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Al Gore, United Nations share Peace Prize for climate work
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The not-so-noble part of me is glad to hear this because watching the Dittoheads go apoplectic in this comment thread will provide me with at least a couple of days' worth of amusement...
3 seconds to right-wing freakout... 2.... and... GO!
Great job, and nice recognition by the Norwegian Nobel Committee.
The question is: what can we do to minimize the human impact? Don't Mormons teach something about "replentish the earth?"
I have yet to see the LDS hierachy take a stand or issue a statement. Aren't they "stewards" of this world?
As for the Nobel Peace Price, ALL credibitly is now shot. You could have given that thing to any random schmo on any street corner and they would have been more deserving. Gore is the biggest fraud of the 21st century
The world may have a trend of warming slightly, but this fairy tale that man is the cause of it makes me want to hurl. Wake up people
I don't think the LDS church needs to take an official stance on global warming. The doctrines about stewardship are well established. LDS people have always been encouraged to be good stewards. They are also encouraged to do all things in wisdom and order. That should be enough to govern their actions.
Also, Mo-Town, there is a lot of scientific evidence about global warming. If you want to make an argument against Gore, you need to recognize this fact. However, the real debate is how much of it is human caused (and this, I think, is where Gore overstates himself and the state of the evidence). For instance, a recent Duke research publication states that between 10%-30% of variation in earth tempratures over the last decade are due to solar activity (mostly a decrease in sunspots). This is reflected in comparable global warming on Mars.
Do I think we need to pay attention to the environment and possible human contributions to global warming? Absolutely. However, I think Mr. Gore overstates himself. I am personally suspicious of his motives, but I cannot read his mind, so I will refrain from speculation
Really. I'm super serial!
That said, this award is a total joke. Nobel PEACE prize? What does Al Gore's action on global warming have to do with peace? Nothing at all. Climate change action is a worthy cause, but it has absolutely zero to do with promoting peace, war, fighting, etc. By giving it to a politician who wants to act on climate change, they have dishonored the memories of past winners who have truly promoted PEACE (supposedly the subject of the award). People like Nelson Mandela, the Dalai Lama, Desmond Tutu, and Mother Teresa. Grouping Al Gore in with them is an insult to that group.
Maybe Al Gore should win an award for his efforts, but it should be an award that's actually relevant to what he's trying to do.
What nobody on the Left mentions, is that for every scientist that credits the problem, there's another scientist who fails to credit any problem at all. We have zilch proof that man is responsible in any way whatsoever, and we have to start dispelling the myth, or else Gore will contnue on with this time and resource-wasting charade
And I love the point Dennis made, that just because Rush Limbaugh says something, it's all of a sudden not true. As if everything Limbaugh says is automatically garbage. Evidence why, Dennis. We need evidence why
Go Bronco Mendenhall for president
Jimmy Carter and Kofi Annan very much deserved the Peace Prize. They were on task, and they have results to show.
Not so Al Gore, keep hugging trees though, maybe they'll come up with a prize for that.
Regardless of how convinced you are of the extent of human-caused global warming, I don't see how one can fairly call Al Gore anything but a propagandist. He constantly touts the "consensus" on global warming, and demonizes dissenters from the most alarmist scenarios -- but then he makes a movie like "An Inconvenient Truth" which presents unsubstantiated, extreme scenarios as established fact. He thus attempts to confuse his audience into confusing his extreme scenarios with the actual scientific "consensus," which is much less sensationalistic.
Examples include the tying of Hurricane Katrina to global warming, the idea that polar bears face a serious threat from sea ice, and the idea that there is a realistic possibility of a 20-foot rise in sea level as a result of manmade global warming. Those scenarios are certainly well outside the global-warming "consensus," but Al won't tell you that.
I'm sure you will put it in a prominent location in your home and add a couple of coal fired produced electric spot lights to highlight your accomplishment. Read this month's National Geographic, there is a whole lot more at play here than just man. The man found under the receding Italian Galcier wasn't put there during a cooling cycle, could it possibly be that there was a previous global warming period before?? Sure, we're a very minor contributor, but tilt, orbit, the sun play a much more significant role.
Billary, can you say, "Ross Perot"?
Al, can you say, "Vince Foster"?
Now that is a Global Warning that's not imagined.
There are also scientists around the world who seriously question the modules used to proclaim global warming. It is NOT universally and unequivically accepted as fact in the scientific community. Those yelling CRISIS are trying to drown out the naysayers, but the volume doesn't make their conclusion any more correct than the name calling in this forum. In time it MAY be borne out, but the global cooling crisis of the 70's seems to have...cooled a bit? The panic mongers have more on their agenda than global environment and the pre-rush to certainty here fosters that agenda, $$$.
Giving Al Gore the Nobel for his "environmental" scare tactics is as viable as giving to it him for his self proclaimed invention of the internet.
And, YES... we do have the burden to protect this planet, but forcing feeding biased data down the public throat is not the best approach.
Those of you ready to call me names, go for it.
GOOD ONE MO-TOWN!
Because none of it is going to have the slightest effect on anything.
Hillary Clinton is going to be elected in 2008. (Sorry, Republicans -- as Patton said, Americans will not tolerate a loser, and not winning a war decisively in four years or less gets counted as a loss.) She will sign some version of the Kyoto accords requiring the U.S. to reduce CO2 emissions to 1990 levels, or something. And then year after year, not only will we fail to reduce CO2 emissions, they'll continue to increase despite all we can do. (That's exactly what's happened in the European countries that *did* adopt the orignal Kyoto protocols.)
The predictions of the global-warming theorists may be borne out, and the temperature will tick up by a degree over the next century -- or it will be discovered that they did their sums wrong, and it won't get any warmer. In any event, nothing that we do will have any effect on anything -- because China and India will continue to grow (and belch out CO2) and dwarf whatever emission reductions we manage to eke out.
If lies, propaganda, and self-serving are noble enough for a Nobel it should go to Kim Jong Il who is a better at all three than Gore.
A British High Court Judge has ruled that Gore's film is deceptive and political. It may be shown to students, but teachers must inform students that the film is one-sided and not scientific. The teacher must also stress eleven major inaccuuracies presented by Gore.
But you can't blame Gore for laughing all the way to the bank. Liberals, both Democrat and Republican, are very skilled at self-deception so leaders like Gore and Bush take advantage of it. What else is new?
Mark Whitney
Sandy
"Jimmy Carter and Kofi Annan very much deserved the Peace Prize. They were on task, and they have results to show."
That's a funny one. Kofi Annan is personally responsible for the atrocious murder of as many as a million Rwandan Tutsis. Yeah, he was on task and has as results buckets of blood and billions of embezzled dollars from the "Oil for Food" program.
Carter was a puppet who instituted the Panamal Canal givaway and weakened our internal security by stripping this country of its traditional security institutions. At least we can say that Gore is in appropriate company.
Mark Whitney
Sandy
It's hard for me to take it seriously when I remember back in elementary school being truly worried that another "Ice Age" was coming and we were probably all going to die from it. I think we would have welcomed Global Warming back then!
Knowing now how incredibly wrong the so called "experts" were about the Ice Age just 30 year ago, I have a hard time swallowing their latest propaganda.
Of course a "Liberal" is more likely to win the prize than a "Consevative". By their very definition a Conservative disqualifies themsevles from consideration and a Liberal spends their lives earning the prize.
What does knowing about Global Warming have to do with peace? If the situation gets much worse, cyclical or not, there will be widespread unrest. Fighting for resouces that will become more scarce. Education helps to prevent scarcity which would help prevent panic and violence
The world population was much lower, the rain forest intact, very little industry, and virtually no carbon producing vehicles. How can this be? Everything that Al Gore claims causes global warming was not even taking place. Please explain if you can.
Oh, one more thing. NASA provided the information about the warmest years in history. Of couse they had to recently revise their data after a private individual found an error in their calculations. Hard to believe since global warming supports seem to believe science is never wrong. Funny how I could not pass along my science text books to my kids to use in school. Turns out that they no longer were accurate after only 10 years.
Please educate us all on the 1930s please.
Here are a couple of famous Al Gore quips:
Gore and the Internet
"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet" Gore said when asked to cite accomplishments that separate him from another Democratic presidential hopeful, former Sen. Bill Bradley of New Jersey, during an interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN on March 9, 1999.
Gore supported technological advances related to the advancement of the Internet, but to say that HE took the initiative in creating the Internet is a bit much.
Let's play "Insult the Host"
Gore sometimes shows publicly that he lacks Clinton's finesse. Take a reception in Los Angeles last month. It was Gore's moment to shine before donors who ponied up $2.8 million. But he wound up egg-faced when he compared electing a Republican as president to rejecting an Oscar-winning team in favor of the producers of the Hollywood clunker ''Howard the Duck.'' One of the evening's hosts, Jeffrey Katzenberg, was a driving force behind ''Howard the Duck.'' The crowd tittered.
Gore once proclaimed:
I'm sure that a number of those venting against Gore, Carter, Clinton, Liberals, Bogey Men, moose and pink ribbons are getting tremendous satisfaction from name-calling, just as they did last year when they were nine-year-olds. But the fact is that they are irrelevant. The world and the nation will move on, with them or without them.
Wonderful. Only 102 years to go!
"...the most threatening situation we have found ourselves in in American history."
Right. 10,000 Soviet nukes pointed at us, the Pacific Fleet sunk and German U-boats enjoying a "Happy Time" off the East Coast, the Confederate Army shelling the outskirts of Washington, the British burning Washington, the British conquering New York, the Indians dang near annihilating the Jamestown settlement altogether -- all minor inconveniences compared to the awful threat of not having turned a ramshackle Arab nation into Switzerland in four years or less.
Global environment is important enough on it's own merits that it deserves honest representation and not the slight of hand proffered by the Global Warming alarmists. With less grandstanding and ambulance chasing and a little credence given to all scientific findings, perhaps people from a greater demographic could be enlisted into a reasonable, unified effort to benefit our planet.
Resistance to the current forced Global Warming PC does not make a person anti environment. It just might mean one is tired of being force fed incomplete data for an argualbly flawed political agenda.
You obviously don't want to admit you may be wrong in face of the mounting evidence to the contrary.
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May be myth but I beleive Stalin, and tooki williams also were offered prize. They are evil people so prize don't mean much.