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Whittingham regrets Utes' onside kick

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Two things!!!!! | 3:39 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
1-Who is to say that Wyo couldn't score 40 points in the second half and make it a close game; remember the Buffalo and Houston game! The games wasn't over, and it wasn't the fourth Q so anything could still happen.

2-This was a game situation were Kyle could see how his onside kicking game was coming along; maybe Utah will have to use the onside kicking against NM or BYU, and so Kyle was seeing how his players would respond to game-time situation.

Bottom line is:

Kyle could have put Mack back in the game during the fourth Q just so he could pad his stats, but he didn't. Everyone and their dog was playing in the fourth Q because Kyle had class and wasn't trying to run up the score.

As for the onside kick-
Anything goes in football, this isn't pee-wee football were kids cry.(Unless your Beck)

PS I remember many times when Beck/Harline/Brown were still in the game in the fourth Q. when they were winning by more the 20+ points. How much class does Bronce have?
Still Realistic Utah fan | 3:40 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
To Realistic Y fan - Your argument makes no sense. BYU's game plan is to pass. Great. Everyone knows that. But when the game is put away, do you change the game plan a little to run the clock down? Answer however you would like. If I take your argument, then Utah just followed its game plan. They had two weeks of preparation and came into the game knowing they would be running trick plays and, yes, even an onside kick. So you are now attacking that team for running their game plan. Can you honestly tell yourself that last year, when BYU was leading Utah State 31-0 with 2 minutes left in the fourth quarter, that it was classy to have Jo Beck throw a touchdown pass to Johnny Harline? Please realize that it doesn't matter how you do it, running up the score is running up the score. Maybe BYU thought USU would score 32 points in the last 2 minutes. Whatever reason, they ran up the score!! I personally think if you are going to play div I football, your job is to go out and win games, not make other people feel good about losing games.
Ute Fans | 3:48 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Wow what a display of childish behavior, kind of like Whit's little melt-down at the end of the "Caught for the Touchdown!" game last year.

Ute fans must be so proud!

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Re:hypocrites | 3:51 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
What Whittingham did was not classless. But it calls into question his intentions. Imagine how Mendenhall would be precieved by the Utes and their fans if BYU was up by 30 or 40 and the same thing occured?

And why is what Coach Glenn considered disrepectful by giving into a fan and predicting a win at Utah?
Saturday's game was big for both Utah and Wyoming. Wyo has hit the skids as of late and beating a good Utah team would put some fire back into a struggling team. As for his flipping Kyle off for the onside?
That was classless.

And what right does Utah or its fans think Wyo was the instigator over the bad feelings that came out of last year's game. Utah played just plain lousey. Or doesn't that count for something???

And speaking of disrepectful? Remember when John Beck excitedly exclaimed to the Cougar faithful about going up to SL and beating the utes? If I remember correctly, the Ute faithful considered that disrepectful, even considered his comments a prediction?

But he backed it up, even personally.

And how many predictions have we heard about a guarenteed victory over BYU, weeks before the game?

Hypocrites!!!!!!
Amazing | 4:04 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
I am amazed at how many cougars feel they need to show how much better they are than everybody else. They have run up the score on countless teams over the years.

Think of it this way. Is it better to OD on illegal drugs or on prescription meds? Either way you are dead.

Is it better to run up the score by constantly throwing touchdown passes when the game is out of hand or by kicking on onside kick when the other team is not expecting it? Either way, you ran up the score.

Fact of the Day, there is nothing wrong with running up the score in DIV IA football. This is not little league anymore. Do it however you like. Just don't attack one team for doing it differently than your team does it. Because no one likes a hypocrite. Coaches are not paid to make others feel good about themselves, they are paid to win. Perhaps the childish behavior is thinking that only Whittingham does it.
the thing i love | 4:06 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
I love how horrible people are towards coaches. Win or lose It is a hateful society..It makes me wonder if sports brings out the best in us or the worst in us. Youser. I am amazed
Anonymous | 4:07 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Holding back on a team when they are down is just as much a slap in the face as is running up the score.

Whittingham should have had his starters play their best for the first half - hold nothing back and leave it all on the field - then systematically put in young players to give them experience and use the second half as an opportunity to build for the future - again, coaching his subs to give it all you've got and leave it all on the field!

That is the classy thing to do. Win!
The Final Word | 4:11 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Good victory Utah and congrats to Kyle. Next time your up by a good margin you probably won't try an onsides kick. Point taken.

I disagree with Kyle's decision but far worse in my book is the single finger salute by Wyoming's coach. That is classless. Kyle's decision was just a poor decision. I don't see people up in arms over Wyoming's coach's decision.

Kyle is a great person and turning into a great coach. Utah has a good team and should be congratulated on a great season. And I am a BYU fan, just trying to be objective. And I don�t hate Utah, I even cheer for them on many occasions. Their success helps the MWC and helps the Y. Like it or not.
Off of the Wagon | 4:13 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
I have been a huge supporter of Kyle on this site all season long, but after the display of childish behavior on saturday I am off. I am frankly very dissapointed. Kyle has been around long enough to know that what goes around comes around. The game in wyoming last year wasnt 40-0 at half. It was almost half that. The utes should have eaten clock. I am dissapointed, and I thought Kyle had more class than that. If my son were being recruited by the Utes, they would no longer be a consideration. The Utes lose alot of seniors this year, good luck getting anybody to feal sorry for you next year. Saturday morning I hoped the Utes would win out, by saturday night I hoped they would lose the last 2. Kyle, its going to take alot to win back the trust of alot of people.
Wil | 4:18 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
I have a serious problem with the BYU and Wyoming cry babies that have no clue about what class is. I am a big BYU fan and see nothing but smart coaching from Whittingham. As a tennis coach I encourage my players to become more aggressive and practice different styles of play when they are way up in a match. Why not practice an on-side kick when you have nothing to lose in a real game time situation. Those that know anything about football would know that an on-side kick heavily favors the opponent. Why anyone from Wyoming would be opposed to that is just not logical, unless they consider themselves an extremely inferior team that can't handle an opportunity that would provide them with better field position. I have no doubt that the BYU and Utah coaching staff and players would have no problem with how Utah played the entire game. I just hope that BYU coaches show the same sense that Utah showed when they play Wyoming on Saturday.
#1 UTAH FAN | 4:22 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
The Utes rule!! We have clearly proven that we are the hottest team in the league, even after losing several of our key players at the beginning of the year. We have had big momentum and we'll certainly qualify for another bowl bid this year. And of course, we will win that bowl, as we have in all of the last bowls we went to, unlike some loser school down south who has only won one bowl game in the last decade. That said, however, Whit has me perplexed; his latest antics with running all of the trick plays including an onside kick were totally uncalled for--not even BYU does that kind of stuff. This was embarrassing to the Ute faithful. If we are to build a legacy on the hill like BYU has, then we need to watch our actions and stand for something other than poor sportsmanship. Onward to battle with New Mexico!!!
How embarassing | 4:31 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
After reading all of these posts, all I have to say is "Shame on you!".

Who am I speaking to? The majority of the childish BYU & Utah fans that are posting here. Come on, get a GRIP! Grow up! I can't believe the comments that many/most of you are making. To the 10% who make logical, good posts, please disregard this message. To the rest of you, get a life! (and go cougars!)
Iron Axe | 4:34 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Utah Man you are right, Coach Witt have said he made a poor judgement...so all of you who wants to sacrifice coach Witt, please get a life! Utes are on to New Mexico, the game was last weekend, I believed that he wanted to run the score and onside kick and all of the above, and he really made a bad judgement,but life goes on, we all make mistakes one way or another, each of us have our own Goliath and it depends from how you are willing to face your Goliath, which brings me to my next subject..Y in 2 weeks, Utes will have a Goliath with XXXXL and a Mt. to climb.....watch out the Cougars are coming.
Blue Who | 4:53 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Who really cares about byu fooball----and by the way , I really don't think that you fans really want to air BYU's dirty classless laundry
MWC Champs | 4:58 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Good job on the Poinsettia Bowl.
Re: Off The Wagon | 5:01 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
I'm sorry you'd step into your son's life and decide that he couldn't attend the U. No doubt you sleep in BYU blanket (the old color before they stole Utah State's colors) Don't use this board as troll please. If you want to pretend be obvious and so over the top sarcastic we can get a good laugh. Trying to fool us into thinking you were ever partial is not shall we say "classy"
G | 5:06 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Classy coaches do classy things. Witt and Glenn deserve one another.
HEY BYU FANS | 5:24 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Isn't Coach Whitt an ALUM of your school? Isn't he alum of the BYU football program? Isn't he member of your church?? I guess i could say with all the other bull crap i have hurd today from this matter that coach Whitt decesion to do a onsides kick has reflection on you guys since he played for you all, but it doesnt.. I'm going to give you a taste of your own medicine "Zoobies"... Doesn't the scriptures teach he with sin among you let him cast the first stone.. KEEP on throwing those stones and WHITT you "zoobies" I'm not here to argue whether what he did was classy or not.. But i know one thing Kyle admitted he was wrong... So quit throwing stones at him.. Because i know that the mormon faith teacher forgivness.. Isnt that what your about BYU?
Whitless | 5:27 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Once again, Kyle gives us another reason to be grateful that he is at Utah.

Whitless was classless.

Zoobie hater | 5:35 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Hey Zoobies - get over it - what does BYU have to do with this game anyway...leave it up to all of the red-necks from Cowboy country to whine about Utah riding them into the ground like a rodeo cowboy riding a wild horse into the ground.

Utes are the hottest team in the MWC - even if it took them 3 or 4 games to get it going. Zoobies beware, once we spank the lowly Lobos, you're next....and I will be hoping that we DO run up the score on you.
Let's move forward | 5:45 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Let's move forward BYU fans. WWJD? Remember Cougars, don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.
Are you kidding me? | 5:52 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
At what point did competition turn Politically Correct? If you beat another team 150 to 10, maybe that just means the other team needs to go back home and practice a little harder!! Why should one team feel bad for beating their competition? Wyoming, you got beat! Get over it!

Go Cougars!!
Gesture | 5:52 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
As a fan, I have travelled to Wyoming for games, where the crowd was chanting F you Utah. I was also spit on after the game by Wyoming fans, same sort of thing when Cowboy fans come up here. I'm sure they show BYU fans the same resentment. Believe it or not they just hate the state of Utah and BYU fans should focus on the game ahead and finish the shallacking the Utes just gave the Cowboys, because they certainly are capable. Let us all show a little class by running up the score on a classless team with a classless program and a classless coach who runs his mouth and then gets the worst beatdown hes ever recieved and gives the middle finger and K Witt is called the classless one. I say Cougs run up the score too.
finger wagging | 5:53 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
I have to laugh at all you "coaches", "parents of players" and "previously proud Kyle supporters" that are wagging your fingers at the Utes. Some of your comments are hillarious....."I won't recommend my son for the program"......"I won't recommend my players for the program".
Kyle is a very good coach. He is a very good role model; ask any player on his team, most of them love him like a second father. News flash: you're dumping on an entire football program and coaching staff because of ONE (failed I might add) onside kick. That tells me a lot about you "fans". Most likely you are all Y fans that are scared to death for the 24th or you are Wyoming fans ashamed at how your team played (gotta tell you, I felt for you guys).
Either way, quit with the holier than thou talk, its getting old.
The Duke | 5:54 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
When I read the article, my first response was this; thats just good ole classic utah. And he did it because he knew his fans would love it. I sat next to a Ute fan on a plane once on the way home from a BYU game this year, and he came off with that exact same stentch, the stentch of arrogance and pride. He said the Utes will beat the cougars 50 - 14 this year. Wow, nice call buddy and nice call Whittingham your living up to the expectations of your trashy fans.

Fruit Heights Cougar Fan | 6:02 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
I thought this was Division 1 football?

Kyle is responsible for the program at the University of Utah, and no other program. Sorry if it offends some of you, but football is a sport of ONE HUNDRED PERCENT EFFORT from every member of the organization until graduation.

Bronco sat on the ball against TCU to prevent a fumble. By taking the knee, the cougars insured the victory. John Robinson (UNLV) allowed his players to talk him into going for a touchdown from inches out with no time left a few years back, the RB was stripped of the ball and it was run all the way in by the other team for the winning TD.

Classy for Kyle to apologize, but he didn't need to for my sake, or any other adult male over eighteen years old. Same with coach Glenn, I'd have flipped Kyle off too, but coach Glenn is responsible for Wyomings program.

If you allow your team to back off (many do... SMU Holiday Bowl?) it can come back to bite you, and that isn't fair to your team or the fans.

Do the cougars need to apologize now for Thrashing the Utes in two weeks?
to: All BYU posters | 6:07 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
You want to know what's not classy? All your athletes getting arrested and quitting the team and being suspended...etc, etc, etc. It's been happening much more than any Ute players as of late. Look on the inner man before you go trashing Kyle for an onsides kick. This conference and fans will never get past the Mountain West mediocre mentality if they think trick plays and on sides kicks are a big deal. Take that to any other big conference and they'd laugh at you, than walk all over you. Get with it zoobies!! go utes!!
Reminder | 6:15 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Perhaps some history might help us armchair football coaches gain some perspective...I sat in the North end zone when Scott Mitchell and the Utes hosted Air Force. At half time the score was Air Force 7, Utah 45. In 2 quarters, Mitchell had thrown for approximately 500 yards. Utah lost that game 49 to 45. Mitchell finished with around 520 yards.

This is college football people; a team does not let up until victory, if that is in fact the objective, is complete. The opposing team's objective is to stop them. Seems to me that coach Witt came away from Saturday's game knowing the Utes need to work on executing the on-side kick. As for the decision...offering an opponent excellent field position on a kickoff is a big risk to take and, in my opinion, does not by itself translate to "classless" as so many suggest. The U-Defense is now 10 quarters without giving up a touchdown. The team is confident, executing in all critical aspects of the game, and seem to be having fun again. Congratulations Coach Wittingham on a job well done!
Tyrel | 6:31 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
LOL I only had to read the first 4 comments and I'm already disgusted. It's always Wyoming's fault. Great to know we have so much love from our neighbors to the southwest. Get over yourselves Utah.

Wyoming is better in every way, and that's why you're so "butt-hurt" all the time.
chipper | 6:32 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Maybe Whittingham is classless. Look who he learned from, Lavell Edwards, the King of running up the score.

Who can tell the number of times Edwards was still passing the ball well into the 4th quarter when his team was up by 3, 4 or more touchdowns? It happened ALL THE TIME.

How about bringing your QB back into the game against Utah to throw a few more passes so he can break a record. At least Whittingham didn't put Mack back in just so he could keep his streak of 100 yard games going.
Loved it! | 6:34 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
What is ever one whining about. These teams are geared up to play 60 minutes of football and anything less is a disappointment to us fans that go to watch that 60 minutes of football and those players that dedicate COUNTLESS hours to play their 60 minutes a week. I thought the on -sides kick was truly sportsmanlike. It gave Wyoming the best field position they had all game!!!! Thank you Utah for the funnest game I have watched all year! Go Utah and keep pounding them!!!
Class | 6:33 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Was it also classy when BYU basketball Coach Reed told Chris Burgess that he'd be letting down the Mormon population if he didnt come play at BYU? Is it classy that BYU ran the score up on the Utes for years? Dont throw stones if you live in a glass house people. Is it classy for a coach to give the finger to a crowd, team and STATE. Challenge: BYU run up the score on the Cowboys and finish it, you certainly are capable. Why you ask? Well any Utah or BYU fan whos ever met a Cowboy fan knows how classy they are. I got spit on one year by a Cowboy fan, but then again I had soda and popcorn dumped on my head 2 years ago when the Utes beat the Cougs in Provo at LES. What is class Cougars?
UTEHATER | 6:35 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
If the utes were that upset over the guarantee just think what they would be saying if they were on the other side of this. Just remember Witt, it is like you said, you are held accountable. Remember that when you get fired.
Anybody take a look? | 6:37 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
The invitation to add a comment says:
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Well, this site is guilty of four of the five no-no's!
But I'll bet you this; This post won't make it!
Classless? | 6:42 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Just a couple of points. You can always excuse a player for making inappropriate remarks but for a seasoned couch to garantee a victory - what a mistake!

I seem to remember several years ago BYU winning games by 50+ to zero - BYU fans didn't seem to think that was running up the score even though they kept passing the ball. I think BYU fans are just jealous!!!

However, the biggest ones lacking class are BYU fans posting on a University of Utah story. Coug fans post on your own stories!!!

GO UTES!!!
What?! | 6:43 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
I can't believe what I am reading! All of this touchy feely garbage makes me sick. Why is it that we are so afraid of winning anymore? We have been brow beaten for so long by a generation of "picked last" kids grown into adults that we think winning is a bad thing. Bag that!
Win! How do you get points in the BCS if you are not the select few? You win by HUGE margins and your rank goes up. I say win big or let someone else play that wants to win.
Those people who are afraid of competition should form book clubs, shut up, and let the rest of us have a good drag out knock down on the gridiron!
I Second That | 6:47 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Right on point, to: All BYU Posters. Team character is a reflection of leadership. The arrests and suspensions are a black eye to everything BYU stands for and are very telling of the underlying integrity of their program. As is so typical of BYU and its goofy fans, as long as they win a football game, they will thump their chest and tell you how great they are.
BYU fan | 7:04 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
I find it laughable all the Ute fans who questioned BYU and their high scoring wins. And now they are defending their own win which took many trick plays including a late onside kick. Why would we be "jealous", we're in sole possession of 1st place in the MWC?
Virtue | 7:11 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
A posting from this morning is the pits. Read this:

Classless | 6:49 a.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Whittingham - classless? Yewts - classless? I never knew. And by the way, why does it take a guarantee from the other team to motivate the yewts?

This posting is classless; disrespectful; insensitive; and a racial slur. There is no honorable reason to refer to Utes as YEWTS. Even in this case, when not directly referring to the aboriginal group, but to a school's sports' nickname it is highly offensive and disrespectful.

Maybe that's what you intended. I am disappointed this newspaper continues to post this person's work.
Kyles a Stud | 7:11 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Coming from a big Cougar fan...

If I spend a ton of money on tickets, parking, gas, and Caffeine Free Diet Coke, and Utah is up 60-0 for the BYU Bowl, and I stay, knowing that the traffic is going to suck, and Kyle or Bronco just let the air out of the ball, I'm gonna flip them both off.

It's a game, and if either team quits, that will be classless.
Be afraid | 7:13 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Attention all BYU fans...
Wyoming 6th ranked defense in the country gets beaten 50-0!!!
Utah vs #11 UCLA 44-6 UTES victory
BYU your strength of schedule fails in comparison to the UTES.
We're hot baby, and were hungry for some religion. Realize that if the Utes play like they did agaisnt Wyoming and UCLA, you have NO CHANCE!!! and you know it...youre scared. I cant wait to win at LaVell Edwards Stadium, and then your fans can dump popcorn and soda all over us classless Ute fans like you usually do!!!
Blkmtnute | 7:13 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Who cares! Utah is now tied for 4th natinally -defense(pts. allowed/game) and 8th passing defense. Way to go Whit!!!
RE:Be Afraid | 7:28 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Like that's ever happend to you...

I've been to 10+ BYU Utah games at LES, never seen a Ute Fan walk out with Popcorn and Soda Dumped on them.

You must be thinking of RES.



But if you will post your seat number and wear your red sweatshirt...

(serious, I'll bet "be afraid" has never ponied up for anything but the cheap student section tickets).
RE:Virtue | 7:34 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Get off it.

Racial slur. Then all of the posts from the Ute fans are Speciesist Slurs...

Over the top or what?
Virginia fan | 7:44 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
We can lose two games, one of them to Wyoming, and still be in the top 25 BCS rankings and be talking about a national championship and a real bowl game with a real payout. Utah can beat Wyoming by 50 points and all you can talk about is an onside kick and the Poinsetta bowl. Pathetic! Go Hoos (UVa for those of you in the West who don't follow real football teams)!!
Running Up The Score | 7:49 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
I have no problem with running up the score, or teams that win by 50 points. However I don't recall a blowout that included an onside kick with the score 43-0. It was a bad call they should have punted the ball and won the game 43-0.
Amnesia | 7:52 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
The only thing I seem to remember about BYU and the yewts is Beck to Harline, no time left. I loved watching twittingham cry like a little girl. Prediction: Cougs - 56 yewts - 0
Great job coach! | 7:56 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
Kyle Whittingham is a stand-up coach and individual; I am proud to have him on our side.

It's clear all you Zoobsters posting are freakin' out about the 24th (nothing personal, but I would be too if I were you.) Just some friendly advice regarding your posts: Quit. You look pretty silly condemning Coach Whit after he apologized. The holier-than-thou line is getting pretty tired.

Keep it up Coach. Go UTES!
Phil | 8:39 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
I would have done as Wyoming's coach did. It looks like the team most hated in the MWC is Utah, not because they the best, but because they are jerks.
Laughable | 8:50 p.m. Nov. 12, 2007
All the who-tah fans telling the "zoobies" to get off this "board" are laughable! Get off THEIR board? This is a NEWSPAPER not a membership board. Hahahahaha! How absolutely hilarious!!

I don't think Kyle's apology was sincere at all. And all the who-tah fans justifying his actions are a joke. So coach Kyle was just "practicing" an on-side kick? I guess that means Coach Glenn was only telling coach Kyle that he missed it by 1 yard.

So now all the yoots think that BYU is doomed against the little brothers up north (BUNs) come Nov 24? You mean like you thought we were doomed against TCU after they beat UNM 37-0? Uh-huh...

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