He says agency has failed to act on his request to investigate
I really think that this problem stems from the mormon faith, which supports
such mindless use of force.
I agree totally with UNBELIEVABLE. What does Gardner expect. Your beating and
tassing the young ladies husband. You obviously weren't to worried about massey
or you wouldn't have walk toward your car with your hands full and back towards
the guy. Cops these days are way to trigger happy. They are way to paranoid, and
should have to have a degree in communications. UHP Gardner was way out of line.
He should be punished. He made a bad decision, and should man up and except it.
He owes massey and all of us as citizens an apologie. He was wrong, and knew he
was wrong as soon as massey hit to turf. Why did he need to shock him a second
time? He didnt, thats why. Gardner was obviously one of the guys in highschool
that got bullied around alot as a child and is trying to get back at the world,
thats all we need. Another hot headed trigger happy cop. You know, i know alot
of cops, and most of them are really good people. Even they addmit that there is
always one or two that ruin it for everyone.always one bad apple in the force.
I agree 100%. The first time i saw the video i thought maybe massey was being a
little smart with the cop, but after looking at how the cop conducted his
information to massey. The cop was way wrong. He had no right to do what he did.
Especially without telling him what was going on. There were no real warnings,
just get out of the car, turn around, and bam tazzed. I would hope that most
cops would exsplain that #1 it is against the law not to sign,#2 this isnt an
addmition of guilt,#3 you can fight this in court. And then, then maybe, at
least read the guy his rights. that is an american constitutional law. This cop
was way out of line. And he knows it. You can tell, once he tazzed massey, i
think he backed up and went, huh,did i go a little to far? he was kinda nice
once he felt like he was big man on campus. I think he should be tassed, and
then repeatedly tassed at masseys discretion. The UHP needs to formally
apologize to massey and all of us for the poor judgment in this case.
Genereally speaking; In observing the increasingly poor conduct of our
nations police officers over the last 20 years, I find myself arriving at the
conclusion that; THEY are the people who are displaying the TERRORIST behavior
based on their own psychological insecurities. And they masterfully execute it
with arrogant impunity and a lack of value for human life. Sounds like a
great marketing strategy if your attempt is to lose public trust and respect
towards your organization.
The UHP needs to sack up and admit that the cop was wrong.
Jackie,Officer Gardner should be fired immediately and view it as a
learning experience to treat citizens with the respect that they deserve. No one is required to show respect to anyone else and it is a violation
of rights to force someone's respect through force. Professionalism
and respect are required while performing duties in a professional capacity and
Officer Gardner failed to display either of those qualities.
This is actually believable. cops these days think they have way too muc
authority when they really dont. the cop walked very slowly to his car with his
back turned to massey mind you, think he thought that he was a threat? this cop
was just upset because massey wanted to see how fast he was going and wanted
proof. if you're getting cited for something, wouldnt you want proof?yes,
cops are suppposed to "protect and serve" sure didnt see any of that goin on in
this video. when the cop pulled his taser, massey is just thinkin to himself
"what is wrong with this guy? is he serious? i didnt even do anything." to all
of those who support the cop, better check your priorities. he had no right what
so ever to shoot him with a taser. ;this cop did his job way wrong and should
lose it for what he did.yeah massey could have signed the ticket, but if i
believe im innocent, you better believe i will argue. and for mrs massey, what
do you want her to do? just sit there while this cop is beating him up?
The policeman was way out of line. you kidding me? the guy was no threat. he
asked to look at how fast he was going and had every right to. the stupid cop
said get out of the car and so he thought he was going to look at how fast he
was going. as he is walking he is pointing to the speed limit sign. is that some
sort of threat?Im so sick of cops who think they have so much authority
and that they can just do anything they want. this was a simple traffic stop
with a guy who posed no threat, but he thought he had to be cool and use his
taser. what a jerk. then his buddy cop shows up and he brags to him how he used
his taser and his buddy says "good for you." wow, this is who we have
"protecting us"? looks more like hurting us if you ask me. mr massey im 100% on
your side. sure this situatin could have been avoided if he would have signed
the ticket, but he wanted proof first. the cop did his job wrong and should lose
I see that numerous officers are posting the "police think explanations" in the
latest comments. The reality is however that the officer let the situation
escalate rather than defusing it. He did NOTHING correctly. He failed to inform
the driver of why he was being stopped. He failed to tell him where he was
clocked and the speed. He failed to tell him that signing was not an admission
of guilt. He failed to tell him why he was commanded out of the car, then turned
his back on him before screaming at him to turn around,and then tasering him.
TWICE,the second time for not moving when he had been immobilized. He terrorized
the mans wife and threatened her with jail. He joked about using the taser with
the sheriff. He allowed the driver to walk aimlessly after being handcuffed.
Searched the car without permission or cause. Did not follow procedures of
arrest. Lied to his peer about having given taser warning. Showed the
communication skills of a 6 year old and the manner of a pro wrestler. In short
he should be fired for such incompetence. yep, MOVE or I will JOLT you AGAIN.
I find this whole "Police Officers can do no wrong" attitude very troubling in
this country. Massey's first question about how fast he was going was answered
with a question from Officer Gardner. "How fast do you think you were going?"
It was clearly the officer's intention to cite the man for speeding, so why
doesn't Gardner just answer Massey's question about his speed from the get-go?
He has a right to know this information. Gardner could have also told him, long
before he ever asked him to exit his vehicle, that signing a speeding ticket is
not an admission of guilt, and that failing to sign it can be an arrestible
offence.Simple communication could have deescalated any anger, thus
preventing all of this, and for a 14 year veteran, Gardner handled this whole
event about as poorly as possible. He will certainly be facing a civil suit
over this event, without question, as he indeed should. It's to bad taxpayers
will end up having to pay for the manner in which he chose to handle this case.
this is just plain abuse of power. this is what happens when a big ego and a
short temper get connected. i have never tased a person for being upset over a
speeding ticket. and if the officer would of lowered his voice and not screamed
at the gentleman this would of been avoided. As a Police officer Sergent i would
recomend that this officer be relieved of duty for good if he was in my
Mr Massey should have signed the ticket, and taken it to court if he thought he
was innocent. The side of the road is no place to be arguing your case.Massey should view that as a learning experience to give police officers the
respect that they deserve.
Law enforcement officers must follow the law and refrain from infringing upon a
citizens' rights. Mr. Massey's rights were infringed by officer Gardner and the
officer needs to be held accountable for that. An officer has no right to
retaliate against a perceived lack of respect, just as a citizen can not force
someone to respect them. The situation was not mitigated, but escalated, by
officer Gardner and he should be held accountable for his actions. If anything
officers should be held to a higher standard and not excused for poor behavior.
That Trooper was a 14-yr veteran?!?! He illustrated nothing buy incompetence
and ignorance from the time he position his car during the traffic stop. Not to
mention his inferior attitude would make anyone question if he was even a real
cop / trooper / deputy. Aside from UPH stone-walling attempts of providing a
copy of unreadable video....Since when does any credited or unaccredited law
enforcement agency tape w/out a date and time? Based off the video, the stop
was invalid from the get go.
There were mistakes made by both Mr. Massey and the officer. First and
foremost, why not sign the ticket? That is one of the stupidest things I have
ever seen(you can protest later; after all, they have it all on tape.) Also,
Masseys resist was completely immature and dangerous. All those things asside,
the officer set Massey up for a completely ridiculous and unfair ticket.(watch
the beggining of the video. Massey didn't protest for nothing.) Secondly, under
NO circumstances should a man be tazered for refusing to sign a speeding ticket
even if there appears to be the possibility of a concealed weapon! The officer
is carrying a loaded weapon and a 50,000 volt tazer for pete's sake. Doesn't
Mr. Massey have the right to defend himself as a human being? I believe the
officer should be punished for his actions of unreasonable assualt just as any
other human being would be.
Perhaps a little more training for the UHP officer, if anything. Scary stuff to
see the officer and offender behave as they do while just a few feet from
traffic. And that hand going into the pocket! And the hysterical woman
emerging from the car! Had I been the officer, I probably would have drawn my
gun and had them all prostate before replacing it, so I'm glad for the taser
technology. I hope that the newspaper provides a follow-up story to this
Are many people here that are more concerned about Utah's reputation than the
safety of police officers.
This "officer of the peace" is no peacemaker. He could have handled the entire
affair with a hint of wisdom and/or restraint, but, instead, tasered and then
arrested someone whose only "crimes" were (a) speeding; and (b) not being
sufficiently deferential to a cop. In light of the fact that people on rare
occasions actually die from being tasered, this was an excessive use of force,
and the officer should, at the very least, be reprimanded severely for his poor
judgment. And if Utah Highway Patrol doesn't take appropriate
action, then they will succeed in making the otherwise wonderful State of Utah
look even more peculiar than it already does to the rest of the country.
Mrs. Massey would have been completely within her rights to respond to Gardner's
assault on her husband with whatever force was necessary to disarm or disable
the officer and rescue Jared Massey. Under the circumstances, with her husband
lying bleeding and stunned by the side of a highway because of the actions of an
armed and aggressive man, the pregnant woman might well have been fully within
her rights to draw a gun and shoot Officer Gardner.It's fortunate
that didn't happen.
We would never have known about this rogue UHP guy had all this not gone down.
Mr. Massey is probably in trouble for not doing what this Smokey the Bandit
trooper said. He'll get no support because the superiors and the judge will not
want to compromise the lawmen's integrity. But now that we know, just what are
Gardner's superiors going to do about it? Are they the "boy's club" and protect
him no matter what, or are they going to re-think putting him in an ego position
to hurt people. What about the other "troopers" who got a good back-slapping
time at Mr. Massey's expense? These guys don't care about us (Massey was
bleeding and in terrible pain). They only want that harumph feeling of being
Wyatt Earp. The philosophy is "Do what I say, or die."
It's so OBVIOUS that our "brotherhood" has a band of "roving bloggers" assigned
to monitor and defend Trooper Gardner's actions - wherever there's a newspaper
or TV station website, when too many stories start piling up denouncing
Gardner's dispicable misuse of power, you start seeing the blatantly obvious and
rediculous comments from law enFORCEment rushing to the defense of Mr.
GardnerDon't beleive me, just look below...dozens of comments chastising
Gardner for his unjustified tasing, and then - we, the cops, "Release the
hounds!" (As shown just below)The kid was snotty, but he broke NO laws!(I Can't tell you how many times I would like to have wrapped kids like Massey
over my cruiser hood and tanned their hides)Trooper Gardner's actions were
questionable at best - he had NO need to deploy taser. He DID have a right to
give the driver A: A reason and a radar reading; and B: The dirver's Miranda
rights.Heck, Trooper Gardner could have avoided this whole debacle with
just an ounce tact.He makes GOOD cops like me look BAD!He should get
some anger counceling - it sure helped me!
Charlie Chan , your right. This would not have happened in England.
You dont want cops like that on the force.He is suppose to address
the situation and not provoke it. The cop should have just done his job and
explained the ticket. I have had tickets and those cops were professional.
They explained the ticket and options about it. I didnt like the ticket but I
respected the officer - because he was professonal.This cop was not
professional and should be fired.Whether the taser is lethal or not it was
still excessive force. Same as a cop slapping someone in the face. Its still
This officer is'nt helping anybody... Fire him!
You are NOT legally required to sign a ticket. The guy did nothing wrong. The
officer should lose his job and retraining of all remaining officers should take
The policeman should lose his job, and think about how he handled the situation.
they were both in the wrong but the cop went to far and got there way to quick
This is just another consequence of consolidated power in a big government with
extensive power over individuals. Do what you're told by the government, or
else they'll MAKE you do what you're told. The rediculously low 40
mile-per-hour speed limit is also government run amok. If the government were
serious about safety (instead of revenue), they'd quit licensing people who
can't drive safely along a wide, rural highway at speeds above 40 miles per
NHP -- It's risky for cops if the person in question is actually a dangerous
criminal. Massey was obviously not a criminal, he was just this nebbish dweeb
who was upset because the arrogant cop wouldn't tell him what was going on.With all due respect to the outstanding men and women of law
enforcement, among whom I wouldn't include Gardner, the problem with police
psychology -- which proceeds on the presumption that everyone is, or could be a
perp -- is that it causes situations like this to escalate. Cops
look at this from a perspective in which they are always enforcing the laws and
thus in the right, so that if a situation like this happens, it is the citizen's
fault. Policemen need to take a step back and look at the specific
issues involved (speeding, perhaps not responding to the officer's requests
immediately, and possibly disrespecting him). Were the reasons that he would be
arrested, stopped or involved with the law at all so serious that an officer
should even consider employing force where it's not absolutely necessary?! I
really don't think so.
Dont judge cops until youve walked in their shoes for a while. What seems like
behavior that you think is no big deal by Massey is actually VERY risky for
cops!This officer did what had to be done under the circumstances.
Oh and by the way, the reason Massey hasn't filed a lawsuit is because he will
lose it. He will only file it to waste Utah's time and money, instead of
accepting responsibility for his actions....
I think the officer did the right thing. I am suprised that Massey has not filed
a law suit yet because this whole thing looks like a set up to me. Like a person
dumping hot coffee on themselves just to get some money.
there are policies and procedures for when an arresting officer can use
"use-of-force" applications in making a arrest against an individual. in this
case against Massey, the officer is clearly in the wrong for not following these
policies.first, the offense has to be an arrestable crime, here refusing
to sign a traffic is very minor not a threat to society. Secondly, the officer's
unprofessional decision to arrest has to be announced to the arrestee and the
crime be told. (not done by the officer). In effecting an arrest there are five
levels of use of force, this officer started out at level FOUR. the next level
is deadly force, level five. so to be quite frank, the officer is way out
of policy and should reprimanded by his superiors. and to Mr Massey,
contact your attorney for a federal excessive force and constitutional rights
violations lawsuit.(4th,8th,and 14th). I am an attorney but not near your
district. i would have a field day with this "rogue" cop and implement new
policies were these type of injustices do not occur in the future to our fellow
I like your comment to John, "I dont agree with that law, so it isnt valid".
And people wonder why things like this happen.
The interaction was clearly escalated by this hot-headed, power-hungry
egotistical cop. And yet several on this blog were so ignorant as to point out
situations where citizens turn and take out their frustrations back on cops.
Are you so ignorant to not even consider the principle of cause and effect? If you want respect, be respectul. If you want violence, keep up the
violence. A badge just identifies your job, it was never intended to extend
additional liberties. Don't make it more complicated than it really is.
I have completely changed my opinion on this which was at first pretty bugged
with the cops. I will admit I didn't see the video at first. After seeing the
video, I think that this Massey character was acting like a fool. You see him
look at the camera a few different times as if he was already planning this
lawsuit. It is very interesting. I don't know the procedure for tasering
somebody or even arresting somebody, so this officer could have been way out of
line, but the driver seriously made something out of nothing here.
I hope citizens write something more than comments here. Send letters to UHP.
Send them to legislators. Since we are all concerned that law
enforcement is a tough job and we want to keep officers safe, the pendulum has
swung to the point that some defend what happened here. When society accepts
that mouthing off to an officer or contempt of cop is an acceptable reason for
restraint, tasering and/or arrest, we have a police state where officers decide
what crime is. And if society comes to the point where it accepts that one can
resist arrest, when they've never been told they are being arrested, then
officers are given waay too much power. Whether the driver's
behavior was stupid and even scary is not the issue. Officers are supposed to
be adequately trained to de-escalate such circumstances. Tell you
leaders that you do NOT want it to be legal to taser in these circumstances.
Tell them that you do not accept that officer safety concerns gives them the
right to arrest or otherwise retaliate against people because they are mouthy
and disrespectful. Tell them that only threat to safety should justify force.
An interesting variety of comments, consensus is - TWO FOOLS MET
Fact- Gets out of vehicle with hand in or close to pocket and then turns and
starts back towards the vehicle.Both actions would raise the
question of does he have a weapon in his pocket or is he going back to the
vehicle to get a weapon.He got tased and has learned a lesson for
the future. Obey and Officers orders if you get stopped again.
TO Real Estate Junkie: my point is this...it should never had gotten to the
point of having to use the taser gun. Troopers have been trained to deal with
situations like this. To say the motorist is not partially to blame is pure
ignorance. But to say that this guy had it coming is even more ignorant. As a
teacher I don't have the benefit of having a taser gun everytime a student is
not behaving. I have to use people skill that I have learned to help the
situation. It is clear that this Trooper either A)didn't want to use his skills
that he had been trained or B)was on a power trip himself. IT IS THE TROOPERS
RESPONSIBILITY TO HAND THESE SITUATIONS PROFESSIONALLY. 14 freaking years of
experience and this is the best way this Trooper could handle the situation??? I
don't buy it. They both are to blame.
This is absolutely disgusting. This is what America has become. Police think
that they can just pull a tazer out and shock law abiding citizens who are
obviously not a threat to them, just because they wouldn't bow and scrape for
him. This is exactly why nobody has any respect for law enforcement; they act
I think the officer was wrong and that he used excessive force. His joke about
tasering Massey wasn't funny. Massey's questions weren't unreasonable, although
I'm sure he now knows to choose his words more carefully around cops, who must
be handled with as much care as the weapons they carry.I once
encountered a trooper in my state (TX) who jokingly asked whether I had bazookas
hidden in my trunk, apparently in an attempt to gauge my personality. I'm always
uneasy around cops, and so maybe he thought my uneasiness around him meant that
I was hiding something illegal, so he used a sick joke to see if I would ease
up. I didn't laugh, but responded truthfully "no". He finally let me go with
only a warning for speeding, but you could tell he was uneasy too.Also, no-one's asked whether this 40 MPH (construction?) zone is being used as
a speed trap for revenue, and thus for purposes other than public safety. The
officer seems rather zealous about the 40 MPH, concerned more about writing
tickets than ensuring safety.The officer should get a reprimand and
retraining, and Massey should get damages, but neither side should be crucified.
I was curious about why the sound was removed from the start of the video, when
the cop car pulled onto the shoulder in such a way as to hide the
low-to-the-ground 40 MPH sign from the vehicle behind him. Was he making some
reference over the radio to this obvious attempt to set up a speed trap?
Massey is a complete hot-head in the video, I would have tasered him too. Does
he think he is above the law to ignore an officer's instructions, walk away from
an officer? Sign the ticket and contest it in court. He should be more
responsible, ESPECIALLY with a pregnant wife.
As a police officer if your gonna order an individual out of his car to arrest
them as soon as they step out you should be behind them and direct them to put
there hands on the vehicle and place them under arrest. why let the man walk
freely everywhere? and to tase him twice, thats clearly excessive force
especially when he is on his back on the ground. this officer needs to have a
grand jury indict him in federal court.
Has anyone noticed/pointed out that the officers statement of the incident only
MINUTES after it happened are wrong?"I told him if he didn't sign
the ticket, fine, Ill put you under arrest." - He told Massey to get out of the
car, he NEVER said he was under arrest."I told him to turn around
and put his hands behind his back, he didn't, he was back and forth jumping
around, here and there, I told him to turn around again and he didn't, so I
pulled my taser and told him, turn around right now or I will tase you." -
Massey walked out of the car in a direct straight line pointing backwards. The
officer immediately pulled his taser and fired WITH NO VERBAL warning.Thank goodness for this video. It is probably the only way we would ever know
the truth of what happened.
Under the guise of annonymity I will say that judging only by the video officer
gardener did not apply principles conflict management as taught to all UHP
officers. He did not place Mr. Massey under arrest therefore Mr. Massey could
not have been resisting. With that said let me assure you that this
officers level of professionalism and judgment do not in any way reflect that of
the overwhelming majority of Highway patrolmen.
It sounds as if many of these comments were posted by UHP PR people. The office
was wrong to taser an unarmed, non-threatening citizen. Period. Over 300 people
died in the U.S.A. last year from being electrocuted by Tasers. Would the
defenders of unprovoked use of Tasers continue their support if death had
Isn't it a sad commentary on our society that Mr. Massey and others, including
some who see the video and comment on it, are quick to condemn Officer Gardner
and not to make mention of the most important fact of all. That Officer
Gardner overreacted is probable, but if Mr. Massey had complied with the
directives of the police officer there would have been no cause to overreact and
the whole incident would have been avoided. He (Mr. Massey) was likely
speeding, he (Mr. Massey) was belligerent, he (Mr. Massey) refused multiple
direct orders from a police officer, and yet all that many people see is the
overreaction to each of these acts. If Mr. Massey had behaved as he should have
done, Officer Gardner would not have acted in the way he did.
Hey New Toy, I'd like to see what you would do if you were a law enforcement
officer giving a direct order for someone to put their hands behind their back
only to have them walk away from you with one hand partially in a pocket and the
other hand out of your sight.If an officer is aiming a taser at me
and giving me a direct order, then I'm smart enough to know what will happen to
me if I don't obey the order. Massey is lucky the cop was aiming a taser at him
and not a gun. Massey should be ashamed of putting his wife through
There is clearly fault on both side. Everyone can see that. However the Trooper
has had 14 years of training to handle situations like this. And if that is his
way of handling the situation then I believe all UHP Troopers need to be
retrained. It is hard for me to believe that this is the first time that anyone
has argued with a Trooper before. And for the situation to happen the way it did
both are to blame. The Trooper should be punished for his actions as well as the
motorist. This was not a man out of control. He asked questions and the Trooper
never tried to use his skills that he was trained, to handle this better.
Massey was defiant and displayed a combative attitude. A friend, who was a
career sheriff, told me whenever you are pulled over by an officer the officer
has no idea of who you are and what your going to do. Place your hands on the
steering wheel until instructed otherwise. Should we require that our troopers
have a fist-fight with every clown that wants to be a tough guy at a traffic
stop? If we were talking about Massey being shot with a .45, I'd say the
officer over-reacted. Tasered? this guy deserved it. Give the officer a medal!
stuff like this is why people laugh at us in utah.it's a shame, it
stinks, but it's true. the UHP's refusal to investigate this (and
dragging your feet is still refusal) is really a lowdown dirty shame.i'm just happy he didn't tase the guy's wife. though i expect that might have
sparked outrage. i don't know what it is with the UHP. we have great cops in our
cities in Utah (the SLCPD is a model of class and responsibility...i wish the
Seattle cops would take lessons from them) and most UHP troopers are good folks.
this officer, however, is clearly unglued. and i'd figure maybe the profanity on
tape might merit some attention, too. sure offended me.
Law enforcement in America has a big problem. The same problem that law
enforcement has in banana republics around the world -- they are not
trustworthy. Law enforcement in America is not as well known for taking bribes,
but incidences of planting evidence and beating people up are too common. We
place too much blind trust in law enforcement in America to do which is right,
which gives law enforcement too much power to act abusively to those they are
entrusted to protect. Because law enforcement cannot be trusted, jurors refuse
to believe police when they testify in court, and people like OJ Simpson are
acquitted. If we want a better justice system, we need better, more honest
people behind the badge.I have friends in law enforcement and quite
truthfully, they work very similar to criminal gangs, the only difference is
they have badges, and they don't go to jail when they beat or shoot someone.
They give each other a "free pass" for speeding and other infractions. It would
be nice if they would demand the same compliance for themselves they demand from
people they are supposed to protect and serve.
Bad boys bad boys -- whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they Taser you?
Some of you are amazingly uneducated...its almost comical!! Let me
correct a few errors I have read:"There have been over 2000 tazer
deaths"....WRONG!! There is yet to be a death caused by a TAZER. Tazers have
been listed as a contribuiting factor, but not the sole cause. Those who think
it will kill you if you have bad heart have no idea how they work. The voltage
is what gives you a shock...wattage is what kills you. The wattage on a tazer is
not enough to cause death or serious injury."Tasers should only be
used in violent situations"...WRONG AGAIN! Tasers were implemented so that
officers would not have to go "hands on" with non-compliant suspect...as Massey
obviously was. It is a tool that has greatly reduced the number of injuries to
officers and suspect."He didnt tell Massey he was under arrest, so
Massey couldnt have been resiting arrest." WRONG..An officer does not have to
tell you "YOU ARE UNDER ARREST" for you to be under arrest. Once he told Massey
to turn around and put his hands behind his back, Massey was being arrest.
Massey refused to comply, and therefore resited arrest.
We expect to have happened out there with the UHP. Afterall, they are paid less
than $14.00/hr as a starting wage. What sort of "professional" law enforcement
officer do you think you can get for the same kind of money that McDonalds pays
for their assistant managers? Until that changes the better and more
"professional" officers will choose to work for other agencies because of the
pay differences. Can't blame them.That being said, Gardner had no
business being that quick on the taser. He could have done a much better job
explaining the possible consequences to Massey and avoided the whole thing
happening the way that it did. Massey had no business arguing as much as he did
with Gardner either. Refuse to sign and let him hand you the ticket marked that
way. And then shut up and drive away.Both parties are guilty but the
greater guilt lies with Gardner and UHP. Pay them better and train them better
and watch for signs of an "out of control" officer with a power and ego complex.
You people who are judging the officer, please remember all you know is what
Massey's very edited video shows you and what Massey says happened. Massey acted like a spoiled brat. Our family agrees with Lynn Sanderson, 1:11.
What is even more scary is that I saw on another forum for police officers where
this incident was being discussed. The majority of the responses from officers
were that that Massey got what he deserved. So beware there are a lot of other
officers who would have no trouble doing the same thing.There were
dissenters also who said Gardner was unprofessional and escalated the sitation
when he didn't have to, but I was disturbing to see so many siding with Gardner.
If Mr. Massey really believed he was in the right, he would have posted an un
edited video. UHP will decide if the officer violated policy. It is already
apparent that Mr. Massey violated common sense and possibly the law.
...ask yourself this question? If he WAS taking pregnant wife to the hospital
doesn't it make more sense to sign the ticket and move on? Come on...law
enforcement is not out there to disrupt anyone's day..they are out there to keep
you and your family safe...especially on the road. How many would be on Mr.
Massey's side had the "what if" scenario gone like this:Instead of
being pulled over, the officer was responding to a rear end, high speed crash on
the highway where Mr. Massey's SUV lays inches from the other car...rescue
workers had to extricate the victim and a child from the mangled honda accord.
Both were pronounced dead on the scene. How many of you supporters
would now think to yourselves..."wish he'd have been caught before this
Notice how there is now hardly anyone defending the officer and almost everyone
is siding with massey? Looks like there were a number of officers with the day
off on thanksgiving and are now back at work. For the rest of us sane folk, we
finished spending time with the fam and are just now viewing all of the garbage
that people wrote yesterday. I guess the one good thing to come from this, is
that if they were all busy commenting to articles in newspapers, they would not
be out there tasering people. We should count our blessings!
For those of you that say that he is lucky that he didn't get shot I would ask
what country do we live in now? Do we have to be concerned that the UHP is the
new Gestapo? Do we have to be concerned that our right to question a police
officer will result in being shot? What a shame...What is becoming
of our country and our rights. I am disgusted at what happened and even more
disgusted that those in Utah that profess to love the constitution are the first
ones to abandon it.
After watching this video, I have concluded that the cop should be fired. He is
a hot head with poor communication skills. He used force without cause. He did
not explain himself to Massey. He illegally searched the vehicle. He
threatened Massey again. He lied to that dopey looking bald cop who showed up
later. And the whole stop was probably illegal in the first place, as he could
not even explain what Massey had done wrong. This is a shame. Makes me
...of people who are unaccountable!!! Is it just me or did anyone else hear the
driver admit he was driving 68 (or maybe 58)? Either way it was over
40...speeding is speeding is speeding and it is against the law! Who cares if
he didn't see the sign...the truth is we all pretty much know how fast we are
supposed to be driving...and if we're over that we are speeding...and if we get
caught...hmmmmm...the policeman's fault??? Absolutely not! It is not the
officer's fault...it is the driver's fault. Sign the ticket and move on. End
of story. This country is going to hell in a hand basket becuase noone is
expected to take responsibility anymore...it's always someone else's fault. I
would much rather have the cocky defiant driver tased then have his SUV end up
the tail end of another car on the road!!!
Looks like if UHP Officer is allowed to Tazer someone WITHOUT WARNING -- we all
need to start wearing helmet to protect our head when it hits the pavement after
being Tazered for a speeding ticket -- this was NEEDLESS violence !!!
Where I grew up if you shot someone in the back you were a coward or you don't
have the correct job skills. He probably was still mad about being second
string on his High School football team. He'll never be able to
explain why he shot/tazed the guy in the back,it is a simple abuse of power.With all that said he should have signed the ticket,its not worth
endagering your wife and child.
What is the UHP the SS? The police officer's behavior clearly
escalated this issue. He could have defused this in a much better way. It
appeared that he relished the opportunity to taser this young man. His
discussion with the other officer seemed to indicate this. He didn't have to
allow the young man to get out of the vehicle. It is this kind of behavior by
law enforcement that scares because now any benign quesioning of law enforcement
means they can taser you without having to answer for their behavior.
You deserved what you got!! You try being a UHP today when people are killing
them at will and you think you have the right to argue with them whether you
were speeding or not. You were definitely flapping your mouth and being surely.
Shut up next time. You probably could have gotten out of the ticket with some
explanation to the judge but now you should be fined triple and spend a few days
Nice to see how people stand up for a cop that lied to his fellow cop. Gardner
said to the other cop Massey was jumping around and that he warned Massey that
he would get tasered. Neither are true.
cops allways gets away with breaking the law even Ateranal aFairs will let the
UHP OFFICER OFF like they always do cops lie and perge all the time its policey
Actally Utah law gives Mr. Massey the right to argue the ticket on the spot.
Also it gives the police officer the right to place the ticket into the car, or
to write "Refused to sign" on the ticket. You give these "What if" scenarios...
Well what if Mr. Massey was taking his pregnant wife (she was pregnant) to the
hospital. Do you think he would have deserved A) an escort to the hospital, or
B) to be tasered?
Officer Gardner is an excellent example of why so many decent people do not
respect, and even fear, the police. I have watched the video a couple times and
this cop seemed too quick on the draw and too reluctant to listen. He seems to
have some ego problems which make his judgment unreliable and his behavior
dangerous.Tell the Vernal Chamber of Commerce their town is one
place I'll avoid visiting and spending money in as long as this trooper is on
the road there.
Follow my points along with the video (1) Watch closely as the
officer walks back to the front of his patrol car to set down the items in his
hands to make the arrest. Look at what a "vigilant" eye he kept on his would-be
attacker as he walked, BACK to the suspect. Does that casual strut back to his
car barely looking out the corner of his eye to see what is in the mans hands
after he exits his car say much to you? Either he's (a) NOT a tactically sound
operator with little to no situational awareness. (b) Or he felt no threat at
all from Massey.(2) Watch closely, again during that same moment, as
the officer leaned towards his car to empty his hands. He is already reaching
for the taser (he has to cross draw the taser) as he's turning around before he
says anything to the kid about being arrested. I could go on and on
with logical reasoning for why this "peace officer" has got issues. A question to ask yourself...if someone was pointing a taser at your chest or
face...wouldn't any of us turn around and take it in the back??
Someone please explain to me how Massey can be "resisting arrest" when he was
NEVER TOLD that he was being placed under arrest?The cop never
utters the words. Disgusting behavior by a sadistic cop.
first of all no one truly knows if he was speeding or not, probably another
speed trap where the limit is 65 then cut down to 45 in the span of a few
hundred yards. second off there is no law that says you have to agree with or
sign anything a cop gives you. And there is such a thing as reasonable force, a
person casualy walking around and asking what he has done does not need to "take
a ride with the taser" and be knocked into the middle of the hwy. question:
had the person being sited been ran over by a semi would the officer be on
John says:"please read Utah Code 77-7-24"To John and the
other people that are obviously cops themselves defending that lunatic UHP:
Please get real. I know what 77-7-24 says. I could show you other ridiculous
laws that are still on the books that I suppose you could rationalize tazing for
(if you tried hard enough and drank enough liquor). Now, lets ALL come back down
to earth from fairly-land. As I said before, You don't taze a guy, or arrest
him because he "DID NOT FOLLOW MY INSTRUCTIONS" or refused to sign a ticket.
Regardless of the how CORRUPT the UHP organization has become, judges couldn't
care less a person refuses to sign a ticket, that is thrown out in almost ALL
cases. That cop needs to be FIRED!!!!! PERIOD!!! I love the new Utah Slogans,
by the way. You add "UHP WE CAN DO ANYTHING WE WANT TO ANYONE FOR ANY REASON!"
And also the silly claim that "thousands of cops are dying" ROFL!!! Actually
it's MILLIONS of cops are dying, EVERY DAY!... no wait, it's BILLIONS of cops...
you do not have to sign the ticket the officer is just pushing his weight
around. young highway patrole officers no senior officers and a tazer.hmmmmm can
you say big head. if he would of explained what what going on and told hime " I
am placing you under arrest. PLEASE get out of the vehical and put your hands
behinde your back." this would of never of happend. im a cops son i have seen
this many of times with rookie officers! sounds to me like uhp has a big law
suit on ther hands.
Lets face it, most police are going to agree that this was a fair and correct
use of the taser. The reason for this is that they do not want to make a
decision, in other words they want free reign to use it as they see fit. Now I
understand this weapon purportedly has saved many lives and could continue to do
so, HOWEVER there must be rules regarding the taser's use and officers must be
responsible to make sound decisions of when the rules allow them to use it.
When they don't, come out and admit it and this is a case where they should
simply admit it should not have been fired, at least until later in the
altercation. I don't think this guy should be fired but he must be reprimanded,
suspended, docked pay, undergo anger management, and receive extensive training
with regards to the taser before being allowed to come back on patrol again.
I could not believe this when I saw it. The police force is out of control if
they sanction this sort of thing. This police officer ought to be in jail.( or a
dictator of a communist country.) Why is the system so careful with how they
treat hardened criminals and murderers, and so horrible to ordinary citizens who
may be in a hurry and go 5 or 10 over the limit.
Get back to work and make your comments on your time not mine! Let it go to
court. Geez, the right to bear arms, militia , military madness is killing the
country. One sees these guys strolling around with an attitude which just
disgusts me as they try to define what the profession is!
"Mrs. Massey is also very lucky she didn't get shot!"I disagree -- I
think the only real danger is that this Taser-happy Trooper was going to Taser a
pregnant woman whose single crime would have been her distress over seeing her
husband writhing in agony on the ground after being attacked by a Trooper with
horrid personal judgment.Any potential sympathy for this Trooper
disappears when you hear him threaten to give Massey another Taser shock in
retaliation for Massey committing the "crime" of asking to be read his
rights.Utah is often seen as being on the fringe of American
culture, and Gardner's actions do nothing to help the situation.
While Massey could (and should) have been more deferential to the Trooper, he
did absolutely nothing to warrant the Taser attack. Gardner was overzealous,(to
the point of being almost sadistic); demonstrated woeful interpersonal skills;
and deserves to be punished for his misconduct. (I seriously thought he was
going to Taser the pregnant woman next. He was out of control.)
In St Paul, Minnesota we had a situation where an officer threatened to cite
people for not having the address on their garages. The citizens got upset.
The supervisor came out to the meeting, explained why this requirement existed
and that it would benefit emergency vehicles. It was explained and people put
up the letters. Guess here we have Andy (of Mayberry fame) in charge of the
police instead of Barney, or in Utah, maybe we should say Barney with an
attitude.Yes, the driver was wrong but unless the video was edited, the
trooper did not say he was under arrest or warn the driver that he would be
tasered.Since CNN now has the UHP saying that the trooper's statement was
unprofessional, I suspect that even the state now recognizes the PR problem they
have.Best of luck to both parties who were in the wrong. Police are given
great lattitude: with great power comes great responsibility. It does seem that
Taser came out of the holster quickly.
Mrs. Massey is also very lucky she didn't get shot! The trooper would have been
very justified in drawing his weapon down on her also. She came charging out of
that vehicle at the trooper who was busy dealing with her non-compliant,
law-breaking husband. She came out of the vehicle more than once! How was the
trooper to know she didn't have a gun? Even a knife at that close range, could
have been a deadly force situation. Mr. Massey thought that posting the
video would win him sympathy from the public! Boy did that shoot him in the
behind (pun intended)!
What some people don't realize is that if you don't sign the citation, the
officer is allowed to arrest you. And so when he got out of the car, Massey is
lucky he wasn't shot by a real gun.
Comments that use personal insults will not be tolerated in this or any thread.
Discussion of behavior and decision-making is allowed. This thread will be
monitored very closely. The discussion must remain civil or comments will not be
It really disgusts me to read all of the obvious propaganda from gardners fellow
UHP officers in these comments. It also scares me a little. It would appear
that many of the UHP believe that gardners actions are completely justified.
Keep that in mind next time you see one of them walking the streets or shopping
or whatever. These are the bullies and criminals we tend to warn our children
about. Unfortunately, they are also the ones we pay taxes to to "protect and
serve." To each of you officers who made comments to this article, I beg of you
to PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, not "protect and serve" me. Watching Massey's ordeal
was enough for me. Final note, I was happy to stay on the sidelines on this one
until I read all of these comments. I will not join the many who are contacting
Gardner's superiors to voice my distress over this. To all of you reading who
are not Gardner's friends and co-workers, I would encourage you to do the same.
I looked up the "thousands" of police dying and found these stats for this year.
Google it. While not accurate for sure, there are certainly not "thousands" of
cops dying on road-side stops. Only in Hollywood movies.Accidental: 3Aircraft accident: 3Animal related: 1Automobile
accident: 43Boating accident: 1Bomb: 5Drowned: 3Exposure
to toxins: 1Fall: 1Gunfire: 59Gunfire (Accidental): 3Heart attack: 5Heat exhaustion: 1Motorcycle accident: 5Struck by vehicle: 7Vehicle pursuit: 6Vehicular assault: 9Weather/Natural disaster: 2
The officer never said "due to you not signing a ticket I am arresting you"
(which I don't think is justification for arrest)He simply pointed
what the man thought was a gun at him. The man was in total disbelief just like
I was when I watched the video. He was in shock. The officer told him to turn
around, which is obvious the man was not processing. Then he did and the
officer Tasered him in the back. "Turn around" he did, he got Tased. This officer was totally out of lined with the way he handled a man who it
looked like really didn't deserve a ticket. That is why he was upset. I would
be too.However the man acted totally inappropriately, he was mouthy,
yet his actions in now way warrented the lack of communication, skill, training
and use of excessive totally unnecessary force which he recieved. The officer should be fired and sued. The man should be sited for being
"mouthy" and "imature" if such sitations exist. Then the man should recieve
money for the horror he endured.I can't believe the officer is not
on paid leave while this is investigated.
At first I couldn't believe how many people on this post found no fault with
the officer in this video. Then it became obvious. The officer, his girl
friend, his brother, are the ones posting on this article. Who knows maybee
they are all from the officer. Anyone with any common sense can see that the
officer was completely out of control and violated every principle of "crisis"
management which this was not.First: The officer gave no
explanation that by signing the ticket it was not an admission of guilt. Second: If what the officer was doing was arresting the man he NEVER
communicated that. He simply asked him out of his car and walked calmly back to
his patrol car. The man was pointing at the sign and the next thing he knows he
has a taser pointed at him which he thinks was a gun.
Not OK...--but--OK if you are drunk.Why,
does drinking alcohol lessen your civil liberties?Do you know how
many people nowdays are getting DUI's for adverse reactions to presciption meds,
being tired, health conditions (Not that they should be on the road, but a
person sufering a reaction to a heart medications should not be treated
differently --tazed-- becuase they appear intoxicated.I guess in
Utah though, it's a safe statement. Help people be good mormons, taze them if
One of our constitutional rights as citizens of this country is the right to
know what we are being charged for. The motorist asked several times how fast
he was going. That's usually the first thing an officer tells you when pulling
you over for speeding, and if you are given a citation, or are arrested, you
have the right to know why.Sure, putting your hands in your pockets
and everything else is not a good thing to do in front of a cop, but Joe Normal
American guy who has never been in a situation before looking at the business
end of a weapon (taser or gun), let alone from a police officer, would be
nervous and probably scared when put in that situation. Shouldn't we feel safe
to be around our law enforcement?The officer probably didn't even
NEED to draw his weapon. If he would have told the guy how fast he was going,
he would have signed the ticket and been off. It appears to me in the video
that the cop was next to the speed limit sign waiting for someone to drive by.
I doubt the actualy speed was ever taken.
You are right as UHP attitude is right on the screen! good call that's all!
the comments i'm reading are more scary than the actions of the officer. A
signature is the property of the individual who has total jurisdiction over it's
use. that's the whole point. No One should ever sign anything they don't want
to. the scary part is how many people think it's okay for a police officer
to taser someone TWO TIMES who is not threatening or violent. The officer has
proven through his cowardly behavior that he is unfit to handle the stressful
situations of his job. what if this were a really serious incident that required
a level head and steady hand?
This is a clear case of the officer using excessive force. In the video the
motorist in no way demonstrates threatening or unusual behavior - he simply
refused to sign the ticket. The officer could have placed him under arrest
without the use of force. Massey has a strong chance of prevailing in any civil
case he files against the officer and the Utah Highway Patrol for brutality, for
excessive use of force, for unlawful arrest and for violating Massey's
Constitutional rights. The video will be extremely effective with any jury.
I say taze 'em all!!!
First off...Im glad to see some support for this officer.First: Driver
broke the law by speedingSecond: Driver broke the law by refusing to sign
the citation.Third: Driver broke the law by failing to comply with the
officers LAWFUL order to turn around and place his hands behind his back. Its
called RESISTING ARREST.This driver was nothing but disrespectful
and arrogant during the entire stop. Even after being tazed, he kept it up. Not
saying that arrogance is a reason to be tazed, but it goes to show why the
officer had a justifiable reason to taze. As uncooperative as Massey was, how do
you think he wouldve reacted if the officer would have gone "hands on" to make
the arrest, rather than tazing??? I couold have been a lot worse than what it
was. By using his tazer, the officer prevented a situation that would have
probably would have caused injury to himself and Massey. Could the
officer been a better communicator? Sure. But it doesnt change the fact that he
was justified in using the force that he used to effect a lawful arrest of a
already non-compliant suspect.
I like Jason's raionale for going on U Tube. He felt it was his "civic duty."
Well, it's also our "civic duty" to comply with requests from uniformed
officers. Then there is that whole "taking personal responsibility for our
actions" thing.The trooper could have acted more professionally but let's
not take away all their tools or we won't be safe at all.Remember, these
Smokeys operate 30 minutes away from their back-up, sometimes more. Let them
keep the tools they need.And Jason, here in American you get a copy of the
tape. Try getting your evidence in most countries. God Bless America.
Fire the Trooper, and put his over-reactive personality and alpha-male attitude
in jail. I am glad the "suspect" didn't curse during the encounter, the Trooper
probably would have just shot him dead on the spot. I see nothing
wrong with questioning a Trooper's cognitive skills, the State obviously
This guy needs to settle down and realize he was in the wrong. He admits on tape
he was doing 68, So why he keeps asking "how fast was I going" is silly. Second
the officer tells him to stay on the ground and then Massey gets up and follows
the cop to the passenger side of the car. Next time, sign the ticket and go to
court. This guy got what he deserved. If he files a lawsuit he will look just as
silly as the guy who sued McDonalds because he got fat eating their food.
Massey should have just shut up and signed the ticket. His insistence in arguing
escaladed the incident. He can always fight it in court. He is a sorry example
to his child in the car. An officer working in a remote area, without nearby
back-up, on a vehicle stop, with multiple occupants, has to do what he needs to
to get home safely. How many of these traffic stop videos show a seemingly calm
person turning violent and seriously injuring or killing the officer.
Dude...don't tease me. I mean taze me.
Please allow me out start by saying the "victim"/Massey does share culpability
in this situation. He should have known better than to argue with a COP. He
didn't and that's where the trouble begins. Most of the cops that I've dealt
with have inflated egos and huge authority complexes. Additionally, they are
often narrow/close minded individuals. They believe that since they carry a gun,
they are always right. The best thing to do in situation like this is take
the ticket, hire a lawyer and humble the cop in court. Cop trumps civilian,
lawyer trumps cop.Cops often believe that they ARE the LAW, when in fact,
they are simply there to uphold a law that elected officials I voted for passed.
Additionally, cops tend to forget that it's my tax dollars paying their
salaries.Massey should have asked for the Utah DMV code that states he
must sign the ticket. Then if the officer produced it, Massey should have signed
it. Driving is a Privilege, not a Right-and motorists do need to follow
the laws/rules of the road.That being said, Cops should be forced to show
greater degrees of restraint before assaulting a less than dangerous man.
Don't tase me Bro!
The FACT of the matter is, NONE of this would've happened if Massey would've
just signed the ticket. He was being completely disrespectful from the first
words out of his mouth. Who does he think he is to sit there and argue with an
officer on the side of the road? And then to sit there and demand that the
officer let him go look at a sign BEFORE he signs a ticket? Hey Massey, maybe
the taze helped you realize you have a serious ego problem.
When any system isn't allowed to ask questions, then there exists no room for
improvement. Hopefully other jurisdictions will use this incident as a question!
Don't do this to good America families..there was ignorance on both sides, but
when one is in a position of trust such as the officer...it is the attitude of
his leaders that will prevail. May the system not fail. Where is the Justice
..when you don't answer up or you laugh it off as if trivial, it is human beings
not human subjects! How embarassing to the good officers and leaders who do
their jobs with convictions. As I recall there was an officer from this area who
gave his life and he never was the kind to go off with this kind of hautiness!
He was trully a servant of god and his fellow man!
My son in that area reports TWO salient facts-The area of the ticket is a VERY
popular speed trap due to non-sensical signage that has some real placement and
visibility problems.SECOND-He KNOWS EVERY,single person in law enforcement in
the Basin.He says very unkind things about ATTITUDE problems with this
officer.He just seems to have some personality defects.Perhaps he needs some
counseling..CLEARLY-BOTH men were in the wrong,neither deserves a medal.
And another drug store attorney bites the dust....really needs to get a life
and quit watching law and order.
First of all, the repeated reference to the taser as a "non-lethal" weapon is
incorrect. It has caused many recent deaths - it is, after all, electrocution
and can kill anyone with a weak heart. It should be used sparingly and only in
violent situations, not a routine traffic stop.Utah can now put out
new state slogans:IN UTAH, ELECTROCUTION IS NOT JUST FOR MURDERERS
ANYMORE.COME TO UTAH, AMERICA'S ABU GRAIB.UTAH - WE'LL
SHOCK YOU WITH OUR COURTESY, PROFESSIONALISM AND RESPECT.UTAH - THE
TORTURE STATE.UTAH STATE MOTTO - "DON'T TASE ME BRO!"UHP
- WE ESCALATE TENSIONS.UTAH - MARQUIS DE SADE TASED HERE.
Both Massey and Gardner were emotionally out of control but does that justify a
Shoot-out-at the OK Coral
Just another millenial finding out that the world doesn't revolve around him.
So everytime I get stopped..I can expect the village idiot on the other side to
have his taser at the ready. Each jurisdiction should have an open book policy
on tasing so that all us good , wholesome never did nothing wrong citizens can
avoid these areas all together! WWHHIIPPDDEEDDOOO!
The driver should have handled the situation better, but so should have the
police officer. He is supposed to be trained to de-escalate such occurences.
What was his basis for how fast the person was driving. One balance, the
officer was probably more in the right, but too many times we run across
officers with a power syndrome. Do we live in Russia or a democratice U.S. I
wonder sometimes when I have to deal with the law.
This whole incident is a fine example of a naughty child who needed a good
spanking, but never got it.If you actually watch the video, try
counting how many times he disrespects and disobeys the officer.The
officer uses incredible restraint and dosen't taze the guy until he warns him
and the guy still refuses to cooperate.By the way did the UHP do a
drug test on this clown?
I would NOT want this police officer "protecting me." First of all...
at the very beginning of the video, he pulls to the side of the road, but the
police car never stops. Did he really use his radar gun? I don't think he did.
Thats why he cant say how fast he is going. It also makes the policeman a
liar. The speeding car passes the 40 mph sign and is instantly pulled over.
Who amongst us would go from 55 mph past a 40 mph sign... at 40 mph? At the
least we would allow our car to coast to 40. Second, the police officer never
gave the words... I am going to arrest you. Its implied but never said. It
would have been nice if this jerk would have told Massey he would be arrested if
he didn't sign the ticket. He might have chosen to sign the ticket. Third, he
should have warned him that he was going to tase him. Massey was not really
violent or threatening. Childish, but not threatening. Fourth, when arresting
someone who is asking for their rights to be read... read them! I hope this
state trooper get fired.
Were the two comments I submitted all that controversial?The officer
is brutal, and his behavior is all-too-indicative of where our waterboarding
country is headed.My opinion is, he belongs in jail. Why won't you post my messages?
Mr. Massey should have done what the Police officer told him to do, but that
does not give the police officer the right to use a potentially deadly weapon on
Mr. Massey. The tazer should only be used to defend the life of the police
officer of someone else.
Wrong, Casey -cont. One could easily make the case that this situation met two
of those three criteria: 1. The guy was walking away, while reaching
in his pocket, after being told repeatedly to turn around. The officer had every
reason to consider him a threat.2. Taking him down physically would
be a very dangerous proposition on the side of a busy road.Taze or
tackle were the officer's only choices. (Though I wouldn't disagree that the cop
bumbled his way into that particular corner.)
RAG and Casey, here is where I disagree with you.The man walks away,
placing the officer between two belligerent people. He has no way of knowing
the extent to which they are dangerous, but he DOES know he can't watch both at
once. Splitting and moving apart would be a great strategy if you goal was to
ambush the officer. At the moment Massey placed the officer between he and his
wife, this was IMMEDIATELY a dangerous situation because of that alone. (Add to
that the roadside danger that has led to thousands of officers dying
nationwide.)Did the officer have attitude? Yes, but the cause of
the problem was the couple.
He was a recipient of "tasing," not a victim. A victim would've been someone
walking by who was inadvertently struck. The video shows him passing the 40 MPH
sign, and the officer told him there was another as well. He was an offender,
not a victim.
Get REAL! Both of YOU are as guilty.Sad the CNN worldwide had this travel
add from Utah. Massey no sympathy for your childish act. You brought this on.
Perhaps your parents taught you this, or you just had a bad day?OFFICER - shame on YOU... public servant? Harming a person like this and your
behavior whilst you could have just noted 'refusal to sign' on the ticket and
have the judge give him a stiffer ticket for a failure to abide by your orders.
UHP learn from this. Utilize 'refusal to sign', but tell the judges to stick it
to them in ticket value... but violence???It is a sad day when teen
age mentality is rewarded by an executioner's mentality. Sad when a UHP cop is a
judge - when his judgment is as immature as the speeder's. UHP wake
up and handle this!
I think a lot of the guys posting here are cops or friends or family of them
because the attitude that an officer can treat people the way he did with Massey
was just a great big power ego trip for him. I could so easily see myself in
such a thing. I have been stopped more than one mostly for speeding and once
for doing a tricky little lane change across a few lanes to get to my ramp. Even
though I would have rather been getting a root canal, I did not have a problem
asking him just what I did wrong. I was always treated businessy and direct
except for one in Wyoming. He was a class A jerk. Mostly, however, I was given
a mini=lecture and a warning and let go. Why would Gardner not answer the guy's
non=trhreatening question how fast he was going. Watching the video and the
more complete one, Massey's truck was not going very fast, this was escalated by
power hungry egomaniac who felt like being tuff. Maybe he watched too Bruce
Willis in Die Hard. At any rate, this guy needs to chill. Somebody buy him a
this sort of incident makes me ashamed to live in Utah. What is worse is the
apologists here who try to justify what that rogue officer did. Apparently many
here don't realize that an officer can't just taze someone because they didn't
obey an immediate command. The kid was trying to get the officer to show him
any speed limit sign that he missed (as is all of our rights in something other
than a communist style police state). What's wrong with some of you people?
This trooper needs to understand he works for the public and not the other way
around. This trooper should be fired first, then prosecuted for pergury for his
false report on the incident.
Note to Mr. Massey's boss; find a reason to fire him as soon as you can. Here is
another person who thinks the rules don't apply to him, he's a whiner, a
complainer and needs to learn a few of lifes' hard lessons before he can
function normally in society.
Massey made one single serious error that I can see - not showing his hands.
When Massey was standing in front of the cop car, the officer said "Turn
around!" And Massey complied, turning around and headed for the car. The officer
did NOT say "Freeze" "Stop" "Halt" or anything else. At the very beginning of
the stop, Massey asked how fast he was going and the officer ignored his
request.So far as I can tell the only edit is the removal of when
the officer (presumably) called in his license and registration.I
don't know who could think Massey was resisting arrest - he said "Officer,
please read me my rights!" Massey:"You have not told me what I'm
being cited with!"Officer:"I told you you were speeding!"Massey:"What speed?"The officer (as far as we've seen) has never
told him what speed. The officer would not read him his rights. As far as I
know, you're not under arrest until your rights have been read. I don't think I
ever heard the officer give Massey any options such as "turn around or I taser
you" or "sign this ticket or go to jail"The officer was wrong.
In addition, the UHP's own policy on the use of taser's tells us that a taser
can only be used when - a person is a threat to themselves, an
officer or another person. - In cases where the physical use of force
would endanger the person or someone else. - When other means of lesser
or equal force by the officer has been ineffective and a threat still exists.
Lets face it, this situation does not fit. Finally,
these things have been involved in many deaths and although everyone argues that
they do not cause the death, people die after being tased. Don't you think we
should try to limit there use to when they are needed. Not when the officer
goes willy nilly firing away. Just because someone makes you nervous you don't
"give him a ride on the taser." My last note. The way the officer
was talking about it with Mr. Malley, saying "gave him a ride on the taser" or
something like that and saying it hurts doesn't it sure made it seem like it was
just fun for the officer. Ultimately, the kid learned SIGN the
TICKET. Hopefully the officer learned when to tase.
First, there is no doubt he should have signed the ticket and the officer has
the right to arrest him since he didn't. Second, its true the kid was stupid.
There is no doubt. However, he should not have been tased. The officer tased
him before he had ever said the word "arrest." Obviously the kid was confused
about what the hell was going on from the very beginning. He tells him to turn
around, what the hell for. He hadn't said the word arrest. He officer will
argue that the kid was going to flee, give me a freaking break. He took a
couple of steps, so what. Hey, I don't think the guy should get fired. He made
a mistake. Everyone does it, but admit it and move on. Under Utah Code 77-7-1
it states "The person shall not be subjected to any more restraint than is
necessary for his arrest and detention." Do you really think it was necessary
for Mr. Malley to be tased for the officer to arrest him? I mean maybe, but the
officer did not have enough info when he fired it. I'm fine with him pulling
it, but not firing it then.
It's impossible to see Gardner's side of this incident. An argument on the side
of the road would not have been possible if he refused to engage in it. Gardner
was more than willing to fuel the debate with both of the Masseys throughout the
entire episode. He was right, it did not have to turn out that way, but it did
because he orchestrated it that way. Gardner is trigger happy and a liar who
acts like someone with a drug dependency. He lost control almost immediately.
Hard to believe the UHP continues to leave this guy on duty to strike again.
Apparently, even with millions of people seeing his face they are not concerned
with his safety.
Unquestioning compliance when confronted by authority figures is a
dangerous rule to follow. The American Revolution began as a refusal to comply
with abusive authority. Child abuse occurs because children are usually taught
to obey unquestioningly. I always taught my children to question unfairness
politely but firmly. No one should be arrested, tased (tortured) or
otherwise mistreated for asking questions! While Massey could have
been more polite, the officer should have been professional enough to either
answer his questions, refer him to an appropriate source for answers, or explain
calmly why he wouldn't answer and what the legal requirements of the situation
were. The officer clearly abused his authority. The fact that so many
of the above comments defend that abuse demonstrate why our country's freedoms
are being eroded so rapidly: a preference for comfortable accommodation rather
than standing up for what we believe is right.
I am on the cops side on this one...the cop may be a Jack A, but the actions you
displayed were very similar to what i have seen on other videos right before the
perp pulls out a gun or takes a swing at the cop. Argue in court not on the
road, and be sure to put your hands out in front of you next time you fall.
A majority of comments on this article have a distinctly different flavor than
comments on the first article. To me, most of the comments on this article are
clearly from the UHP officer's colleagues, trying to paint a different picture
than what we see in the video. Here is an officer who tasered a man, not a boy,
a second time for not rolling over quickly, then threatened to taser him again
for talking. Massey was somewhat defiant in his attitude and not the kind of
person I'd like to encounter, but still treated the officer with respect. The
officer had no tact, no diplomacy skills, and really went off the edge. And UHP
should have investigated this incident sooner, whether or not they had a signed
complaint. They show that they believe they are above the law--must not apply
to them, and that is what is disgusting. With the comments of many officers
above, surely some house cleaning is in order. I agree with many of the posters
on Massey's side, especially Mark of PA. This young man and his family had no
appearance of a threat on the video, and the officer should have known his
Normally, I tend to back law enforcement in these situations. The traffic stop
is a supreme moment of uncertainty.But after I found out that
Trooper Gardner is a 14-year veteran, I cannot support his actions. He's
experienced enough to know better. He lost control of the situation.Suspension without pay is no longer the only valid option; it is now
appropriate to consider termination.
Argue with an officer, turn your back when he is placing you under arrest, move
your hands to your pockets... These are all very stupid things to do. If a
drunk man had done exactly the same actions, no one would be questioning the use
of a taser. The side of the road is no place for a confrontation, and if a
person is acting beligerant (sp?) in a situation like that, the officer really
has no choice but to subdue the person. If this officer was a bit quick on the
trigger, he'll know better next time, but it doesn't change the fact that Massey
needed to be subdued.
With 34 years of law enforcement experience, I'm increasingly concerned with
improper "taser" use (there have been nearly 300 taser related fatalities). The motorist was wrong. He should have have done as told and then taken
his case to court. If there wasn't proper signage, then he'd have a good case.
That's why we have courts.While we saw an edited tape and anything's
possible, the trooper was clearly out of line and contrary to professional
training and standards. He correctly made the stop, issued the citation and
asked for a signature. When the driver balked he could have explained that the
signature was required in lieu of being taken into custody. When the driver
turned away the trooper was correct to respond but the taser is the last resort
before using fatal force and there were other options which he had not exhausted
in the continuum of force. While the motorist is guilty of obstructing the
officer, the officer's conduct should be probed by a special prosecutor to see
if charges should be issued. Obviously the local prosecutor and the state
attorney general have conflicts and independent review is needed. We need
professional officers, not thugs with a badge.
I've noticed a couple of errors in peoples opinions. First, people
have criticized the UHP for not moving quickly on the complaint. In the article
it clearly states that Massey said that he has not yet filled out the complaint
form the UHP gave him. How can UHP "stonewall" on a complaint he hasnt
officially filed yet? Second, Scott and the others who state that
Massey didnt have to sign, please read Utah Code 77-7-24. He can only secure
his release by signing the ticket. If the officer releases him without the
signature, according to state law he is guilty of misconduct.
We need to train that officer to respond better to the commands of our "more
important" drivers. If a driver tells you to do something, just shut up and do
it. When an obviously priveleged young man tells you to drive back with him to
look for a speed limit sign before he'll sign anything, do what he says!And when you are arresting him and he starts heading back to his car,
let him go. What right do you have to interfere with the business of such a
sweet little boy.
Utah Code 77-7-7. Force in making arrest.If a person is being arrested and
flees or forcibly resists after being informed of the intention to make the
arrest, the person arresting may use reasonable force to effect the arrest.
Deadly forcemay be used only as provided in Section 76-2-404. (Utah
Code)When was Massey informed of the officer's intention to make the
arrest? After force was used. The officer broke the law.
My sister has been a police officer for 16 years, for both West Valley, SLC. We
watched the video together because I wanted to get her response. She was
flabbergasted at this conduct of the UHP and that the officer was COMPLETELY out
of line, extremely arrogant, and that it was a clear case of police brutality.
And she said that yes, technically, an officer CAN arrest someone for refusing
to sign a citation, but she added that it is pointless and that they are
specifically trainede that if someone doesn't sign a ticket, they are to write
on the ticket "refused to sign" then give them the ticket to the person and walk
away. When brought before the judge, 99% of the time, the judge doesn't even
CARE of the signing of the ticket. The Tasering was RIDICULOUS & uncalled for,
and she added of all the law enforcement agencies in the state, the UHP always
feel they are above the law, and she has been witness when the UHP has arrested
OTHER OFFICERS for "attitude" tickets, which have completely no foundation in
court. This man needs to be fired and UHP should be ASHAMED of what happened
All of the comments about not signing the ticket, hand in pocket, Massey
'arguing'... they are largely irrelevant. Why? The officer lies. He states to
his fellow officer he warned Massey he'd be tasered. It's clear that was a lie,
and that goes to prove malice on the officer's part. This isn't a
cop; he's a sneering, lying thug with a badge. ("He took a ride with the
taser").Anyone defending him is part of the problem. I respect and
admire the police. But if police generally behave this way and it's considered
acceptable, then they are at best neutral with respect to the rest of us and at
worst the enemy. Do we want a situation where (God forbid) a cop is
shot in a stop like this, and normal decent citizens shrug and say "the cop
probably had it coming". I sure as heck don't. The police serve and protect.
This officer did neither. He assaulted and lied. If that behavior becomes
commonplace and police are unable to see it as wrong, then we will be headed to
a dark future indeed.Much respect for the police. No respect for
this thug who belongs in jail.
The first mistake massey did... was getting out of the car... He should of asked
for a supervisor to arrive, and waited in his car until he did...Second, he DOES NOT HAVE TO SIGN... he can be asked to sign, but it is not a
crime to not sign it... the cop should of said, fine, I will sign the line
saying I gave your the oppertunity to sign, and here it is... good day..
The video should be shown in drivers' education courses to teach what not to do
when stopped by a police officer.
Massey deserved it. From the beginning he argued with the officer. When an
officer asks you to get out of your vehicle its not to look at the scenery. He
definately resisted arrest. No officer would allow an individual to return to
his vehicle when attempting to make an arrest.
What is wrong with all these people. An officer should not take an action that
could jeopardize the life of an individual, unless his life is in peril which it
was not. Furthermore why does the officer care if the ticket is signed,
as soon as he gives it the motorist the citation is completed. A motorist
should be respectful of an officer but this officers actions can not be
justified. If this officer doesn't lose his job I wonder about the judgment of
Steve, obviously you have never seen a video of an officer involved shooting.
The vast majority of them start out as routine traffic stops just like this one.
How can you say the officer was in no threat? Look where Massey's hands are
while he's walking back to his car, how is the officer to know what Massey has
in his car? Granted he didn't have a gun, but too many officers die each year
because some people do. Why is it that the public is so quick to judge an
officers actions when it is the public that asks them to put their lives on line
line every day they go to work. Put yourself in the officers situation knowing
that all it takes is one person to sneak a weapon out on you and you don't go
home that night.
You broke the law and endangered your family. What happen to obeying the laws of
the land. I hope you can sollow your pride and repent. I feel for you take care
of your family and let it go.You could have gone about it much differently. Luck
for you that you are not a minority. We do not have the luxury to throw a
Everyone who is on the officer's side. I just don't know what is wrong with you.
The Man Mr. Massey was fully within his legal rights. Yeah maybe he should have
argued his case in court and not the side of the road but he didn't do anything
wrong worth getting a taser. The man was of no threat to the officer or anybody
else which is the only reason the officer would be allowed to use a taser. This
whole thing could have been resolved with simple conversation. This is a classic
case of an officer abusing there power and getting away with it. The officer
said in the video to the other cop "I told him to turn around or I'll taser you"
watch the video again when he threatens Mr. Massey with the taser A. Massey is
surprised and scared B. The officer never actually said the words "or I'll taser
you" This cop should be thrown off the police force for such behaviour.
Cecil,I'm not justifying Massys actions at all, but what he did (not
signing the ticket) and having an attitude is not grounds for arrest.Police officers have a tough job, but they are trained to take all kinds of
abuse (far worse than a speeder mouthing off) professionally and to defuse the
situation and keep things from going to this level.This officer
clearly did not.
yes the officer had the option to NOT arrest the subject, but the officer felt
the bullying and attitude of the driver warranted an arrest. Yes the officer is
heavy handed, but the driver had about 15 opportunities to not get arrested,
this is clearly caused by the driver aggravating an unprofessional cop.. it's
not really the cop's fault, the driver said "NO" far too many times to the cops
lawful ORDERS to OBEY.. who in their right mind refuses a cops lawful or
unlawful orders with impunity? Someone who wants to get tasered, that's who!!
Everyone on this board is completely missing the most important point. Yes,
Massey was defiant and even "mouthy", and he should have been more cooperative.
HOWEVER... all Officer Gardner would have had to do to completely defuse this
situation would have been to CLEARLY EXPLAIN the consequences of signing or not
the citation. He NEVER ONCE said that signing the citation is not an admission
of guilt but only a promise to appear in court. He also never said that by
refusing to sign, Massey will instead be placed under arrest. He also never
said that he was about to Taser Massey. Gardner could have avoided
the entire confrontation if he would have calmly and intelligently communicated
WITH Massey rather than just giving him mindless commands to obey. Yes, it is
our duty as citizens to follow police officer's commands, but it is their duty
as professionals to use SOUND JUDGEMENT, COMMUNICATION and GOOD DECISIONMAKING
to prevent excessive use of force. In this situation, Officer
Gardner clearly demonstrated extremely bad judgement and a very poor ability to
maintain his composure and think through a situation. This man has no business
wearing a badge or carrying a gun.
I normally back law enforcement at least 95% of the time. But not in
this case. The speeder is a mouthy and should have just complied. However the
cop is the professional who is taught to know how to handle these situations.The cop handled it poorly and could have deescalated the situation. Even
when it got to the point where he refused to sign the ticked. The cop could have
told him the possible consequences. That could have deescalated it right there
before it got to the point of arresting him.Even if the Massey still
refused to sign it, in Utah the cop has the option of arresting him or not. There was no reason to arrest the guy anyway. He had his wife and kid
with him, and was obviously not a threat or danger to anyone.So say
what you want how justified this was. It never had to reach that point and in
the eyes of the public it casts a black eye on cops
My thought after seeing the video: The officer was so concerned with
forcing the situation to a resolution (as so many of the police are), so
concerned with being "obeyed" that he didn't even tell the man what speed he was
going. He searched the car without apparent permission. He was acting like a
thug. I don't care if Massey was "difficult." When the cops pull
citizens over they should go out of there way to be polite and communicative:
they are the ones pulling Us over, not the other way around--and as we see here,
they are the ones who have the power to hurt us. To say an act is
legal is the lowest level of ethical justification. That so many people are
taking the cop's side here is, I think, a sad comment on the authoritarian
nature of our society.
He's going to make some good money off of this video...and he deserves it. NO
ONE WAS IN DANGER and yet the cop shoots him in the back!?! I'm
usually sympathetic to the police in these videos, but shooting a guy in the
back is pretty low...
Look around on youtube and you will find other videos of police officers getting
killed when they did not react quick enough. Had the trooper grabbed massey, I
bet the fight would have been on. On the side of the highway, in rural Utah,
bet things could have been worse for either massey or the trooper. As it has
been said, take the ticket and fight it in court, later. the side of the
highway is not the place to argue the case.
I would hope that our police and public servants could act with a little more
restraint. I am not implying Massey was in the right, but I have done ride
alongs with troopers before and have seen similar situations where the trooper
handled the situation far more calmly and proffesionally. I hope that this will
not get brushed under the rug but will be a chance to review how our police
react with the citizens they are serving.
All that Massey is accomplishing by posting an EDITED VERSION of the traffic
stop video is given credence to the possibility that he could be he is covering
up all the interactions that led to his being tasered. If you want the whole
truth of the matter to be out there and eliminate as much doubt about your
deserving what you got or not, Mr. Massey, post the whole unedited version...
I guess the use of a batton or the butt end of his pistol would have been better
to quite the man down. Or they could have wrestled a bit and fell into the
freeway and got hit by a car.We hire police officers to protect us and
enforce the laws. We give them the right to do certain things and enforce as
they have been instructed. But that's also why we have a court system, so when
the driver doesn't agree with the citation, he can take it to a safe and
impartial place. The side of the road is not the place to make your argument to
the police officer.
I am stunned that anyone would think what the officer did was justifiable. I
don't care if he had to tell the man 100 times to "turn around," you don't use
force like that to subdue an obviously otherwise law abiding citizen. If he was
20 years old and had 3 friends in the car and was acting nervous, then sure,
pulling out the taser might have been proper. But this guy was Mr. Average Utah,
with his wife and kid in the car. He was going to suddenly become violent? This is the problem with tasers. They were intended to be used instead
of guns in life-threatening situations. Now, police are using them when, as the
officer said, "I'm not going to play that game." In other words, it was easier
to tase the man then deal with the situation.Also, did you hear the
two cops at the end of the tape? Amongst the profanity, the one officer said to
the other "good for you," or something to that affect regarding his tasing the
man.Dozens of people die every year as the result of tasing (it
happened just earlier this week). Police should be more careful.
Although Massey was being difficult, it is his right to know how fast he was
going. If the officer wouldn't tell him, then he had every right to not sign the
ticket. If he signed it then pleaded his case in court, it's hersay and the
judge would go with the cop's story (regardless whether the ticket says "this is
not an admission of guilt")
Cop's r in harm's way everyday.He should have done what he was told.I fully
thought that he desrved what he got.
I hope this officer didn't just have an urge to use what he may view as his toy.
The Sherriff deputy that arrived thought it was amusing. I mean it when I say
that officers with tasers often view it as a novelty that they have a gun that
is not lethal. I may sound bias, but my brother-in-law last week was on lunch
break at his parents and we were there. He removed the cap and fired his taser
gun (showing sparks and loud popping noises) to show off and surprise the kids.
It scared them and he laughed. Massey needed to obey all of Gardner's commands,
and Massey was wrong. The Officer can barely justify this level of force as
appropriate, and in the long run, UHP probably will have to soften policy on
Taser use which will endanger Officers. These guys are out on an island all
alone most of the time, and it is dangerous.
Hopefully the most horrific memory Massey will have is thinking about how easily
the whole situation could have been resolved...by just taking the ticket and
driving away, or by following the officer's orders.
Um ... life has taught me that there are two sides to every story. I'm inclined
to believe that Mr. Massey is not as "innocent" as he would have us believe.
Mr. Massey is doing the best he can to "Paint a Picture" that he is
indeed an "Angel." However, this is done by taking "facts" out of context. If
all the facts were presented "fairly" and in proper "context" ... it's highly
likely that Mr. Massey would end up looking like a holier than thou snob for
whom the law does not apply. Thank goodness for law, and the rule
of law, it's what keeps us all safe ... even Mr. Massey.(Yes, this
series of events was quite unfortunate, and it is regrettable that Mr. Massey
had to endure being tasered. But had he acted "prudently," none of this would
have ever happened. By the way, I'd be curious to know if he was really
speeding to begin with. He does not ever mention whether he was the culprit who
set these series of events into action to begin with. Don't blame others for
your own poor decisions ... Mr. Massey. Grow Up!)
For the benefit of the rest of us out there, please, file a lawsuit and get this
man off of the Highway Patrol. I don't ever want to run into him, or any other
patrol officer that is like him. I am disgusted by this.
It is interesting that Massey refuses to accept any responsibilitly at all for
what happened. Signing the ticket is a no brainer, it is not an admission of
guilt.While I was not pleased with the way the trooper handled the
situation up until the tazing, I do see the tazing to be reasonable.Mr. Massey was clearly defying the commands of the trooper. He's wandering
around on a highway -- not safe. He also reaches into his pocket. You never,
never do that in front of law enforcement.The same three rules apply
here as they do anytime you are stopped by police.1. Show your
hands2. Comply with commands3. Get your questions answered at an
appropriate time and place. Immediate gratification on this end is not always
the safest for either party.
The knuckle head got what he deserved. Do what the police ask and they
won't taser you. It is very simple. The wife is lucky she did not get it.
After watching the video I felt it was clear that this boy was resisting arrest
at the point the taser was used. The officer was very calm, but could have
handled the situation better. He should never have had the kid get out of the
car, and instead wrote on the citation 'refused to sign'. It was the choice to
arrest the boy for not signing that escalated thesituation and put the officer
in danger.Having worked a lot with teenagers, I can attest this
child was not significantly mature. He was acting like a typical fourteen year
old. He was slow to follow directions, he felt it was the officer's behavior
that was out of line not his own, and most condemning of all he ignored the
officer and turned his back to him to go back to the vehicle when being told he
was under arrest. His parents should teach this young man and his girlfriend
respect before they are old enough to get married and have kids on their own.My real question is, should we handle these teenagers differently
because of their age?
you better sue! If you don't, this WILL happen again. I want to
know how often this guy has tazed motorists near Vernal.I know it
can be emotionally draining and you feel like just throwing in the towel because
it just seems too hard to continue... but you just HAVE to see this through.
The officer was in the wrong and he HAS to answer for his poor behavior.I'm not saying your behavior was the best...but the officer was WAY out
From what I saw on the video, Massey resisted the officer's orders and got what
Thank the Lord. I'm very glad to see Youtube used in a constructive manner.
Ignoring the facts of the case it's wonderful to see a case actually brought to
light using the internet - it's quite obvious that the Massey's wouldn't have
gotten all the information that they were looking for until after a 6-12 month
"internal" investigation that would have turned up negative. While it's obvious
that the investigation will still turn up negative, as these situations always
do, at least some heat is being placed upon a public department to improve
themselves. While yes, it is true that police officers shouldn't be questioned
or argued with due to the difficult jobs they preform there is nothing wrong at
all with trying to make a system more perfect - like it or not this video will
end up being constructive. I do agree with another poster when he commented that
if this is the reaction to a simple traffic stop imagine when this officer is
confronted with real violence and the potential for the death of more than just
I can't believe this guy thinks he is the victim of anything. I'm not a cop, but
I've seen the video on Youtube, and it's clear to me that the trooper was
justified in his use of force. He pulled the taser out when Massey refuses to
stop when he walking almost directly toward him w/ his hand in the air. Then
Massey continues to refuse the trooper's verbal commands, while reaching into
his pocket, trying to pull out who knows what, so the officer tasered him. I
would have done the same thing. The guy would not comply, and continued to
present himself as a threat. He should be grateful that cops carry tasers so he
didn't have to be taken down with a night stick.
These cops and the use if tasers are getting out of hand. What happened to
"serving and protecting" citizens.
I don't know if the Trooper over reacted. Haven't seen the video or heard the
troopers side. I can tell this young man doesn't have a clue yet that he was an
active participant that created the situation.
Maybe the UHP can re-assign Officer Gardner to enforce Orem's residential
landscaping ordinances until this all blows over.
AFter having seen the video this guy is lucky he didn't get shot. You don't act
hostile towards a cop. you don't walk towards him with your hands reaching into
a pocket. You do as you are told.Several times the guy appears to
be reaching for something and disobeys the officer.He is lucky he
didn't get shot. I'd like to be on that jury.THe officers have a
tough enough job. Their life is on the line every time they pull someone
over.Actions like this could one day cause one of them to get
i have seen the video twice. I am disgusted that a Police office of any kind
could lose that much sself control. The office has image issues and power and
control issues. If he remains on duty other private citizens are at risk. The
fact that the Highway Patrol is not moving publicly on this issue futher
validates a problem within the agency. Shame on the Highway Patrol. They are an
angency that must be above board, and have the respect of those on the highway
to be effective. This type of behavior undermines the safety of those driveing
upon the roads. Again, SHAME on the highway patrol and this office.
If Massey had just signed the ticket, the whole incident would have never
happened. Signing a ticket is NOT an admission of guilt. He could have had a
hearing on the ticket to explain his position. He chose instead to argue and,
then, failed to comply with lawful orders of the officer. Massey caused this
mess. His whining on the internet and threats of lawsuits are not well based.
I've watched the video and wonder why everyone is upset at the trooper. Routine
traffic stops are one of the most dangerous things cops do. Anyone that's
watched video of officers getting shot has seen people acting just like Massey
that ended up killing a cop.If the guy had followed the officer's requests
he would never have been asked to leave the vehicle. If he had followed the
officer's orders he would never have been tazed.When a guy deliberately
disobeys an order, especially with his hand in his pocket, that's a huge red
flag.A lot of people have commented that the officer was rude to the guys
wife. Once again, when a second person leaves the vehicle it's a huge red flag
that something bad might happen. Once the guy was securely in the police car,
the officer calmly explained to the woman what had happened and why he had tazed
the guy.It's too bad the situation went as far as it did. Maybe the cop
was a little quick on the gun, but it was the behavior of the speeder that
resulted in the action taken. Put the blame where it belongs.
I feel that the officer could have used better communication skills. But when
there is a lot of editing in the film. I still see a lot of what he and his wife
did brought on the incident. This kid thinks he knows the law and wants to hold
court at the scene. I believe if you listen you can hear the wife along with
Massey arguing with Gardner at the first of the tape. There is a defiant and
bulling attitude exhibited by Massey. He must feel that laws are for everyone
else and do not apply to him. When told repeatedly to turn around and put his
hands behind his back, the walks away. The wifes actions after he was on the
ground did not help, with so many police being shot lately. Officer Gardner
needed to have concern for his own safety when she came around the SUV while he
was taking Massey into custody. What if she would have had a gun?? Massey
continued to be defiant even when being ask to get into the troupers car. It
almost seemed that when the sheriff deputy showed up is when he started to obey
the orders given.
I saw the video on youtube and I think that it will only help the trooper. The
driver broke the law by speeding, refusing to sign the citation, and by refusing
to follow a lawful command. The trooper had probable cause to arrest the guy,
so the driver basically resisted arrest by refusing to turn around and be cuffed
and he walked away. I would agree that the video does look bad, but that
doesn't mean it was excessive force. The trooper will not be in any trouble,
I'm sorry mr. youtube.
Another bad judgment done by an UHP trooper... that's one reason I don't live in
Mr. Massey, life is really not that complicated. You are just making it that
Mr. Massey, the officer told you to turn around so that he could place you under
arrest and handcuff you and you obviously resisted. The officer gave you plenty
of chances to sign the citation and to submit to the arrest. What would you
have the officer do? Get into a physical struggle with a subject on the side of
a busy highway, putting both of your lives in jeopardy? Or he could have let
you get back to your vehicle to drive away and the pursuit would be on, again
putting everyone's life in danger or to retrieve any weapons from the vehicle.
(I know, you don't have any weapons, but how would the officer know that?) Or
he could simply deploy the taser and end the situation without putting any one's
life in danger. (I'm so sorry about the bump on your head.) These are just
some of the things that would have been going through this officer's mind during
this situation. All you had to do was sign the citation or submit to the
I saw the video and it doesn't look to me that the victim's statements above
match his actions on tape. The victim defies the officer more than once. I think
that it is about time that the public realizes that this and other officers are
out there by themselves trying to enforce the laws. The officers put their lives
on the line for us and this guy makes it hard on the officer to enforce the law.
The victim and the public need to recognize that when someone goes against
authorized requests of the officer that there will be consequences to that
choice according to the laws.
The Trooper did the right thing, the side of a highway is not the place to argue
and if this encounter went sideways, the officer could of easily been fighting
this guy in the middle of the freeway. The moral of the story is sign the
ticket and plead your case in court. Take pictures of the sign and bring them
with you. You had to know you were going to get the ticket no matter what.