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Presidential Issues | 12:33 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
That's nice... might get him elected the head of a congregation of
Baptists... but what has it to do with the issues?
Huckabee will lose to Clinton | 12:47 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Mike Huckabee--conservative republican; Lawrence O'Donnell--liberal
democrat-->Both IGNORANT jerks!
Too bad that people are either so simple-minded, that they grasp a random piece of mormon doctrine, throw it out there, and are never able to first include it in any kind of context. Maybe they should do some studying first, and actually try to understand church teachings before they try to comment on it. This is akin to ripping on any church's doctrine without first trying to understand it.
Huckabee's "awe shucks", "I'm a baptist" campaing will lose! I sure hope no Mormons vote for him if he is the Republican candidate.
O'Donnell's study seems limited to anti-mormon websites. What a jerk!!! Get off your agenda, O'Donell.
Too bad that people are either so simple-minded, that they grasp a random piece of mormon doctrine, throw it out there, and are never able to first include it in any kind of context. Maybe they should do some studying first, and actually try to understand church teachings before they try to comment on it. This is akin to ripping on any church's doctrine without first trying to understand it.
Huckabee's "awe shucks", "I'm a baptist" campaing will lose! I sure hope no Mormons vote for him if he is the Republican candidate.
O'Donnell's study seems limited to anti-mormon websites. What a jerk!!! Get off your agenda, O'Donell.
Thank you Hickabee | 1:05 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
I am a Mormon, and I don't go around ripping on Baptists, Agnostics,
Atheists, Catholics, whatever....
I don't mind discussing DOCTRINES with people of other faiths, but I don't like ripping on other churches, and I don't think it is appropriate for presidential candidates to comment on the doctrine of other faiths.
I don't mind discussing DOCTRINES with people of other faiths, but I don't like ripping on other churches, and I don't think it is appropriate for presidential candidates to comment on the doctrine of other faiths.
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Mr. T | 1:16 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
O'Donnell might have gotten his information off anti-Mormon website, but
isn't it the truth?
MTN | 1:22 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Romney's line about tolerance being a shallow concept if we only tolerate
those with whom we agree is applicable here. I'm sure O'Donnell
thinks he is a progressive of the most principled sort: most accepting of
alternative lifestyles and diversity... but what kind of intolerant bigotry is
this! It's very upsetting to hear that from a self-professed liberal. I
am tired of intolerant, judgmental people calling other people intolerant and
judgmental. I am not a Romney fan, but I like his line about tolerance.
Patrick | 1:28 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
I wish Romney's people or some of you media types with some influence would
set the record straight. Mormons are some of the least racist people around and
have been since the beginning. Joseph Smith was never pro-slavery, thats an
outright lie. The early saints were mainly northerners who were against
slavery. Joseph even ordained a few African American Men to the priesthood.
And Black people have always been able to be baptised and welcomed in the
church. The Priesthood issue is a story for another time, but keep in mind that
God didn't give the Priesthood to all the Israelites in the Old testiment,
only Aaron and the Levites, was he racists?
Mormon Democrat | 1:31 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
I have to say I am not surprised by Huckabee starting to use the Mormon-card to
further his campaign, now that he is gaining some press. You can never trust
the religious right and Romney should have learned that by now.
At the same time, I have to say O'Donnell's comments are about as inappropriate and uncalled for and unbecoming of a true Democrat as I have heard in a long time. Taking shots generally at a whole religion along with individuals is absolutely ridiculous and disgusting. He is practicing exactly what he is preaching against and it demonstrates that he has actually done very little research on the topic, aside from the tabloids and perhaps a few Hollywood friends of his. What a loser.
At the same time, I have to say O'Donnell's comments are about as inappropriate and uncalled for and unbecoming of a true Democrat as I have heard in a long time. Taking shots generally at a whole religion along with individuals is absolutely ridiculous and disgusting. He is practicing exactly what he is preaching against and it demonstrates that he has actually done very little research on the topic, aside from the tabloids and perhaps a few Hollywood friends of his. What a loser.
Why? | 1:32 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Why do people write things about others and their beliefs when they have no idea
what they are talking about? A little research on Mormonism would eliminate a
lot of questions and hatered.
Anonymous | 1:40 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Baptists believe all forms of dance will send you to hell! Muslims believe that
you either join them or die according to Mohammed! Go Obama! Catholics believe
you can do whatever the heck you want as long as you go and talk to a Priest
behind a cage and confess to him your sins then all is well. Then you can do
this all over again! Evangelicals believe that God places words in your mouth
and then you can speak in tongues while rolling around on the floor and no one
knows what the heck you are saying! Right! Church of Christ believes if you
have a bus in the parking lot you are a liberal church and going to hell!
Sounds ignorant but same goes for all of the tidbits people are grabbing and throwing at Romney as if that is what the Mormon Church believes.
This can be said for all religions if you are a bigot! If you want to know what a church believes it is best to study their doctrine rather than their anti doctrine written by other churches.
Shame of the bigots!
Sounds ignorant but same goes for all of the tidbits people are grabbing and throwing at Romney as if that is what the Mormon Church believes.
This can be said for all religions if you are a bigot! If you want to know what a church believes it is best to study their doctrine rather than their anti doctrine written by other churches.
Shame of the bigots!
Relevance? | 1:43 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Can't help but wonder what Mitt's, or any other candidate's,
religion has to do with their ability to be a good president. We need a person
with good morale standards as President. Mitt meets that qualification. I
believe he is also a good businessman, and a good leader. The fact that he is
active in the Church adds to his morale strength, but it isn't the only
thing that should be considered. I wish the evangelicals and Southern Baptists,
and whoever else, would either do some UNBIASED studying, or simply be quiet
when it comes to Mitt's religion. Their ignorance is showing. Is Mitt
qualified to be President or not? Not, "Is Mitt qualified to be the first
Mormon President?" And please, polygamy was banned over 100 years ago! Get
over it already! Jeffs isn't a Mormon. We believe in Christ, we are
Christians. Our perceptions are different, but we have the same goals. Yes,
Christ and Satan are brothers in the spirit, but Satan chose a different path.
Again, what does that have to do with a Presidential election? I suggest
everyone should focus on the relevant issues, not differing religious beliefs,
and move forward. Play a different note!
Carlyle Parker | 2:01 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
When did Mike Huckabee permit a Black to
join his congregation and what percentage of his congregation was Black when he retired?
join his congregation and what percentage of his congregation was Black when he retired?
Finally the truth comes out! | 2:11 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
I'm glad to see explicitly what all these pundits and candidates have meant
all along about Mitt explaining the "relationship to his faith". It
means that these people all hate Mormons and want to know if Mitt really
associates himself with the LDS church.
It's great to get all this stuff on the table. The Baptist church and so many others are so completely full of hatred and lies about the LDS faith that it borders on HATE CRIME.
If Mitt has to come out on all LDS doctrine, then I want to see it on a national panel where ALL the candidates air their religious views and affiliations.
It's great to get all this stuff on the table. The Baptist church and so many others are so completely full of hatred and lies about the LDS faith that it borders on HATE CRIME.
If Mitt has to come out on all LDS doctrine, then I want to see it on a national panel where ALL the candidates air their religious views and affiliations.
Fred | 3:41 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Anonymous | 1:40 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007, I don't understand your line,
"Muslims believe that you either join them or die according to Mohammed! Go
Obama!"
Obama is a Christian. Apparently you have bought the Rush Limbaugh Obama-Osama-Obama-Osama line and have become confused, just as Rush wanted. Make no mistake, Obama is Christian, but the Republicans want you to believe otherwise in an attempt to use religious bigotry to their advantage.
Obama is a Christian. Apparently you have bought the Rush Limbaugh Obama-Osama-Obama-Osama line and have become confused, just as Rush wanted. Make no mistake, Obama is Christian, but the Republicans want you to believe otherwise in an attempt to use religious bigotry to their advantage.
Disingenuous | 3:46 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Huckleberry knows quite well all of the nuances of LDS doctrine and will be
pinching off sly questions like this regularly. Baptists evangelists are
preoccupied with what they see as the "evil" LDS doctrines but rarely
bother to study them in a whole hearted way. Any human sincerely seeking Jesus
can receive a testimony of the Restoration, but all this man wishes to do is
tear down. I could do the same but to what end?
GWB | 3:49 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Gee, people in Utah are upset that Baptist beliefs are being espoused by the
rising star of the GOP?
Think about it, Utah is about the only state that where over 50% still approves of the job Bush is doing. There are only 6-8 million members of the LDS church in the US and many of those are kids that cant vote.
Huckabee knows that he can criticize the Mormon faith and alienate the Mormons without losing much nationally.
Besides, he knows that when Utahn's get it the voting both, most would vote for an anti-Mormon Baptist preacher that is Republican that vote for a Democrat (Even though it IS possible to be a Mormon and a Democrat).
This is the calculus that Huckabee is using, he knows that Utah would vote for him over any Democrat even if he calls you all cultist. I wish I was wrong on this, but one must ask would you vote for Obama over Huckabee?
Think about it, Utah is about the only state that where over 50% still approves of the job Bush is doing. There are only 6-8 million members of the LDS church in the US and many of those are kids that cant vote.
Huckabee knows that he can criticize the Mormon faith and alienate the Mormons without losing much nationally.
Besides, he knows that when Utahn's get it the voting both, most would vote for an anti-Mormon Baptist preacher that is Republican that vote for a Democrat (Even though it IS possible to be a Mormon and a Democrat).
This is the calculus that Huckabee is using, he knows that Utah would vote for him over any Democrat even if he calls you all cultist. I wish I was wrong on this, but one must ask would you vote for Obama over Huckabee?
MT in MD | 3:56 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Who DIDN'T see this coming? The exceedingly upright,
looking-out-for-the-common-man national media, which apparently are the arbiters
of all that is good, true and important in national politics, has been pushing
Mitt to make "The Mormon Speech" in order to finally move "The
Mormon Question" off the table. By having now made the speech, Romney has
opened the door to exactly this kind of silliness. Rather than continuing to
take the principled stand that "The church I belong to will not affect or
influence the way I would govern as President, please move along to the next
question," Mitt has pretty much made his religion an issue relevant to the
campaign with the speech. Now that it is on the table, anyone with a crackpot
notion can put it out there and attack him and the church. This hurts
Romney's campaign. I believe the media is on the Huckabee bandwagon these
days because of their cynical belief that the American electorate will not elect
a religious nutjob--which Huckabee is now beginning to look like. Mitt, on the
other hand, is a serious, religious guy who would make a great President--and
that scares the great and powerful media.
DJY | 4:22 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
A canidates relogion should have NOTHING what so ever to do with wether they
will be a good President or not. The canidates should ALL focus on the issues
and not on each others religious beliefs. I happen to be a Mormon, but I will
not vote for Mitt Romney as he is a Republican and I am a Democrat. That is the
ONLY reason I will not vote for him. I do agree that before someone comments on
someone's religion that they should do at least a little research first!!
But the Mormon Church is Racist | 4:40 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Dear "Thank you Hickabee"
Let's discuss that DOCTRINE of the LDS church. Specifically, the doctrine of institutionalized racism.
The basis for institutionalized racisim of the Mormon Church comes from the Pearl of Great Price and various revalations/quotations by Mormon leaders in official church publications, which are considered scripture. (And yes, justification for some of it is drawn from Biblical passages too. Christianity and the bible are not perfect or immune from such critism.)
The Mormon Church did not permit black people to participate in the uber secret (supposedly essential "saving ordinences") of the temple, denied black people to ability obtain the Mormon priesthood, and denied black people positions of leadership--until the late 1970s! The church practiced this on doctrinal grounds, believing that god specifically did not want black people to have the same rights as non-black Mormons.
I find it very revealing that on the issue of racial equality, the Mormon church was way behind the times. And I find it very sad that many Mormons are unable to come to grips with the fact that their religion practiced instututionalized racism. But I am not surprised this is happening in the "I'm not sure we teach that" era.
Let's discuss that DOCTRINE of the LDS church. Specifically, the doctrine of institutionalized racism.
The basis for institutionalized racisim of the Mormon Church comes from the Pearl of Great Price and various revalations/quotations by Mormon leaders in official church publications, which are considered scripture. (And yes, justification for some of it is drawn from Biblical passages too. Christianity and the bible are not perfect or immune from such critism.)
The Mormon Church did not permit black people to participate in the uber secret (supposedly essential "saving ordinences") of the temple, denied black people to ability obtain the Mormon priesthood, and denied black people positions of leadership--until the late 1970s! The church practiced this on doctrinal grounds, believing that god specifically did not want black people to have the same rights as non-black Mormons.
I find it very revealing that on the issue of racial equality, the Mormon church was way behind the times. And I find it very sad that many Mormons are unable to come to grips with the fact that their religion practiced instututionalized racism. But I am not surprised this is happening in the "I'm not sure we teach that" era.
true blue | 4:44 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
O' Donnell doesn't know what he's talking about. The blacks and
the priesthood didn't start until Brigham Young. People always focus on
what is bad instead of what is good. I was really liking Huckabee until this.
HOwever, it will probably gain him support in certain arenas. I am suprised
that he doesn't know that much about mormons though.
lamonte | 4:54 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
As a practicing Mormon and a life long Democrat I must say I am stunned, shocked
and disgusted by the comments of Lawrence O'Donnell. For some time I have
seen him as a voice of reason on the otherwise rediculously right slanted
"McGlaughlin Group" but that ends today. I will be spending some of
my day tracking his contact information and expressing my disgust to him
personally.
As for Huckabee and the religious right - is this surprising behavior to anyone?
As for Huckabee and the religious right - is this surprising behavior to anyone?
Max | 5:14 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
I am amazed at how hateful, uninformed and openly biggoted a guy as smart as
Lawrence O'Donnell is. Do a little research Mr. O'Donnell!
Danny Chipman | 5:28 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
It is always interesting when people cite the allowance of blacks to hold the
priesthood beginning in 1978 as a racist tenet. By O'Donnell's own
logic, isn't Christianity also "racist"? In the New Testament,
Christ forbade his apostles to preach to non-Jews or allow them to joing His
church, until the proper time. Only He knew when that would be.
Svoboda | 5:32 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
People take an LDS belief and then twist it to suit their less than honorable
purposes. Shamne on them all, for they are purposefully lying to others. OK,
whose the "real" brother of the Devil? Those who emulate him while on
Earth.
james stowe | 5:47 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Mitt and the LDS don't want the truth known.
There is no way he can keep the LDS faith out of his decisions.
The LDS have always been political not neutral.
Don't you mormons remember years ago that in every meeting you were told to vote against the ERA amendment, LOTTERY, and not to vote to overturn BLUE LAWS (SHOPPING ON SUNDAYS) along with many other issues.
I SAY AND BELIEVE THESE THINGS......AMEN.
There is no way he can keep the LDS faith out of his decisions.
The LDS have always been political not neutral.
Don't you mormons remember years ago that in every meeting you were told to vote against the ERA amendment, LOTTERY, and not to vote to overturn BLUE LAWS (SHOPPING ON SUNDAYS) along with many other issues.
I SAY AND BELIEVE THESE THINGS......AMEN.
Satan's Brother | 5:57 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Oh boy! Here we go again. Deceptions, twisting half truths and attacking the
LDS Church. Yup, as a Mormon I believe that God created all beings spiritually
and in that sense we are all brothers and sisters. Some churches conveniently
lump "Angels" into a separate category of God's creation and
teach that Satan is a "fallen Angel". In the end most every church
teaches that Satan is a creation of God. If we are all creations of God are we
not somehow related spiritaually to Christ, God's only begotton in the
flesh? My experience is that every challenge to doctrine has a reasonable
explanation. In the end it is a matter of faith. Why can't people see
bigotry and hate for what it is?
Cliff Goodman | 6:02 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
With all due respect for our friends of other denominations: this is what
Huckabee's ascent in the polls is all about. The Born-Again Christians have
accelerated their preaching from the pulpit (which they have done for many
years) about the evils of LDS theology. Huckabee, as one of their own, offers an
alternative, and this fact is being exploited.
While the LDS Church is very careful to stay out of politics, other churches, or at least their ministers (whose livelihood is, after all, threatened by the LDS system of Church leadership), don't seem to have the same scruples!
While the LDS Church is very careful to stay out of politics, other churches, or at least their ministers (whose livelihood is, after all, threatened by the LDS system of Church leadership), don't seem to have the same scruples!
AZMike | 6:04 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
I believe America will not stand for this! Just about everyone here in this
great country has an LDS neighbor, co-worker, etc, and sees the lives that they
live. Those people will realize that the hatred being spouted by these folks is
simply un-true and hopefully will go to the polls and vote their conscience.
Timj | 6:04 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Watch...if Huckabee is chosen as the Republican candidate, Utah will vote him in
for President rather than vote for a Democrat.
Diane | 6:05 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Amen
Thank you
Thank you
Mr B | 6:06 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
It sounds like Mr Harry Reid, Democrat, needs to give a LDS Church history
lesson to Mr O'Donnell. I find it very odd that you can have the most
powerful man in Congress be a Mormon but not in the White House. Mormons seem to
be able to serve everywhere but the White House. Why??? Well that is because the
other positions are not elected by the people at a national level. A Supreme
Court justice, a cabinent level position like Sec Leavitt, or a congressman or
woman to lead the House or Senate or any comittee therein. It appears that
America as a whole has a very hyprocritcal view on freedom of religion.
DON'T persecute my religion but I will use my right of free speech to
persecute others. So be it, but I would dare say that the True Author of our
rights will have something different to say about our freedoms in the coming
years for our country if we continue to live our lives like that and He will
tell us in catastrophic fashion.
Thomas | 6:16 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Look at the LDS History...there is no doubt that the teaching of Satan and Jesus
as brothers is prevelant and intentional.
maybelle | 6:19 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Huckabee and O'Donnell are grasping at straws. Mitt is a very impressive
looking person, intelligent and definitely presidential material. Huckabee and
O'Donnell can't find anything negative about him and so they resort to
anti-mormon tactics.
These are men that we can't trust. They have really taken the low road. Huckabee is a bigot and if he is the republican candidate, I will vote democratic for the first time in my life.
These are men that we can't trust. They have really taken the low road. Huckabee is a bigot and if he is the republican candidate, I will vote democratic for the first time in my life.
Get it out in the open | 6:21 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
I made a post 4 hours ago which had nothing offensive...but I do not see it
here. This has happened before. Who is censoring comments at the D News?
The gist: that we finally see what kind of explanation these pundits have been asking for - whether or not Mitt really believes his wacky religion. Let's have a panel and ask all the candidates a list of questions about their faith and whether or not they adhere.
I think this is all becoming quite transparent as hate and it makes me sick that we have this in our country in this day and age. I hold the extremists in both parties accountable as well as the lazy sound-bite-driven media.
The gist: that we finally see what kind of explanation these pundits have been asking for - whether or not Mitt really believes his wacky religion. Let's have a panel and ask all the candidates a list of questions about their faith and whether or not they adhere.
I think this is all becoming quite transparent as hate and it makes me sick that we have this in our country in this day and age. I hold the extremists in both parties accountable as well as the lazy sound-bite-driven media.
Anonymous | 6:24 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
There was not bashing on Huckabee's part. He asked a question about LDS
believes and clearly stated he did not know much about the religion. Where is
the bashing?
Debate question | 6:25 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Mike Huckabee--Conservative republican! ha.
Someone should ask him if he believes LDS/Mormonism is a 'Cult'?...
I would love to see him try to squirm/stagger out of that one.
What would his conservative college educated supporters think of someone that has hang-ups toward other religions, could he be trusted with world problems?
Someone should ask him if he believes LDS/Mormonism is a 'Cult'?...
I would love to see him try to squirm/stagger out of that one.
What would his conservative college educated supporters think of someone that has hang-ups toward other religions, could he be trusted with world problems?
O'Donnell is a Bigot | 6:30 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
This bigotry and hatred just reconfirms my beliefs in the restoration, the true
and every lasting gospel, and living prophets. Someone should create a reaction
poll to Mitt's speech. i bet most Americans felt warm fuzzies when hearing
it.
Txmistake | 6:36 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Huckabee shows a considerable lack of knowledge with regard to religion and even
the Bible. He claims to be a preacher but does not give the other person the
right to believe as he chooses. It's clear he is biased and will not get my
vote.
Reenie | 6:41 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Of course, Mr. Huckabee. Don't you believe that all of God's children
are brothers and sisters? Guess that would include Satan. As for Mr. Reid,
what a crummy example as a member of the church. I'm sorry to say that if
Mr. Huckabee becomes the candidate I will have to vote for him. ANYONE would be
better than any Democrat.
BOO MSNBC! | 6:43 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
I remember when Al Sharpton said some pretty stupid things about Mormons and was
BLASTED by the media. Now that one of its own is doing the same thing (even
worse in rhetoric) there's no outcry or punishment. This O'Donnel
person is an influencer (politics, public perception, etc.) I think those who
believe in decency and right should offer to give him an education.
curious george | 6:50 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
My father taught me growing up in the 50's and 60's that I would
likely see the day when the priesthood would be available to all worthy males.
He was right, and our family celebrated a much expected event. The restoration
occurred step by step by revelation, and the church continues today to evolve by
revelation. I'm so grateful for continuing revelation. I would still like
to have the Protestants discuss what life after death will be like. Does anyone
know what you believe? I wonder if there will be only one idea on this, based
on the Bible, of course.
O Greene | 6:50 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
I am Mormon and Republican, but I do not support Mitt Romney for President. His
tenure as governor of Massachusetts gives me too much doubt about how he will
react to important political issues. I also could not support a bigot like Mike
Huckabee. Unfortunately, the leading candidate for the Republican nomination is
so liberal I might as well support a Democrat. I hope Ron Paul can gain ground
so a true Republican might have a chance.
Barry | 6:50 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Now many in Utah begin to see the value of the separation of Church and State.
Now, many Utahn's are fine and dandy with keeping religion a "personal
thing." I believe when this all shakes out, many Utahns will vote for
either Hillary or Barak, because I can never imagine either of them stooping as
low as some repubicans are in terms of a persons belief. Can you really imagine
Barack Obama asking the questions that Huckabee has? He just wouldn't do it
and as much as some of you despise Hillary, neither would she.
Peanut | 6:58 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
You could expect someone to come with these half-cocked quotes of supposed LDS
doctrine that are appearing on this site.
Frankly, you never gain the upper hand by taking a lower road, when ever you choose to attack a political opponent. Romney has nobody but himself to blame for the comments that will now come from his political ads. He chose to attack Huckabee because he apparently was trailing in the polls in Iowa. In so doing, he becomes the loser. A poor choice!
As far as the many comments that have been posted, some believing to understand the doctrine about the relationship of Satan with the sons of God, they should read Chapter 12 of Revelations and find out the basis for the LDS belief and what should also be enlightening to anyone attempting to define what that belief is. The "great dragon fought against Michael and his angels. Lucifer was in the presence of God and became Satan when he sought to "destroy the agency of man." verses 7-11 are of especial interest.
Frankly, you never gain the upper hand by taking a lower road, when ever you choose to attack a political opponent. Romney has nobody but himself to blame for the comments that will now come from his political ads. He chose to attack Huckabee because he apparently was trailing in the polls in Iowa. In so doing, he becomes the loser. A poor choice!
As far as the many comments that have been posted, some believing to understand the doctrine about the relationship of Satan with the sons of God, they should read Chapter 12 of Revelations and find out the basis for the LDS belief and what should also be enlightening to anyone attempting to define what that belief is. The "great dragon fought against Michael and his angels. Lucifer was in the presence of God and became Satan when he sought to "destroy the agency of man." verses 7-11 are of especial interest.
Sam Hofer | 6:59 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Mixing religion and politics is finally coming to the unwinnable stupidity match
that is inevitable.
Religion is personal. Politics is public.
We're going to suffer before we learn this properly.
Religion is personal. Politics is public.
We're going to suffer before we learn this properly.
MICHAEL R. LOVERIDGE, J.D. | 7:02 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Senator Harry Reid, devout Mormon and recent speaker at a devotional at Brigham
Young University in Provo, Utah: Thanks for "standing by", silently,
and saying absolutely nothing about the irrelevent (but malicious) attacks on
Romney's religion! Senator, I don't expect you to embrace
Romney's political views, but, as a major political leader, do you also
endorse the bigotry and libel against his (and your) faith?
Anonymous | 7:02 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
I think that having the LDS Church respond to Mr. Huckabee's question shows
that they will continue to be involved in Mr. Romney's business if he is
elected.
trr2 | 7:03 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Sadly, many people take the LDS church's stance against endorsing political
candidates as a stance against politics in general. I regret to inform you that
the church definitely takes a stance in policy when it comes to our
beliefs--which is why they have consistantly endorsed such causes as the true
definition of marriage, the state of the family, and the equal rights amendment.
Church leaders will not tell you from the pulpit who to vote for, but on the
policies we believe important, we have to take a stand, or else we will lose
those things we cherish.
Ted 111 | 7:08 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
The national, media-driven fixation on religion as a qualification for elective
office is absurd. The only issue should be: Who is the most qualified man (or
woman) for the job? Religion aside, who is the most capable, able, qualified
person to lead this country? Everything else is just a distraction.
Southern Baptist Hypocrisy | 7:14 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Mormons denied blacks the priesthood.
Southern Babtists hung blacks from trees. End of story.
Southern Babtists hung blacks from trees. End of story.
Religion | 7:18 a.m. Dec. 12, 2007
Do people really think that tearing others down makes them look good? The last
thing I would do is vote for, or support anyone who has to tear someone else
apart for thier faith. Our society is going down hill in a hurry! We can't
discuss health care issues or educational reform, or how to get us off foriegn
oil, we have to talk about religion. Pretty sad!
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