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Trooper's Taser use pops up on YouTube
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Personally, I think that there are a lot of motorists that need speeding tickets (and more). And I also believe that law enforcement should be respected. But if one legitimately feels unduly cited, one might not feel inclined to legitimize the speeding ticket at that moment with a signature.
So what's the law say? Was this guy in the right for refusing to sign it? Even if he wasn't, I highly doubt he should have been arrested, let alone Tasered. Let him walk away and send him the ticket, for Pete's sake.
If this guy doesn't get fired, we've got a major problem on our hands.
100% Uncalled For.
This officer needs to be let go.
Perhaps settlements like this guy is about to win from the UHP have forced the state to cut UDOT's workforce!
A few factual points:
Signing the summons is NOT an admission of guilt, it's a pledge to appear in court. We don't do it here in NY but lots of places do. Under Utah law, if you refuse to sign you can be arrested, which is just what happened.
You only need to be given Miranda rights PRIOR TO QUESTIONING! Real police work is not like TV, he did not have to be mirandized at that point.
The place an officer has to prove anything is in COURT, he has no right "see the sign" until in a COURTROOM!
P.S. You don't have to be read your rights if you are not being questioned.
Bottom line-sign the ticket and go to court with your explanation, photos, diagrams, etc.
Don't condemn the agency for one person's mistakes. I'm sure that his actions are not in accordance with their standard policies. They shuould use this tape as a training tool for other officers so that they don't make the same mistakes.
The illegal search for narcotics, coming up with a cantaloupe, was a nice touch. So was the terrorizing of the pregnant woman.
Imagine if this were 30 years ago, before dashboard videos, when cops used real guns.
It's not that difficult to say from the outset, "Sir you were traveling 10 mph over the speed limit." Of course if the cop was fishing for fines, then he placed two citizens at risk - Massey and his pregnant wife.
Massey did not help himself by walking away, but the cop should have stated the specifics from the outset.
Plus he should lawyer up and collect a few hundred million from the citizens of Utah for allowing fascist totalitarian type cops represent them.
The public should be respectful of law enforcement as a matter of principle. However, this is in large part because law enforcement has earned that respect by their past behavour. If police officers expect continuing respect from the public they must continue that tradition of behaving professionally.
Signing a ticket is not an admission of guilt, but refusing to sign one means that you can be arrested instead of just being cited for the offense.
The cop needs to be officially sanctioned in some way, and fired if he can't prove he can handle the power that comes with the badge. Letting him off sends the wrong message to other officers.
Unfortunately law enforcement has to be careful who they hire, because bullies seek power. However, my experience is that the vast majority of police officers are terrific people who do a great job.
In other words, the cop could have and possibly should have been shot on sight for escalating this speeding ticket into a dangerous encounter.
I carry a gun at all times, and am prepared to kill any cop that oversteps his authority such as this. Let this be a warning to all of you.
On one occassion I had a blow-out on I-215 going to work and was cited for speeding. Come to find out I had a hole the size of a balloon in my left rear tire. The trooper that investigated my accident didn't even bother to get out of his patrol car to investigate the accident (the left rear of my car was totalled).
Taking the matter to court was a big joke. I even took a letter from a witness who stopped to assist me even before HP arrived, written on his own letterhead no less, that wasn't accepted by the pin-headed judge. My big mistake was not taking a picture of the accident.
HP apparently has legislative powers and automatically issues tickets at accidents regardless of fault. Paying attention, DOPS?
Well I guess you showed him who was really in charge. It was all about power.
But some people criticize the driver for not understanding the law? Seriously?
This psycho cop needs to be charged with criminal conduct, sued in a civil court, and barred forever from carrying weapons of any sort.
Here, the officer did a terrible job of explaining that no guilt is acknowledged by signing the ticket. He escalated a typical situation into a potentially deathly one. That is why he should be summarily fired and prosecuted with undue use of force. It didn't need to happen and now he has made it harder for others on the force.
That is the ONLY way the UHP will understand what happened was a result of bad training or hiring practices.
Laws are meant to be enforced and that is a good thing, but it doesn't take a genius to know that HOW you enforce laws can not be left in the hands of the cops on the street "(Underpaid, Overworked, OutGunned, No Community Support)" No you have to develop standards of enforcement at a senior level and define reasonable force for a given situation and the proper techniques for diffusing stressful situations. Then provide education to the beat cops to understand their roles.
Either the UHP does not bother training its officers, or the training program is severely lacking. The action of this one officer demonstrate multiple errors of judgment and the use of a Taser in a manner that would get him demoted in just about any jurisdiction (except here apparently).
The worst part, is that this will have a ripple effect across the US and many departments will have to redo training plans, and overall increase paperwork for providing officers with Tasers all because of this one incident.
2. Dont sign a ticket go to jail, signing the ticket is a promise to appear not admitting quilt.
3. He also initially refused to give the officer he license and registration.
4. He repeatedly refused to obey the orders of the officer.
5. He put his hand in his front pocket and turned to leave. Stupid.
6. Number one places officers are killed is on traffic stops. And sometimes the bad people look like normal innocent people.
Now as a cop this trooper made some mistakes, but tazing him was an option available and he used it. It is a soft hand control form.
7. This guy was an idiot who did not use the proper adult judgement that having a drivers license should he should have.
It is also a shame that we need YouTube to accelerate an internal affairs investigation into an unstable meter-maid wannabe. Fire him and prosecute him and create an example of how not to behave as an officer of the law.
like teachers, UHP are underpaid and get no respect.
You can tell by the posts which ones are the high testosterone power junkie cops that think everyone should jump just because they can finally grow a mustache.
Way too fast on the trigger, there, public "SERVANT".
There was NO need for your force, you were just having a bad day and felt someone needed to "Ride the Taser".
I know they make cops get tazed before they can taze, but I think they should make them get tazed for everytime they taze, the same way they should be pepper-sprayed for everytime they do it to a citizen...
Make them think twice.
Oh, and me, never been tazed, or peppered, but I have received tickets from dishonest Utah cops, two of which were dismissed by the judges in front of the "officers". One, I had to fly to St. George from CA, but it was worth it to see the officer explain how I was going faster than 40 mph where there was no 40 mph zone (they like the money mailed in).
This officer overstepped his bounds, and I hope he finds himself out of work as a result. He clearly doesn't deserve to wear the uniform he's been given, and every day he does is just further disgrace to the real officers of the UHP.
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