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Angel youngblood-chick abilene t | 9:24 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

A little information on the Rev. Jefferies. He was just hired to a mega church in Dallas from a little church in Wicita Falls. Maybe he feels a need to Glorify his NEW position so the members will think they hired a wise man. He is a bigot and has always been a bigot both in the pulpit and outside it. He is not a large man but on who has a large prception of himself. I am a convert from the Baptist Church who found the LDS faith closer to my own beliefs in Christ and his teachings. I may be one of the reasons Baptist think the Mormons are a cult ,because I questioned thier opinions and moved on to grow in my faith as many others have. With devote Baptist familiy members I am all to familiar with the bulling tactics some chose to use in their churchs. I am not the only one in my family who have chosen to become LDS although I am the only one in Texas. May God see and be the only judge of these misguided Christians who can not see good in all others who worship differently than them.

Fredd | 9:29 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

Let me ask a hypothetical question. If President Hinckley announced he had a revelation from God that it was now the proper time to begin practising polygamy again, and it was required for eternal salvation, how many of you faithful Mormons would practise it? Say a court case said it was legal and perhaps too many sisters wwere marrying outside the church and leaving the faith because of non-mormon husbands. I think this is revelant to this discussion.

To Jay H. | 9:32 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

Trying to connect the mainstream LDS church and Bob Jones is a bit of a stretch don't you think?

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REMAY | 9:35 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

Biggotry has always been a major club used against the LDS church. Nothing different about what this preacher said that what the biggots of Missouri or Illinois were saying about Joseph Smith and the church. They will apparently never learn that it does nothing but make the LDS church stronger. The more biggotry, the faster the church grows. Thanks reverend Jeffress!

Carolina Utahn | 9:42 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

While i do not condone what the minister said, i do condone his right to say it. That is what makes this country so great. To all the Mormons that are worried about what he said- you don't need his approval or anyone else's. So do not worry about it. People are going to say what they want and that is allowed. Many of you complain of his bigotry while your comrades display the same sort of bigotry on these very posts. I am not LDS but that is not why i will NEVER vote for Romney. I believe that he lacks a backbone. His healthcare policy in particular, is very two-sided.

Robin D | 9:55 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

Jay H.
Come on, you've got to be kidding me. Comparing Warren Jeffs group to the LDS Church. Yes I guess there are some similarities...both have large memberships in Utah and both include the letters "LDS". I'm sure you meant to say Jonestown and the RFLDS Church have the "same controlling techiques" but even that would be a stretch. Yes, hometeaching and tithing are certainly precursors to Jonestown like behavior. We'd better alert the folks in Jackson County Missouri for this upcoming Jonestown like tragedy. Get your head out of those so called social scientists journals and start living in the real world.

pointless | 10:06 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

Fredd, maybe you'd care to explain how your question
is "revelant" [I believe you meant relevant, but maybe what you meant was a thinly veiled attempt at baiting] to this discussion?

Michael Stapley | 10:09 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

I don't understand the intellect of some of those posting responses to this article. Cult has been clearly defined. The LDS's simple belief, love and faith in Christ has been documented. What is left to say. Sure, Rev Jeffress is a member of a cult as previously defined. So are LDS members. Both parties believe in Christ and have membership in organizations that promote Christen beliefs. The idle charter is the continuation of comments that attempt to discredit these to basic principles and beliefs. What adds to the stability and longevity of our great nation? Principles such as love and genuine concern for our fellow man, honesty, respect, and building stronger generations by teaching our offspring to respect the rights and blessings that come from living in this great nation. The need to tear down the belief structure of another should not be found in the character of anyone who aligns themselves with the God given rights of all free people living in this country. One would certainly wonder who is a practicing Christen and who is not as one reads through these postings.

angel Y-C Abilene texas | 10:14 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

Honey let me clue you in Mitt is not the president of the church and he will not be the one makeing religious decisions for us. He will however if elected be the one who will try to make the right decisions for this country and her citizens period. As to haveing Husbands and wives who are not Lds I am married to a non practiceing Baptist we work through our faith chooses to remain married 20+ years and agreed to raise our 4 boys as Lds and then let them decide when they obtained to age of knowledge where they felt most at home in a church. It works well as both of us believe in Jesus Christ.The discussion was about dengerating one Church in another not on who will deside America's belif system.so Fredd get a grip. You may be my next neighbor and actually like me.Peace friend Angel. P.S. call a local Lds church and ask for someone to talk with so you will know who recieves God's messages for us.

Robin D. | 10:17 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

Thank you Michael! Amen.

Amused | 10:21 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

I find it interesting to hear a so-called "man of God" preaching intolerance and ignorance. I think his motives are more along the lines of saving his livelihood by any means necessary.

Fredd | 10:24 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

Pointless,
Sorry for the misspell. I guess it seems like baiting if you think the answer would somehow be negative. My point is: If a man told you to do something that you vilify other LDS sects for doing, would you do it? I think that would really be a piece of information that could be used to evaluate whether the LDS church is a cult. I don't believe its a cult by the way. I believe though that the church attempts to exert an extraordinary amount of control over its members. I married a woman whose family was LDS and i speak of personal experience being harassed by visiting teachers/home teachers etc. I had one home teacher who I told was he was impacting my marriage tell me it was his duty to contact my wife. I also had an LDS friend and my LDS sister-in-law tell me they were asked this question in about 1995 as a home teaching topic. My SIL's response was she didn't have a strong enough testimony. I don't like the LDS church. I like the LDS people just fine.

A Christian | 10:26 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

You go Mitt! Must be threatening a lot of people by just a pure way of life to get this kind reaction from a preacher.
Keep going, you have our vote!

Anonymous | 10:31 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

To Tenner | 9:15
Yes, your elder Holland officially mocked the beliefs of a number of Christian churches by attacking their beliefs in the Trinitarian doctrine. Clearly, he does not understand the doctrine, so he attacks it and condemns it, and makes the entire audience laugh at the beliefs of another faith. So this is the double standard we can expect from Mitt? When your leaders do it, it is OK; but when an Evangelical leader does it, it is bigotry??

fredd | 10:32 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

Angel,
I'm a catholic married to a non practising LDS woman. I've attended countless LDS services while living in Utah to support my in-laws. I was harassed repeatedly when first married. I actually contacted the local ward and told them to stop calling. I was told to have my wife have her name removed from the rolls of the church. We've never had a priest or a nun come to our door uninvited or otherwise. I would love to be your neighbor. I loved living in Utah. You know what's funny? All the time I lived in Utah the church never contacted me or my family in an official capacity. Only when living outside Utah. So I do apologize to all who are offended I don't believe or like the LDS church. I love the LDS people I know on a personal level.

A TRUE Christian (not a fake one | 10:39 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

The LDS Church is a cult in the sense that it tries to control the members to an astonishing degree. the Home teaching program and the regular interviews are all ways to "watch over the flock" that are just like what we see in cults like Jonestown. It really amounts to an ongoing Inquisition whereby the Church continually monitors its members and their beliefs and takes "loving" action to correct those who are beginning to stray.

Anonymous | 10:49 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

The Mormon Elder Holland owes an official apology to all the Trinitarian sects he offended!

ernie | 10:51 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

to fredd
First that will NEVER happen. Even nations of the earth where polgamy is allowed, a person cannot become a member of the Church if they particpate in polygamy. If a member of the church enters into polygamy they will be excumicated from the Church. We believe that Jesus Christ Himself directs the Church through His chosen servents, as He did when He was on the earth. he directed His Church through apostles and prophets that HE Called, we believe He does the same today. Wilford woodruff was instructed by Him that polygamy would never be authorized again. But even it was we are free to make our own desions about what we do. We do not follow blindly, I for one must be converted to a principle before I will accept it. Each individual is encouraged to search for the truth for ourselves and to accept it where ever it is found. good question!! I hope I have cleard it up.

Thought | 10:59 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

I define the term "Good Person" to mean, someone who helps others, is charitable, and believes in the LDS faith. Therefore Mr. Jeffress isn't a good person. If someone isn't a good person, I don't believe what they say. Therefore I don't believe Mr. Jeffress.....This line of reasoning would follow a, "do unto others as they have done unto you principle" but unfortunately it's "do unto others as you'd have done unto you" so I say, Mr. Jeffress is entitled to his opinion and I hope he'll take the opportunity to learn more about the LDS faith.

Andy | 11:08 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

Mitt Romney is a nice guy but he isn't going to be the President Of the United States. There is just too much opposition to Mormonism among a large chunck of the Republican Base. If the Republicans are dumb enough to nominate him, Hillary will be laughing all the way to the White House. No doubt about it. Unfortnately, for the Republicans, their savior in 08 is Gulliani, the three times divorcd, gay loving, pro choice adulterer.

Arthur Davidson | 11:13 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

It is up to us to be dignified and to turn the other cheek. That is what our savior would do.

Some people hate us because we do not subscribe to the false doctrine of the Trinity, which does not appear in the Bible. It is the direct result of an attempt to compromise with Greek philosophy, resulting in a concept of God that is indistinguishable from the idolatrous goddess Ashtoreth. Jesus subordinated his will to his Father's will. He prayed to his Father on several occasions, and God acknowledged Jesus as his son at Jesus' baptism. Stephen the martyr saw Jesus standing at the right hand of God.

Others hate us because we're bad for business. Jesus was hated because he didn't accept the restrictions of the Talmud and he was bad for business.

The last big reason that people hate us is that they don't want to be reminded that they can't do whatever they want and still go to heaven if they've given the proper lip service, "accepting" Jesus as their savior and continuing to do their favorite sins. Apparently we are not allowed to teach that we need to abandon our sins.

Reality | 11:18 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

I do not think Mitt Romney can be elected president of the United States. But I do believe his running may be a service to thinking people and to followers of the Mormon faith. His running is spot lighting the Mormon Church and maybe enough public interest in the truth will compel the LDS authorities to open the vaults of secretcy of the church and reveal the truth. How wonderful it would be to know a new Fawn M.Brodie "No man knows my histor" to come to our rescure. I am sure it would help the unsung heros of Utah: Joe Hill and Gerald Sanders rest easier.

the next prez | 11:39 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

andy- unfortunately you are right-on -

i'm inactive lds married to born again and her problem with mitt is he is mormon! she says otherwise but that is balony!

Dee | 11:39 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

Mr. Jeffress is to christianity, as terrorists are to the muslim religion. But thank God that we live in a country that someone can make a comment about a topic they know nothing about.

Rachel | 11:39 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

"you can't have your cake and eat it too"??? What are you talking about? The flds "church," "cult," don't care what you call it, is hardly a comparison. If you think so, you don't have your facts about either church straight. Everyone I know, including my ex-husband, who hates mormons, don't have actual facts about it... just a bunch of hate and misinformation they've been taught at their so called Christian church, and from their equally misinformed parents.

Bryce | 11:41 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

Rev. Jeffress is misinformed. Mosiah 3:17 clearly states Mormons' belief in Christ: "And moreover, I say unto you, that there shall be no other name given nor any other way nor means whereby salvation can come unto the children of men, only in and through the name of Christ, the Lord Omnipotent."

double standard | 11:41 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

Good old Rev Jefferies, and guys like Rev Keller have been schooled by fellow Baptist pastors with years of reformed cultist like tactics that do teach bigotry. They will more then likely die with their views. What I find indifferent is that one can label this free speech, if I sad blacks only eat watermelons and chicken, or say something along the lines of Al Campanis former LA dodgers manager one would be seen as a bigot.

BTG | 11:47 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

As someone noted above, Joseph Smith himself declared that Mormons are not Christians (he even called Christians "an abomination unto God!"). Latter Day Saints testify that what Joseph Smith said is true ... so why are so many today denying Smith's testimony? Beyond that, the (contemporary, of the last few decades) Mormon Church is the only polytheistic religion in history to proclaim itself a Christian faith (Christianity, of course, is monotheistic). Joseph Smith is certainly turning over in his grave.

Fredd | 11:49 a.m. Oct. 20, 2007

Ernie,
thanks for the answer. But let me clarify, if your prophet told God told him it was time to practise this proncipli again it would not be a valid revelation? I mean God told Josph Smith to practise it then told Wilford Woodruff not to. Can't he/she reverse themselves again? I thought, and I don't know this, that Woodruff's proclomation just said it wasn't to be practised "at this time"? That leaves it open to be practised again doesn't it? And just so no one thinks I'm being disingenuous (sp) I would think that practising polygamy by a modern LDS person just because the prophet says its okay would be a huge negative reflect, FOR ME, on the church.

Information | 12:01 p.m. Oct. 20, 2007

The problem that many Christians face, is that of mis-information. There are a number of anti-mormon clearing houses "in business" today, that do nothing more than fabricate outlandish allegations about the Mormons. In order pay their bills, these clearing houses must create sensational claims, so that people will want to buy their rag. Protestant Christianity has long been suspicious that everything is of the devil, from Santa Clause to Harry Potter. These anti-Mormon clearing houses cater to the fears of such people. These writers make their living by stirring the pot, while fearful Christians have their suspicions satisfied that the devil reigns supreme, irregardless of the truth. In the age information, there is sure lots of mis-information. Bottom line, these people are not going away anytime soon, so worship God according to the dictates of your own conscience.

R. James | 12:07 p.m. Oct. 20, 2007

When elected, I personally believe Mitt Romney will become one of the best presidents our country has ever had in the last 100 years.

Regarding Rev. Jefferies unschooled comments:

1. It's hard to hit a bullseye with a crooked arrow.

2. The Mission Statement for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is "To invite all to come unto Christ." Da?

3. The name of the church in which Mitt Rommney belongs is the "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" ... there is no Mormon Church, there never has been. If Rev. Jefferies church is Christ's church why doesn't he name it after Christ rather than calling it the Baptist Church?????

4. Father forgive Rev. Jefferies for him knows not what he says is false and full of hate not christain love. God is love not hate ... wow, what pastor Rev. Jefferies is turn out to be. May God bless him to see the light in to those who are not Baptists.

Christians Definitions | 12:08 p.m. Oct. 20, 2007

Mormons aren't Christian.

Catholic's aren't either.

They get to difine who is Cristian.

Isn't this sorta weird???

Hopeful | 12:18 p.m. Oct. 20, 2007

It's sad that someone so prominent is so uneducated on the LDS church's beliefs. It's even more sad that he chooses to share his lack of understanding with his entire congregation and thousands, perhaps millions of others.

Bedford Texas | 12:32 p.m. Oct. 20, 2007

In Texas, weï¿½re used to these types of comments from some religious leaders. One news stations in the DFW area called church headquarters asking for comment about this ministerï¿½s remarks. For some reason the Church didnï¿½t respond - which would have been appreciated by us. Being in the minority in Bible belt, we try to live our lives to be an example of our faith in the Savior. Some commented here with demeaning comments (like this Baptist minister did here) we chose not to do that. It serves no good purpose. We hope to change minds and hearts by living what we believe ort acting like we are above anyone else. We are involved in our communities and are known for how we live and what we do for others. I was raised Southern Baptist and went through hell from my family and their minister to join the Church. By living what I know to be the truth many of my Baptist family have come to say that "yes your faith IS Christian" The have defended and stood up for the Church to their ministers and those who chose to be thoughtless and mean. I love them for it.

Dear True Christian | 12:49 p.m. Oct. 20, 2007

Your statements show your religious childishness in your statements because you simply do not, via the Spirit, understand how home teachng works. You sound like a disaffected LDS who is not scripturally sound in the doctrine or someone from the outside always determing how others beliefs should be interpreted.

The Savior chose 70 men to go out and preach then come back and report. That is how you discover if things are going right or if they are going wrong.

Personal Preisthood Interviews (to you reporting) on home teachng when done properly is faith building and helps all involved. Don't blather about what you do no understand.

Niet32 | 1:00 p.m. Oct. 20, 2007

Mitt can be elected and is on track to do so.

You who say a mormon will never be elected need to do your research.

A mormon is more likely than a minority or woman to be elected (according to research).

This press isn't bad though. Ever since the Church cut advertising we can take all the awareness generating press we can take.

Cirrus | 1:08 p.m. Oct. 20, 2007

As much as the statements of this Baptist minister are unfair, neither do the Mormons have clean hands in denigrating other religions.

For example, some Mormons still consider the Roman Catholic Church the great and abominable church. Until fairly recently Mormons were explicitly taught that protestant ministers/priests were on Satan's payroll, and that teaching has never been rescinded. Mormons are the most aggressive religion with regard to proselytizing, soliciting people on the street, and knocking on people's doors mostly without invitation and informing them that "Mormons have the only "true" church". If you do not consider that invasive and obnoxious consider if the Catholics were doing the same to your household. Let us not forget that non-Mormons are addressed as "Gentiles", hardly a compliment in that context.

In conclusion, there is long standing suspicion and mutual mistrust between Mormons and some other Christian churches. Mitt Romney's candidacy only brings it to the surface.

RE: True Christian | 1:17 p.m. Oct. 20, 2007

Really?

Jonestown? Jim Jones was a sick, mass murder.

I have known many "Born - agains". Have been to services, funerals and weddings.

Talk about a cult. They are all over each other, loving them in, invading their every act.

How many of their ministers are "telling" them how to vote, something the LDS has never done while around me?

Go back to your true "Christianity". I love my Lord, and "My" brother Jesus just the way they are.

Hey, answer this though... If I go to a church named after Christ, have many statues and pictures of him in the house, read scriptures of him every night, Sundays I take the sacrement to remember him, and have his spirit allways be with me, end all of my parayers in his name, lead a life that invites his spirit into my life...

Why again is it that you can self righteously tell me I am not cristian, and keep my four year old daughter out of a christian pre-K program, and yet you accept children of atheist parents? How can you say I'm not christian and after doing that to my daughter and me, then call yourself a christian?

Anonymous | 1:29 p.m. Oct. 20, 2007

Craig | 11:09 a.m.
I'm confident Rev. Jeffress didn't mean any harm, either. He was not "mocking" any Mormons. He simply repeated certain teachings and creeds on Christianity and used Mormons own doctrines and interpretations to explain why his church has a different understanding than the Mormons do. Just because Mormons get offended, does not mean he is a bad person. -- Baloney! Elder Hollands talk was an explicit attack against the Trinitarian faith and tradition, one that has been around almost 10 times longer than the Mormon faith. You Mormons have such a double standard it is astonishing. You can dish it out, but you can't take it. Holland's sermon was absolutely NOT given as "an attempt to defend our faith a clarify our doctrines." How could it be? Nobody has ever accused Mormons of being Trinitarians!

Vegas Ed | 1:35 p.m. Oct. 20, 2007

How does anyone tell someone else they aren't Christian?

l | 1:45 p.m. Oct. 20, 2007

Who cares? I've never heard of Rev. Jeffress before, and I doubt I'll ever see his name in print again.

On Elder Holland's talk, he taught something that's in the bible, but didn't say that X church is evil because they don't believe the same we that we do. He taught doctrine, and leaves it up to others to research and see if what he taught matches up with what they're being taught by others.

You also don't see in our sacrament meetings a preacher getting up and telling you who to vote for or not vote for in an election. Of course, there may be some crazy old lady that says something about how she supports a certain candidate, but a random member getting up and saying something is different from one of the church leaders doing the same.

Something else to consider is that is many of the Christian churches, ministers are paid, and need to perform by getting people out to church and getting them excited in order to keep their jobs. Mixing politics in with preaching is a sure way to do that.

Anonymous | 1:45 p.m. Oct. 20, 2007

To me it sounds like Mr. Jeffress is either trying to get publicity or he is afraid of Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints. He is afraid that calling Mitt Romney a Christian will give the church legitimacy.

True Christian | 1:52 p.m. Oct. 20, 2007

RE: True Christian | 1:17 p.m.

Because your definition of Christian is distorted in a self-serving way, just as all the doctrines and history of the Mormon Church are. What it means to be a Christian comes from the Christian Tradition, not from a silly dictionary, nor from an individual judgement you make about others. Being Christian does not mean a person is "nice" - it means they are part of the communion with the Father, Son and Spirit. That is not possible when you Mormons do not believe in that essential Trinitarian communion. Hence, you are by your own doctrines, NOT Christian. Sure, there are some "nice" Mormons (you don't seem like one of them), but that is not the point. The Rev. Jeffress was not "being mean" when he said what he said. He was simply stating an axiomatic fact that necessarily follows from the Christian tradition. It is the Mormons who are playing word games and being deceptive in order to try and be legitimate instead of a "cult" (yes, in the Jonestown sense).

Kate | 1:55 p.m. Oct. 20, 2007

Yes Rev. Jeffress DID mean harm. Don't fool yourself.

He is being hateful and needs to step off his high horse.

Anonymous | 2:02 p.m. Oct. 20, 2007

To Vegas Ed | 1:35 p.m.

Simple. Like This: Mormons are not Christians. Their theology is an entirely different theology than what the Christian Theology has been for 2,000 years, and it is entirely different than the Theology contained in the Bible. Therefore, the Mormons' Jesus is not the same Jesus that Paul preached, nor even the same Jesus that Jesus WAS (historically). Not the same Jesus = Not the same Christ = NOT Christian.

John | 2:08 p.m. Oct. 20, 2007

I just wasted my time reading all the articles that have been published in this discussion. The only relevant thing is that the constitution forbids ANY religous requirements to be President, either postive or negative ( see article 6 ). For everyone who felt compelled to speak on this issue remember the old adage of leading a horse to water. Just be sure you faith and conscience are clear and let everyone else silently do the same thing and don't let yourself be dragged into discussions to which there is no discernable answer other than throught the inspiration that comes from above.

Another Convert | 2:13 p.m. Oct. 20, 2007

I grew up Methodist and my wife was Catholic before we joined the LDS church. I've always appreciated the LDS church's respect and acceptance of other churches and beliefs--I have never heard an LDS church leader criticize another church. On the other hand, I don't understand why others are so critical of our church. The most anti-LDS sentiment we experienced was when we lived in Utah--yet our non-LDS neighbors, often outspoken about the church, raved about the quality of life there. I agree that in the future, we should simply provide a link to Elder Holland's rationale explanation--there was simply a clear explanation.

to anonymous | 2:17 p.m. Oct. 20, 2007

You are absolutely correct, the doctrine of the Trinity has been around since 325 A.D. when the council of Nicea met to iron out the problems both political and religious within the Roman Empire. Unfortunately it post dates the time of Jesus and so is not authoritive Christian Statements since those men who promulgated it never claimed to have revelation from Diety to support their creed.

Reformed Benedictine | 2:18 p.m. Oct. 20, 2007

To l | 1:45 p.m.

I have been a member of the LDS Church for only about 5 years. Prior to that I was of another faith (Trinitarian in doctrine). I must confess to being bothered by Holland's talk. It sure seemed like an offensive attack on the faith of others, many of whom I still associate with and love. Those who heard it (because I am LDS) were offended. But I also notice that in almost every Sunday School class or Priesthood meeting each week, someone makes an attacking comment about another faith. It is as if we can't believe our Church is true without attacking other Churches and beliefs. I haven't seen how all wards work, but it sure seems like that attitude is Churchwide, not just here and there.

What is Christianity | 2:26 p.m. Oct. 20, 2007

I have records from my ancestors Baptist church, which they were charter members of in Elizabeth Town Kentucky, that clearly records how Baptists themselves would fight "in church" over doctrine. The "Christian Church", which was not a Baptist church, shared the same building the original Baptist congregation had built there. At times fights (punching and screaming kind) would break out between the sects. This also proves that there was much "confusion among the sects" in early America as the prophet Joseph said. So, this "Christian Church", or the general term of "Christian" used to describe the various religions of the day, may be what the Prophet Joseph Smith was referring to as well as the way in which other sects choose to harrass people of other faiths and doctrines. If that is the case, than the Prophet Joseph Smith spoke correctly "we are not Christians", if that is the kind of Christianity that was practiced at the time and what people would have deemed "Christian". Also, the book of Mormon speaks of those who followed Christ as "Christians", but I believe that simply is a general translation that would mean "follower of Christ" NOT a monothiestic religion.

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