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Anonymous | 3:27 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Young people see gay marriage as being a no brainer too. This is a generation
that is open about alternative sexual lifestyles. They find no problem with
electing gay home coming queens. Being bisexual is fashionable for college
women.
Bob G | 6:03 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Why is it a surprise? These younger generations are not marrying until they get
over 30 with established careers. During this time of high sexual motivation as
nature intended, they must release sexual tensions in some manner. It
hasn't been sutdied yet but there is a relationship in social sexual crimes
going up and the ages of individuals. They have developed and learned a sexual
behavior that they have dificulty changing to meet the demands of what marriage
is. They have used the world of pornography and imagination to develope
individual sexual release and had no other choice with this developement during
their prime years. They have lived a life of no commitment to anybody but
themselves. Many are still living at home when they should be on their own away
from the security of their parents and the silver plater they have had all their
lives. They live in fear of the real world of living and supporting themselves
and a family. They also fear raising a family because of the economical costs
and outlays they must endure as all generations have had to do. The new
generations lack any character or self discipline and it shows.
anonymous | 6:04 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
I'm not surprised at the findings but appreciate this article very much. I
would be interested in seeing how the resondents will feel in 10 and 20 years;
after they are married, possibly divorced, and likely raising children in a
troubling world. I'm frightened to know what is out there for my family and
children and bothered that I may not be able to monitor everything they do all
of the time. Thank you Mr. Carroll.
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Anonymous | 6:45 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Why not just say 'there's too many darn non mormons out there?'
One thing valuable that was pointed out in the article...our hyper sterile, helmeted, over protected world is creating a generation unable to make decisions for themselves.
One thing valuable that was pointed out in the article...our hyper sterile, helmeted, over protected world is creating a generation unable to make decisions for themselves.
Anonymous | 7:15 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Porns negative effects are overrated. It can be a great release for those who
have no wife or girlfriend.
To anonymous #2 | 7:25 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Regardless of religion, porn is destructive. I have studied the effects, and it
can destroy a marriage and family. That is why this study is so alarming!
Anonymous | 7:34 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Porn has helped me considerably. It has allowed me to see things that I never
knew existed and to have a better sex life with my wife. It isn't as
negative as you zoobies think it is.
Anonymous | 7:38 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
I didn't find the study too alarming. Women can be as sexual as fellas and
it is very refreshing to see that they can explore new ways to express their
sexuality. Girls aren't as innocent as you think. There are many
aggresive, sexual women out there too.
PORNnonymous | 7:46 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Porn is the wave of the future. I think it will be like Coke and Pepsi used to
be for Mormons. It used to be like strictly prohibited, but slowly it became
more acceptable. Eventually, in 10 - 20 years, it will be more acceptable, and
even the LDS faithful will see it's benefits to a normal healthy life.
Anonymous | 8:06 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
I'm married to someone addicted to pornography. He has struggled to
overcome it--and all of us (including him) have suffered, but grown in the
process. He's pretty much out of it, but during the height of his
addiction, it distorted his view of me and distracted him from paying attention
to his children. We have mostly recovered from the damage, but it has taken
years. Those who think it is like coke or pepsi are fooling themselves. But that
is not unusual for people attracted to pornography--they lose touch with
reality, they lose the ability to love and the ability to see the truth.
It's tragic.
Anonymous | 8:23 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Just because some people are harmed by porn, doesn't mean that all are, its
just like alcohol or food or anything else. Blanket rules benefit the weak
among us, but have the cost of a more sterile life for those who could have
handled it. Porn can and does help men especially lead a more full life when
other alternatives are not available.
Half Empty & Half Full | 8:25 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
To the last poster: anonymous (8:06 a.m., Dec. 13), You're right, porn can
be addictive, just like alcohol, drugs, prescriptions, sex, train collections,
ebay shopping, etc. It's horrible that your husband and your family had to
go through that experience, but it doesn't mean porn is bad for everyone.
I've read that there is an "addiction gene" that predisposes some
people to become addicted to certain things more easily than others. It's
all about self-control and monitoring. Don't watch porn if you find
yourself addicted - simple really. The Coke/Pepsi comment is a little over the
top, but essentially, that's the way society is going. Porn can be
"therapeutic" to couples struggling in their relationship and as long
as they partake of it co-consensually and together, it (hopefully)
shouldn't be a problem.
Personally, I don't agree with the "all women who accept porn lead troubling lives" comment. I'm sure there are plenty of women out there that have normal, stable lives without drug use, drinking or promiscuity in their lives.
Also, I think we have more important things to worry about in our society, such as young adults killing people at random.
Personally, I don't agree with the "all women who accept porn lead troubling lives" comment. I'm sure there are plenty of women out there that have normal, stable lives without drug use, drinking or promiscuity in their lives.
Also, I think we have more important things to worry about in our society, such as young adults killing people at random.
Arm of Orion | 8:25 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Porn destroys. I know a former cop who investigated sexual abuse cases guess
what was in the accused's possession 100% of the time. Porn. Porn binds you
down it makes you a slave to sex.
Differ from men and their dads? | 8:37 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
37% of their fathers approve? Does that include the soft-porn of R rated movies
piped into their homes through premium channels, which push the boundaries which
Gen X is pushing more?
Different from men and their moms? Does "porn" include "romance" novels, and the articles and surveys about sex in nearly EVERY women's or fashion magazine? Men LOOK, women READ. Is one more "harmless" than the other? I'd like to see the statistics adjusted for these soft porn alternatives, and see just how different the statistics would really be.
Families grease the wheels with soft porn, then wonder why the wheels are spinning faster for their kids.
Different from men and their moms? Does "porn" include "romance" novels, and the articles and surveys about sex in nearly EVERY women's or fashion magazine? Men LOOK, women READ. Is one more "harmless" than the other? I'd like to see the statistics adjusted for these soft porn alternatives, and see just how different the statistics would really be.
Families grease the wheels with soft porn, then wonder why the wheels are spinning faster for their kids.
Roger | 8:40 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
This is a good article, and I�m extremely impressed with
the research team for asking these questions and addressing the issue
scientifically, despite the fact that their church is very opinionated on the
issue and has already come to its own conclusions.
I suspect that the result of porn will prove be a mixed bag, that has different effects on different people, depending upon their own internal makeup, their belief structures, and the expectations of those with whom they have relationships.
I have a feeling that porn has a very different effect on people who think it is morally acceptable than it does on people who don�t think it is acceptable.
I suspect that the result of porn will prove be a mixed bag, that has different effects on different people, depending upon their own internal makeup, their belief structures, and the expectations of those with whom they have relationships.
I have a feeling that porn has a very different effect on people who think it is morally acceptable than it does on people who don�t think it is acceptable.
To: Arm of Orion | 8:51 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
So every crook had porn in his possession. He probably also had cheese in his
refrigerator and toilet paper in his bathroom. How do you know THOSE
aren't really the cause of his criminality? They're found in the home
of every criminal, after all. Correlation isn't causation.
No one is immune | 8:58 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Ted Bundy, serial killer and rapist, said this before he was executed in the
electric chair: "You are going to kill me, and that will protect society
from me. But out there are many, many more people who are addicted to
pornography, and you are doing nothing about that." Enough said.
re: Roger | 8:58 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
"I have a feeling that porn has a very different effect on people who think
it is morally acceptable than it does on people who don�t
think it is acceptable."
This may or may not be true, but what is true of EVERY destructive addict:
- They didn't intend on becoming an addict.
- They thought they WOULDN'T/COULDN'T become an addict.
- They didn't recognize many of the negative consequences.
- They thought "they" wouldn't suffer the negative consequences.
- They couldn't escape the additction, and if they did, it wasn't until OTHERS had paid the price.
- They didn't intend the escalation of addiction and consequence.
- They never escaped until AFTER they admitted both their addiction, AND their vulnerability.
And the NON-addicts avoided all that by being wise enough to recognize EVERYONE is vulnerable, some more than others, but no one knowing up front just how vulnerable they might be.
This may or may not be true, but what is true of EVERY destructive addict:
- They didn't intend on becoming an addict.
- They thought they WOULDN'T/COULDN'T become an addict.
- They didn't recognize many of the negative consequences.
- They thought "they" wouldn't suffer the negative consequences.
- They couldn't escape the additction, and if they did, it wasn't until OTHERS had paid the price.
- They didn't intend the escalation of addiction and consequence.
- They never escaped until AFTER they admitted both their addiction, AND their vulnerability.
And the NON-addicts avoided all that by being wise enough to recognize EVERYONE is vulnerable, some more than others, but no one knowing up front just how vulnerable they might be.
Anonymous | 9:13 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Pornography is pure evil. Anyone who defends it or tries to justify themselves
using it-they are absolutely ignorant and foolish. Period.
AL | 9:17 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
My sou-in-law works in law inforcement, mostly abuse cases, and said in almost
every case of child abuse they investigate pornography was involved.
Whether L.D.S. or not, we come to this earth pre-wired to learn, whether it be of the dark or the light. Pornography certainly is not of the light.
I have found it interesting that there hasn't been more of an outcry from the L.D.S. community about the Marriotts making millions from porn in their hotel rooms. Oh, well follow the dollar.
Whether L.D.S. or not, we come to this earth pre-wired to learn, whether it be of the dark or the light. Pornography certainly is not of the light.
I have found it interesting that there hasn't been more of an outcry from the L.D.S. community about the Marriotts making millions from porn in their hotel rooms. Oh, well follow the dollar.
Tom | 9:19 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Porn is a problem for members of the LDS church, no doubt. Why do you think it
is mentioned at nearly every single general conference. Biological impulses
often supercede our moral teachings.
Interesting Fact | 9:42 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Presumably, 0% of LDS men believe that porn is acceptable, even though x% use it
anyway.
Among the next generation of Americans, 86% believe it is accetable, while only 49% use it.
Apparently, there are a lot of people who think porn is fine, but don't indulge in it. Its addictive powers aren't absolute.
The people who scare me are the opposite: people like Ted Bundy who think that porn is evil yet do it anyway.
Among the next generation of Americans, 86% believe it is accetable, while only 49% use it.
Apparently, there are a lot of people who think porn is fine, but don't indulge in it. Its addictive powers aren't absolute.
The people who scare me are the opposite: people like Ted Bundy who think that porn is evil yet do it anyway.
Too bad... | 9:46 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
It is really sad to hear the comments of those who are addicted to Porn. You can
tell they are blinded by their addiction. They offer excuses, justifying their
obsession with narrow, self-serving analogies.
Pornography is destructive to society as a whole. It has nothing to do with the preservation of the human race, building families, or raising well adjusted, balanced children.
It focuses on self gratification and removes natural affection. It is self consuming. It factors out the natural development of intimate relations defeating the natural and developmental release of sex related hormones.
You guys who say it's okay are only demonstrating your ignorance of the facts. Seek help before you destroy more than your own life. The longer you're in it the worse the effect will be.
Pornography is destructive to society as a whole. It has nothing to do with the preservation of the human race, building families, or raising well adjusted, balanced children.
It focuses on self gratification and removes natural affection. It is self consuming. It factors out the natural development of intimate relations defeating the natural and developmental release of sex related hormones.
You guys who say it's okay are only demonstrating your ignorance of the facts. Seek help before you destroy more than your own life. The longer you're in it the worse the effect will be.
Johnny Utah # 9 | 9:50 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
I'm just curious as to why the study did not include students at BYU.
-Was it because students at BYU do not view any pornography?
-Or was it because BYU has the same percentages of students viewing porn as any other college, and they don't want those numbers made public?
I wonder...
-Was it because students at BYU do not view any pornography?
-Or was it because BYU has the same percentages of students viewing porn as any other college, and they don't want those numbers made public?
I wonder...
Wow | 9:55 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
I can't believe that people can actually defend the use of pornography as
normal and acceptable. Anyone who says it is useful or helpful is delusional.
Stop kidding yourself and accept the fact that you have a problem. Nothing good
can ever come from pornography; it destroys lives.
me | 9:57 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Maybe that is why you don't have a wife or girl friend because you are
addicted to porn. No respectable woman wants a man who is addicted to porn. It
is really sad for the anonymous that said it has made his sex life with his wife
better.( Notice he didn't say love making) They are not thinking of each
other during I can tell you that. They are thinking of the filth that they have
been watching!
Linus | 9:59 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
There is such tremendous misery in being altogether immersed in filthiness.
Escape is so difficult. The problem is that the addiction to filthiness is so
overpowering that a man will abandon wife and children, home and career to cling
to it.
It is sad that women are losing their self-respect to the point that they are willing to compete with posed and photoshopped images for the attentions of a perverted male.
It is sad that women are losing their self-respect to the point that they are willing to compete with posed and photoshopped images for the attentions of a perverted male.
Sex Addict | 10:02 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
I think its ignorant to speak for other people. i myself am a sex addict, and
it started with porn. I lost touch with reality, lost touch with my ability to
cope with every day stressors without resorting to porn as an escape, and
allowed it into my home and the use of it nearly caused me to loose my wife and
kids. I have seen many other people fight this addiction and there are support
groups out there if you are interested.
I don't know if anyone can "casually" use pornography, but i can't, and i have been scarred for life because of it. I have been addicted for several years, going through times of binge use and times of sobriety. At worst, I stunted emotional growth of myself and hurt those around me, and at best I lost connection with the outside world.
I hope for those who struggle with this addiction that they will find the help they need, and i hope for those who successfully use pornography in a constructive manner, that it will continue to be so.
J
I don't know if anyone can "casually" use pornography, but i can't, and i have been scarred for life because of it. I have been addicted for several years, going through times of binge use and times of sobriety. At worst, I stunted emotional growth of myself and hurt those around me, and at best I lost connection with the outside world.
I hope for those who struggle with this addiction that they will find the help they need, and i hope for those who successfully use pornography in a constructive manner, that it will continue to be so.
J
RE: Bob G. | 10:03 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Wow - I resent your statement, 'The new generations lack any character or
self discipline and it shows.' I am one of those who waited... I am 31 yrs
old, just got married a year ago, recently impregnated, and considered to be
very successful in my career (above average for my age). IN NO WAY SHAPE OR
FORM does this mean I lack character or self discipline. IN FACT, I would say I
have a lot of self discipline and character as indicated by who I am today.
BACK OFF!!!!
Arm of Orion | 10:09 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Oh come on, Person who can't give out at least an internet name so that I
can respond properly, the thugs in the abuse cases view their victim not a
person but as a trophy. As an outlet for their desires just like porn was. The
last I checked milk and cheese are not aphrodisiacs.
AL | 10:10 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
My son-in-law has worked in law enforcement investigating abuse cases. In almost
all the cases pornography was involved. As with drugs, most people tell
themselves, "I can handle it."
We come to this earth pre-wired to learn, whether it be things of the light or the dark. Porn certainly is not of the light and will not make us better people.
As an after thought: It has surprised me that the Marriotts have been held up by the leadership of the L.D.S. church as being such role models, and yet, they are one of the largest purveyors of pornography and alcohol in the nation. Where is the outrage?
We come to this earth pre-wired to learn, whether it be things of the light or the dark. Porn certainly is not of the light and will not make us better people.
As an after thought: It has surprised me that the Marriotts have been held up by the leadership of the L.D.S. church as being such role models, and yet, they are one of the largest purveyors of pornography and alcohol in the nation. Where is the outrage?
Annonymous | 10:26 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
It is ironic that the LDS pride themselves on being so much more godly than
everyone when Provo, UT has the highest rate of rented porn from hotel/motel
pay-per-view entertainment systems than any other city/town in the country.
Porn is destructive to any relationship with your spouse. It is not right to
compare your spouse with previous sexual encounters, inclunding what you find in
porn. According to the Bible, thinking about a woman lustfully, who is not your
wife, is considered adultary, a sin. We are all sinners and need the mercy and
grace we can find in JESUS CHRIST, the one and only true Son of GOD. A
person's focus should be on their spouse, not the glossy images they find
in porn. Sex is about experimenting with your spouse and being one with them.
If you need porn to get arroused then you need to talk with your spouse on how
you can spice things up. If you use porn and then have sex with your spouse,
you are just using them. You may be having sex with them, but you are making
love to the porn you were using. Porn is everyone's problem, just look at
TV.
MTM | 10:28 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
I always find it interesting that the majority of people who accept something
bad (like drugs, homosexuality, or porn) are those who not only advacate it but
use it in their own lives. Of course they would say it's ok, to disagree
would make them hypocrites and could possibly force them to do something
hard...like give up their addiction and release themselves from it's
destructive influence.
Interesting | 10:32 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
I think this was an excellent article. it was objective and it asked some
important questions
What is the effect of relationships when 90% of men accept porn but only 50% of women do?
How do parents who do not want their kids to view pornography teach their children to make that choice?
The thing about Porn that no one can argue with is that it is ADDICTIVE. Many have said "well not everybody, and perhaps only a few, have a serious problem with it." WHEN DID THAT BECOME OK????
People cry and scream every day about safety violations and contaminated food and a little lead in toys because it makes a few people sick but in the same breath insist that people should be "free" partake of something that for many people will literally destroy their lives!!! and not just their lives but lives of anyone in their way as they fall!
Now I am not going to claim that making everything that can clinically be called "addictive" should be illegal.
But where is the personal responsibility?
Too bad... ( 9:46 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007) is absolutely right. And focusing on SELF GRATIFICATION = SELF DESTRUCTION.
What is the effect of relationships when 90% of men accept porn but only 50% of women do?
How do parents who do not want their kids to view pornography teach their children to make that choice?
The thing about Porn that no one can argue with is that it is ADDICTIVE. Many have said "well not everybody, and perhaps only a few, have a serious problem with it." WHEN DID THAT BECOME OK????
People cry and scream every day about safety violations and contaminated food and a little lead in toys because it makes a few people sick but in the same breath insist that people should be "free" partake of something that for many people will literally destroy their lives!!! and not just their lives but lives of anyone in their way as they fall!
Now I am not going to claim that making everything that can clinically be called "addictive" should be illegal.
But where is the personal responsibility?
Too bad... ( 9:46 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007) is absolutely right. And focusing on SELF GRATIFICATION = SELF DESTRUCTION.
Skeptic | 10:33 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
While I don't advocate porn as a good thing people are REALLLY jumping to
conclusions. There is NO proof, that porn leads people to perpetuate abuse.
There is anecdotal evidence, like Ted Bundy, but that is not any kind of proof.
The article itself claims how big the industry is which means many, many
millions of people are using it. If porn creates Ted Bundy then we would have
scores and scores of Ted Bundy.
Any behavioral scientist will tell you the #1 factor, by far, in sexual abuse cases is that the person doing the abuse was once abused. Cops don't see that when they raid a home but such anecdotal evidence as "oh we found porn" isn't evidence at all.
I am not pro-porn but lets keep things in perspective.
Any behavioral scientist will tell you the #1 factor, by far, in sexual abuse cases is that the person doing the abuse was once abused. Cops don't see that when they raid a home but such anecdotal evidence as "oh we found porn" isn't evidence at all.
I am not pro-porn but lets keep things in perspective.
Anonymous | 10:52 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
yelling back of is self discipline?
don | 10:56 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Just look at the crap on TV networks now. It was called soft-core porn 30 years
ago. Now that is all Madison ave uses to sell is sex, because its all about the
money. They are selling to a culture that is addicted to porn/sex. Porn
producers are just like drug dealers, they know they have a product that is
addictive and gives a few minutes of relief from reality. The media ignores the
drug addicts and porn addicts that shake off the chains of slavery because its
bad for business. In every organization regardless of values there are slaves
to porn and drugs until they get help they will continue to destroy their lives
and the lives around them. At the job productivity suffers and in the home the
family suffers. Addicts are slaves and the chains are drugs and porn. I hate to
see what happens when these college girls become parents.
Jake | 11:02 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Come on all Mormons look at porn they are just to scared to tell their wifes or
bishop. That’s when porn becomes a problem when you hide it.
Anonymous | 11:07 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
The real problem with porn isn't that it exists--people have been creating
porn since cavemen could draw on walls.
The problem is that it is so accessible and completely unregulated. If you are an adult and you want to use it, fine. That is your choice.
But kids are being exposed to it and forming ideas, attitudes, and behaviors about what sex is, what intamacy is, what is sexuality, and what a woman's or man's role is in sex.
Suddenly, people are seeking out unheathly and unhappy relationships and wondering why they do. It's because that is what pornography taught them to do and seek out.
You are what you eat!
The problem is that it is so accessible and completely unregulated. If you are an adult and you want to use it, fine. That is your choice.
But kids are being exposed to it and forming ideas, attitudes, and behaviors about what sex is, what intamacy is, what is sexuality, and what a woman's or man's role is in sex.
Suddenly, people are seeking out unheathly and unhappy relationships and wondering why they do. It's because that is what pornography taught them to do and seek out.
You are what you eat!
Anonymous | 11:11 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Try looking at any serial killer and find one that wasn't highly addicted
to porn.
Jake | 11:15 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
"The study of 813 college students at six American colleges and
universities � BYU was not included" Just
wondering...where are these colleges and universities located?
Did they just go to Utah State, Utah, Weber State, SUU, & Dixie? If it's just from Utah, it's kind of skewed.
And to answer the question as to why they left BYU out, do you really think anyone would take the survey seriously if they included one of the most socially conservative schools in the nation?
But really, I would like to know if this study went across the country to different schools, or if it's predominantly just schools out west.
Did they just go to Utah State, Utah, Weber State, SUU, & Dixie? If it's just from Utah, it's kind of skewed.
And to answer the question as to why they left BYU out, do you really think anyone would take the survey seriously if they included one of the most socially conservative schools in the nation?
But really, I would like to know if this study went across the country to different schools, or if it's predominantly just schools out west.
ben | 11:20 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
In a free society responsible adults should be able to chose to engage in
certain behaviors that may or may not be destructive to them. Alcohol and
tobacco cause massive suffering and expenses, but a free society demands that
they be permitted to. We have reasonable laws and regulations in place to help
limit these drugs' effects. Pornography should be no different. We
haven't done enough to restrict access to children and minors, and we
clearly haven't done enough to educate people about the dangers inherent in
pornography use.
As far as the younger generation accepting pornography more, I beleive that this is because the younger generation tends to me more individualistic. The younger generations tend to believe that individuals should make their own choices. This is not a bad thing. But I agree that there is a problem with younger groups being more self-centered and less educated in terms of things like finance, sex, and manners etc.
We need to make a better effort to educate people about pornography and its danger. And I beleive it's time for comprehensive government action to restrict access of children to internet porn. Parents really can't cope well by themselves.
As far as the younger generation accepting pornography more, I beleive that this is because the younger generation tends to me more individualistic. The younger generations tend to believe that individuals should make their own choices. This is not a bad thing. But I agree that there is a problem with younger groups being more self-centered and less educated in terms of things like finance, sex, and manners etc.
We need to make a better effort to educate people about pornography and its danger. And I beleive it's time for comprehensive government action to restrict access of children to internet porn. Parents really can't cope well by themselves.
A Guy | 11:21 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
I just read an interesting article by Naomi Wolf. It was about her opinion as
to the effect of porn. Her research (aparently based on interviews with college
students) suggests that porn numbs the senses and perverts reality of normal
bodies and normal sex. It conditions us with massive and perverted sexual
stimuli that numbs and diminishes normal relationships. College girls feel like
they need to compete with perfect porn stars and they always feel inferior.
They feel like they need to do what the guy wants and not what they want.
As a man who has dabbled in porn myself, I think that it does cause a difficult to percieve perversion on the user. Users think it is helping but in reality it is damaging. Sex is not evil, it is good but it absolutly needs to remain sacred.
As a man who has dabbled in porn myself, I think that it does cause a difficult to percieve perversion on the user. Users think it is helping but in reality it is damaging. Sex is not evil, it is good but it absolutly needs to remain sacred.
RE: To Bad | 11:21 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
I believe porn is dangerous and can cause harm to those who don't use it
cautiously, but I also believe Porn like everything else does have it's
place. I am 28 years old, active LDS, happily married and I have one child. My
wife and I can't have children on our own so we have resorted to invitro
fertilization, during each process I am required to "give my deposit"
in a cup, which is greatly aided by porn. When I come out of that room I
don't think of it or look at porn, but when it is needed and in the right
place it is very necessary. My wife knows and approves of my looking at porn in
this situation.
Porn is not for everyone and it is not good for use all of the time, but like almost everything there is a time and use for it. I am not addicted, I don't download or watch pornographic movies and I am not focused on "self gratification" I am focused on furthering my family.
For those of you who are clearly better than me because I have reason to occasionally look at porn step off your hight horse.
Porn is not for everyone and it is not good for use all of the time, but like almost everything there is a time and use for it. I am not addicted, I don't download or watch pornographic movies and I am not focused on "self gratification" I am focused on furthering my family.
For those of you who are clearly better than me because I have reason to occasionally look at porn step off your hight horse.
Sub-Odeon | 11:22 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
I'll be honest. I was a porn hound as a teen. And I grew up in a pretty
conservative LDS household. I learned to be pretty sneaky with those copies of
Playboy and Penthouse. I can't imagine what it would have been like to
have the internet access today's teens have.
In some ways, I think the pressure on young LDS men especially, from parents and church leadership, backfires. It certainly did in my case. The more the leadership harped on pornography and masturbation, the more all of us in the 12-16 year old group took it as a running joke that porn and masturbation were something all of us had/did, we just never admitted it to our Bishop or our parents.
I will say that being too into porn caused some problems when I eventually got married. So while I don't think it's realistic for young men to stay away from porn altogether, I would warn against overindulgence, or you can be asking for trouble when you have a spouse.
Above all, open communication, between spouses, among parents and children, should be paramount. Sweeping it under the rug is a mistake!
In some ways, I think the pressure on young LDS men especially, from parents and church leadership, backfires. It certainly did in my case. The more the leadership harped on pornography and masturbation, the more all of us in the 12-16 year old group took it as a running joke that porn and masturbation were something all of us had/did, we just never admitted it to our Bishop or our parents.
I will say that being too into porn caused some problems when I eventually got married. So while I don't think it's realistic for young men to stay away from porn altogether, I would warn against overindulgence, or you can be asking for trouble when you have a spouse.
Above all, open communication, between spouses, among parents and children, should be paramount. Sweeping it under the rug is a mistake!
enough is enough | 11:24 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
I am an LDS Bishop and have been for 5.5 yrs. What I have seen in both LDS and
non LDS porn addicts is enough.. Justification is the tell tell sign of someone
who knows things are wrong and yet endulge anyway. It is a form of hiding.
Finger pointing, blaming and arguing are all forms of hiding, but justification
of any behaviors such as this is a very dangerous position to be in. Defend it
all you want. I have seen its effect in teenage boys. I have seens its effect in
marrieages not a few, I have seen the victims of it's perpetrators as they
have been reduced from the grandure that is woman to a piece of meat only there
to gratify ones selfishness. Woman after woman reporting feelings of filthiness
in a marriage where the man is an addict. I have seen enough. I have felt
enough, and I have had enough. You may express your justifications all you want,
but only you know in the end how fulfilled and happy you are with human
relations.. THe day will come when your life will be empty. Your contributions
to society will be known..regret is then yours.
Addictive | 11:31 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
I had a family member go through a drug and alcohol rehab center and she told me
that in her group meetings that sex and porn addiction is the worst of all. I
didnt really understand that until a great point was made to me. If you are a
drug addict you can try and go cold turkey and get it out of your system. There
is no way to get porn or sex off your brain. Your brain isnt a computer hard
drive that you can just wipe clean. Scary stuff.
Sub-Odeon | 11:34 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
I think one huge mistake many women make is to freak out when they discover
their son, boyfriend, or husband has porn, or views it on-line. As if your
male(s) in your lives didn't have enough reason to be secretive? Having a
cow over the porn is quickest way to ensure the problem gets worse.
My advice, for females, is to be a) conversational and b) non-judgmental. Caught your husband with porn? Don't flip out like he's having an affair. Find out what he gets from porn that he's not getting from his marriage. Fix it. Spice up the sex life with a little lingerie. Maybe even (gasp!) go to the gym and lose some pounds? That's true for males as well as females. When couples turn to "alternatives" for sexual satisfaction, it simply means that one or both partners are failing to communicate and put forth effort, to look good physically and be healthy, to be cooperative and exploratory in regards to sex, sexual thrills, fantasies, etc.
God made men and women that they might cleave unto each other and become one flesh. Explore this with your husband or wife. Make it fun. Enjoy it! God wants you to!
My advice, for females, is to be a) conversational and b) non-judgmental. Caught your husband with porn? Don't flip out like he's having an affair. Find out what he gets from porn that he's not getting from his marriage. Fix it. Spice up the sex life with a little lingerie. Maybe even (gasp!) go to the gym and lose some pounds? That's true for males as well as females. When couples turn to "alternatives" for sexual satisfaction, it simply means that one or both partners are failing to communicate and put forth effort, to look good physically and be healthy, to be cooperative and exploratory in regards to sex, sexual thrills, fantasies, etc.
God made men and women that they might cleave unto each other and become one flesh. Explore this with your husband or wife. Make it fun. Enjoy it! God wants you to!
Alarming | 11:39 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Google did a study and the state that searched porn related keywords the most,
Utah. Not suprising being a closed minded state. It is to accessible for
everyone with a connection to the internet.
Hello | 11:41 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007
Hi, I never write on these, but I had to say one thing. I am totally,
completely against pornography. But I find it interesting that people still
think that women don't go for looks as much as men do. That is an old
wives tale. I dated a lot of guys that I couldn't marry for one
reason...not physically attracted to them. Finally, women are allowed to admit
that they, too, like their men to be handsome, and they do care about physical
attraction. I am proud to have married my husband, not only because I thought
he was nice, smart, and wonderful...but because I liked to look at him, I
thought he was so hot looking and attractive. Why is it a surprise that women
have those feelings, too?
Again, I do not believe pornography is acceptable in any way. I do think that women feel more likely to admit that physical attraction is important to them now than they did 20 years ago.
Again, I do not believe pornography is acceptable in any way. I do think that women feel more likely to admit that physical attraction is important to them now than they did 20 years ago.
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