!
Look at Broncos record vs non conference opponents. And to Elsabio, I know he
beat Arizona, a poor pac 10 team. Other than Oregon who didnt use Dixon, you
havent beat anyone worth talking about. You could have been a BCS buster but
Tulsa and UCLA took you.
Coach Bronco will not leave BYU. No, he is not at a 7 figure income like he
could be at UCLA, but make no mistake, most of you have no idea of the behind
the scenes activity of big money boosters putting together special fund for the
Coach's at BYU. The money is for retirement, special needs, recruiting and/or
whatever to properly compensate our head coaches and give them the financial
support that BYU can't. Only angry, 0-2, Ute fans would say that BYU
coach's are not the class of the country. But go ahead, keep writing things you
know nothing about so those of us that do can have something good to laugh at.
The money raised privately for this 'fund' is ginormous. There are
not five other programs in the country that can claim the same thing, at least
none that are spoke of. Why would Bronco leave that?BTW, I know, BYU
can't compete with Oklahoma (Tucson) Michigan (San Diego) Kansas (Dallas) Texas
A&M (San Diego) Oregon(LV) Oops. Well, maybe he meant except for the last time
they played each other.....What a idiot. How do you turn the computer on when
you are that dumb?
How can any of you say what Bronco thinks? You all sound ridiculous.
RE: Hahahah - I am the biggest Ute fan there is, but even I with all the
dislikes I have for BYU can admit that Bronco Mendenhall is one heck of great
head coach. UCLA would be lucky to get him in my book. Just like all you Cougs
were so thrilled when Urban left Utah, I to would be thrilled to see him move on
to bigger and better things. I'm not a BYU fan, but I am not oblivious to the
fact that BRONCO can coach and motivate kids. For those that doubt he could do
it at UCLA, I think you are dead wrong! So, Mr. HAHAHAAH, I think
you are the one being laughed at. GO UTES!!!!!
RE: Why Bronco - Explain why this doesn't make any sense? Who says if Bronco was
hired that Walker would even be on his staff. If Bronco leaves, I'm sure Robert
Anae is following him to coach the offense. It makes sense for Bronco to go to
UCLA if offered the job. He is a great head coach and has proved he can elevate
a program in the dumps. Plus, this gives him the shot at big time and the BCS.
But in the end whent he smoke clears, Bronco will still be a Cougar
is my gut feeling. But you may as well get used to him being offered jobs as
long as BYU does well. And I don't see BYU upping the ante to match what UCLA
Bronco is the real deal however his cougs will not be a BCS Buster year after
year unless they figure out how to beat non conference opponents just like Utah
wont do it until they learn to beat weak conference opponents. Truth is as was
mentioned earlier unless Hawaii beats Georgia the justification to invite non
BCS teams is gone. The BCS is politics and money. That is why Utah played Pitt
not Auburn (to much controversy if Utah beats Auburn), and why the hope was
Oklahoma would destroy BSU, did not happen so they are looking for Georgia to do
it to Hawaii. The whole reason they created the system was to keep the non BCS
schools out!!!! You are only fooling yourself if you think any of them will win
a National Championship!!! Unless college football goes to a play off there will
never be any hope. As for Bronco, I am not a cougar fan but he is a classy guy
who gets the job done. I hope he stays because he does give the conference a
better chance at getting the recognition it deserves. GO MWC
youre just jealous that ucla doesnt want whittingham...how come the really good
mid majors dont get more respect after utah throttled big pittsburgh and boise
state beat monster oklahoma. even if hawaii beats georgia, next year will be the
exact same and no mid major will get respect no matter what they do. tourney
Funny his "former BYU" name hasn't come up...
Where else would you choose to rasie a family, than the little community where
you grew up?BYU has spent the bucks to build "The Program" and will
spend the bucks the KEEP the program. A half empty stadium does no one any
good.Good for BYU football, the current coaching staff and the
former staffers. Interesting that both are being considered to coach against
arch rival USC, and guess who is calling the plays over there!!!Let's see, Walker is already on board, Chow and Bronco are in the news...To
bad BYU isn't good enough to play in the Pac 10!!!
This doesn't make sense to me. Walker will stay on as defensive coordinator.
Bronco's forte is also defense. Who's going to coach the offense? I think UCLA
is just blowing smoke on this one. Desperate times call for desperate
meausures. UCLA is a desperate program right now.
Hey, Bronco wants a shot at the BCS, so here is is chance. He'd be studpid not
to go after this job. Here is a chance to coach in a more reputable conference,
get more national exposure, play a tougher schedule, etc. Oh wait, he might not
like to tougher schedule part, but he can always schedule down his non
conference schedule a little. At least this will give him a chance to prove his
Typical Cougar fan. Put down the Kool-Aid and get real. BYU better than UCLA.
Good team in a so so conference. Nothing more, Nothing less
UCLA is just trying to distract BYU for this bowl game. If UCLA loses to BYU it
is major disaster for their program. Bronco will stay at the Y.
Bronco's comments over the three years he's been head coach don't lend to any
concept of his leaving BYU for more money, or leaving because some storied BCS
school wants him. He considers his job here a calling, not an opportunity only.
Money isn't an issue for someone who's happy to live the simple life.I believe he wants to be remembered many years from now as the guy who got BYU
permanently into the national football scene, as a top, well-respected team that
contends for the national title, regardless of conference affiliation. In fact,
he probably wants BYU to get invited into a BCS conference like the Pac-10.Granted, most teams there don't want that, but the BCS itself might
cause that conference to expand one day, and if BYU is a top-tier winner year
after year, that might do the trick. Money speaks, and if BYU is winning BCS
dollars every year from the BCS conferences, they'll likely want to bring BYU
into the fold to retain that dough.
Attention ha ha ha ha. You are one cynical human being. Try taking Bronco's
place for even a week since you appear to be such an expert.You
appear to be one of those people who would be critical of BYU and it's coaches
even if they played 2-3 BCS teams and blew them off the field each year and then
went unbeaten and won the NCAA championship. There would be something wrong with
the coaches, the players, or anything that you could conjur up.My
opinion for what it is worth. BYU does a REMARKABLE job in staying competitive
with the special challenge of utilizing all the returned missionaries and being limited to recruiting youngmen who committ to the
HIGH standards at the Y.And for all of you who want Bronco to move
on to more money, maybe money is not what motivates him.Just maybe the
things that motivated Lavell Edwardsis motivating him. Money is important,
but it IS NOTthe grand achievement of life.And that's it for
this 13th day of November 2007.
Being the "class of the mid-majors" does not, and will never, get any team to
the national championship. Utah and Boise State proved that they will let
mid-majors go to their dance, but not dance with the head cheerleader. Hawaii
this year is an aberration. They have a joke schedule and if there hadn't been
so many shake-ups with top teams losing this year they wouldn't have gone to a
BCS bowl, even with an undefeated season. Bronco would be crazy
to pass up the chance if UCLA offered it, but UCLA isn't interested in investing
in Bronco's stock.
You're about a decade late in your thinking. College football is becoming more
competitive because of the scholarship limits that have been in effect for quite
awhile now.Years ago the top BCS teams could cubby-hole talent three
deep, but not any more. That's why the BCS bowl matchups have been so messed up
lately, especially this year. Parity is happening in college football.If it weren't for the BCS itself causing the cream of the crop giving top BCS
teams maybe 1.5 deep in talent, the mid-major schools would be even more
competitive. BYU is at least 1 deep in top talent, which is why it has been so
competitive the past two years.BYU is well on its way to becoming a
BCS buster year after year as long as Bronco sticks around. He' proven himself
to be the real deal. His record speaks for itself.Nice try, "Do it!"
Man, if I'm thinking about taking a job for more $$ in So. Cal, but am in the
middle of creating something that I think is special, the first thing I would do
is run a look at a blog at the DMN to see what all of the computer geeks think
to help me make my decision...
The think that always makes me chuckle about byu fans is they think the byu
program is more respected at a National level than it is. Yes, byu is a great
mid-major program. It may be the best of the non-big boys. However, No one
cares about MWC Championships outside the borders of this conference. Most
people think Utah and Byu are still in the WAC at a Nat'l level. Spend some
time outside of Utah and take note of how often you hear about byu football.
Furthermore, a huge mistake is made in thinking byu can compete consistently on
a Nat'l level with the big boys. Florida, Ohio St., LSU, USC, etc. play quality
teams every week within their own conferences. Byu does not have that
opportunity. Therefore, losses to teams like Tulsa immediately look really bad
without a chance for redemption. Last of all, look at where the MWC sends its
conference champion. That is a good indication of how well the nation respects
this conference. It puts the conference champion on par with a dead in the
water Pac-10 team.
You've gotta think of your family Bronco. BYU has always been known to
extremeely underpay their coaches. He would probably double or triple his
current income if he went to UCLA. His assistants would double or triple their
pay as well. He would also have the awesome chance to see what REAL elite
athletes could do with his defensive "system" with real defensive backs. He would have athletes 3 deep at his disposal at every position and the
chance to play for a national championship if they run the table or have one
loss. BYU will never have that opportunity unless they schedule two or three
BCS conference contenders every year. Sure they could go to a BCS bowl if
undefeated while playing pansies, but NEVER a national championship.
"Are you serious?" - I agree that BYU has almost no chance to win a NC in the
next 2 years. But, BYU should be at or near the level of most of the teams you
mentioned. Utah and BSU have proven that good non-BCS teams can still compete
on the national scene. BYU has had early season struggles the past two years,
but almost everybody agrees that they haven't been the same team at the end of
the season as they were at the beginning. If they can avoid those same
early-season problems, BYU should be the class of the "mid-majors" for the
Interviewing for coaching positions,when one is allready a college head coach,
has almost always proven to be a disruptive and demoralizing experience for the
"sought after coaches" players, fans and university. Hopefully, Bronco will
resist bringing this situation on the byu sports community. At least not until
he has a bona fide offer on the table.
I wonder if the stories from the BOM would motivate the Bruins? I think Bronco
and the rest of the Cougars faithful are underestimating the ability of UCLA to
hire a football coach. Norm and Bronco would most definitely be in over their
Dave, Please tell me you arent serious when you say that BYU has a better chance
than anyone to will the NC in the next two years. Just because BYU has a patsy
schedule for the next few years does not automatically make them NC Contenders.
I dont think there is a person in the country (outside of utah county) that
thinks BYU would have a prayer against the likes of USC, Oklahoma, Michigan,
LSU, OSU, Georgia, Florida.... you get the picture. I like to see
BYU win, but this is exactly why people laugh at BYU and MWC fans. It is the
unreal perception of the dominance of their program. After Hawaii gets beat up
this year by Georgia it will be even harder for a non BCS conference team to be
a BCS buster.
hahahaha proves the intellect of the parameciam is alive and well. BYU vs
Arizona, 2007. The score was in favor of the Y, and Arizona is not a MWC team.
Also to denigrate Bronco as a joke is another exhibit of irrational
ignorance...on the highest level.
Bronco would be a fool not to take this opportunity if it were granted. Very
impressive to even be considered for such a position!
I believe it is more a way for UCLA, or ESPN trying to help UCLA, to drop the
confidence level of BYU players to try and gain an edge. That is if the BYU
players think Bronco would consider leaving, not likely. Bronco is upfront and
honest to his players and they will see this for what it is, an attempted
distraction.Yes Bronco has been successful, and will most likely
continue, but his success is the result of strategy applied to a situation. In
the situation of BYU it works well but I do not think it would work at UCLA.
Bronco could adapt his strategy, but success is hard to replicate by adaptation.
Just look at business and you will see several examples of this failure.
Unless there's outrageously big money involved, Bronco shouldn't even consider
this move, since his BYU (in the next two years) will have a better chance than
anyone in the country to win a National Championship! UCLA has no chance, Bronco
or no Bronco.
You can thank Craig Thompson if Bronco even considers going to UCLA. The
Cougars have a better football program than UCLA but with the lack of exposure
due the MTN TV deal it's going to continue to get more difficult for BYU and
other MWC teams to recruit quality athletes. The top notch guys want to play
and be seen on TV... that's an important tool to taking their game to the next
level. I truly think Bronco is a BYU guy and if the MWC had a TV deal that was
at least as good as what they had with ESPN prior to the MTN then Bronco
wouldn't even consider leaving BYU. He realizes that BYU could be the "Gonzaga"
of college football.But... Craig Thompson has the MWC going down the
same road as his former conference... The Sun Belt. I'm not sure any MWC coach
wants to playing at that level of competition in the next 2-4 years. And that's
where the MWC will be with the level of exposure they get with the MTN. I can't
blame Bronco if he doesn't want to be around to see that.
maybe when he can beat a team out of the MWC he can be taken serious. Bronco is
a joke... on the highest level