They're accused of wire fraud, mail fraud, conspiracy
There are more to come.....
They are finally doing something about the fraud and deception. Believe me,
this is just the tip of the iceberg.
My parents live in this neighborhood and it's ruined a nice neighborhood.
People feel uneasy, there are empty houses, oh, and higher property taxes. Even
better, one of the three the plead was an acquaintance of my parents.Anything to turn a buck I guess.
I knew these guys were doing this years ago when they were trying to get people
my neighborhood involved.
This needs to come down hard. There is so much of this going on. I'm happy that
this is finally coming to a head and those people involved should be penalized
I think innocent until proven guilty. I wish the timing of our news was pushed
back, and not reported until there is a conviction. I think it's unfortunate
for all the families involved to have this type of news at this time of the
I totally agree with bhansenjr. This is still America isnt it? Lets see if this
task force, that is desparately trying to justify their own existence, can prove
anything other than mail and wire fraud. The rest of you remind me of the witch
hunters in "Monty Python and The Holy Grail".
With regards to the timing of the news, that's right, this is about the worst
time of the year to have this sort of thing happen. We need to remember that
the indictment was unsealed by the U.S. Court, not by the news. This is a tough
thing but it is something that happens all the time. I agree with this being
the tip of the iceberg.
I know for a fact that some of these guys are totally innocent. The ring leader
is Bradley Kitchen. Some of these other guys were just victims and others knew
what he was doing and backed out. This so-called task force is just letting
everyone know that they are around.
These guys are by no means "totally innocent". They all knew what they were
getting into. In fact, many of them have been friends for years which does not
make them victims but partners and scammers together. They are all just as
guilty as Bradley Kitchen.
lets dont hang these guys prematurely...I am anxious to see what this task force
can dig up besides mail and wire charges
I hope you know the guys as well as i do before you made that stupid comment.
Some of these guys really didn't know the extent that Brad Kitchen was going
with this. Let's just wait and find out what happens in the courts and if your a
decent person i hope you'll take you premature comment back.
There is no doubt that laws were broken ... remember the movie "The Firm" Mail
Fraud / Wire Fraud is when you place a letter either in the U.S Mail or on a Fax
Machine and send it and it contains anything that is not TRUE! The Law has teeth
and the Feds will use it to make examples of these 6 persons. Federal
guidelines will most likely get each of these guys a minimum of 24 to 48 months.
They are now targets and the next thing will be THE IRS & TAX FRAUD
Play in the mud and you will get dirty. No one here is innocent. None of them
were even trying to hide the scam. Billboards, direct mail, etc... Is Franklin
"Some of these guys really didn't know the extent that Brad Kitchen was going
with this" -- Are you saying they knew that something improper was going on
but not the extent of it? The law does not look upon that situation favorably
for a defendant. If they knew improper conduct was taking place and
participated in it anyway then they have a serious problem.
It's great to see that most of the people around really know the law and have
already convicted these people. Why don't you wait until they have their day in
court and then you can make your stupid comments!
It's people like this that are to blame for the now ridiculously-inflated home
prices of Utah (they and the Californians). No wonder no one can afford their
homes here and Bankruptcy and foreclosures are amongst the highest in the
HANG ON WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY ? THESE PEOPLE ACT
LIKE THEY ARE THE COURT SYSTEM , THIS IS WHAT'S WRONG WITH AMERICA TO MANY
REALLY IGNORANT PEOPLE , LET THEM HAVE THERE DAY IN COURT !
BRAD KITCHEN IS ROTTEN. HE SCREWED OVER MY FATHER IN A BUSINESS DEAL A FEW
YEARS AGO AND GOT AWAY WITH IT!
It's hard to see all of the things that are being said abut these men. I
personally know all of them and live in Ron and Brads neighborhood, these two
men have done nothing but help the people arround them. Yes they made a mistake
but all of them are sich abouut it and feel horrible, about what happend. You
should get to know who they are befor you cast any stones. If david bolock
wouldnt have pulled the cash flow nothing would have happend and no one would
have lost money it starts and ends with him i know that for a fact. instead of
pulling people down lift them up think of the families and small children that
are involved. instead of throughing stones send encouagement and love. i thought
that was what zion was suppose to be like.
Sympathy? for what you say is "a mistake"... exactly how much did that mistake
tally to? Bank robbers that take far less money, do far more time.Sympathy is actually what they got.. a slap on the wrist! For shame, the
public should demand more!!And please leave Zion out of it.
And what happened to thou shall not steal? Or is that for non-Zion folks?
I agree with the Voice about leaving Zion out of it. I can't stand it when
people use "he was such a good neighbor and member of the church" as an excuse
for what a person does in business situations. I've been following this news
since the beginning and I'm not sure how you could be involved in this without
knowing something was wrong. I live fairly close to one of the guys and he
lives in a multi-million dollar house. If you are sophisticated enough to
afford that house, you should be sophisticated enough to live with the
consequences of your actions.
this is brad kitchens son stephen kitchen. there is no need to involve zion.
there is no need to say poor family! we are all doing great and hope to see the
market correct itself the actions of my dad and his partners were wrong. i know
what my dad did was extreamly wrong and he and now i are paying the price for
his mistake! i am happy to say his plans are to stay away from finance and real
estate when he gets out. he expresses his sorrow for all who were hurt. and the
only way for him to make it right is by his actions. as his son i hope he gets
out and makes all of these things right!! i want the record to show we all think
it was wrong he is guilty right along with my next door neighbor ron and our
family friend of 25 years david bolock. steve and my dad spent crib time
together!! sherm steves dad was my grandpas best friend. these guys arent
business partners they were friends and they all got together and did this
knowingly!! thats why
lets just let them do thir time and remember my family has lost our house and
everything else. we have nothing dave and ron have millions of dollars!! my
family has 500 buck in our savings account right now my mom workes for jet blue
and i contribute all of my money times are tought and bad things happend but
none of us are complaining you all have right to be mad we wish the best for you
all and hope nothing even remotly this bad happens to you or your family thank
you for your words we love you all!!
My heart goes out to you, Stephen. I congratulate you on your attitude. You
sound like a wonderful young man and I'm so sorry that your family has to go
Nothing new here, just some good old mormon boys working the system trying to
make a buck and keep up with the high rollers.