Comments about ‘Procter & Gamble Co. picks Box Elder’
Groundbreaking of paper-product plant expected in early '08
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Being from Box Elder County, I guess that is good, but it would be nice if it were a company that offered more white collar work. We already have Malt-O-Meal, Lazyboy, AutoLiv, Nucore Steel, and Liberty Foods. I'd like to see a company that recruited college graduates to move to the area.
Looks like our Tremonton community and surrounding area will continue to grow and its small town flavor that so many of us have enjoyed over the years will continue to shrink.
I am not sure in the end it is what the Iowa String needs or wants..."greenfield" I think not. Big ugly plant I think so.
Good point Stan. Don't forget the Wal-Mart distribution center and Tartar Gate manufacturing facility.
The article says average wage is approximately $21,000 in Box Elder County but they don't include the fact that many women stay at home in Box Elder. Actually census data lists the average household income as $48,000. For example, ATK (Thiokol) pays $60,000 to $90,000 per year. These jobs will actually lower average household income in the area.
They are building here because wages are low and they can get a subsidy of $85 million. It is ironic that the Box Elder School District has put forth a $70 million election bond and the new plant will get property tax credits leaving residents to bear the burden of new school construction.
I predict that illegal aliens and meth addicts will be the majority of their employees, probably living in the Malad area.
It never ceases to amaze me how naive and greedy rural communities' politicians are-- willing to sacrifice their true quality of life for a few jobs and the promise of more tax dollars. Juab County political yokels bought into a new "odorless" rendering plant and now regret it. Box Elder County will soon feel the same way. Can you smell the pollution already? Paper product manufacturing is not a clean industry, no matter how they promote it. Industrial wasteland is not my idea of progress.
makes no sence
Dexter is right. The plant will become a magnet for illegal aliens. Bienvenidos todos
As a native former Utahn, I was contmplating moving back to that area when I retired to enjoy its rural beauty.
No thanks. I've changed my mind. I've already got pollution, meth labs, and illegals where I am.
A note to Charles, P&G will not be producing paper at this plant. Rolls will be brought in on rail cars and proceesed from there.
Yeah right. A rose by any other name....
"Quality of Life" doesn't mean a thing if you haven't a job.
Also, "median income" is not the same as "average income". Median in the context of this story means that half of the working population earns below $21,000, while half earn more than $21,000. If you have five people, two make $100,000/year, two make $15,000/year, and one makes $21,000/per, then the median income is $21,000/year and the average income is $50,200/year.
Can you tell me if median income includes retirees living on social security? Box Elder County has 80% more residents 65 years or older then the State average. Also, what about housewives who work at a part time job? Doesnt that affect the median income? Include the huge amount of migrant farm workers from Mexico that work in Box Elder County and all the fast food jobs. Household income in Box Elder County is higher then the rest of the State at $48,000 according to 2004 census data.
Our state Government in bed with Tax right-offs!
Don't you wish that you average Joe Citizen could have tax breaks like those that are given by State Leaders?
Amazing to me that we have a Voucher System argument going on in this State and dividing citizens and then property taxes going up almost everywhere, yet when it comes to giving back to the people the State would rather give to an outsider in the form of tax breaks. Would that we were so lucky to have OUR OWN tax breaks.
Utah what a goofy State now! Must be those Mormons...might as well blame them,,,everyone else does...
"Have a Good Day Neighbors" "Welcome to Utah"
give us your hungry, your poor, and we will still see to it that they remain hungry and poor."
I need a job...
Is working at the P&G plant manufacturing toilet paper considered a career that requires a college education, or at least a high school diploma or isnt it just a dead end job?
not a meth addict or illegal i just need a job. to put food on the table.
Listen to yourselves. Seems like I heard comments similar to these when Nucor came to BE County. Nucor is still there and still producing jobs.
Meth addicts probably will be screened through drug testing, if P&G follows national trend for employers.
Illegals are a problem everywhere. P&G may add to the issue, but by no means will it be the cause of the influx. Fast food places seem to be the largest magnet in BE County, according so some writers.
I wish BE County were the way it was when I grew up there. It isn't and won't ever be. Options are few: Get over it, get out of it, or be miserable in it.
Dunno--You can thank the illegal aliens for making less than you would once you find one...
If you want a career, I would suggest you need an education more than a job.
is there a link where I can apply for a job?
If you don't live in Box Elder County anymore you may not realize that the area from Ogden to Malad is becoming known for its huge problems with meth. Meth only stays in a users system for three days at the most. Someone gets fired from Lazyboy, they wait until they are clean and get a job at Wal-Mart DC then when fired from there they can move to the new Nucor Building System Plant or the new P&G plant.
Concerning the new Nucor plant, I haven't heard of any openings but supposedly all high level positions are filled. They brought employees from their plants in other states and hired from the Vulcraft plant where they made similar wages. Sure there will be many labor positions available but no one needs to even graduate high school for those postitions.
soon all the beautiful fruit orchards will be gone in that area.
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