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  • On-side kick the coach
    Nov. 16, 2007 1:13 p.m.

    An on-side kick when the team is ahead by 50 points to zilcho is not "guaranteeing a win,"
    it's a shameless exhibition of low behavior and an embarassement to anyone with any class whatsoever.
    Fire the coach and recruit somebody with class (I'd look in the Midwest somewhere)

  • USU grad
    Nov. 16, 2007 12:26 p.m.

    You whiners from Utah and BYU. At least you get wins to crow about, or against, with each other.

  • Ute Alumni
    Nov. 16, 2007 10:03 a.m.

    It has been nearly a week and I still don't see why guaranteeing a win is "classless" like so many infer in these comments. I don't like Kyle being unsportsmanlike (which he was), I still wish him luck however. Let's be cool about how we win games and not act like it is the first time we have been ahead in a game. I think the way the Utes responded to the guarantee shows the inferiority complex that I noticed while attending the U. Go Utes. Act like you should, the top class university that you are.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 16, 2007 6:41 a.m.

    "Trick Play?"

    Situations don't make the man - they reveal him.

    And what has been revealed is another reason why people view Utahns as plastic.

    I'm surprised he didn't grab the ball and go home.

  • Pathetic Cougars
    Nov. 16, 2007 2:33 a.m.

    You guys are the worst, seriously. You as a sports culture and self rightoeus people are more competitive than anyone but you try to pull out the red flags and say what should have been done. It was one stupid onsides kick, stop making such a big deal about it. Everyone laughs at you all over the country cause this stuff is normal. It's football folks! The Utes are playing hard and pulling out what they can to do well and have fun. I think the classless thing is the star wars milking the cow cheer and gesture you do when you're on defense. That's aweful!

  • Kiss my class
    Nov. 15, 2007 4:07 p.m.

    It was as classy and incredible as anything. Why should trick plays be limited to the weak teams that aren't good enough to execute them anyways? They shouldn't be a last chance haven't-got-a-prayer kind of a thing. Let's practice them against real teams, and they'll be effective when we need them.

  • Get some class
    Nov. 15, 2007 8:52 a.m.

    Typical cheap-shot Utah football tactic.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 15, 2007 6:11 a.m.

    Onside kicks are a typical maneuver in Utah football.

    They rely on plastic rather than substance.

  • re: onside kick, etc.
    Nov. 14, 2007 6:42 p.m.

    PLEASE! Had Coach Whit took it easy on WY, and had WY made a comeback, then everybody would've been asking for his head saying that a good coach would've made certain that the game was in hand before letting up! This was the same team that badly beat VA who is leading the ACC. If you don't think that they could've made a comeback in the 3rd quarter, then you are the one that is disrespecting WY!

    An onside kick is a low percentage play that courts extreme risk in that the opposing team ends up with excellent field position. It is only used when a coach is desperate or very sure that he can make the play. Auburn's coach used it against SC last year while beating SC. Spurrier was very impressed, and gave a nod of approval to the Auburn coach for having burned him. It did not work for the Utes, and gave WY one of their best shots at scoring the whole game.

    This was no different than any of the other trick plays used against WY. I think the offense should've shown no let up until the 4th when it was impossible to comeback!

  • bluenwhite
    Nov. 14, 2007 6:33 p.m.

    Was it the correct thing to do? That is debateable. I wouldn't have done it. I am glad the Wyoming coach was punished for his gesture. My question is why Utah struggles to fill or even get close to filling their stadium for home games? Come on ute fans, if you are so die hard GO TO THE GAMES!!
    I dislike Wyoming almost as much as I dislike the U, and I am predicting that the Cougs will win out and finish in the top 25.

    Predictions:
    BYU 31 Wyoming 10

    BYU 24 Utah 17

    BYU 38 San Diego 10

    GO COUGS!!!

  • Big 10 fan
    Nov. 14, 2007 1:33 p.m.

    "Whittingham regrets the onside kick."
    I wonder how many Ute fans regret having him as coach. If you want a class act as a coach - you might think about looking in the Midwest for a good coach.

  • False Pride?
    Nov. 14, 2007 9:02 a.m.

    An on-side kick when the game is clearly won, is the same as a sucker punch.

    Nothing go be proud of Utahns.

  • Horsetush Mendanhall
    Nov. 13, 2007 9:05 p.m.

    My dear Kyle,
    Please have mercy on us, the holier-than-thou people of the school down south. Don't kick our hineys like you did Wyoming's. We promise to lose in San Diego after the Holy War to let your share the title if your don't pull out the onside when you're killing us 73-3.

    Love,
    Bronchitis

  • Horsebutt Mendenhall
    Nov. 13, 2007 8:58 p.m.

    Please have mercy on us, the holier-than-thou people of the school down south. Don't kick our hineys like you did Wyoming's. We promise to lose in San Diego after the Holy War to let your share the title if your don't pull out the onside when you're killing us 73-3.

  • dennis
    Nov. 13, 2007 6:09 p.m.

    Uh, GRider,
    A lot of us don't exactly see an on-side kick as "going for the jugular."

    Sort of a wimpy thing to do, actually.

  • GRider
    Nov. 13, 2007 5:16 p.m.

    I want to see a coach go for the jugular and attack at every opportunity, every game, every play.

    Fact of the matter...Utah won another game and will win the next three (counting the bowl game).

    I want Whittingham, Andersen and Ludwig to go for the jugular all the time the Utes are playing. Never quit until the whistle blows at the end of the game regardless of the score.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 13, 2007 3:48 p.m.


    Whittingham should have spent some time in parochial school like Urbin Meyers did.

    It might have given him some degree of class and dignity.

  • UTE
    Nov. 13, 2007 3:12 p.m.

    I personally love all the "class" comments coming from BYU fans and how Bronco would have never done this. How about throwing an 18 yard TD pass with your starting QB (ok, ok it was Jason Beck not John Beck and I am not sure there was a back up to the back up) with 2 minutes left in the GAME to your STARTING tight end Johnny Harline to make the score 38-0? By the way, that school was another in-state institution, Utah State. Running up the score? Classless? Thanks for the example Bronco and BYU. All class. The flagship of the conference.....LOL.

  • GO UTES!!!
    Nov. 13, 2007 2:39 p.m.

    OK. We've beat this horse dead. Now let's just leave it to all those cougar fans with their fake outrage and their self-congratulatory hubris while the rest of us turn our attention to what is REALLY important...the 7-3 (4-2) New Mexico Lobos will be visiting us this weekend. We're still jockeying for position in the MWC, and these guys aren't going to roll over for us like the Cowboys did. They're playing some good football.

    GO UTES!!!

  • Coach
    Nov. 13, 2007 12:06 p.m.

    Coach Whitt only apologized after his wife got on hit tale. Good thing coach married a good woman.

  • Tarheel Ute
    Nov. 13, 2007 12:05 p.m.

    50 to 0. Perhaps it was a good thing I was unable to watch the game. A game were good sportsmanship was not exhibited by the hosts, albeit following some poorly timed remarks guaranteeing victory by Wyoming's coach prior to the game. The otherwise decisive win by the Utes was overshadowed by the Utes aggressive play once the early lead would have normally required a little civility. Granted it is difficult to tell even your second and third stringers to hold back, as the Utes attempted in most part in the second half. However the damage was done, and now a good win is tarnished and what little good graces gained after turning around their season has vanished. Wyoming may have deserved to be beaten on the field, but did not deserve to be humiliated, regardless of the their couches comments.

  • thanks kyle
    Nov. 13, 2007 11:58 a.m.

    for giving us something to fuss about this week. The byu and utah game isnt until next week and we dont want to waste all the smack talk this week. Now that we have something for everyone to talk about we can save all the good stuff for the big show.

  • sparks24
    Nov. 13, 2007 10:32 a.m.

    This whole thing is not about BYU VS UTAH it is about a coach doing something stupid period. I have been a high school coach for 18 years what Coach Whit did was simply wrong and to defend it makes you that are look stupid. Leave your red eyes at the door and just say it was stupid and move on.

  • Chicago Cougar
    Nov. 13, 2007 7:34 a.m.

    I watched the Utah game, and I thought it was a classless act, but the most classless thing about it is that BYU fans and not Wyoming fans are unable to forgive and let go. It's not really classy to generalize an entire fan base and school based on the actions of a few. Let it go. KW apologized. What more do you expect? Go Cougs! Beat those Utes in 2 weeks!

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 12, 2007 11:52 p.m.

    There is only one thing that I am getting by all of this controversy. BYU is afraid, very afraid (of the DARKSIDE). Let's have a repeat performance this week and get another W against New Mexico.

    GO UTES!

  • NIce
    Nov. 12, 2007 11:43 p.m.

    Way to go Coach K.W!! The real side of you finally comes out !!

  • Mike Gourley
    Nov. 12, 2007 11:21 p.m.

    I think most people are missing the point in my opinion. I don't think Whitt ran the score up. They only scored 10 points in the second half. What Whitt did was classes and embarassing. I think it is a lot worse than just running the score up.

  • Ute shootin
    Nov. 12, 2007 10:51 p.m.

    Wow, BYU fans are just in here crying, trying to make Witt look bad so they can make themselves believe they have the better coach, well forget about it you are stuck with the second hand trash. Witt chose the classier program, and also the more successful program that has dominated BYU over the years.

  • RE: Trick-Schmick
    Nov. 12, 2007 10:44 p.m.

    Please excuse my football ignorance maybe someone can help me out...when a hand-off is faked, isn't that a form of a trick play? When the offense huddles and calls a play, are they not trying to figure out how best to move the ball down the field without letting the opposing defense know what they are going to do? Is that not a form of trickery? If BUY fans pride themselves in not having trick plays, why doesn't their offense announce to the defense what they are going to do and then see if they are good enough to execute successfully?

    A flea-flicker or hook and ladder are very entertaining plays to watch and demonstrate confidence and a willingness to take a risk. Let's face it, folks, if BYU had such plays in their play book, they would be talking like it is the greatest thing since sliced bread because that's what BYU fans do. BYU doesn't have them, they can't execute them, and therefore, their fans who espouse only what their institution says is ok, don't like them.

  • think about it...
    Nov. 12, 2007 10:31 p.m.

    Hey byu guys (and other self righteous posters), better check out your own closets before chucking too many more rocks... Remember, what would Jesus do?

  • Re; Laugable
    Nov. 12, 2007 10:10 p.m.

    You wanna talk about crying...John Beck two years ago. Now that's weak! haha. He's a baby. Not even tough enough to start on a team that's 0-8. Go Utes. I hate BYU and always will. And not to mention crying let's talk about criminals...now that's not very classy on BYU's part. Honor code doesn't even exist for football players.

  • chester blue
    Nov. 12, 2007 10:05 p.m.

    Coach Kyle made a poor mistake and he admitted it. Was he put up to the apology? That we don't know for sure. He is a good coach and he's definitely proved it this year. I thought the Utes wouldn't win more than 5-6 games after all of their injuries. But Kyle has done a tremendous job up there. The on-sides kick was ridiculous though. Being up 43-0 and going for it there? I would've given him the double bird. It really was classless and he knows it. He still is an excellent coach by ripping off six in a row like they have. They do have real good talent and despite the record in '06 you knew that Utah's A-team would compete against BYU. I see another great game in LES and I'm curious as to how Vegas will pick this one. Right now, they may give Utah a 3.5 advantage but BYU will end up being picked to win by 3 1/2 points. Can't wait for the game. GO COUGS!!!

  • East Coast Ute
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:52 p.m.

    I am amazed at how many BYU fanatics are commenting on a Utah-Wyoming game and attacking the character of the Utah coach. Sounds like fear, with maybe some hatred thrown in. Not even close to what BYU represents itself to be. Maybe BYU is not what it represents itself to be. A BYU friend recently told me he thinks everyone hates BYU because once upon a time they had some really good teams. Not true. Many teams have dominated and been respected. Just read the comments above for a hint at the real reason.

  • re:re:Be afraid
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:44 p.m.

    Actually 20 yard line 5 row season ticket holder for 20 years baby. Love it, I'm jacked for the game on the 24th. Best rivalry in the country.

  • Arizona Ute
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:42 p.m.

    Went to Byu, graduated from UofU, read all these posts. I root for both teams unless they play each other. The "classless" ones, the ones that I have lost respect for are all the BYU fans on this post who have ridiculed and denigrated and made the incredibly childish, tasteless and totally stupid remarks. It's just a football game and somehow I had higher expectations of BYU fans- particularly given your religious affiliation. To say I am disappointed doesn't begin to cover it. I enjoy a good football game- but that's just it- it's ONLY a game!!! The fate of the free world doesn't rest on it's outcome!

  • Damaged goods
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:38 p.m.

    from Hey BYU Fans: "Isn't Coach Whitt an ALUM of your school? Isn't he alum of the BYU football program? Isn't he member of your church??"

    Uh, yeah you're right on all those points. He used to be a pretty good guy. WHAT IN THE WORLD DID U GUYS DO TO HIM??! Now it's going to take years for us to reform him after he joins Bronco's staff as the D coordinator, thanks a bunch.

  • new to football
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:36 p.m.

    Please be patient with me (I am new to American football).

    According to football etiquette, what is an acceptable margin of victory?

    If a team is ahead by 3 points would it be good etiquette to punt or fall on a knee when it was your teams turn to run or play catch with the ball?

    Like in boxing, is it possible for the losing team to throw in the towel so that the team that is ahead wont try to score any more points? Was the towel thrown onto the field so no come back would be possible?

    Please clarifyI thought it was a good idea to make goals? The great American pastime is so confusing.

  • kewg fans....
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:32 p.m.

    you guys feel threatened. utah is playing better football than byu. there is less than 2 weeks until the big game. deny it allllll you want. but in your heart of hearts, everyone single one of you kewg heads are scared about the 24th. you will talk big up until kickoff. thats what you guys do best. talk big. but your big time talking, your fasting, and your praying will NOT help you this year. good luck passing against the best secondary in the MWC. good luck trying to stop the leading RB in the conference. good luck trying to stop the U receivers, when you have one of the worst secondaries in the conference. and last, but not least, i wish max hall good luck with the likes of stevenson sylvester, steve tate, sean smith, robert johnson, joe jianoni, GABE LONG, and nai fotu coming at him all day long ;) good luck players and fans alike. lets see if good 'ol bronco can keep his finger down when utah is doing onside kicks in the 3rd quarter while pitching another blowout shutout

  • Trick-Schmick
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:28 p.m.

    I don't get all the cougar ire over the trick plays in the Utah game.

    Please some "fully invested" cougar help me understand why scoring via a gadget play is less respectful than scoring via a standard running or passing play?

    It's not as if the fumbleruski or the reverse or the flea-flicker or the hook and ladder comes with some kind of guarantee.

    If they did, everyone would be using them. Even the unimaginitive (but as we're constantly being told) 'classy' Bronco Mendenhall.

  • irondori
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:06 p.m.

    Gene -- you are an alumnus, not an alumni. But they probably didn't teach you that @ the U...

    Btw, would be interested to know in what emotion Coach K.W. was caught up to persuade him to make the onside-kick call... I think he deserved the finger, er gesture.

  • Go Witt
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:04 p.m.

    Wyoming is already the worst place in the conference to play. Now the Utes can look forward to next year at Wyoming. Talk about bulletin board material the Cowboys will be hungry. I predict now Witt's little hissy fit costs the Utes a game. Maybe not to Wyoming but maybe to a key injury by an angry cowboy with a late hit.

  • Seattle
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:55 p.m.

    The end result is that Utah and Willingham has lost some respect from fans and coaches in the conference. Now, he has his players all jacked up to play New Mexico and especially BYU. That is exactly what he wants.

    BYU better watch out in two weeks. Utah has been the underdog several times vs BYU yet they still seem to rise up and beat them.

    If BYU has the conference championship basically locked up in 2 weeks do you think they will be as motivated as Utah to dominate the game? I doubt it.

    Better be careful.

  • No Heat!
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:51 p.m.

    All the fans of the little brother in red can defend Kryle all they want but he defended his actions as heat of the situation. Come on, what heat?? Wyo was beat like an ugly step child and the game was over. There was no "heat" in the game when he called for the onside kick. Don't try to compare it to running your offense and scoring a touchdown either. This was a blantant attempt to embarrass the pokes!
    Anyone who keeps scoring and says, if you don't like it stop us - I have no problem with that. Though the classy thing is to hold the score down. In this situation, this is not running the offense. It was childish 5 year old behavior and Glenn's gesture was as bad or worse. Kryle's behavior is being criticized nationwide. His behavior is an embarrassment to good sportsmanship -which is what he should be teaching his players and we should all be teaching our youth. I am troubled by any fan of the little brother in red who is also not embarrassed by his actions. Please, stand for something! Is this really a lesson you want you child to learn?

  • Laughable
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:50 p.m.

    All the who-tah fans telling the "zoobies" to get off this "board" are laughable! Get off THEIR board? This is a NEWSPAPER not a membership board. Hahahahaha! How absolutely hilarious!!

    I don't think Kyle's apology was sincere at all. And all the who-tah fans justifying his actions are a joke. So coach Kyle was just "practicing" an on-side kick? I guess that means Coach Glenn was only telling coach Kyle that he missed it by 1 yard.

    So now all the yoots think that BYU is doomed against the little brothers up north (BUNs) come Nov 24? You mean like you thought we were doomed against TCU after they beat UNM 37-0? Uh-huh...

  • Phil
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:39 p.m.

    I would have done as Wyoming's coach did. It looks like the team most hated in the MWC is Utah, not because they the best, but because they are jerks.

  • Great job coach!
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:56 p.m.

    Kyle Whittingham is a stand-up coach and individual; I am proud to have him on our side.

    It's clear all you Zoobsters posting are freakin' out about the 24th (nothing personal, but I would be too if I were you.) Just some friendly advice regarding your posts: Quit. You look pretty silly condemning Coach Whit after he apologized. The holier-than-thou line is getting pretty tired.

    Keep it up Coach. Go UTES!

  • Amnesia
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:52 p.m.

    The only thing I seem to remember about BYU and the yewts is Beck to Harline, no time left. I loved watching twittingham cry like a little girl. Prediction: Cougs - 56 yewts - 0

  • Running Up The Score
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:49 p.m.

    I have no problem with running up the score, or teams that win by 50 points. However I don't recall a blowout that included an onside kick with the score 43-0. It was a bad call they should have punted the ball and won the game 43-0.

  • Virginia fan
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:44 p.m.

    We can lose two games, one of them to Wyoming, and still be in the top 25 BCS rankings and be talking about a national championship and a real bowl game with a real payout. Utah can beat Wyoming by 50 points and all you can talk about is an onside kick and the Poinsetta bowl. Pathetic! Go Hoos (UVa for those of you in the West who don't follow real football teams)!!

  • RE:Virtue
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:34 p.m.

    Get off it.

    Racial slur. Then all of the posts from the Ute fans are Speciesist Slurs...

    Over the top or what?

  • RE:Be Afraid
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:28 p.m.

    Like that's ever happend to you...

    I've been to 10+ BYU Utah games at LES, never seen a Ute Fan walk out with Popcorn and Soda Dumped on them.

    You must be thinking of RES.



    But if you will post your seat number and wear your red sweatshirt...

    (serious, I'll bet "be afraid" has never ponied up for anything but the cheap student section tickets).

  • Blkmtnute
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:13 p.m.

    Who cares! Utah is now tied for 4th natinally -defense(pts. allowed/game) and 8th passing defense. Way to go Whit!!!

  • Be afraid
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:13 p.m.

    Attention all BYU fans...
    Wyoming 6th ranked defense in the country gets beaten 50-0!!!
    Utah vs #11 UCLA 44-6 UTES victory
    BYU your strength of schedule fails in comparison to the UTES.
    We're hot baby, and were hungry for some religion. Realize that if the Utes play like they did agaisnt Wyoming and UCLA, you have NO CHANCE!!! and you know it...youre scared. I cant wait to win at LaVell Edwards Stadium, and then your fans can dump popcorn and soda all over us classless Ute fans like you usually do!!!

  • Kyles a Stud
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:11 p.m.

    Coming from a big Cougar fan...

    If I spend a ton of money on tickets, parking, gas, and Caffeine Free Diet Coke, and Utah is up 60-0 for the BYU Bowl, and I stay, knowing that the traffic is going to suck, and Kyle or Bronco just let the air out of the ball, I'm gonna flip them both off.

    It's a game, and if either team quits, that will be classless.

  • Virtue
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:11 p.m.

    A posting from this morning is the pits. Read this:

    Classless | 6:49 a.m. Nov. 12, 2007
    Whittingham - classless? Yewts - classless? I never knew. And by the way, why does it take a guarantee from the other team to motivate the yewts?

    This posting is classless; disrespectful; insensitive; and a racial slur. There is no honorable reason to refer to Utes as YEWTS. Even in this case, when not directly referring to the aboriginal group, but to a school's sports' nickname it is highly offensive and disrespectful.

    Maybe that's what you intended. I am disappointed this newspaper continues to post this person's work.

  • BYU fan
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:04 p.m.

    I find it laughable all the Ute fans who questioned BYU and their high scoring wins. And now they are defending their own win which took many trick plays including a late onside kick. Why would we be "jealous", we're in sole possession of 1st place in the MWC?

  • I Second That
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:47 p.m.

    Right on point, to: All BYU Posters. Team character is a reflection of leadership. The arrests and suspensions are a black eye to everything BYU stands for and are very telling of the underlying integrity of their program. As is so typical of BYU and its goofy fans, as long as they win a football game, they will thump their chest and tell you how great they are.

  • What?!
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:43 p.m.

    I can't believe what I am reading! All of this touchy feely garbage makes me sick. Why is it that we are so afraid of winning anymore? We have been brow beaten for so long by a generation of "picked last" kids grown into adults that we think winning is a bad thing. Bag that!
    Win! How do you get points in the BCS if you are not the select few? You win by HUGE margins and your rank goes up. I say win big or let someone else play that wants to win.
    Those people who are afraid of competition should form book clubs, shut up, and let the rest of us have a good drag out knock down on the gridiron!

  • Classless?
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:42 p.m.

    Just a couple of points. You can always excuse a player for making inappropriate remarks but for a seasoned couch to garantee a victory - what a mistake!

    I seem to remember several years ago BYU winning games by 50+ to zero - BYU fans didn't seem to think that was running up the score even though they kept passing the ball. I think BYU fans are just jealous!!!

    However, the biggest ones lacking class are BYU fans posting on a University of Utah story. Coug fans post on your own stories!!!

    GO UTES!!!

  • Anybody take a look?
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:37 p.m.

    The invitation to add a comment says:
    "Comments are monitored. Any comments found to be abusive, offensive, off-topic, misrepresentative, more than 200 word or containing URLs will not be posted."
    Well, this site is guilty of four of the five no-no's!
    But I'll bet you this; This post won't make it!

  • UTEHATER
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:35 p.m.

    If the utes were that upset over the guarantee just think what they would be saying if they were on the other side of this. Just remember Witt, it is like you said, you are held accountable. Remember that when you get fired.

  • Class
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:33 p.m.

    Was it also classy when BYU basketball Coach Reed told Chris Burgess that he'd be letting down the Mormon population if he didnt come play at BYU? Is it classy that BYU ran the score up on the Utes for years? Dont throw stones if you live in a glass house people. Is it classy for a coach to give the finger to a crowd, team and STATE. Challenge: BYU run up the score on the Cowboys and finish it, you certainly are capable. Why you ask? Well any Utah or BYU fan whos ever met a Cowboy fan knows how classy they are. I got spit on one year by a Cowboy fan, but then again I had soda and popcorn dumped on my head 2 years ago when the Utes beat the Cougs in Provo at LES. What is class Cougars?

  • Loved it!
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:34 p.m.

    What is ever one whining about. These teams are geared up to play 60 minutes of football and anything less is a disappointment to us fans that go to watch that 60 minutes of football and those players that dedicate COUNTLESS hours to play their 60 minutes a week. I thought the on -sides kick was truly sportsmanlike. It gave Wyoming the best field position they had all game!!!! Thank you Utah for the funnest game I have watched all year! Go Utah and keep pounding them!!!

  • chipper
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:32 p.m.

    Maybe Whittingham is classless. Look who he learned from, Lavell Edwards, the King of running up the score.

    Who can tell the number of times Edwards was still passing the ball well into the 4th quarter when his team was up by 3, 4 or more touchdowns? It happened ALL THE TIME.

    How about bringing your QB back into the game against Utah to throw a few more passes so he can break a record. At least Whittingham didn't put Mack back in just so he could keep his streak of 100 yard games going.

  • Tyrel
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:31 p.m.

    LOL I only had to read the first 4 comments and I'm already disgusted. It's always Wyoming's fault. Great to know we have so much love from our neighbors to the southwest. Get over yourselves Utah.

    Wyoming is better in every way, and that's why you're so "butt-hurt" all the time.

  • Reminder
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:15 p.m.

    Perhaps some history might help us armchair football coaches gain some perspective...I sat in the North end zone when Scott Mitchell and the Utes hosted Air Force. At half time the score was Air Force 7, Utah 45. In 2 quarters, Mitchell had thrown for approximately 500 yards. Utah lost that game 49 to 45. Mitchell finished with around 520 yards.

    This is college football people; a team does not let up until victory, if that is in fact the objective, is complete. The opposing team's objective is to stop them. Seems to me that coach Witt came away from Saturday's game knowing the Utes need to work on executing the on-side kick. As for the decision...offering an opponent excellent field position on a kickoff is a big risk to take and, in my opinion, does not by itself translate to "classless" as so many suggest. The U-Defense is now 10 quarters without giving up a touchdown. The team is confident, executing in all critical aspects of the game, and seem to be having fun again. Congratulations Coach Wittingham on a job well done!

  • to: All BYU posters
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:07 p.m.

    You want to know what's not classy? All your athletes getting arrested and quitting the team and being suspended...etc, etc, etc. It's been happening much more than any Ute players as of late. Look on the inner man before you go trashing Kyle for an onsides kick. This conference and fans will never get past the Mountain West mediocre mentality if they think trick plays and on sides kicks are a big deal. Take that to any other big conference and they'd laugh at you, than walk all over you. Get with it zoobies!! go utes!!

  • Fruit Heights Cougar Fan
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:02 p.m.

    I thought this was Division 1 football?

    Kyle is responsible for the program at the University of Utah, and no other program. Sorry if it offends some of you, but football is a sport of ONE HUNDRED PERCENT EFFORT from every member of the organization until graduation.

    Bronco sat on the ball against TCU to prevent a fumble. By taking the knee, the cougars insured the victory. John Robinson (UNLV) allowed his players to talk him into going for a touchdown from inches out with no time left a few years back, the RB was stripped of the ball and it was run all the way in by the other team for the winning TD.

    Classy for Kyle to apologize, but he didn't need to for my sake, or any other adult male over eighteen years old. Same with coach Glenn, I'd have flipped Kyle off too, but coach Glenn is responsible for Wyomings program.

    If you allow your team to back off (many do... SMU Holiday Bowl?) it can come back to bite you, and that isn't fair to your team or the fans.

    Do the cougars need to apologize now for Thrashing the Utes in two weeks?

  • The Duke
    Nov. 12, 2007 5:54 p.m.

    When I read the article, my first response was this; thats just good ole classic utah. And he did it because he knew his fans would love it. I sat next to a Ute fan on a plane once on the way home from a BYU game this year, and he came off with that exact same stentch, the stentch of arrogance and pride. He said the Utes will beat the cougars 50 - 14 this year. Wow, nice call buddy and nice call Whittingham your living up to the expectations of your trashy fans.

  • finger wagging
    Nov. 12, 2007 5:53 p.m.

    I have to laugh at all you "coaches", "parents of players" and "previously proud Kyle supporters" that are wagging your fingers at the Utes. Some of your comments are hillarious....."I won't recommend my son for the program"......"I won't recommend my players for the program".
    Kyle is a very good coach. He is a very good role model; ask any player on his team, most of them love him like a second father. News flash: you're dumping on an entire football program and coaching staff because of ONE (failed I might add) onside kick. That tells me a lot about you "fans". Most likely you are all Y fans that are scared to death for the 24th or you are Wyoming fans ashamed at how your team played (gotta tell you, I felt for you guys).
    Either way, quit with the holier than thou talk, its getting old.

  • Gesture
    Nov. 12, 2007 5:52 p.m.

    As a fan, I have travelled to Wyoming for games, where the crowd was chanting F you Utah. I was also spit on after the game by Wyoming fans, same sort of thing when Cowboy fans come up here. I'm sure they show BYU fans the same resentment. Believe it or not they just hate the state of Utah and BYU fans should focus on the game ahead and finish the shallacking the Utes just gave the Cowboys, because they certainly are capable. Let us all show a little class by running up the score on a classless team with a classless program and a classless coach who runs his mouth and then gets the worst beatdown hes ever recieved and gives the middle finger and K Witt is called the classless one. I say Cougs run up the score too.

  • Are you kidding me?
    Nov. 12, 2007 5:52 p.m.

    At what point did competition turn Politically Correct? If you beat another team 150 to 10, maybe that just means the other team needs to go back home and practice a little harder!! Why should one team feel bad for beating their competition? Wyoming, you got beat! Get over it!

    Go Cougars!!

  • Let's move forward
    Nov. 12, 2007 5:45 p.m.

    Let's move forward BYU fans. WWJD? Remember Cougars, don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.

  • Zoobie hater
    Nov. 12, 2007 5:35 p.m.

    Hey Zoobies - get over it - what does BYU have to do with this game anyway...leave it up to all of the red-necks from Cowboy country to whine about Utah riding them into the ground like a rodeo cowboy riding a wild horse into the ground.

    Utes are the hottest team in the MWC - even if it took them 3 or 4 games to get it going. Zoobies beware, once we spank the lowly Lobos, you're next....and I will be hoping that we DO run up the score on you.

  • Whitless
    Nov. 12, 2007 5:27 p.m.

    Once again, Kyle gives us another reason to be grateful that he is at Utah.

    Whitless was classless.

  • HEY BYU FANS
    Nov. 12, 2007 5:24 p.m.

    Isn't Coach Whitt an ALUM of your school? Isn't he alum of the BYU football program? Isn't he member of your church?? I guess i could say with all the other bull crap i have hurd today from this matter that coach Whitt decesion to do a onsides kick has reflection on you guys since he played for you all, but it doesnt.. I'm going to give you a taste of your own medicine "Zoobies"... Doesn't the scriptures teach he with sin among you let him cast the first stone.. KEEP on throwing those stones and WHITT you "zoobies" I'm not here to argue whether what he did was classy or not.. But i know one thing Kyle admitted he was wrong... So quit throwing stones at him.. Because i know that the mormon faith teacher forgivness.. Isnt that what your about BYU?

  • G
    Nov. 12, 2007 5:06 p.m.

    Classy coaches do classy things. Witt and Glenn deserve one another.

  • Re: Off The Wagon
    Nov. 12, 2007 5:01 p.m.

    I'm sorry you'd step into your son's life and decide that he couldn't attend the U. No doubt you sleep in BYU blanket (the old color before they stole Utah State's colors) Don't use this board as troll please. If you want to pretend be obvious and so over the top sarcastic we can get a good laugh. Trying to fool us into thinking you were ever partial is not shall we say "classy"

  • MWC Champs
    Nov. 12, 2007 4:58 p.m.

    Good job on the Poinsettia Bowl.

  • Blue Who
    Nov. 12, 2007 4:53 p.m.

    Who really cares about byu fooball----and by the way , I really don't think that you fans really want to air BYU's dirty classless laundry

  • Iron Axe
    Nov. 12, 2007 4:34 p.m.

    Utah Man you are right, Coach Witt have said he made a poor judgement...so all of you who wants to sacrifice coach Witt, please get a life! Utes are on to New Mexico, the game was last weekend, I believed that he wanted to run the score and onside kick and all of the above, and he really made a bad judgement,but life goes on, we all make mistakes one way or another, each of us have our own Goliath and it depends from how you are willing to face your Goliath, which brings me to my next subject..Y in 2 weeks, Utes will have a Goliath with XXXXL and a Mt. to climb.....watch out the Cougars are coming.

  • How embarassing
    Nov. 12, 2007 4:31 p.m.

    After reading all of these posts, all I have to say is "Shame on you!".

    Who am I speaking to? The majority of the childish BYU & Utah fans that are posting here. Come on, get a GRIP! Grow up! I can't believe the comments that many/most of you are making. To the 10% who make logical, good posts, please disregard this message. To the rest of you, get a life! (and go cougars!)

  • #1 UTAH FAN
    Nov. 12, 2007 4:22 p.m.

    The Utes rule!! We have clearly proven that we are the hottest team in the league, even after losing several of our key players at the beginning of the year. We have had big momentum and we'll certainly qualify for another bowl bid this year. And of course, we will win that bowl, as we have in all of the last bowls we went to, unlike some loser school down south who has only won one bowl game in the last decade. That said, however, Whit has me perplexed; his latest antics with running all of the trick plays including an onside kick were totally uncalled for--not even BYU does that kind of stuff. This was embarrassing to the Ute faithful. If we are to build a legacy on the hill like BYU has, then we need to watch our actions and stand for something other than poor sportsmanship. Onward to battle with New Mexico!!!

  • Wil
    Nov. 12, 2007 4:18 p.m.

    I have a serious problem with the BYU and Wyoming cry babies that have no clue about what class is. I am a big BYU fan and see nothing but smart coaching from Whittingham. As a tennis coach I encourage my players to become more aggressive and practice different styles of play when they are way up in a match. Why not practice an on-side kick when you have nothing to lose in a real game time situation. Those that know anything about football would know that an on-side kick heavily favors the opponent. Why anyone from Wyoming would be opposed to that is just not logical, unless they consider themselves an extremely inferior team that can't handle an opportunity that would provide them with better field position. I have no doubt that the BYU and Utah coaching staff and players would have no problem with how Utah played the entire game. I just hope that BYU coaches show the same sense that Utah showed when they play Wyoming on Saturday.

  • Off of the Wagon
    Nov. 12, 2007 4:13 p.m.

    I have been a huge supporter of Kyle on this site all season long, but after the display of childish behavior on saturday I am off. I am frankly very dissapointed. Kyle has been around long enough to know that what goes around comes around. The game in wyoming last year wasnt 40-0 at half. It was almost half that. The utes should have eaten clock. I am dissapointed, and I thought Kyle had more class than that. If my son were being recruited by the Utes, they would no longer be a consideration. The Utes lose alot of seniors this year, good luck getting anybody to feal sorry for you next year. Saturday morning I hoped the Utes would win out, by saturday night I hoped they would lose the last 2. Kyle, its going to take alot to win back the trust of alot of people.

  • The Final Word
    Nov. 12, 2007 4:11 p.m.

    Good victory Utah and congrats to Kyle. Next time your up by a good margin you probably won't try an onsides kick. Point taken.

    I disagree with Kyle's decision but far worse in my book is the single finger salute by Wyoming's coach. That is classless. Kyle's decision was just a poor decision. I don't see people up in arms over Wyoming's coach's decision.

    Kyle is a great person and turning into a great coach. Utah has a good team and should be congratulated on a great season. And I am a BYU fan, just trying to be objective. And I dont hate Utah, I even cheer for them on many occasions. Their success helps the MWC and helps the Y. Like it or not.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 12, 2007 4:07 p.m.

    Holding back on a team when they are down is just as much a slap in the face as is running up the score.

    Whittingham should have had his starters play their best for the first half - hold nothing back and leave it all on the field - then systematically put in young players to give them experience and use the second half as an opportunity to build for the future - again, coaching his subs to give it all you've got and leave it all on the field!

    That is the classy thing to do. Win!

  • the thing i love
    Nov. 12, 2007 4:06 p.m.

    I love how horrible people are towards coaches. Win or lose It is a hateful society..It makes me wonder if sports brings out the best in us or the worst in us. Youser. I am amazed

  • Amazing
    Nov. 12, 2007 4:04 p.m.

    I am amazed at how many cougars feel they need to show how much better they are than everybody else. They have run up the score on countless teams over the years.

    Think of it this way. Is it better to OD on illegal drugs or on prescription meds? Either way you are dead.

    Is it better to run up the score by constantly throwing touchdown passes when the game is out of hand or by kicking on onside kick when the other team is not expecting it? Either way, you ran up the score.

    Fact of the Day, there is nothing wrong with running up the score in DIV IA football. This is not little league anymore. Do it however you like. Just don't attack one team for doing it differently than your team does it. Because no one likes a hypocrite. Coaches are not paid to make others feel good about themselves, they are paid to win. Perhaps the childish behavior is thinking that only Whittingham does it.

  • Re:hypocrites
    Nov. 12, 2007 3:51 p.m.

    What Whittingham did was not classless. But it calls into question his intentions. Imagine how Mendenhall would be precieved by the Utes and their fans if BYU was up by 30 or 40 and the same thing occured?

    And why is what Coach Glenn considered disrepectful by giving into a fan and predicting a win at Utah?
    Saturday's game was big for both Utah and Wyoming. Wyo has hit the skids as of late and beating a good Utah team would put some fire back into a struggling team. As for his flipping Kyle off for the onside?
    That was classless.

    And what right does Utah or its fans think Wyo was the instigator over the bad feelings that came out of last year's game. Utah played just plain lousey. Or doesn't that count for something???

    And speaking of disrepectful? Remember when John Beck excitedly exclaimed to the Cougar faithful about going up to SL and beating the utes? If I remember correctly, the Ute faithful considered that disrepectful, even considered his comments a prediction?

    But he backed it up, even personally.

    And how many predictions have we heard about a guarenteed victory over BYU, weeks before the game?

    Hypocrites!!!!!!

  • Ute Fans
    Nov. 12, 2007 3:48 p.m.

    Wow what a display of childish behavior, kind of like Whit's little melt-down at the end of the "Caught for the Touchdown!" game last year.

    Ute fans must be so proud!

  • Still Realistic Utah fan
    Nov. 12, 2007 3:40 p.m.

    To Realistic Y fan - Your argument makes no sense. BYU's game plan is to pass. Great. Everyone knows that. But when the game is put away, do you change the game plan a little to run the clock down? Answer however you would like. If I take your argument, then Utah just followed its game plan. They had two weeks of preparation and came into the game knowing they would be running trick plays and, yes, even an onside kick. So you are now attacking that team for running their game plan. Can you honestly tell yourself that last year, when BYU was leading Utah State 31-0 with 2 minutes left in the fourth quarter, that it was classy to have Jo Beck throw a touchdown pass to Johnny Harline? Please realize that it doesn't matter how you do it, running up the score is running up the score. Maybe BYU thought USU would score 32 points in the last 2 minutes. Whatever reason, they ran up the score!! I personally think if you are going to play div I football, your job is to go out and win games, not make other people feel good about losing games.

  • Two things!!!!!
    Nov. 12, 2007 3:39 p.m.

    1-Who is to say that Wyo couldn't score 40 points in the second half and make it a close game; remember the Buffalo and Houston game! The games wasn't over, and it wasn't the fourth Q so anything could still happen.

    2-This was a game situation were Kyle could see how his onside kicking game was coming along; maybe Utah will have to use the onside kicking against NM or BYU, and so Kyle was seeing how his players would respond to game-time situation.

    Bottom line is:

    Kyle could have put Mack back in the game during the fourth Q just so he could pad his stats, but he didn't. Everyone and their dog was playing in the fourth Q because Kyle had class and wasn't trying to run up the score.

    As for the onside kick-
    Anything goes in football, this isn't pee-wee football were kids cry.(Unless your Beck)

    PS I remember many times when Beck/Harline/Brown were still in the game in the fourth Q. when they were winning by more the 20+ points. How much class does Bronce have?

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 12, 2007 3:34 p.m.

    Thank you coach Witt for choosing the school that most closely reflects your level (or lack thereof) of class. It appears that both schools got what they deserve...

  • DavetheAce
    Nov. 12, 2007 3:33 p.m.

    It's a game! Bad sportsmanship is the blindside hit on Johnson by Wyoming after the whistle, but hey no comments address that poor sportsmanship. Go Kyle, please instill more discipline on you and the team and makes us forget Urban!

  • Roscoe
    Nov. 12, 2007 3:29 p.m.

    If you're in a position to win, then win big! Don't ever let up on any opponent, keep coming at them until the losing team sees the Ute's in their nightmares for the next 5 years. Way to go, Coach Whittingham, congrats on your win.

  • HYPOCRITES!!!
    Nov. 12, 2007 3:26 p.m.

    All you holier-than-thou poogers need to look at some history and realize that your holy football prophet Lavell had a few nice "run up the score" games in the late 80's. Also, it's usually the losing team or a rival fan that uses the term "trick play", usually after being outplayed and out of position. Teams in the NFL regularly use what could be considered "trick plays". This is FOOTBALL, not a gentlemanly game of croquet. The teams are trying to decimate and hurt each other. An argument against sticking it to your opponent is ridiculous! I only hope Whittingham and the Utes "run it up" against the whimpy poogers! I'll revel in their "gentlemanly disdain".

  • Cal Ute
    Nov. 12, 2007 3:11 p.m.

    Coach Whitt can not win. What would you all be saying if Wyoming made a come back and won. You would all be asking for his butt to get kicked out along with his staff. Thanks for a great game coach! I will be in SLC for the New Mexico game. P.S. Please save a few trick plays for the BROTHERS DOWN SOUTH.

  • Dave
    Nov. 12, 2007 3:09 p.m.

    Hilarious. The best part of the game was Joe Glenn's middle finger. I guess he was letting Kyle know who's number one.

    Way to go, Kyle. Keep up the good work.

  • Henry Drummond
    Nov. 12, 2007 2:58 p.m.

    I am glad that both coaches have been willing to express regret over doing things in the heat of the moment that were simply not good sportsmanship. Football is a game of emotion and it is difficult to turn it on and off like a spigot.

    What I find sad are the teams who in fact "run up the score" on inferior opponents and who never have a second thought about it. I'll take these two coaches over them any day.


  • traveler
    Nov. 12, 2007 2:52 p.m.

    Interesting reading... With all that is going on in the world, it is nice to have such "imporant" things as this to spend our time on. Also, being a BYU fan, I find it sad that so many "BYU Fans" feel the need to make negative comments. Give it a rest for a couple of weeks until the real fun begins.. I for one enjoy the rivalry... Football would be boring without it.

  • my opion
    Nov. 12, 2007 2:37 p.m.

    Typical Utah bush league move by Whittingham and team. Not unexpected.

    See you in a couple of weeks.

    Harline is still open.

  • Utah
    Nov. 12, 2007 2:15 p.m.

    My cousin plays for the Utes so this is his insight.
    Now Utah can put down that it won a game this year 50-0. That should look good in the media guide. Other than that, pretty sub-par year. Lost the first game of the year decisively. Lost to UNLV (27-0, I thought this was a typo when I first saw it! I thought their year was done). Lost to a decent Air Force squad (will probably end up #2 in the conference based on current standings). They have had a couple of nice wins against UCLA and TCU.
    Kyle Whittingham is fighting for his job. You can't get mad at a coach for running it up who might not even make it to 2008. 50-0 looks a lot better on his resume than the 31-15 'calling the dogs off win' that Wyoming had against our team a year ago. Give the guy a break as he is fighting for his family's livelihood.
    Go Utes!

  • Calling out all byU fans
    Nov. 12, 2007 2:16 p.m.

    Since this is byU's newspaper I'm not suprised to see all of these comments. However UTAH fans are here to keep our little brothers in line. Do you remember Bronco running the score up last year against USU???...didn't think so. 2 minutes left in the game and byU does a play action for a 20 yard td pass to go up by over 30 points. Oh that is right it is totally diffrent because bronco can do that and Whitt can't try new things in the 3rd quater of game. Someone please help realize the difference!!!

  • JD
    Nov. 12, 2007 2:06 p.m.

    After reading these comments, it's clear that the only people rationalizing the classless onside kick, are the classless Utes fans.

  • Ivory Tower
    Nov. 12, 2007 2:04 p.m.

    Hmmm... Let's consider the score so far:

    The anti-Wittingham Team - 128
    The pro-Wittingham Team - 8

    Seems likes the anti-Wittingham Team has won this pointless debate, yet they just keep piling it on. If I didn't know any better, I'd say they were just running up the score.

    Well, they probably just let their emotions get the better of them.

  • NY
    Nov. 12, 2007 2:01 p.m.

    I have to laugh at those who think Bronco's taking a knee against TCU had anything to do with class. Anyone who knows anything about football knows that this was to ensure the victory. Running any play was risky. TCU could have run back a fumble or intercepted a pass. To take any risk would have been stupid. Bronco was just being smart.

  • Skimoab
    Nov. 12, 2007 1:55 p.m.

    Hey BYU fan, it's nice to see a cougar fan look at this without getting all riled up. Why does everyone have to get so emotional about it? The Holy War will be a good one this year.

    Can anyone tell me, what will happen if (hypothetically)BYU and Utah both win their games this Saturday and Utah ends up beating BYU? Would that cause a tie in the conference standings? Would Utah be on top or would BYU still remain on top?

  • classless?
    Nov. 12, 2007 1:53 p.m.

    So Whit is classless because he "ran up the score" on Wyoming? So was Bronco classless last year when he left Beck, Brown, Harline and other starters in the Wyo game and called passing plays when BYU was up 41-0 in the fourth quarter. Is it more classless to kick an onsides kick halfway through the third quarter up by 43 than to leave starters in and throw the ball up by 41 in the fourth? Of course Y fans will insist BYU was not classless because Bronco is "fully invested" (a term Urban Meyer used at Utah four years before, by the way). Ever think the onsides kick was done so the Utes could practice? Wouldn't you rather have your team fail at an onsides kick up 43 in the third than with the game on the line in the final minutes? Let's give this running up the score a rest! Utes dominated and looked as good as they've looked since 2004.

  • Happy
    Nov. 12, 2007 1:52 p.m.

    I love the BYU fans on here. You guys are making this 50-0 drubbing even better with your comments. I hope coach whit does it again next week, so I can hear, "This is the worst thing I have ever seen in my life. I had to cover my kids eyes in the third quarter. I even had to comfort my wife and wipe away her tears because she just couldn't understand how an onside kick could be run with the score being up 43-0. She just kept sobbbing, 'Won't somebody think of the cowboys. Will somebody please think of the cowboys". Keep em coming cougars. Its like we have a big bunch of sissys inhabiting our state. I always wondered how 64,000 fans could make such little sound at Lavell Edwards stadium. Bingo, just got my answer. On another note, BYU is still play great football and can't wait to see the two best teams clash.
    Go UTES!!!

  • Sounds Personal
    Nov. 12, 2007 1:49 p.m.

    Personal does play well on live TV.

    Kyle, we expected more.

    He apologized, let's leave it at that and move on

  • I agree...
    Nov. 12, 2007 1:47 p.m.

    If any of you watch ESPN, the same question came up about New England and I believe that it was Tom Jackson that said he doesn't have a problem with running up the score. If you don't like getting whipped that bad, then do something to stop the bleeding. They couldn't do a thing against anyone from Utah. Go back to the drawing board and start over Glenn. Maybe next year will be better for you.

  • If you don't like it...
    Nov. 12, 2007 1:45 p.m.

    There is only one way to react to the situation that everyone looks like they are facing - If you don't like what is happening to you, then do something about it.

    It's when you start to take your foot off the gas that players and people get hurt because they aren't doing what many of us as parents and coaches taught the kids from the time they were born - take plays off and don't go hard.

    You can't have your cake and eat it too. The Wyoming players and coaches should have put a stop to it, but as it stands, when they did put their second string in the game to start the fourth, the FIRST TEAM OFFENSE still couldn't score. Shame on you for not putting up a better fight than you did.

    See you next year.

  • No dog in this hunt
    Nov. 12, 2007 1:37 p.m.

    I'm not a fan of either team, but my Utah's coach has got to have more class. If he regret's it apologize for it. If not to the coach fine, but to the Wyoming players. He's supposed to be a leader of men, and an example, for all athletes. His onside kick wasn't just getting back at the coach, it showed no respect for the young men he was playing. The funny thing is, when I was a player, an opposing coach ran a fake punt against us up by 30 in the 4th. Our coach also gave him the bird. Some things are just universal reactions I guess.

  • Hawk
    Nov. 12, 2007 1:36 p.m.

    Wow. Must be a rivalry game approaching. By the way, this isn't just a UU v. BYU issue -- as pointed out, people saw the onside kick on cable outlets around the country. Let me simplify this, Utes: you don't make national news unless it's something a) really good or b) really bad. And I guarantee it wasn't the 50-0 blowout that made the game newsworthy....

    By the way, did I hear Whitt being compared to R. Lavell Edwards?!? Priceless!

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 12, 2007 1:17 p.m.

    it looks like byu fans only have that ammunition this week to trash talk about the not so classy play calling of kyle whittingham, other than that, i bet it is hard to accept how well they are playing right now

  • Funny
    Nov. 12, 2007 1:14 p.m.

    K Whit forgot what he learned at the Y about TRADITION, SPIRIT, and HONOR.

  • viper
    Nov. 12, 2007 1:12 p.m.

    I'm glad people are starting to see Utah for what i know they are, unsportmanlike bumbs who have to run up the score on anyone they can to make themselves look good. I have never once respected the Utes, but I have given them a chance. It's sad to say that the only way Utah can win is by doing trick plays. Utah you need to get some class, in every sport you play.

  • Think about it
    Nov. 12, 2007 1:08 p.m.

    A billion Chinamen could not care less. As an avid Ute fan, neither could I.

    What a nonissue.

  • Zip it Coogars!
    Nov. 12, 2007 1:07 p.m.

    Get off this comment board, Zoobies. Had your precious Cougars run up the score, you would find nothing wrong with it. You are just threatened because Utah is playing a lot better at this stage of the season than BYU. Only a 2 more weeks 'till you will see what I mean. Now go back to watching your Star Trek episodes.

  • Drew
    Nov. 12, 2007 1:05 p.m.

    Wow!!! I love Cougar Nations enthusiasm when a subject dealing with moral issues arise. Should he or shouldn't he have gone with the onside kick? The answer is obvious, no. Is this grounds for questioning Kyle's ethics, not really. I would consider Wyoming aside from BYU our next best conference rival. And with bad blood already being in the water, that's what happened. So all you BYU fans take it easy. Yes, we know you are glad that Bronco is your coach. And every questionable thing that Kyle does just proves he wasn't the man for the BYU job. Will anyone that cares about football remember this in a few weeks? Maybe Wyoming but not no one else. Will Cougar fans continue to try and ride the "ethical bus" on this one, of course. The battle between good and evil still continues, right Y fans? That being said, being the evil Ute fan that I am, I guarantee victory over the team from down south. I can't wait to see if Max Hall has any tears in him. I hope this doesn't get back to the BYU locker room, I would hate to give them any additional motivation.

  • Jerry
    Nov. 12, 2007 1:03 p.m.

    Do you think coach Mendenhall would have pulled a stunt like that? Me neither. Enough said.

  • coach chris
    Nov. 12, 2007 12:57 p.m.

    What coach doesn't garentee a victory in their own prep rally? Are you that stupid to think that they shouldn't do that. I was in a booth at the game as well as on the field, and thought it was bush league to onside kick. As far as last year's win over Utah, the score was 31-0 at half and ended up 31-16. Get your facts strait, there was 6 minutes left in the third and the utes were up 43-0 when the utes onside kicked. The utes will get what is coming to them. BYU leaves their starters in late in the fourth as well, when they are fortunate not to be playing Tulsa or UCLA. I think that both teams are pukes.

  • pollywog
    Nov. 12, 2007 12:56 p.m.

    I'm a BYU grad and fan who is trying hard but finding it difficult to get worked up about this. After all, this was Wyoming they were playing. As much as I dislike Utah and their fans, I can honestly say that Wyoming's fans are the most classless individuals I've come across. I think it's the lack of oxygen or something. Maybe they can only relate to sheep. If it had been BYU playing Wyoming and had they done the same thing, I'd be laughing till I hurt.

    That said, the only thing that does bother me is according to Whit's own comments, he lost control of his emotions and he ran the play out of spite, not out of concern that Wyoming might come back or to work on some plays for the future, like many comments suggest. It seems like a coach should demonstrate more control than that.

  • Hard not to compare . . .
    Nov. 12, 2007 12:54 p.m.

    It's hard not to compare Kyle's decision to onside kick when up 43-0 in the third quarter to Bronco's decision 2 nights earlier to take a knee just 3 yards from the end zone when only up by 5 at the end of the game. BYU's victory would have looked much better if they had won by double-digits, but Bronco chose to take the high road and teach his players a lesson in good sportsmanship. Utah obviously was the better team against Wyoming and had already proven that; Kyle could have taught good sportsmanship, but chose to let his emotions get the better of him. I think that's unfortunate for his players who look to him as an example.

    When people say this is just part of football, I don't buy that! These college players are learning life-lessons from their coaches and I for one would rather see these young men leave their college years as better people, not just better players.

  • Ute Fan
    Nov. 12, 2007 12:43 p.m.

    We sacrificed a lot for that win. Deserved or not, our coaches reputation is now tainted, our program has less respect and we look like fools trying to cover his butt.

    Strategy? Are you serious? It is stupid to reveal trick plays when you are whipping somebody. It is better to surprise them than to force them to prepare.

    This year has concerned me. It is obvious our team is emotional. Coach is groping each week to find something to motivate his team. This is a draining process and can't be kept up forever. I would rather see him motivate our players to play without having to look for external forces to do it. I worry about our next few games for these reasons.

  • slv
    Nov. 12, 2007 12:42 p.m.

    The onside kick failed and Wyoming got the ball on the 40 yard line and failed to do anything with it.
    It was a gift from Kyle and Wyoming just gave it back.

  • Canuck View
    Nov. 12, 2007 12:36 p.m.

    I love reading these articles when BYU and Utah are egging each other on like kids in grade school. Everyone step back! As an outside observer you have more to be upset about! BYU and UTAH could hang with anyone in the country right now and if there was a playoff system in place they would have a real shot at doing damage this year. These are 2 very good teams that could play with ANYONE. You worry too much about beating each other up but I am sure any coach in the country would not want to face either team right now!

    To settle the debate re the Wyoming game: Wyoming is well expected to be classless so take what they do with a grain of salt; BYU has always been expected to have class and usually does; Utah should have had more class and had in all subs for game experience and not been running trick plays.

    No one in the country knows how good BYU and UTAH are. You really should be focusing your energies on getting that message out! The MWC is a far tougher and unique conference than people understand. MWC deserves better!

  • ST-G
    Nov. 12, 2007 12:33 p.m.

    Kyle's IQ is about 80. He is whiner. He didn't do any knee jerk playcalling. He was going to try to pile it on from the first whistle. He'll never be an Urban Meyer, the guy just isn't that bright. "Yo Adrian" is what I think of when I hear him speak.

  • Sad
    Nov. 12, 2007 12:30 p.m.

    This isn't a BYU/Utah issue!!!!. This is strictly a act by a coach who let his emotions control him? right!!!! Face the facts, this was classless and a joke. I can't believe I am going to admit this, But I am not longer a BYU hater, I am now a UTAH hater. I will admit the coach Glenn showed some poor judgement for his reponse to the on side kick, but coach Whittingham has no excuse for his actions. He can say sorry all he wants, but the fact is it was wrong... You made your point being up 40-0, but really come on.... I am embarrassed for the UofU and for sportsmanship. Try to repair this image Kyle.

  • the sweed
    Nov. 12, 2007 12:30 p.m.

    As a Cougar fan, I am surprised Whitingham did the on-sides kick being up by 43 points. That is the ultimate bush league thing to do to the other coach and team. Kyle obviously did this to humiliate Wyoming and basically baited a HUGE BEAR TRAP next year when his team travels to Laramie. Really really really STUPID and CLASSLESS thing to do.
    Aside from this, Utah is bascially the BEST team in the MWC right now. They have the defense and offense going and nobody (including BYU) will stop them. Utah will not lose another game the rest of the year.

  • Seriously
    Nov. 12, 2007 12:27 p.m.

    The onside kick showed a clear lack of class. A guarantee does not show a lack of class, it shows a coach trying to inspire his team. Utah took it to him, good for them. They made him eat his words. But an onside kick with a 43 point lead in the 3rd quarter? What were you trying to accomplish? That is pretty weak.

  • Mack
    Nov. 12, 2007 12:26 p.m.

    Notice that Darrel Mack ended the game with 97 yards rushing. He was going for his, what, 8th 100 game of the season? He was going against the best run defense in the MWC. Don't you think he would have loved to get those three extra yards? Why didn't he? Because he was on the bench most of the 2nd half. That's not classless.

  • Interested observer
    Nov. 12, 2007 12:24 p.m.

    I think it's interesting that both coaches blamed their inability to control their emotions for their behavior. Coach Glenn blamed his emotions for making the guarantee and for making an obscene gesture during the game. Coach Whittingham blamed his emotions for the onside kick. Aren't the coaches supposed to be in control of their emotions? If they're not in control of their own emotions before and during games, what should they expect of their players? Doesn't the loss of control of emotions contribute to player brawls? What about the fans? Would the coaches want the fans spilling onto the field in anger because they couldn't control their emotions after a controversial call or a bitter defeat? It worries me that two grown men who have been in the business of sports for this long can't control their emotions. Apologies are great, but what kind of example are they setting for the athletes and fans?

  • Meet me in the Muss
    Nov. 12, 2007 12:12 p.m.

    I am so sick and tired of hearing about this onside kick nonsense. If you really think about it, it was a great move. The only time that you can do an onside kick is either is practice or in a game. If it is a game situation it is usually when you are down and need a miracle to stay alive. Why not do it during a game when the outcome of the game won't be effected by it??? It sounds like a great idea to me and it gives good in-game experience. I have no problem with Coach Kyle's decision. If any of you on this board know anything about football you can't argue this. I would love to see you try and welcome your comments!!!!! Go UTES

  • Realistic Y Fan
    Nov. 12, 2007 12:10 p.m.

    I am sorry realistic U fan, but there is a difference between passing while ahead, and kicking an onside kick. BYU's game plan for as long as I can remember has included passing. They have never been a run first team, so they don't change their game plan when they are winning.

    The utes on the other hand, are not an "onside kicking" team. It was out of the norm for them to do that, and it was not necessary. It was classless and totally uncalled for. If Kyle can't handle his emotions maybe he shouldn't coach?

  • Conspiracy Theory
    Nov. 12, 2007 12:07 p.m.

    My theory is that Utah wanted to stir Wyoming into such an angry frenzy so that when BYU visits next weekend Wyoming will kick their butts up and down the field ala Kansas - Nebraska - Kansas State.
    Kyle coaches with passion, what more do want in a coach. Football is savage. It was when Utah was losing they were calling for Kyle's head now they just want him to play nice and say that he is sorry. I never heard of anyone losing their job for running up the score.

  • How Much is Enough
    Nov. 12, 2007 12:09 p.m.

    Cooter posters are sooo hypocritcal. You go to church and give all your primary answers about repentance and forgiveness, but stumble when it comes down to practicing these principles. Coach Kyle admits in the article HE made a mistake. Who are we now to judge him as "Classless". Would it have been better to not admit to the mistake. Do you want him to go to each of the Wyoming players homes and personally bring a plate of cookies. By the way, how classless is it to demean the Utah players for running the plays as dictated by their coaches.

  • CL
    Nov. 12, 2007 12:07 p.m.

    After all the years of bad treatment from Wyoming, they deserve this. Who cares, tell them to quit whining!!!
    Man up, and quit complaining!!!!
    If they had done the same thing, that would just saunter back to Wyoming and count it as another victory.
    GO UTES!!!!

  • ABQ Cougar
    Nov. 12, 2007 11:59 a.m.

    Congrats Utes. Very impressive win. I'm looking forward to a classic in two weeks!

  • POLYnation
    Nov. 12, 2007 11:54 a.m.

    I'm glad the UTEs won, but the decision by coach was uncalled for. Even when they were up 43-0 and still went for it on 4th and 2...c'mon!!

  • A higher power
    Nov. 12, 2007 11:45 a.m.

    Coach Whittingham has ALREADY apologized for the onside kick. Any BYU fans who still believe in the atonement and the miracle of forgiveness can now lay off of him and turn all of your attentions toward the game this weekend in Laramie.

  • Bombadil
    Nov. 12, 2007 11:40 a.m.

    Is this a BYU cougar club chat room? I'm glad you got the coach that says, "The players are fully invested in our system and have a wonderful feeling of unity as we press forward with faith." You can have him. I'll take Whitt. Have you ever been to Laramie as an opposing crowd? Wyoming got what they deserved. BYU has plain vanilla play calling and isn't really that fun of a brand of football. BYU fans would not even care about this situation if they weren't scared of what Utah could do to them in two weeks. I remember well how excited BYU fans were when Mr. Crowton was running it up on opponents in 2001 and put a tight end back in a slaughter of Air Force just to get a 2 year old MWC receiving record. Its called hypocrisy and BYU fans have it in spades. Go back to Harmons articles about how good (and boring) things are in happy valley. And don't forget, Utah is 6-1 in its last seven visits to Rice Eccles South.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 12, 2007 11:30 a.m.

    I think it's blatantly stupid how people turned this onside kick call into an attack on Whittingham as a person; I'm a student at the Y and find it disgusting how Cougars fans are attacking the rival's coach for making a call that has no effect on them. This is not a BYU-Utah matter, it's a Wyoming-Utah matter. Whittingham apologized. I've lived in Ann Arbor and been a part of the Michigan-OSU rivalry, and THIS is classlessness: OSU coach Woody Hayes, with his team leading by 34 points, went for two against Michigan. When asked why, he said, "Because we couldn't go for three." I'm sure BYU fans wouldn't be that upset with a 50-0 win over the Cowboys this Saturday, even if an onside kick was involved. Stop demonizing the rival for what they do to other teams.

  • utahkeith
    Nov. 12, 2007 11:30 a.m.

    Sorry to say folks, last year when Wyoming got 35 points they BACKED OFF! Utah poured it on continously through the third quarter, ON SIDE KICK at 43-0? What, fake punt at 33-0 wasn't it? Hook & ladder with a huge lead too? The forward handoff through the legs was brilliant, the lead wasn't that huge yet, so that was an awesome play, but the trouncing should have backed off at 40-0, and put in the back ups, or at least went to a steady running game without all the long pass plays and trickery which continued. IT WAS DISGRACEFUL! Enough said. Wittingham has been bashed by my wet noodle with 40 lashes and I am done with it, I hope every game they play the rest of the year has this last game remembered by the other team as if it was done to them, that might teach Kyle a lesson in what the Coaches Conduct and Ethic Code is all about! It was totally uncalled for, with that aside, nice game Utes.

  • Are you serious?
    Nov. 12, 2007 11:11 a.m.

    Coach Whit did exactly what should have been done, what is this good sportsmanship? College football is not little leage anymore... College football and professional footbal do differ but not by much when it comes to the coaching style. You play to win, and you do not quit playing especially in the 3rd quarter.

    This is part of the game, if you are not coaching your team to the best of your abilities you better be able to take it when you get trashed up and down the field.

    Football is pretty much a job for these athletes so when they are trained to do what they did they will not quit and same goes for the coach. I agree there is such thing as class in sports but after a "guarantee" what would you do? Lay down in the 3rd and act like we are playing backyard two hand touch? Not likely, you would run the score up on your little brother like the Utes did to the Cowboys.

  • Fan Man
    Nov. 12, 2007 11:09 a.m.

    Dear Coach Whittingham,
    According to byu fans and the local media, you are classless for running the imfamaous on-side kick. I believe you are sincere when you say that you made a mistake. I felt at the time it should not have been run. The same byu fans and media also believe that when you have a lead on another division I college team in the third quarter, you should quit running your plays and trying to score. It appears that scoring and preventing the other team from scoring is no longer the goal of the game. So, to appease said byu fans and media, for the next two games, and in the apparent bowl game, would you please just punt on every first down after you get a lead. Would you also just tell your kick returners to down the ball wherever they recieve a kick. It is apparently no longer right to try to advance the ball or score. Oh, and please don't ever try scoring more than 10 points in the second half again. You should have been punting on every first down! How dare you run plays that you had practiced all week! Classless... (tic)

  • Where this U fan cont..
    Nov. 12, 2007 11:01 a.m.

    I have admired Joe Glen from afar from his days at Montana and N Colorado and wish he wouldve ended up in SLC or Logan some day. He just seems like a down to earth, intense, rebel of a coach. Which make his guarantee no big surprise. My only disappointment was when asked about the finger, he didnt respond I was checking the wind for a possible field goal. That would have been classic.

  • It's football, people!
    Nov. 12, 2007 10:56 a.m.

    First, let me state that I am a true blue BYU fan and long-time season ticket holder. That said, I'd like to congratulate the Utes for their great victory, and Kyle Whittingham for a beautifully coached game, INCLUDING the onsides kick. I would've done exactly the same thing, because the funny thing is this: It's actually the job of the OTHER TEAM'S DEFENSE to prevent my team from scoring. I just don't understand why a coach should deny his own players a great moment for the tender FEELINGS of his opponent. Aren't they all D1 football players, or did I just stumble into a stadium of romper-room play buddies? It's nonsense. Furthermore, a struggling team can only learn when the weaknesses in their preparation/execution are exposed. If a coach calls off the dogs, tactical learning ends for the losing team at that moment. So, to the victor I say, "Play on!" And to the loser I say, "Fight harder, then learn from what you've seen!"

  • Biggest Loser Contest
    Nov. 12, 2007 10:53 a.m.

    Who cares? Wyoming shouldn't have guaranteed victory. Utes shouldn't have onside kicked with the score 43-0. Like there is a national champion in NCAA football anyway.

  • question
    Nov. 12, 2007 10:51 a.m.

    So when exactly in a game are you suppose to lay down. I am shocked people are upset about a fake punt in the first half when the utes are up 26 to 0. Haven't any of you seen teams come back from large deficits.

    So when exactly are you suppose to lay down? 2nd quarter?

  • BYU Alum/Fan
    Nov. 12, 2007 10:45 a.m.

    I'm disturbed by all of the people piling on Coach Whittingham over this. I agree that it was an ill-advised decision, but he doesn't deserve this vitriol. Nothing against Bronco, but I'm one who still wishes Kyle would have taken the BYU job. I hated it when his dad jumped ship to the U and took the rest of the family with him. I'd like to see Kyle back at his alma mater.

  • TucsonUte
    Nov. 12, 2007 10:37 a.m.

    How ironic all the BYU fans in here are talking about class when LaVell Edwards used to re-insert players like Marc Wilson to break NCAA records in games when BYU was winning by huge margins.

    Glenn needed to be taken behind the woodshed. He'll think twice about running his mouth before playing the Utes next time.

    Remember it is better to feared as a team than loved. Look where being loved gets the Chicago Cubs every year.

  • Emotions?
    Nov. 12, 2007 10:36 a.m.

    That's a pretty lame excuse for calling an onside kick when your team is up 43-0. If you can't control your emotions at 43-0, you shouldn't be a head football coach, even of a pee-wee team.
    Go Lobos!

  • Texas Ute
    Nov. 12, 2007 10:26 a.m.

    Maybe Whit had an emotional relapse and thought he was still a Cougar at BYU.

    Play the game til it's over. Never let up. Just ask the Texas Rangers, who scored 30 runs on Baltimore. The Lakers would score 200 on the Spurs if they could. This is much ado about nothing.

  • re/coach
    Nov. 12, 2007 10:19 a.m.

    to the coach who said he tells his QB to fumble or throw a pick, this isnt little league pal, you run the ball.

  • Realistic Ute Fan
    Nov. 12, 2007 10:16 a.m.

    First I will say, the onside kick went too far. Kyle's emotions got the better of him. It shouldn't have happened but it did. He realized that after the fact.
    Next point. Everyone out there saying that Utah is classless for running up the score should look back to the Lavell days. Happened week in and week out. Not to mention that Wyoming had the 6th best defense in the nation going into that game. This was not an Eastern Washington opponent. We removed all starters with 12 minutes left in the 4th quarter. Bronco doesn't pull his any sooner.
    Utah ran the ball 18 of their last 19 plays. BYU never stops passing, even when a game is out of reach. That is just as classless as running trick plays and kicking onside kicks. Perhaps we only like to find the bad in other teams and overlook our own "classless" acts.
    And I dare anyone to say that they haven't done something stupid in the heat of the moment when emotion reigns. He who is guiltless, let him cast the first stone...

  • SportsFan
    Nov. 12, 2007 10:09 a.m.

    What a poor and ugly thing to do. There was no reason to call an onside kick. There was nothing to prove. The game was in the bag. Somebody talked about class earlier and Whittingham has none. Honestly people, if you were a Wyoming coach would you have enough "class" to go out and shake hands! I think not. I wouldn't

    Oh yeah, and why are Ute fans suddenly standing up to Whittingham. You wanted him gone just a month or so ago.

  • Sputnik
    Nov. 12, 2007 10:02 a.m.

    As a Utah transplant, all this U vs. Y banter kills me. I hail from Oregon, where the real college Civil War resides, and while there are extremists on each side, reason and objectiveness rarely takes a backseat to blatant homer-ism for your team.

    I think the real story is how ridiculous Y fans are for calling Whitt "bush-league at best" when all he's doing is securing a win for his team with a whole half of football left to play! Get over yourselves, Cougs. Don't worry, I have plenty against the BYU homers too, but in this case Cougar fans need to realize that you don't win games and you ultimately let your players & fanbase down by "letting up" at inappropriate times. Anyone see what Manning and Indie did inthe Colts/Chargers game last night...in less than one quarter? The game is never over in collegiate and professional sports.

  • tdp
    Nov. 12, 2007 10:01 a.m.

    I find it interesting that people can be so negative about a person they have never met. Coach Whit is one of the most genuine classy people I have ever had the privilage to be around. When it is game day he is there to win, which by the way is just what he is paid to do. And to the coach who commentted earlier that he would no longer reccommend the U to his players: Oh if we could all be as perfect as you!!! Grow up, sounds to me as if you weren't pushing the U very hard in the first place.

  • knizst
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:59 a.m.

    I'm a BYU fan but I don't hold this against Coach Whittingham. There are two teams on the field and both are responsible for a lopsided score. If the Cowboys didn't want to be embarrassed by the score they should have played better. Maybe there should be a "skunk rule" or "mercy rule" like in ping-pong. If a team gets up by 40 points the game ends. Barring that I have no problem with the Utes scoring as many points as they can. Question - did Wyoming take out their first string and stop playing as hard as they could? Why should the winning team stop trying while the losing team continues to try hard? Finally, remember that this is just a game, not life and death. All that said, I hope the cougars can run up the score against the utes.

  • You make me laugh
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:57 a.m.

    Wyoming Classless? Did you actually watch the game? The finger gesture was a reaction to Whit's totally tasteless game plan. No one ever said Wyoming was a class act. They are Wyoming. Utah is supposed to be a classy organization. Trick plays after game was well in hand? Fake punt when up 26-0? Onside kick up 43-0? Surprised they didn't go for 2 points after each touchdown. The backlash against the Utes for being so classless will continue beyond this game. Not just form Y fans. That is to be expected. The kids watching this will get into their minds that Utes don't have class. Those type of things stick as they choose where to play their sports careers. Even my long time Ute fan neighbors are embarrased about this one.

  • Damage control
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:57 a.m.

    Good damage control Whit, once you realized that you lost face with the rest of the coaches in the conference and college football. But somethings just can't be undone.

  • ute fan
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:47 a.m.

    Stop saying they ran up the score. Whitt was just practicing an onside kick because the game was already in hand. He might not have been thinking when he did it, but they were just practicing it for the New Mexico and BYU games. They haven't done one onside kick all year, and that was the perfect time to do it if you think about it. Plus how did they run up the score by only scoring ten points, what do you expect them to do, lay down and let WYOMING COME BACK AND WIN IN THE 2ND HALF. everyone needs to stop overreacting to this because it's not that big of a deal!

  • old crimson
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:36 a.m.

    "A strategy's" comments are 100 percent correct! Future opponents now have to work on all this stuff.

    Who does not like to watch gadget plays? Will anybody argue that this year's fiesta bowl with Boise state and Oklahoma wasn't one of the most entertaining games ever? Remember the Stobart years and 5 yards and a cloud of dust? Utah was lucky to get 13,000 fans in the stands, all the while the TDS was sold out while putting on their arial circus. Hats off to Whit and Andy Ludwig for putting on a show! I for one am begging for more.

  • Score is not the issue
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:36 a.m.

    The score is not the issue. Neither are the trick plays. The Utes were clearly the better team. Glad he showed they have some tricks so there will be fewer surprises in Provo. The issue is the onside kick -- which is usually used to try to break open a close game or to launch a comeback attempt. Not to punish the oponent because their coach is dumb. It (the onside kick) creates a short field -- if executed successfully.
    The flying finger is also classless, so you have 2 classless head coaches. Usually it's the assistants who are sometimes immature, not the ehad guy. I personally don't see anything wrong with Joe Glenn's pre-game comments other than they were stupid. They certainly didn't strike me as disrespectful. Oh well

  • T Free
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:34 a.m.

    The onside kick resulted in Wyoming having the best field position in the game. Glenn should have thanked Whit. And his team should have used that as motivation to not get blanked.

  • This guy
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:32 a.m.

    Classless. An onside kick while up 43 points??? If Belicheat had done this, the national media would be up in arms. Coach W has just lost his right to EVER complain when the other team runs up the score. Couldn't even muster a real apology. Sad.

  • Thanks for the Scores
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:31 a.m.

    You are right those were the scores but I never remeber an onside kick in the third quarter in any of those games.

  • Why BYU
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:28 a.m.

    Why are BYU fans even commenting here?
    Since when is football a classy sport anyway? We're talking about guys tackling eachother as hard as they can, and you're upset about an onside kick? Please, get over it, and BYU fans get lost.

  • A Big Man
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:26 a.m.

    It takes a big man to admit his mistakes. A lot of guys would get defensive in the face of the onslaught Whitt has suffered the past few days. But instead of stubbornly digging in his heels, Whitt listened to the criticism, reassessed his decision and issue a mea culpa. It's impossible to have a perfect football coach, so I'll take a coach that can honestly reflect on his decisions and try to learn from mistakes. It's been fun to watch the Utes the last several weeks. Whitt has pulled about 5/8ths of a rabbitt out of his hat. I can't wait to see if he can get the whole rabbitt out.

  • Come on people...
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:14 a.m.

    The really shouldn't be a big deal about the whole guarantee. How many times each week are there guarantees made all across the nation at pep rallies. It happens all the time. The difference here is the Utes heard about it. Big deal. Get over it. Is Joe Glenn supposed to say we're going to go in there and play pretty hard, but I think we'll get beat? It's his job to get the troops riled up, and what was said is said each and every week. Get over it!

  • Whambulance
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:14 a.m.

    These people upset at Coach KW make me sick. This is football, not girls ping pong. Glen needed to be taught a lesson, for opening up his mouth. Football is a game of emotion. If Wyoming didn't want Utah to run up the score and dominate. Maybe they should have played defense and special teams fundamentals. The onside kick just gave wyoming better field position. Give me Coach Whitt over Pony Mendanhall anyday.

  • Cougblue in TF
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:10 a.m.

    I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Cougar fan but it seems to me that memories can be very short. Remember how mad the Air Force Coach was when Crowton did the on-side kick early in the game against the Falcons some years ago? It is not a matter of being classless or running up the score. It is a matter of observing that the players on the opposing team drop back way early and very rapidly to set up a run back on kick off. It is a matter of good strategy and taking advantage of a weakness the other team exposes. Congratulations Utes. I didn't see any "easing up" by Wyoming last year. In fact, it seemed to me that Coach Glen was rather gleeful after the Cowboys hammered the Utes.

  • Great Job Whit!!
    Nov. 12, 2007 9:02 a.m.

    I attend the U but work in Wyoming during the summers. Pokes fans are the worst fans in the entire country. They have no respect for the other teams players even their own.

    They talk more trash after a losing season than Cougar or Ute fans do after an 10 win season.

    I loved than onside kick. Great game Utes. If I was the coach I would of put in my scout team and kept running my normal offense just to show the pokes that Utah's 1st and 2nd teams can whoop'em.

    Finally, I have a hard time saying this but...I hope BYU goes into Laramie and hangs 60 on'em right in front of the pokes sale-out crowd!!

  • Larry
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:59 a.m.

    This may have been Kyles best move yet!
    Now when Wyoming beats "YbU" then Utah Beats "YbU" the move will become clear!

  • bull
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:59 a.m.

    it is not the coach in the leads job to slow down. it is the other coach to stop them. if you can not then you need to work harder!!!!

  • UNDERSTAND
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:56 a.m.

    When is enough points for a lead? Does everyone forget when BYU played SMU and SMU had a big lead in the forth quarter with only a few min left in the game? What is enough points in a lead. SMU lost when BYU went crazy in the last 4 min of the game and won it.

  • Wyoming Whiners
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:57 a.m.

    After watching the game I just hope that Whit. kept some trick plays for BYU. I don't think eberyone should jump all over Whit. I think Wyoming was a good team to practice an onside kick against, wel may need it someday.
    The best part of the day was when a cornerback for the pokes got on T.V. whinning about how they ran up the score. Seriously kid it is your job to stop them, come on have some self respect don't cry becasue mercy wasn't granted by the U's second team O.
    What a whiner!

  • Look at these scores:
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:56 a.m.

    42-7, 38-0, 52-7, 38-8, 42-17, 55-7, 47-17

    Those are all BYU scores from this season and last. The 55-7 score happens to be the BYU/Wyoming score from last season.

  • Wyoming Classless
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:54 a.m.

    Did anyone notice how many Wyoming coaches and players walked directly off the field to the locker rooms without shaking hands with the Utes? That is more classless than anything Whit did during regulation.

    Whether or not an onsides kick is classless or not can be argued indefinitely.

    Coaches really have every right to call the plays they want and when they want. Exploiting a weakness in a team - no matter how many others you have exploited already - is the game of football.

    When you stop playing football - no matter what the score - that's when you start losing games.

    Wyoming - As well as everyone in the MWC - needs to learn that the big teams NEVER let up. Look at the pouncings they put on the "little guys" year after year.

    Comparitively, letting up would be like Tiger Woods being 20 under par on the 9th hole and paring the last 9. Or a runner slowing up before the finish line because he is too far ahead of the others.

    The first thing Wyoming needs to do is come to play 4 quarters of football. Then maybe they might start to guarantee some wins.

  • Cougars
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:54 a.m.

    As a hard core Cougar fan and one who despises the Utes I will say the onside kick made me laugh. Good one Kyle, after Glenns promise of a win he deserved to get spanked. Wyoming is done, they will roll over for BYU. Thanks Utes for spanking them so hard that they are way in the pits now. See you on Nov. 24th.

  • i love it
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:55 a.m.

    In football, the only classy thing to do is score on your opponent and stop them from scoring. I'd say utah outclassed everyone (except bsu) last saturday.

    Besides, the utes did them a favor, wyoming got the ball at the utah 40 yard line, do you think they could have gotten there on their own. nope. coach glen should have been thanking him for the charity.

  • Define class
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:54 a.m.

    Just because Utah only scored 10 points in the second have doesn't mean they didn't try to score more. Glenn was in the wrong and Whittingham was in the wrong. The actions of one doesn't excuse the other. I'm confused by anyone who thinks how Whittingham handled the situation was anything but classless. Teaching character to his players is obviously not very high on his list of priorities--certainly not high enough.

  • Get Over it
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:54 a.m.

    If you notice. Everyone leaving comments against the Utes.. are B Y boo fans. They need to get over it, and themselves? I think they're a little scared. And they should be. I agree on not doing the onside kick. But.. you say things like it was "classless and childish." Wasn't "guaranteeing" a win earlier in the week "childish and classes?" Point made.. it happened. He apologized publicly. Game is over, get over it and be ready!
    GO UTES!

  • face the facts
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:52 a.m.

    Great game coach!! I have always been a believer in taking it to um!! Never let up. This is not little league where we try to teach our kids respect and give everyone a chace to play. This is college ball and big wins make for big news. It worked!!! GO Utes

  • Classless Ute
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:53 a.m.

    This really is funny,

    I just realized, Edwards was never classless. Running the score up wasn't a problem for him. Because when he beat opponents soundly, his third and fourth strings were in. And he just asked his players to play hard and use those games to get better, so it would pay off when they faced a tough opponent. He didn't do it out of spite to settle a vendetta.

    Never mind! We're justified! Call me classless Ute, if you want to. Everyone disrespects us. Oh well, we need a chip on our shoulders so we can ride this emotion against BYU.

  • DMW
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:53 a.m.

    I watched a lot of the game and lost even more respect for Whittingham. Wyoming is hurting right now, if you remember San Diego State outscored Wyoming 27-3 and racked up over 250 yards in just a little over two quarters. Fake punts, flea flickers and on-side kicks equals classless. The excuse that Wyoming might come back, right, they haven't had much offense all year long.

  • BYU Alum
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:49 a.m.

    I am one that was very disappointed when KW turned down BYU. Like thousands of others, over the last three seasons I have come to be more and more grateful that he did. He really taught his players some valuable life lessons on Saturday!! Not only did BYU get the better coach, they got the better man!

  • a strategy
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:47 a.m.

    The reason why the utes did so many unusual thing after securing the win on saturday was for future games. It was a smart strategic move on the part of the coaches. Now UNM and BYU will have to spend extra practice time preparing for those things. I'm sure it was part of the gameplan to show those plays no matter what the score was. The onside kick was also part of the plan, now the kick return teams will not be as effective because they will have to stay and make sure the ball is kicked deep. Kyle probably should have called off the kick but I understand what was going on.

  • Steve
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:47 a.m.

    "Whittingham noted that there where a lot of dynamics involved in the situation and running the score up wasn't one of them. He pointed out that the Utes ran the ball 18-of-19 plays in the fourth quarter and took their starters out."

    Who is convinced by this (lie) statement? You had already done the damage before the fourth quarter! You ran more gadget plays than a flag football team, many after you were miles ahead. It looks like you just can't say I'm sorry and leave it at that.

  • Suprised?!
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:47 a.m.

    Everyone is acting surprised at what Whit did? Are ya'' serious? Come on, this is the yewts we're talking about, and classess is their way of thinking. Class simply is not in their vocabulary (probably because it's not vulgur, crude or obscene) and anyone who was surprised by Whit's classless act is living in lala land.

    Plain and simple, Whit was piling it on and running up the score, which is nothing short of pathetic when you're up 43-0. It's one thing to continue scoring if the other team simply cannot stop you, but to keep on scoring through trick plays and onside kicks is a joke.

    I used to like Whit and thought he was a good guy, but no more. He's as classless as any yewt.

  • uteowl
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:46 a.m.

    Boy. the Zoobies just can't stay away from articles on us. Look at the amount of "concern" for our unsportsmanlike coach's actions and their choice of words used to express THEIR umbridge at our offense against a team that they'd love to be able to beat in similar fashion. Talk about who is unsportsmanlike. Starting to sound like fear to me.

    Jimmy's right. Glenn and his 'Pokes got what they deserved. And as someone said yesterday, since when do you stop scoring runs in baseball or putting the puck in the net because your "embarrassing" the other team. Don't remember the esteemed LE doing it when he was trying to get the attention of the Eastern press in the 80's.

  • nottyou
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:41 a.m.

    Kyle, When coaches make guarantees, sometimes they pay...nicely executed onside kick! Keep up the grooming for being an assistant coach someday at BYU. You are a trader at heart, but we'll take you back.

  • What a display!
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:39 a.m.

    Utes always run on emotion. But this is insane. An opposing coach coming off a loss where the other team came from way behind on them, then guarantees to his student body that they are going to get a win, and the Utes flip out. Typical! Always want respect, and this is how you think you get it.

    Trick plays, fake punts, onside kicks. Apparently Wyoming was a big enough threat to pull out all of this stuff. But I guess when U lose to Wyoming in the previous year, it kinda stings. Guarantee no matter how much U complain, U won't get that one back. U like that Ute fans? Your coach has been saving up all year for the wrong team. Unless U really think Wyoming is the team to beat.

  • Idaho observer
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:39 a.m.

    It is hard for me to understand how a foolish remark of promising a win could be so offensive to a team and fans, and yet try to justify a classless act of the onside kick in the same category. My observation is that both the Utah team, the fans and the coaches have little class to let such a remark get under their skin and then pound it in their face the way they did.
    Good luck on the rest of your season Utah because you may need it. Maybe New Mexico will pound it down you like you did to Wyoming. We can all hope.

  • Ute fan in England
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:38 a.m.

    If Glenn is going to insult Kyle and the Utes, he should put his finger away and take whats coming to him. If you were playing a football video game and your friend guaranteed a victory, youd bet youd run up the score on him, and thats exactly what happened here. Kyle shouldnt have to apologize.

  • Bob
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:35 a.m.

    So I guess that the game after Being up 40 points should be only a defensive game from that point so send the offense home !

    There have been many teams up by allot of points only to have the other team come back and win!

    No finger gestures in any game is sportsman like!

    Just a bunch of winers!
    Wake up don't be so narrow minded!


  • DH
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:35 a.m.

    How is guaranteeing a victory bad? A spit in the face? Athlete's look for anything they can to motivate them, to make them angry enough to fight hard. But for a coach or player to guarantee a victory is no big deal and does not justify childish behavior by the opposing coach.

  • What a bunch of babies!
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:33 a.m.

    Dear posters,

    Quit your crying. When Urban was here, he would always pound the other team by at least 40, yet no one complained then. And stuff like this goes on in the East all the time! I have never heard such a bunch of babies in my life! Dnews should have a special baby board so you can all go to it and whine your heads off together!

  • this is funny
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:30 a.m.

    To Classless, you have appropriately named yourself. Remember who Kwhit played for in college and you will know why he ran the score up against a hapless opponent. Thats what he leaned from Edwards.

  • Bill
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:29 a.m.

    "My emotions got the best of me, and after thinking about it, I wouldn't have done it in hindsight" he explained. "But emotions were running high as you could tell both from what we did and the reaction on the other team. That's the nature of sports, I guess. At times your emotions get in the way of sound decision-making"

    THIS SOUNDS LIKE THE EXCUSE OF A 9 YEAR OLD! I'M SURE GLAD HETOOK THE UTAH JOB. BE SURE TO PUT THIS ON YOUR RESUME, WHITT, MAYBE YOU CAN BECOME THE D-LINE COACH AT OREGON OR FLORIDA.

  • Theres more
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:29 a.m.

    It wasn't just the onside kick. Other classless moves inlcluded the fake punt when up by 26 and calling two timeouts in the red zone trying to score when up by 40. Oh and the end of the game gretting and congratulations was complete class-less.

    Utah won, but they sacrificed a good name for it. Whit can pretend to be sorry but he is now the bottom of the league among coaches. The repercussion of this game in his profession will last a long time. He really continues to take the program down.

  • William
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:25 a.m.

    Are we forgetting the gesture that Wyoming coach made !
    Is that acceptable behavior! I think not !

    Regardless whether the onside kick was right or wrong,
    The gesture was obviously wrong!

  • Immature
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:25 a.m.

    Ifyour emotions get away from you in the second half of a game while leading by 42 points, you have a problem. Add me to the lsit of folks who are happy Whit turned down the Y. Two nights before, Bronco had his guys take a knee four yards from a score that would have made a five point win look better -- perhaps learning from the incident that started Gary Crowton 's downfall -- or perhaps because he just has a little more class.

  • DH
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:25 a.m.

    This is not the nature of sports, it's what's wrong with sports. This was a classless act by a coach who let his emotions dominate him. I don't blame Glen for giving him the bird though it was a shame to see him stoop to Wittingham's level.

  • Classy Utes?!?
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:25 a.m.

    What a baby! Fussy! Whiney! Everything Utes say they don't want to be.

    That was a pathetic show of emotion. Whittingham wasn't even over it after the game, clearly put out and upset in post game interviews. Over what? Nothing warranted that poor display.

  • running up score
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:20 a.m.

    I appreciate the argument for running up the score. I can see why some people would be for it. But keep this in mind: When you do something like what the utes did, you risk injury. Wyoming sees something like that and suddenly they are out to get the ute players. They take low hits on them. They try and twist arms and legs when tackling. If you want to run up the score, go for it. But if you do, be prepared for possible injuries. If a key player gets injured while you are running up the score, be prepared to accept the responsibility and look really really bad as a coach...that just shows immaturity and wont score Kyle any brownie points with is AD....

  • Scott
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:18 a.m.

    I do not consider by only adding 10 points thru an entire half of football running up the score!

    Certainly if Utah could score 40 in the first half it was also possible for Wyoming to do the same!

    You act like no team has over comeback from a half time Lead!! Second guessing after a game is always easy! Try it during the game I bet your result will be much different!

  • non story
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:16 a.m.

    The Utes scored 40 points in the first half and only 10 in the second. There is no story here.

  • rockhound
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:14 a.m.

    No more sportsmanship in college football. Everyone talks a big game, and there is much sportmanship AFTER the deeds are done. The conference has a sportsmanship policy, but never enforces it....blah, blah, blah. No wonder our high school kids and coaches do what they do.

  • Brilliant Move
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:12 a.m.

    Kyle knows what he is doing. He knows the schedule and he knows the standings. Wyoming is mad. Wyoming is spitting nails right now while preparing for BYU.

    After this weekend we will control our own destiny as far as the conference championship goes.

    The late apology was to appease the media.

  • justme
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:09 a.m.

    The Wyoming coach ate his words, for sure. But when it became obvious that the outcome was never in doubt, Whittingham should have taken the "higher road" and not used it as an excuse to run up the score.
    Now, next year the Cowboys will have every reason to be extra motivated when Utah visits their field. Things like this tend to even out in life, so, if not next year, then sometime soon the Utes will reap what they've sown. I know that I'll be watching...

  • WilkeCollins
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:05 a.m.

    Hmmm....Classless is letting the bird fly in a situation like that. I know the disrespect goes both ways but a gesture like that has no place anywhere in the game and I have yet to read that Glenn apologized for that.

  • Kyle is Kobra Kai Sensai
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:05 a.m.

    Strike first, strike hard, no mercy sir!

  • 3rd Gen Cougar Fan
    Nov. 12, 2007 8:01 a.m.

    Glad to see Whittingham take some responsibility for his poor decision to attempt the onside kick after going up 43-0. It was definitely not a very classy move, and tainted an otherwise amazing performance from Utah. The CSTV commentators were speechless and could come to no other conclusion other than that it was "classless" and that it tainted the victory quite a bit. Glenn's response with the single finger salute was even more juvenile. I hope he gets reprimanded by the league. I think that way too much was made of the guarantee though. Glenn was not speaking to the media, or to the Utes, he was speaking to boosters and it was blown WAY out of proportion. Obviously Whittingham and staff used the statement to motivate his players and I don't blame him for doing so, but I don't think it was justification for the "in your face" onside kick, and to hear Whittingham use it as an excuse for in the post game press conference was disgusting. I am glad to see he is backing away from that now.

  • Wow Whittingham
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:58 a.m.

    Great game for the Utes! It looks like they have it going at just the right time (the end of the season) where they have a chance to win out and grab a share of the title. You have to wonder about Whittingham saying his judgement was clouded in the heat of the moment. Decision making is most important when emotions are high. Isn't that why you have coaches? Wow Whittingham!

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:56 a.m.

    This whole thing is about respect? Whittingham wasn't teaching his team respect Saturday. His regrets come a little too late.

  • Non-believer
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:53 a.m.

    Sorry Whittinham don't believe your excuse for a minute. The excitement of the game - PLEEESE. Don't want to be you when you travel to Laramie next year. The Cowboys have a history of giving as good as they get. Instead of calling you Coach Whittingham, let's just call you "No-class" Whittngham. Absolutely no excuse. You are such a role model for your players. NOT Glad you are not at BYU. Standards are a little higher there.

  • No Respect
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:51 a.m.

    Even though I'm not a Utes fan I had more respect than that for Wittingham. That was clearly a lack of class.

  • Coach C
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:43 a.m.

    Whit said. "You have to be accountable. You can't just wash it by the way side. "

    Sooooo, Whit. While you will be named the coach of the year in the MWC and will most likely beat BYU AND have the backing of the Utah media. The ons-sides kick while up 43-0 was Bush-league at best.

    I appreciate the apology, however, I think this action spoke volumes about you. I have a few former players on your team. I recommend you live up to the committment they made to you. I expect you to be a role model, not a jerk, regardless of the comments and actions the other coach and team made. I look to your actions, not his.

    Good luck for the rest of the season and beyond, but I refuse to recommend your program in the future. As you stated, "You have to be accountable."

  • Aaron
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:41 a.m.

    I'm glad that Coach Whittingham is sorry, but he has been involved in football for his whole life. Emotion is a lame excuse, and it was a low-class thing to do. This is how bad blood is created. Anyone remember Crowton's feud with Air Force?

  • bluefan
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:37 a.m.

    I just get more and more happy Whittingham didn't accept BYU's offer.

  • GEA
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:31 a.m.

    Interesting. On the "Red Zone" (Channel 4) last night night KW expressed no remorse for the onside kick and in fact tried to justify it. Maybe it was taped before his afternoon remarks. I doubt it though.

  • Gretzky
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:29 a.m.

    Wittingham is classless. Case closed. Go Cougars!!!

  • True Blue Y Fan
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:18 a.m.

    Yea he had better. I don't like the U at all, but that lost all respect that I have ever had for them of for kyle. Well the Y will show the U who is boss.

  • Gene
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:09 a.m.

    I acceept Kyle's regret for trying the onsides kick. As an Alumni I am proud of the U of U. I don't want to see things that embarrase the school. Let's put this to rest. Enough said.

    Go Utah, finish a successful season.

  • Texas Fan
    Nov. 12, 2007 7:02 a.m.

    If you are a mature respectable coach and the score is 43-0 you do not allow this to happen: "At times your emotions get in the way of sound decision-making." I hope Coach Whittingham has called Coach Glenn and apologized. If Coach Glenn is still at Wyoming next year I hope he shows he is a better man and does not do something he will regret. Sportsmanlike conduct at all times is the best way to go.

  • Fan in MS
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:58 a.m.

    How can Coach Glenn be mad at Utah for an onside kick, when he makes a childish comment that guarantees a victory over a team that he knows is playing better than his?
    I admit that the onside kick wasnt the smartest decision ever made by a coach, but it isnt quite in the class of guaranteeing a victory either. Both coaches made a mistake last week. Glenns was just a worse one.

  • guaranteed win?
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:54 a.m.

    How is it that the Utes are so insecure that they take a comment like that as a "spit in the face"? I think every time I play any sport that I am going to win. If I don't, then congratulations to the other team, but I would think that every time you go out there, you should expect to win - whether you say it or not.

  • Utah Man
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:51 a.m.

    Why is everyone still talking about the stupid onside? Get over it!!! Utah wasn't trying to run up the score, there was like 12 minutes in the third and it's not Utah's fault Wyoming can't stop them!

    I mean seriously, people are making to big a deal of this whole situation.

    GO UTES!!!!!!!

    PS- Now it's time for New Mexico......Gonna be a good game......Prediction: Utah-27 UNM-13

  • hosstalk
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:49 a.m.

    excuses are symptoms of thoughtlessness

  • Classless
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:49 a.m.

    Whittingham - classless? Yewts - classless? I never knew. And by the way, why does it take a guarantee from the other team to motivate the yewts?

  • Jimmy's Sneakers
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:47 a.m.

    Jimmy thinks Glenn got we he deserved. It is one thing for a player to foolishly guarantee victory, but quite another for the head coach to do so. Jimmy thinks what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

  • coach
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:45 a.m.

    I used to tell the quarter back to fumble the ball or throw an interception to the other team and get away so he didn't get hurt.

    There are many ways to apologize for running up the score..

  • NC
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:45 a.m.

    Sorry Whit...it was still extremely classless. Step it up and be the man that BYU thought you were when they offered you Bronco's job.

  • premature
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:32 a.m.

    Now have a better definition of class. Reading this article and seeing the Coach's show last night, Kyle IS remorseful about his decision. Now that he has publicly said he is regretful judge his class now. He did not throw more wood on the fire and say Wyoming deserved more, he expressed remorse.
    How many fans will now step back and reconsider their comments about coach Kyle? I doubt we see many of you come back in with comments that you may have regret for what you said about his being "classless."
    Go Utes and keep up the good work Kyle!

  • Don White
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:14 a.m.

    I have never been a believer in "pilling it on" against bad teams, but in this case you have a fine Wyoming team that had the potential to come back and beat Utah in the second half. The score was 40-0 after one half and Utah only scored 10 points thereafter, running the ball 18 of 19 attempts in the last quarter. To be completely true to die-hard Utah fans a Utah coach should never let up on a worthy opponent.How many times has "Cowboy Joe" let up on the Utes? Is this a college athletic competition or are we out on the lawn playing a friendly game of croquet and to sooth the feelings of an obviously frusted losing Coach Glenn? Advice to Coach Whittingham: before you let up on anyone, think of your own players first and your loyal fans.They don't come to see a super team like the Utes suddenly become mediocre. Letting up in sports, in baseball or boxing for example, is actually dishonest and can get you suspended. Players who come to play should never be asked to take it easy on the opponent, even to satisfy some "good-old-boy" coaches network.

  • Calculated
    Nov. 12, 2007 6:12 a.m.

    Sorry. I don't by Kwitt's "apology". I watched the game from start to finish, and that onsides kick was a calculated move. He wasn't caught up in an "emotional" moment, despite all the other trick plays he ran.

    The play was classless (look at what the score was when it happened) and it will come back to bite him.

  • MY
    Nov. 12, 2007 5:28 a.m.

    What a hoot! Utah gets even for the way Wyoming treated them last year (and they did not "take it easy" on Utah. They would have run up the score to 100 if they could have). Now Wyoming seems to have forgotten where this all began and they are going to get even with Utah next year. Wyoming, you reap what you sow.

  • Taylor. C
    Nov. 12, 2007 5:19 a.m.

    No question about it, unsportsmanlike behavior.
    Good teams are usually a class act, this was immature and petty.

  • stu
    Nov. 12, 2007 4:35 a.m.

    The AD for Utah should have had the sense to call Kyle into his office and give him a spanking. Everybody is focusing on the on side kick. What about the flea flicker and the fake punt and other plays and not taking your players out earlier. Kyle admitted to having his emotions get away with him. That may be true once, but so many other factors remain unrepentant and unaccounted for. I think cougars fans got the classier guy. He acted like a guy who stole the girl at the beach, (which the utes did), needless to kick sand in the face too.

  • BYU fan
    Nov. 12, 2007 2:17 a.m.

    Wyoming was never a bastion of good sportsmanship. Good for the Utes, I'm glad they throttled them. But you'll still be 2nd in the MWC.