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Published: Tuesday, Nov. 27 2007 12:26 a.m. MST

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ma`at

I agree. What a non-controversy! Mike Sorenson's indignation at Collie's comments betray the underlying heartache of a heartbroken Ute fan. He might be more at home writing for the Trib. methinks.

Mike in Austin

I have no problem with an athlete suggesting that God will help those who do their best and "live right, on and off the field". Where Austin, fans, other athletes, and all of us need to be careful is in not letting pride enter our hearts, causing us to believe we are any better than anyone else.

Whether this is a fair statement or not, I believe that is the main reason non-BYU fans have so much animosity towards BYU fans and players... and that is because many of those that follow BYU do, in fact, believe that they are somehow better. When, in fact, we know that God loves all His children.

Mike Sorenson was correct to make the conclusion he did, and I have no problem that he published those thoughts. (We were all thinking the same thing anyway, why not put it in black and white?)

BYUBlue

If you get the video "Tradition, Spirit, Honor" Bronco talks about wanting to start the whole fireside thing before games, and tried (unsuccessfully) to get the first one going in San Diego. When none of the Stake Presidents or Bishops of the area thought that anyone would come, they let it go - and lost the game. After that they decided that no matter if anyone came or not, they would have a fireside. I like what Austin actually said, that if you do the right thing on and off the field you will be blessed. Doing the right thing on and off the field is available to every player on every team everywhere. I think that many of the Ute players have been blessed with a very good season as well. This has nothing to do with BYU being a church sponsored university, and everything to do with individuals or organizations as a whole doing the right things and being blessed (note that being blessed does not always mean winning games). If you believe in god, then this principle makes sense - if you don't then best of luck to you and your arm of flesh.

Ute Fan

"I really think it's because I'm a Mormon white kid from Brigham Young University. Anybody else says that from any other team and it's just 'how spiritual that guy is." - Austin Collie

This is exactly what I was thinking yesterday, listening to all of the idiots calling in to the radio. Athletes all over the rest of the country are free to give thanks to their "Lord and savior Jesus Christ" but in the state of Utah people freak out if a player from the Church of Jesus Christ's school tries to praise his Lord and glory his god. Given that this is a private religious university we should be disappointed if players FAIL to give thanks and praise.

...but the Utes are still going to win next year when Collie and his Cougs come into our house!

Rich

I have seen many non-LDS players give credit to the Lord for their success immediately after a football game in front of cameras and admired them for their faith and courage, at the same time realizing that there were players of equal faith on the opposing team. In fact, I have seen players kneel in prayer after games joining hands together from opposing teams. The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. Not that the Lord determines the outcome but his hand in the expression of our gifts and talents we should be able to freely express and acknowledge. It is good to see the expression of gratitude in either case.

Charles

Austin is correct.

Would it surprise Ute fans (or the press) to learn that BYU pre-law and pre-med students also pray for and expect divine help in getting into UofU law and medical schools?

All Christians, Muslims, Jews .... pray for and expect divine help.

It also is pretty clear that God doesn't help any particular team at the exclusion of other teams since no team always wins.

Football fan

I don't think the issue is his Christianity or that he was proud of his beliefs, the issue, as Mike Sorensen suggested, was that he was implying the reason why they won was because they were more righteous or deserved more of the Lord's "help". It's an issue of pride, that we're better than you, or favored by God.

Now this is assuming the article is accurately portraying both sides, based on what I read here, Collie needs to keep it on the field and leave the interviews for cooler heads. What he needed to say was that he was sorry anyone misconstrued his comments and clarify what he really meant-not attacking your critics because they take your comments for what you essentially said.

"People need to get a life" ? Sure I can understand he's upset that his comments were perhaps blown out of proportion, but he's asking for it when he starts shooting his mouth off. Maybe with the bad publicity he's caused for the "Lord's School" he won't be receiving much extra "help" in the immediate future....

Anonymous

Like it or dislike it, creating controversy is the job of OpEd writers and radio talk show hosts. I agree this is ridiculous and isn't news worthy, just like the "big" story about football fans getting in fights at or after football games...oh my!

And yet....here I am reading the piece. =)

Russ in Naperville

Way to standup for your self Austin. Don't let it distract you.

G. MCMULLIN

MR. COLLIE, YOUR RESPONSE IS VERY WELL STATED. "BRAVO"!! YOU ARE RIGHT ON TARGET. THERE IS NO SHAME IN YOUR BELIEF!

To Anonymous

Right on!!!! and Collie had right- people need to get a life. Don't bad mouth someone for having God in their life or for having faith.

AbqDave

This is crazy that this is an issue. Collie is right that if he were of another race or other religion or frankly in another state, it would be a non-issue. Sounds like some people are cranky about the L.

a_little_taller

C'mon, KFAN. Anything for ratings, huh? Of all the interviews after championships are won that start off with "First of all, I'd like to thank Jesus...", after all the crossing and pointing to the heavens after a good play in college and pro sports, you're going to be critical of Collie for acknowledging God after winning an important game?

Collie is absolutely right. It is ridiculous that you will take something like that and try to make a giant deal out of it. Any other player from any other school says something like that and it's acceptable. But because it's a BYU player, it's self-righteous? Sorry, not buying it.

To Collie: I, for one, appreciate that you recognize the hand of God in your life and aren't ashamed to publicly acknowledge His blessings. The world would be so much better if more people were willing to do so. Best regards.

mbd

Poor Collie. Mormon white kids just can't get a break here it Utah.

Next time he might just want to thank God instead on thanking himself for being righteous.

ACC-BYU fan

("That implies a higher power favors one team over another and that his team is favored for being more righteous.")
Hey, they won didn't they!

/maybe you should pray for Utah next year. heh.

********walking off dribbling a football********

Anonymous

Some people have way too much time on their hands. The game is over, go back to work and do real things in life. This is a football game for crying out loud.

Danno

Well said Austin Collie.

John in Texas

Austin was right on. Any other athlete any place in america would have been labeled a good kid. Not so for a BYU athete. We just have to face the fact that BYU is before the world in a glass encasement. Lets
just show our metal and what it's worth by by our actions on and off the football field, basketball court, socker field, ...

Bob

It's just Pat Kinahan trying to get people's attention and trying to get his name out there. It's what he does.

Barrett

Amen to Collie's response.
Quit bashing Collie!
Get a life folks!

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