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Utah adds 10 people per hour
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Correction | 1:06 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
It is not Micron, it is IM Flash Technologies. Do your research.
Anonymous | 1:23 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
theres enough housing being built right now to support 1000 people per hour...
stop building... pretty soon we'll be in bad as shape as Vegas, Phoenix and
CA
GK from England | 1:57 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
Has anyone stopped to consider why so many people want to move to Utah? One of
the main reasons why Utah is such an attractive place to raise a family is
because of the good influence of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
and the many good Mormons who live in the State. May I also add that there are
many good people of other faiths, whom I met while serving a mission in Utah,
who also have contributed to making the Beehive State a great place to live.
But of course, the ignorant Anti-Mormons blinded by their own biased opinions
and narrow-minded ways would never see the answer so clearly.
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Anonymous | 7:16 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
Roughly half of the growth statewide was due to natural increase and half to a
net in-migration. Public services are being over taxed and the LEGAL redidents
are starting to pay through the nose by being forced to pay for those who are
breaking the law. Please diferentiate and seperate LEGAL IMMIGRANTS and ILLEGAL
ALIENS when writing rahter that try and lump the two different groups together
Wassup | 7:23 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
And what is the governor, state legislature or the medical school doing to
ensure there are enough physicians for the population growth. There is a
current shortage and only getting worse. You think waiting weeks is too long,
just wait.
Comment | 7:30 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
I also had to laugh at the comment that IM Flash jobs are "computer
jobs." Try manufacturing operators, chemists, engineers, physicists,
electrical technicians...
Kevin | 7:42 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
More smog, more congestion, less untracked powder, more who will die in an
earthquake or have to be evacuated. Time to learn survivals skills and move
off the grid.
Keith , California | 8:08 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
GK form the UK: You are so right about Utah. Why do some move to find a better
place to live, then want to change it to what they left?
Correction | 8:33 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
To be fair, the M in IM Flash does stand for Micron, and it is in the old Micron
building, as it will forever be known. But yes, they could have been more
accurate.
Wow GK! | 8:53 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
You are quite defensive this morning aren't you. If you read the article
you will see that much of the growth is not people being attracted to Utah by
the Mormons, but rather construction employment, and high tech employment. The
only thing that was attributed to the Mormon church was the high birth rate. And
no I am not anti-Mormon.
to GK | 9:21 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
How arrogant of you! Speak for yourself, I moved to Utah for the recreational
opportunities. Unless the LDS church built the mountains and the red rock, then
I would say they had NOTHING to do with my decision to move here.
And by the way, self-righteousness is still a sin, last time I checked.
And by the way, self-righteousness is still a sin, last time I checked.
An Idea | 9:30 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
We should regulate the birth rate, like they do in China. They seem to be doing
pretty well...
to: keith | 9:35 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
Maybe because you keep assuming people move here because of the LDS population,
and that's just ignorant. I know you love to pat yourselves on the back,
but I hate to break it to you, but nobody moves here just to live around LDS
people (except for single people who need to find their soulmate pronto). Not
that the LDS population is a negative, it's just not a reason for people to
pack up and move their lives to another place. When I moved to Florida in my
twenties, I wasn't thinking "I'd love to move to Florida so I can
live with Baptists!" I actually was nervous about that, and I went despite
it, not because of it. Maybe it's the same with Utah.
used to be a nice place to live | 9:45 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
The growth is good for ecomony but has added so much traffic, crime, traffic,
and pollution along the Wasatch.
That's quite a price to pay.
When I visit family in Northern Calif. I find less pollution, traffic and crime.
That's quite a price to pay.
When I visit family in Northern Calif. I find less pollution, traffic and crime.
Dave Mishem | 10:03 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
Sorry, GK, but the LDS folk are the reason I spend as little time in Salt Lake
City as possible when I have to go there on business.
What kind of whackadoodles believe in magical white underwear in this day and age? The way they are maintaining their numbers is through a forced breeding program, not through conversion.
What kind of whackadoodles believe in magical white underwear in this day and age? The way they are maintaining their numbers is through a forced breeding program, not through conversion.
OK GK | 10:04 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
GK from the UK you really are F(rea)K. I'm not mormon but I do appreciate
the positives you mention. You felll off the truck though with the "narrow
minded" rant. Wow for sure, take one of your pills and relax.
the way it is | 10:07 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
All major social problems stem from the population explosion.
There is nothing anyone can do about this but welcome more smog, crime, unemployment, poverty, and overall hatred for each other.
Get used to it.
There is nothing anyone can do about this but welcome more smog, crime, unemployment, poverty, and overall hatred for each other.
Get used to it.
Rick | 10:14 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
Peopel move to Utah for it's natural beauty and oppurtunities, in spite fo
the LDS.
Although the dearth of black people probably helps some of the white flight from elsewhere.
Although the dearth of black people probably helps some of the white flight from elsewhere.
BH | 10:18 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
While I agree with GK that Utah is a nice place to raise a family, I really
think a survey would find other reasons leading why people move to Utah.
One is a very strong economy, with an unemployment rate so low anyone who wants a job can have one.
Another is quality of life, as repeatedly reported in annual reports. Of course the family values mentioned by GK are part of that quality of life, but other factors include health care, outdoor recreation, etc.
When it comes to illegal immigrants, they like to move to Utah for two reasons. first, job availability. Second, Weak enforcement of immigration laws.
This type of growth actually scares me about the prospect of moving back to Utah. It seems what attracts people to move to Utah will be lost because of all those that move to Utah.
One is a very strong economy, with an unemployment rate so low anyone who wants a job can have one.
Another is quality of life, as repeatedly reported in annual reports. Of course the family values mentioned by GK are part of that quality of life, but other factors include health care, outdoor recreation, etc.
When it comes to illegal immigrants, they like to move to Utah for two reasons. first, job availability. Second, Weak enforcement of immigration laws.
This type of growth actually scares me about the prospect of moving back to Utah. It seems what attracts people to move to Utah will be lost because of all those that move to Utah.
Carl | 10:37 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
We've lived in about 15 places in the U.S., traveled in 40 others. We and
some of our kids went to Utah State, in Logan and Dixie, in St George. Two of
our married kids and now live in Utah County. Most of our 30+ grandkids will be
raised in various parts of Utah.
It has never ceased to amaze us how out-of-state students would come to Utah, laugh at the Happy
Valley jokes for four years, then refuse to leave. They'd take some unrelated job or start their own business to stay.
And their parents would come to see them graduate and decide they like it and move here, often with no jobs arranaged, no connections, no other family.
And then they want to be the last ones in, close the borders and keep 'outsiders' out!
American has a lot of nice places, but no other place we have ever lived or visited matches this.
One man's trash can be another's treasure.
It has never ceased to amaze us how out-of-state students would come to Utah, laugh at the Happy
Valley jokes for four years, then refuse to leave. They'd take some unrelated job or start their own business to stay.
And their parents would come to see them graduate and decide they like it and move here, often with no jobs arranaged, no connections, no other family.
And then they want to be the last ones in, close the borders and keep 'outsiders' out!
American has a lot of nice places, but no other place we have ever lived or visited matches this.
One man's trash can be another's treasure.
Stewart | 10:41 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
Even without counting the illegal aliens, like they do in CA and the rest of the
U.S., Utah will still get the congressional seat in 2010 with about 400,000 to
spare.(about 300,000 short of getting 2 seats) Since the census attempts to
count, or estimate, every human being, some states, due to large numbers of
illegal aliens, have more house seats and electoral votes than they deserve.
Calif. for example has 3-4 more than they deserve, which makes everyone
else's vote worth a little less. The votes count for more in districts with
large numbers of illegal aliens, that supposedly don't vote, which creates
a political force in favor of allowing illegals to remain.
SomeGuy | 10:43 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
I'd like to personally thank Dave Mishem for his wonderfully ignorant
comment. BRAVO!
Oh Boy! | 10:46 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
I have friends from China; a wonderful country full of history, tradition, and
culture. Do you really want to "regulate the birth rate" as they did?
Newborn girls aborted in alleyways, young girls being sold as child-brides. Why?
One child, one chance to pass on the family name, it's got to be a boy!
Twenty years after the one-child policy there's a "demand" for
elegible marrying-age females. Children are an investment in the future of our
culture and society. Should couples be mindful of how many they can
realistically support financially and emotionally? Yes, but that is an education
issue (and I'm not talking schools). When one gets older as I am getting,
the number of pristine powder runs I took or how long my commute home lasted or
how many power centers are built around the valley matters far less to me than
do the moments I get to spend with my four children laughing and talking and
just being with each other. I only wish my finacnces could have afforded us to
have more!
great comments | 10:50 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
An intolerant bigot calling all people who aren't of his belief system
narrow-minded, another equally intolerant bigot ridiculing a religion's
sacred practice, and many more stellar comments just add up to a pathetic
accounting of some sectors of our society.
Perhaps the growth is based more on economic factors than who your neighbor will be. It would be interesting to so what the country looked like if all of us had the resources to choose our place of residence based solely on who we would live next to.
Perhaps the growth is based more on economic factors than who your neighbor will be. It would be interesting to so what the country looked like if all of us had the resources to choose our place of residence based solely on who we would live next to.
moved | 11:20 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
I relocated to Utah and lived there for 20 years.
The natural beauty is great.
But the local culture is way too weird for me.
Been gone for 2 years and loving every minute of my liberal life.
The natural beauty is great.
But the local culture is way too weird for me.
Been gone for 2 years and loving every minute of my liberal life.
Wesley | 11:38 a.m. Nov. 16, 2007
I think it's entirely possible that folks move to Utah for various reasons.
This isn't an argument. Yes it is. No it isn't. (Sorry to the Pythons)
Anonymous | 12:45 p.m. Nov. 16, 2007
I was offered a job in Utah and the only reason I almost didn't take the
job was because of the local religion, but I figured it can't be all that
bad and moved anyways... boy was that a mistake! I can't wait to leave the
majority of these close minded people that live here! Adios!
Elton | 1:00 p.m. Nov. 16, 2007
I'm LDS and I grew up in Orem, I still have family there and I actually
attended BYU, and I can say It's a beautiful place, but the people ruin it
for me.
I am 100% happy to be outta there and be in my new home which I think it's 100 times better, Colorado 6 years now.
I am 100% happy to be outta there and be in my new home which I think it's 100 times better, Colorado 6 years now.
John | 1:01 p.m. Nov. 16, 2007
Dave Mishem said "What kind of whackadoodles believe in magical white underwear in this day and age? The way they are maintaining their numbers is through a forced breeding program, not through conversion."
You will be hard pressed to find any Latter Day Saints who believe their 'underwear' is magic. Only stupid, brain dead bigots who do not understand suffer from that delusion.
If you had read the article, you would know that the population growth can no longer be attributed only to the 'big family mormons' but also to large numers of people moving here for various reason.
Anti mormon bigots make up things about the church, then go about pretending that their lies, are church doctrine, and that their stupid statements, are validated by any actual member of the church.
Mormons have their moments of ignorance and stupidity, but people like you who cannot shut up about it for one minute, are the cause of most of the problems. Just as it was in the 1840's, you are a member of a hate filled mob, only lacking the black paint on your face.
Anonymous | 1:09 p.m. Nov. 16, 2007
Salt Lake City is like every other metropolitan area - over-crowded.
So count on:
more crime
more people each year
less happiness
So count on:
more crime
more people each year
less happiness
Anonymous | 1:27 p.m. Nov. 16, 2007
I love Utah!
Lets not destroy it with over population!
Everything in moderation INCLUDING REPRODUCTION!!
Lets not destroy it with over population!
Everything in moderation INCLUDING REPRODUCTION!!
meh | 1:59 p.m. Nov. 16, 2007
The weirdness of the local religion (or the perception thereof) is the only
thing that's kept UT from being over-populated for so long. Now that
non-locals are starting to get more of a toe-hold and it's becoming *more*
diverse, outsiders feel more comfortable moving here and believe me, it's
despite the local religion, not because of it. Anybody that grew up non-Mormon
in an overwhelmingly Mormon city/school district will attest that it's not
an ideal situation for non-Mormon children. I can't count the number of
times Mormon parents told their kids they couldn't play with me because I
wasn't Mormon.
Just Repel Migrators | 2:13 p.m. Nov. 16, 2007
We need to make Utah less appealing. Perhaps if we add a lot of construction on
the only major interstate connecting the major cities, a lot of alcohol laws,
and invest the least amount of money per capita on education in the nation,
people will stop moving here.
Wait a second...
Wait a second...
Tip of the Day | 2:15 p.m. Nov. 16, 2007
Birth Control.
ARAEH | 2:30 p.m. Nov. 16, 2007
I grew up in Carbon County! I graduated with a class of 133! Best Years of my
life!
porky | 3:13 p.m. Nov. 16, 2007
well, that explains the commute!
how soon before TRAX and commuter rail are maxed out?
how soon before TRAX and commuter rail are maxed out?
Good times ahead | 3:20 p.m. Nov. 16, 2007
Wow! 10 new people per hour added to Utah.
Just think of how candy and ice cream stock is going to go!
Just think of how candy and ice cream stock is going to go!
Brenda | 4:24 p.m. Nov. 16, 2007
The world is definetely changing and Utah is no exception. I grew up in Utah,
(my best friend in school was a Catholic, and I had other friends of other
religions, and my parents never told me to stay away from them because they were
non-LDS)I don't like it where I live, and want very much to move back to
Utah. The overpopulation in Utah is a drawback, and the crime. When I visit in
the summer, the number of rude drivers on the road, just amazes me. Not
something I encounter very often here. Every state probably has it's good
side and bad side.
Utahn in CA | 5:25 p.m. Nov. 16, 2007
Let me tell you that the similarities between Utah and southern California are
astounding. It's more the same than different. BUT, in California there is
this fascination with "master planned communities". Don't get me
wrong, I like my neighborhood to look nice, but it is rediculous how much people
pay to live here; and most don't even get to the beach very much. My
neighbors spend $20-$50,000/year just on property taxes and mello roos fees!
Then they have a $350/month HOA payment, regardless of where you live.
That's why I'm moving back to Utah, where I can pay off my house in 10
years and get away with $3,000/year in property taxes; and I won't live in
an HOA community. My $200,000 salary will go much much further in Utah than in
Orange County. That type of money here barely gets you 3 bedrooms and you surely
won't have a backyard.
Eric | 5:27 p.m. Nov. 16, 2007
I am not a Utah resident, and actually am a native Arizona Mormon. All of my 6
siblings were born in Arizona, though half live in Utah County now. I can feel
for your growth.
8 years ago, we were happy residents in the north Mesa Area, which is in the North East Phoenix Metro are, but forced to move because of a freeway, locating in the sleepy little farming town of Queen Creek in the South East Valley area.
When we moved here in 2000, there were just 4 wards in Queen Creek. Since 2000, there are now 52 wards in 8 stakes in the original Queen Creek Ward area. This is the fastest growing area the Church has ever had. In my church position as stake clerk, I calculated our percentage of LDS members to the general population at about 15%.
People are moving into Queen Creek for about the same reasons. Population expansion due to marriage/birth rates, high tech fueled jobs with resulting attractive spin-off jobs, locations to recreation, lower cost housing compared to California and the more settled places in the valley, and a safer and more desirable place to raise a family.
8 years ago, we were happy residents in the north Mesa Area, which is in the North East Phoenix Metro are, but forced to move because of a freeway, locating in the sleepy little farming town of Queen Creek in the South East Valley area.
When we moved here in 2000, there were just 4 wards in Queen Creek. Since 2000, there are now 52 wards in 8 stakes in the original Queen Creek Ward area. This is the fastest growing area the Church has ever had. In my church position as stake clerk, I calculated our percentage of LDS members to the general population at about 15%.
People are moving into Queen Creek for about the same reasons. Population expansion due to marriage/birth rates, high tech fueled jobs with resulting attractive spin-off jobs, locations to recreation, lower cost housing compared to California and the more settled places in the valley, and a safer and more desirable place to raise a family.
Anonymous | 6:03 p.m. Nov. 16, 2007
To Utahn in Ca.
Money ain't everything.
Give me location and a liberal atmosphere anyday.
Money ain't everything.
Give me location and a liberal atmosphere anyday.
Anonymous | 6:23 p.m. Nov. 16, 2007
I have more grandkids that you do!!
Kevin | 8:57 p.m. Nov. 16, 2007
What's the Eagles song that ends "you call someplace paradise, kiss it
goodbye?"
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