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Scouts may be thrifty, but some leaders are well paid

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A Program is NOT Doctrine | 1:04 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

Scouting is a program in the Church, and programs come and go. The current scouting program has run it's course, and either needs to be drastically modified or done away with. The Church does not need the BSA and their over paid executives! We can do much better by starting our own in-house program.

U.S. Army Airborne Ranger | 1:08 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

I owe to the leadership skills taught me by many great scouting leaders, my entrance to the United States Military Academy and the lives of the many fine soldiers I lead in harms way as a company commander in South Vietnam. My three sons are Eagle scouts and have used the leadership skills learned through that experience. Paul Moore was brought in from Oklahoma by our council for his demonstrated skills and he has taken an unsatisfactory financial situation and brought it to one of the best in the nation. Paul is the first Non-Mormon to lead this council. He is very skilled and highly rated among his peers. He came here not knowing how well he would be accepted by the many volunteers in the area and has exceeded everyoneï¿½s expectations. He and his family have become part of our community and this has actually been a sacrifice from the salary he would have received from more traditional large councils. Paul Moore has a great sense of integrity and has given his all for the uplifting and training of thousands of young men to become leaders in our society.

Surprised | 1:09 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

I have to shake my head at the attempt to justify compensation for Scout executives by pointing at school district superintendents. The skill set required for superintendents (and the competition to keep them) is, in my judgment, substantially greater than is the case with Scout executives. I have drawn no hard conclusion on whether executive salaries in that range are justifiable in the abstract (I have my doubts), but I am certain they cannot be justified by comparing the two types of positions. And, for the record, I am not (and have never been) a school district employee.

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Let's See | 1:25 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

BA degree in German, Spanish and Russian
Masters in Counseling
Special Education Credential
33 years in education
60 hour weeks plus 40-50 night events to supervise during school year.
Moore earns more than twice what it took me to get after all the education and years of working.

To tell me that you can't get someone as competent as Paul Moore for half the price. Especially when policies are basically laid in stone and the volunteers in the trenches do 90% of the work.

Something is wrong here. It will be interesting to see how much money is collected now for SME. What timing this article is!

The Aaronic Priesthood activity program is operated through the mutual and is based on region and cultural of the region or country. Scouting is not world-wide.

Scouts who are not interested or are forced by parents who are not involved and often led by men who are not inspired to be part of this program.

Saw scouting florish as a youth, then stake pulled our leaders to work in stake. New men called and program went down the tube. They weren't interested in doing what we did to get eagle scouts.

From Scouting Program | 1:32 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

My family has been heavily involved in scouting and I expect my boys to become eagle scouts. However as a mother, I did not go through the scouting program and did not know how it worked. We had one good leader until she moved (cub leader) and with her gone, my boys will have to progress through the ranks largely by my efforts, not as much the ward-called leaders who it seems would rather be at home with their families.

I don't know if the reaction to this article is so much about Mr. Moore and the other leaders' salaries as it is about so many people seeing that there is something that has vitally changed in society and scouts has not changed too.I haven't been involved in it long enough to understand what it is about scouts that is so difficult for so many people.

Keep it up Mr. Moore! But you may be overseeing some sort of major shift in the scouting program in Utah!

David H | 1:32 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

Most of those contributing comments to this article have no idea about what the real purposes of scouting are. Scouting where run correctly, builds YM into quality adults. They learn organizatonal, leadership and life building skills. (You cannot find these principles in the Boys and Girls Clubs or 4 H.) There is no other organization that can claim such objectives. The LDS Church's Duty to God program is not able to do this. It is an acheivement program not a leadership development program.

Scouting is expensive, but what is the value of a boy? Just look at the number of YM that this program affects. Take a look at your testimonies for you LDS members. We have been repeatedly counseled to support Friends of Scouting and I intend to continue to support this worthy organization as long as I am asked to do so.

Scouting is Fun | 1:37 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

Amortization? Why? That's handled by school.

We do teach interviewing. Every advancement is accompanied by a Board of Review which is an interview.

Sheepshanks and half-hitches are more important than Excel spreadsheets. When you're tying a tarp ontop of your pick-up, which will do you more good? The knots or Excel?

Sure that one fellow is paid alot but it is a large council. Small councils pay less. Professional Scouters work their tails off and the compensation is low until you reach the upper ranks.

Let's See Again | 1:48 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

Perhaps his salary should be based on accomplishments, and I don't mean getting more boys involved in scouting. I would say that based on what I have heard only about 2% of scouts attain the rank of an eagle.

Let's base professional scouters salaries on the increase in eagle scouts 10-20% or higher. If he increased the number of young men receiving tenderfoot, star, life, and eagle significantly then we should be discussing pay raises, not time away from families: truck drivers do that and don't get compensated equally.

Scouting faired far better when the adults who worked with the kids could also earn those same merit badges, but when they decided they couldn't it started on a downward spiral. If someone can work side by side with their son or neighbor they are far more interested in doing the work and show far more enthusiasm.

I still believe in scouting and I do agree knot tieing is valuable, I still use it regularly, and so does fire building, etc. Let's set some sensible paramenters and go from there.

Carl Rickerson | 1:49 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

It was shocking to read this article. It seems many connect experiences as a Scout or Scouter with the notion of loyal payment of money to the councils. The fact is, does Scouting need professionals? I know of some men and women, all volunteers, who administer programs to over 13 million people worldwide. I think Scouting should use the church as a model of what can be done with volunteers. I join many others in vowing never again to donate a dollar (or a penny) to this absurd friends of scouting program.

Still a Friend of Scouting | 1:50 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

Wow! What a lot of negative comments! I hardly recognize the Scouting movement that I know and love in these posts.

It is easy to get hung up on executive compensation and imagine that we could do as well for less. I have often wondered why the CEO of my company should be paid $12,600,000 (yes, that's 12.6 million dollars!).

However, most of the complaints above are about bad experiences, not the compensation itself. My own experience as a 2nd Class Scout was less than satisfactory. But I wouldn't trade my experience with adults and young men as a Scouter for the world. I appreciate the influence of dedicated Scout leaders on my Eagle Scout sons and many other young men I have known over the years.

Scouting is not dead, irrelevant or ineffective. Its values are timeless, and those professional Scouters and volunteers who dedicate themselves to passing those values to young men are true heroes!

Let's not abandon this great organization! I will donate to Friends of Scouting as long as I have a dime to my name.

Listen to yourselves | 2:02 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

Statistically, people who brag about past contributions, and then pledge to never donate again due to new information, actually never gave to begin with. I will continue to give because I still believe in Scouting. When I see what Scouting has done for my two sons I realize that I owe much more than the small amount I can give each year to Friends of Scouting.

Not Surprised. | 2:06 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

I have long thought the BSA was over-exagerated and over-paid. I also questioned just how many boy's lives are changed by BSA. I know there are some, but do the high costs outweigh the benefit?

I worked in the non-profit sector for most of my career at several different organizations, one of which was the Boys and Girls Clubs. I know there were clubs outside of Utah that had high-paid administrations, but not here. I felt BGC's impact on kids was much higher than BSA, and for less money. BGC deals with their kids up to six days a week. They help them with their homework, teach computers, constructive activities, etc. They provide this for less money, helping keep kids off the streets after school while their parents are working.

I stopped contributing to FOS because I could get more bang for my buck elsewhere. And yes, I'm active LDS and wish the church would make it's own program.

I NEVER made that much working in nonprofits. Probably not many in Utah. I'm sure Moore works hard, but I think our money is better spent elsewhere. FOS should not be done through the church. Inspiration will provide a better program.

Joe | 2:19 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

$214,000 per year......$500,000 per year...for professional scouters...and the bishop asked for friends of scouting donations today to contribute to this? I know I'm not the sharpest tool in the box,... but this just does not feel right.

WeBeLows? | 2:37 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

More accurately, it should be WeBeHighs, as in too highly paid!!! How can they justify that? I hope they have the moral character to fix this gross over payment I'm sure they must feel they are "worth" it, but couldn't that money be better used towards the scouts themselves? They seem to follow the scout motto well - being so financially prepared and all. But maybe they need to understand the oath a little better and keep themselves morally straight here. Or maybe scouts should just go the way of the Dodo.

Anonymous | 2:37 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

When in the course of human events...
It is self-evident that the Church should sever its relationship with the BSA. In my opinion Duty to God is a MUCH better program and I would be happy to donate my resources (time and money) to a Church-run program because it would be well run in addition to being inspired.
The BSA will not be receiving any more money from our family.

Justification doesn't add up | 2:44 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

Working longer hours and missing weekends gives you an entitlement to make 214K? You compare school leaders that make 130k. That is a huge difference. Get your salaries down. Nobody!!! Should be making over a 150K as a top local guy in the BSA.

I'm an eagle scout and when the times comes for Friends of Scouting. I will be declining this time until I hear further if anything has been done.

Learned Early | 2:46 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

I haven't donated to FOS for years now. Still won't. Sadly, in my job I have seen many accomplished liars that are Eagle scouts. Maybe they got their practice by seeing their parents "verify" all the things they did to get their Eagles? Want more bang for your buck? Focus on the Duty to God program.

ScienceGuy | 2:52 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

So, how much should they earn?

Big J | 2:58 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

Where do we find out what the other high paid execs make

Tom | 3:01 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

I became an eagle scout at the age of 14, back in 1976. This was shortly after the BSA reduced the requirements to become an eagle. Today, the requirements are even more watered down. If you earned your eagle in the 60s, then that is impressive. It used to require a lot of hard work that you performed on your own. Why is it constantly watered down? Because, the BSA executives know that the more boys who get their advancements, the longer those boys stay in the program, the more badges they sell, the more registration money they recieve, the more parents ignorantly give money to FOS. In short,the security of their high paying jobs will always come first. If you have someone who is pushing the program, all the boys have to do is show up and do a few simple things on their own, and they make eagle at 14. It's not a glorious accomplishment. It's like HS graduation. Show up every day and study a little and you are there. In my opinion, the administrative monstrosity that has become the BSA, is a complete joke.
A high paid scouting position isn't "service" in scouting, it's "money".

A real live Boy Scout | 3:10 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

I am a Scout and I like scouting. I enjoy Duty to God more, and I wish we did more of it. I am aware of no 'services' given by the BSA. A 'service' is free; not compensated.
What the Great Salt Lake Council dude said about touting stuff like Jamborees is a farce. I've never been to one because you have to PAY to go to them. My ward PAYS for scout camp. Heck, the scouts have to PAY and WORK themselves to go. It costs hundreds of dollars to send the scouts to camps, but we learn WAY MORE at Youth Conferences and church activities. (We have a better time too.)

Frankly, we youth love the church originated programs, and we find the Scouting Programs pretty darn boring, expensive, and time-consuming. We're practically glad to not go to scout camp, sadly enough. The camp directors don't know squat and they're mean.

Enough said. Please, respond to this adults and fellow scouters. Let me know if I and my friends are alone or if others feel the same way.

DougS | 3:16 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

DavidH: The Duty to God program was NOT meant to teach organizational, leadership, and life-building skills? And the BSA is the only program on the face of the earth capable of teaching these values?

You've got to be kidding.

I don't interpret any counsel I've received from my church leaders as a directive to take the funds I'd use to feed, clothe, and shelter my family and instead devote them to the enrichment of a couple of BSA executives. And I'd seriously question any church that DID give that counsel.

The BSA teaches values that are useful and, in my view, very relevant today. It may well be that Mr. Moore accepted his position with the BSA, and generally carries out his duties, with the purest of motives. He can demonstrate that by refunding half of his salary to the Red Cross, LDS Humanitarian Services or another bona fide charity.

Scout Master | 3:23 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

I'm a Scout Master in my ward, and this very article will keep me from donating to Friends of Scouting.

2 Eagles | 3:25 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

As a single father of 2 Eagle Scouts, it makes me sick that these people are being paid like that. Many of us who have kids in Scouts sacrifice, cut, work more than one job so our sons can have this experience, which I believe is a good one. I see local Scout leaders also sacrificing along with their families. I don't have a problem with these other men being paid, but I believe $75,000 should be fine. That's what many high school administrators earn and I don't believe anyone in public service works harder than those people.

BB | 3:28 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

After reading through many of these comments, I am surprised at the ignorance of people in regards to Scouting and what makes it function. I spent three years as a professional Scouter. I loved the job, but had no personal life. I often worked from 7:00 in the morning until 11:00 at night, sometimes six or seven days in a week. I was responsible for every aspect of the program within my district. I recruited boys and leaders, did training, organized Scout and day camps, supervised district leadership, and much more. I left because I was having to make too many sacrifices of family and personal time. Good Scout leadership at the professional level is worth every penny and probably much more. What other program teaches boys to be men and men of integrity. I would trade one good Scouting professional for a dozen average school teachers. Even though I haven't been employed by BSA in 25 years, I have continued my annual financial support (even though I have five daughters) because it is one of the programs that can really make a difference in our nation.

Alternative YM Program | 3:33 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

There already is an alternative LDS Young Men's Program and it is being utilized in every LDS unit outside the U.S. I know from experience that it is A GREAT PROGRAM too!

The LDS church is probably reluctant to move away from the BSA program because it still works to some degree and church money is, most likely, keeping BSA from going under.

It might be time for the LDS church to run its own less bureaucratic and more effective program in the U.S..

Brad Anderson | 3:33 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

This is just one MORE reason I will never let my boys join the scouts. My first reason is that they will not include EVERYONE!

BahHumbug to Scouting | 3:36 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

I knew that the "professional" scouters got paid, but this is a joke! No more funding the Friends of Scouting from my home. The Church needs to pull away from the BSA now.

Eric | 3:37 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

I wonder if all who have complained about the Scout executives' pay also complain that Bronco Mendenhall's salary is supposedly more than $500,000 annually. I suppose the only way to know if the executives are worth what we pay them is to replace them with people currently worth (and getting paid), let's say, $40,000 and see if the Scout program runs any better, the same or worse. I am not willing to make that kind of a risk. Do we need to re-evaluate the execs' salaries? Probably, but let's not have the program dissolved over an article that makes most of feel underpaid.

Scout Supporter | 3:50 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

TOO MUCH! The BSA accomplishes myriad good in this world, but think how much more good they could do by turning that excessive salary into facilities and no-cost activities--things that directly benefit the boys! No BSA council executive is worth more than $80,000 a year, period. At least Bronco Mendenhall's work directly brings a lot of money and recognition to the university--not a valid comparison.

S T | 3:51 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

A few points of comparison..

The head of BSA is getting near $1,000,000 a year

The head of the United Way --- $375,000

The head of the Red Cross -- $500,000.

Both those organizations are far larger and have far greater revenues than BSA (Red Cross alone raised $5.5 billion last year. BSA was only $179 million).

LDS family in California | 3:52 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

On our ward level I have seen talented, dedicated men and women run outstanding local programs for their cub scouts, and then scouts. I supported my son as much as possible, and encouraged him to participate. He loved and admired his leaders (still does in his mid-20's), and they helped him all they could. He hated scouting, campouts, snow camping, hiking 30 miles etc. If he had not participated there was no alternative for him on a weeknight, and group activities with his church member peers would have been practically non-existent. He received his Duty to God award, but quit Scouts after becoming a "life scout".

Many years earlier a younger brother, not athletic at all, and totally disinterested in doing outdoor activities, gradually was left out of YM (i.e. Scouting!) and became inactive, and still is today.

Working in Young Women for years outside of Utah,I have participated in the Personal Progress program with them, helped plan and raise money for the EXCELLENT yearly camp. It works!

Our Church can support scouting, but it should not be the ONLY program offered for young men.

Susan | 3:55 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

Although I do not live in Utah, I am a den leader and committee member with a son who is currently a Webelos I. We have sold popcorn for four years, and have made generous donations to Friends of Scouting for the past three years. After reading this article, no more popcorn sales or Friends of Scouting donations for me. I will instead give that money directly to our Pack to be used for our boys and to help boys who need financial assistance to participate in scouting. Those salaries are absurd and completely unjustifiable even if they are working 60 hours a week. Do the math!

For Benjamin | 3:56 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

Benjamin--

I've seen my husband leave for school at 7:00 am and return at 12:00 midnight MANY days over a period of 30 years as he took care of his duties as teacher and/or principal of a high school. I saw him agonize over problems with teachers, coaches, parents, students, athletes, , etc. I saw him lose countless hours of sleep over worry when a kid brought a gun to school, lawsuits threatened and filed over various issues, having to fire teachers who didn't perform up to expectations...Calls day and night from angry parents over teachers, coaches, other students, you name it. Calls from parents in the middle of the night on a weekend who couldn't find their child (I'm really not sure why HE was supposed to know where they were on a Saturday night). I could go on forever. The TOP salary my husband brought home was $73,000. I won't complain about his salary. He LOVES education and we haven't wanted for anything in life but I have no tears to shed with Mr. Moore.

Thad LeVar | 3:57 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

Add one more name to the list of those who will not donate to FOS in the future.

Bureaucracy | 4:07 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

This year our ward donated $3300 to FOS. Our entire annual budget for the YM program was $1800. So the administrative overhead ratio, in our case, is nearly 2:1. Time to restructure or reinvent the organization. The organization now has the same objective of all bureaucracies: to promote, protect and justify it's own existence.

What does this all have to do with teaching the boys values and a love of the outdoors?

Suprised | 4:07 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

I wonder what percentage of the donations come from people that make less than the people being supported by the donations.

I understand that that these people work full time. The fact that they might be able to earn more at a for- profit company doesn't mean they should be paid as much as an executive at a for-profit company.

They ask everyone else to sacrifice for scouting. They should lead by example. They should earn a living wage, not an executive wage.

Hey Mr Factual Comparisons | 4:15 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

The problem people have with scout execs making soo much money is their salary comes entirely from DONATIONS. Nobody should make this much income off other peoples donations.

Robo | 4:17 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

An alternate program has been in place since the Supreme Court considered the BSA case a few years ago regarding the role of God in scouting. The vote was 5-4 allowing scouting to continue requiring some sort of belief in God. If one justice had voted the other way, I believe the church would not now be affilitated with scouting. I also think a break from BSA is warranted because the church could do it better and cheaper. I believe that it likely will come eventually. Until then, I do my best to support the program because the boys need it and they are what matter the most.

Naive | 4:33 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

Thanks to Lee Davidson and Editor Joe Cannon for such an insightful, hard hitting article. Obviously, I have been totally clueless, ignorant or naive as I've faithfully supported, endorsed and even been an active participant in Friends of Scouting for many years. This will no longer be the case after this expose. Many other comments already stated express many of the same feelings I've had as I incredulously read this article this afternoon.

In Tooele | 4:34 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

It makes me sad to see how many people have complained about FOS because they did not understand where the donation went.

I am from Canada, living in Tooele. Every year my Dad was asked to spend $50 per boy. I think of his sacrifice and wonder if any one who has complained would sacrifice as he did to send 4 boys through the program. That is $200 a year.

Yes, You are paying their salaries. IT is a SACRIFICE. It takes professionals to run the program. They spend 60+ hours a week. I know some professionals who have callings in Bishoprics and Stake Presidencies. Those who are scouting professionals are required to donate each year.

Those who have complained, if you get your wish, and you squash Scouting will find that the world will be a quagmire of your own creation. I for one will stand where the LDS church leaders asked me to stand and will support Scouting and Friends of Scouting each year.

LDS family in California | 4:39 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

Continued from previous post ----

I do not think that the Church should REQUIRE a ward to donate a certain amount to FOS, and particularly put that burden on the Bishop, who is already putting in many many hours of service, and being away from his family. He already attends all the ward activities, usually goes to camp and other outings with the young men - and in our ward with the Young Women too!

It sounds like in Utah there is a lot of pressure put on the local wards to meet a high FOS goal. Isn't it supposed to be purely voluntary?

The ward members are already donating to the local pack, and being supportive of fund-raisers for both the Young Men and Young Women camps and other activities. In addition to tithing, fast offering, humanitarian donations, etc., we also provide money, food, materials, supplies, labor etc. for all ward activities, because the budget cannot cover everything.

The LDS church needs to look at a more inclusive young men program. Still offer support and meeting facilities etc., but not the only thing offered and backed by the Church.

arc | 4:40 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

I am an eagle scout, knowing how much good is done via scouting, supporting the FOS drive is important. 83% or more goes for scounting services. I donated after reading this article on purpose. Most involved don't get paid a dime. The new exec. is better than what we had before. That being said, he is over paid for this area. We have dozens of scouters with more experience and training, education that grew up locally and have served here that would do it for 1/2. We need to pay some of the other full time staff more and Paul less. If he doesn't go for it, than we have our chance.

Donate to FOS, the scouts need it, even if Paul doesn't deserve it.

Determined | 4:41 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

It is absolutely immoral for leaders of a non-profit organization such as Scouting to be compensated in these obscene amounts.

Families struggling to make ends meet on less than 50,000/year give generously to the Scouting program even though they have no sons or daughters in scouting.

And this is how the money is used?

I am appalled and will never support the FOS drive again.

Public Servant | 4:43 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

One thing is clear, BSA is more similar to a for-profit business. Many employees at all levels of government manage comparable budgets, supervise large staffs, raise funds through grants and volunteerism, and put in many extra night and weekend hours for far less salary. Well-educated public servants sacrifice for a higher purpose. BSA is a worthy institute, but perhaps they need to reexamine their corporate structure and purpose.

ann louise | 4:45 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

I am so happy to see the paper run a story like this. Kudos to the DMN.

West Coast | 4:55 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

Let's face it, scouts is embarrassing for the youth (Believe me, it ain't cool to be a boy scout in a modernday high school), an embarrassment to the church (molestation scandals, lawsuits, etc.), and a collossal waste of time for the poor souls who have to babysit a bunch of teenage boys. I learned NOTHING in scouts, I repeat: NOTHING. Unless you consider fire-starting skills, a totin' chip, and tying a bowline an important skill for our youth who confront gangs, pornography, drugs, etc on a daily basis.

To all who claim that the quitting scouts will bring upon us a host of social ills; have you considered what YM/YW could do if funded, staffed, and supported like scouts.

Been there, done that | 4:57 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

I have devoted 20 years of my adult life to Scouting in a variety of positions ranging from Assistant Scoutmaster to (volunteer)Adult Training Coordinator. While some troops considered weekly ward house basketball to be a valid scout activity, I ran successful troops that provided quality experiences for boys and helped produce many qualified Eagle scouts. I did it at the sacrifice of my personal time and many thousands of out-of-pocket dollars. And I did it knowing that others at the executive level were getting rich while I was merely fulfilling a calling from my bishop. Fund raising only took time away from running a quality troop. Even parents didn't always do their part. I have no personal regrets, but I stopped donating to Friends of Scouting and The Sustaining Membership Enrollment years ago. I once thought that only the guys in the crystal palace in Texas were profiting , but now we learn that even the local execs are skimming the gravy of this alleged "volunteer" organization. Sorry, but the BSA will never see another dime of my money. Is this how you want your donation dollars spent?

My earlier comment ... | 4:57 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

I made a comment earlier that didn't get posted for some reason, so I'll try to recap what I said. I'm an Eagle Scout and former Scoutmaster with several years experience, and I am somewhat disillusioned by the excessive pay that the top-tier and even mid-level Scout executives seem to be getting. All the services that the council provides we have to pay for anyway, such as merit badge partches, training literature, uniforms, etc. People are nickel and dimed to death, and when FOS time rolls around, they are tricked into thinking they're donating to the boys when instead it's going to pay those ridiculously high salaries for the professional Scouters. Scouting is getting away from its primary focus -- providing fun and educational opportunities for the boys. I never have liked the bureaucracy, the red tape, the forms you have to fill out. Seems like the LDS Church can put some pressure on the Scouts here to either bring the salaries down to a reasonable level, or do their own fundraising work without pressuring the volunteers and boys to do it for them. Any money raised by the boys should stay in their troops.

arc | 5:06 p.m. Nov. 11, 2007

32% comes from FOS 40.5% comes from camping and activity fees.

Where the money goes 3% to Paul. 97% to:

Programs and Services
Maintanence and improvements for 18 camps at 7 facilities
Special programs and activities: Scout-O-Rama, Jamborees, and much more
Professional Scouters to support units, districts and the council
Training for volunteers: Fast Start, Basic and Wood Badge
Training for youth leaders: Silver Moccasin, On-Belay, etc.
Support to chartered organizations
Monthly roundtables and program ideas
Community Service: Scouting for Food, Youth Protection Training, and Drug Awareness
Provide camper insurance at council and district sponsored events
Community Relations
Provide blanket coverage of liability to protect leaders and organizations
Council Shops: Places where leaders can secure Scouting supplies and resource materials
Administrative support for Camporees, Klondike Derbys, and Cuborees

Office Services

National Fees

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