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Published: Tuesday, Oct. 30 2007 12:33 a.m. MDT

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Army Guy

Since when is declaring that Jesus Christ is your personal Savior "picking a fight" with Southern Baptists? And who are they to claim sole ownership of worshipping Jesus Christ? I am very disappointed in some of these so-called "Christian" ministers. If it's voting for the Republican agenda that they are worried about, they should look no further than the state of Utah--when is the last time Utahns voted for a democratic presidential candidate? Truman? That's fifty years of toeing the red party line--shouldn't that be a clue that Mormons and Southern Baptists vote for the same values? Sadly, it looks like that's not the central issue here--they just can't handle the idea that Mormons are Christians--even though the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-Day Saints is called by His name, not by a geographically identified ritual convention. Oh well, all the while we Mormons will continue to worship Jesus Christ, even if Southern Baptists say we don't. And we'll continue to claim divine authority from Christ Himself, even though they make no such claim. And if that's "picking a fight," that's just too bad.

pointless

right on the nose army guy.

Anita Davis

Just a brief comment: It seems to me that we're struggling with a definition problem here. Many Christian faiths define Christianity by their belief in the Bible as the only word of God to men. By that definition, Mormons are not Christians. In the other camp, Mormons, in general, look at the word "Christian" itself, and start thinking and talking about a definition based on belief in Jesus Christ as Savior, which definition we fit very nicely into. Definition problems. Let's not fight over it incessantly. "We believe in . . . Jesus Christ . . . We also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God." While we would be happy if other Christians would use a different word to describe their belief in the Bible as the only scripture, they have chosen the word "Christian". It's an awkward choice. So let's admit that we are not Christians by THEIR definition. That's okay. We do love and worship Jesus Christ as the son of God, our redeemer, resurrected, and glorified, and we are trying to live to become like Him.

RL

How do the Mormon haters expect to get to heaven???
I am stunned at such bigot attituded's. I live in the South and am ashamed of the Southern so called Christains. To me they need to explain their religion - not Romney.

Blaine Nay

Well said, Amy.

David

It's unfortunate how this article is filled with so much misinformation.

suffered from bigots

The authors need to be accurate in their facts. I personally believe HBO stands for horribly base and offensive and therefore do not subscribe; print articles I have read about their program, big love stated that the producers made an effort to distinguish between the religion practiced by its central characters and the LDS faith. Apparently they have failed to do so. As to setting 1827 as the founding of Mormonism, I guess they are referring to the year the Book of Mormon was published? The church was organized in 1830, but Joseph Smiths first vision was 1820.

I wouldnt be too offended that evangelicals claim Latter Day Saints are not Christian. I have heard evangelicals say the same thing about other protestant denominations. If youre confident in your own faith, you dont need to worry about what others say. The true Christian attitude of the evangelicals is on display every six months as they protest outside LDS General Conference.

As for Noah Crowe studying Mormonism at his bible college; its like studying the virtues of capitalism from Karl Marx, youre not going to get the straight story.

SFC RET DENNIS

ARMY GUY, Well Said

Veuve Cliquot

Either way, it all boils down to "My Jesus is better than your Jesus."

Ruth

Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

To All

Since I've lived here, I've had a number of insults whispered to me. I've had a lot of comments made at me. I've had neighbors that would not let their kids play with mine. I've had neighbors that turn their back so that they do not have to wave. This is only because I'm not LDS. I've given them no reason to dislike me, yet because of my faith, they do. We do a lot of tings as a family, are very religious, and try to be friendly to all our neighbors, even the ones who won't talk to us. I've help a lot of our neighbor with projects (even the ones who won't talk to us). There are some that I work with that call Utah the home of the American Taliban. I love it here.
I read these post and hear a lot of "those guys" tone in them. We all worship the same God but in different ways.
Maybe we ALL need to look at how we think of each other. Maybe we need to follow Jesus' teaching and turn the other cheek. I know I have and it is very sore but I'll continue.

Old Corps Dad

Thank you Ruth for an excellent thought. I would only hope that our Baptist friends might pay a little more heed to the book that we all, LDS and Baptists and other Evangelical Christians hold as the word of God which states in Matt 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Doug

Interestingly enough, the dictionary definition of Christian is:

1. of, pertaining to, or derived from Jesus Christ or His teachings. 2. of, pertaining to, or adhering to the religion based on the teachings of Jesus Christ. 3. of or pertaining to Christians. 4. exhibiting a spirit proper to a follower of Jesus Christ, as in having a loving regard for other persons. 5. a person who believes in Jesus Christ; an adherent of Christianity. 6. a person who exemplifies in his life the teachings of Christ.

I don't see anything there about the Bible as the only scripture. Hmmm....

John in FL.

Well "To All" looks like another "back" job. Come to Florida, we'd love you what ever religion you are. Things are looking up for Gov. Romney here and I am excited! He will make a great president!
Enjoy!

question

So, what ever was wrong with being referred to as 'saints'? Not many years, back, mormons would never have accepted 'Christians'.....so, why the change?

Ben Jones

My brother, a born-again Christian, asked me recently how I could have turned my back on all my parents taught me by becoming a Mormon 25 years ago. I found that that question really strange not only because Mormons do believe in Jesus Christ as their savior but because my parents set an example of community service, kindness to their neighbors, patience for those suffering from handicaps, tolerance for people of all faiths, and respect for people throughout the world including those who were regarded as our country's enemies; which I always understood to be at the heart of Jesus' teaching.

I was visiting my sister's church when I overheard her teacher saying, "Yeah, Mormons are evil." I said, "Excuse me. I'm a Mormon and I don't consider myself evil. Why do you say that?" He rattled off a number of doctrinal differences and then admitted that every Mormon he'd ever known was a good neighbor, honest in their dealings, etc. I wanted to know by what criterion does someone decide whether someone is evil. Didn't Jesus say, "By their fruits you will know" whether people are good or evil?

Lame

How many times will someone quote "judge not lest..." I think its time everyone who quotes that verse look it up for a change! Jesus called Herod a snake, pharisees, Hypocrites and even Peter when he sought to avoid the cross, Satan. You don't have to judge a adulter, liar, thief, murder or non christian, they are already in judgement. (John 3:17-19) This verse doesn't mean we allow any kind of action of others and reckon it as personal choice and its ok. This verse is indicating a "better than thou" attidude, which this whole debate seems to be saturated with it. Not based on my assessment but the doctrine of love (1Cor 13 4-6)

Steve

To Army Guy:

You hit it right on the head! Truer words were never spoken! Well, maybe... "I saw a pillar of light..." ;-)

Legal guy

To "Army Guy":
The President you are referring to once stated "The Constitution is just a piece of paper."

This does not sound like a person who answers to us, as you suggest.

Bob

I have the recent comments with interest. Being LDS, I have no doubt as to whom I worship and follow..that is my Heavenly Father and His Son and my Savior, Jesus Christ. As to who is Christian and who is not, I tend to believe that it is Christ that will make that judgement, not me nor any other man/woman. I believe as Americans we need to choose the best person to serve us as President. We have a responsibility to make an informed decision based on what we know about the candidates. Does religion factor in? Only to the extent as to how the person's faith has affected thier character. For those candidates that declare themselves to be Christian and flaunt the teachings, I think that tells us something of importance about character. This election is critical, I firmly believe. I hope and pray that as Americans of whatever faith, we make wise and prayerful choices.

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