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Joe Cannon: Ancient Greece offers modern-day lesson
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And Victor Hansen has had many great observations, some quite controversial, to include on the subject of immigration.
What should be discussed is the concept of Americanism (term to reference our Western, Greek culture - evidenced in our system of government and expectation) and our current policies.
How we devolved so much into materialism that our policies of unlimited debt are a problem? What about our foreign policy: perceived as spreading democracy though in a very undemocratic manner. Many countries with a similar western civilized background see it is naked imperialism.
Fine thought but how would we interpret this into our current policies?
I pay close attention to current events and, working more than fulltime and participating in the community for the common good, am an amatuer student of history. As a concerned citizen, my conclusion was identical to the study Mr Cannon comments on.
The real cause for alarm is the attitude of the upcoming generation. People say things about Western Culture, and America in particular, that shock me. Not with thought provoking sagacity, but with venomous, irrational hate. They define our nation by its mistakes. Shaping moments in history, to them, are not triumphs of courage and resourcefulness, but mere luck aided by rapacious ruthlessness. Pop culture, the tutor of the upcoming generation, buys that lie hook, line, and sinker along with so-called academia. The masses are being indoctrinated in cultural suicide. When they realize they�ve been instructed to tie the noose around their own necks, it�s likely to be too late. And after the next dark age the next round of ungrateful dupes will ignore our stupidity and do the same things.
And there have been agnostic civilizations. There is no God in Shinto (Japan), Taoism and Confucianism (China) and Buddhism (Southeast Asia). And in general, throughout history, the Far East has had far less crime, violence and war than God fearing Western Civilization.
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The one thing that I cannot argue with is the fact that the Dark ages existed. The exact cause may not have been just been the Catholic Church. Other factors were involved.
The largest loss of life in the last century was caused by WWII. Germany, Russia and Japan (the emperor was the god) were not ruled by religious rulers. The estimated death toll by those three stands around 50 million.
Stalin and his cronies could be considered secular humanists. They did not believe in a god. Hitler and his bunch considered themselves the "master race". The Japanese thought themselves as superior to anyone else on their side of the world.
Mao and his followers were secularists also.
We do not know how many died after Mao came to power
around 1947.
As for the Far East having less crime, violence and war, is a myth. It just has not been reported as much as what it is in the West.
Thank you Joe for bringing to our attention the current thoughts of the day. Fortunately when I went to school I was taught to think for myself, but that was pre-60's
and NEA, allowing me a more willingness to consider, understand and, if needed, tolerate all sides of an issue. CB
I'm a history teacher also (public school). And I am unhappy with your analysis of the effects of Christianity.
Catholicism the cause of a cultural decline? The Catholic church, particularly the monasteries, served as the repositories that saved the art and writings of early western civilization while the Barbarians, Vikings, Magyars and Arabs were raiding and nearly destroying what was left of European civilization from the 4th through the 11th centuries. The Catholic church built the cathedrals of Europe, and inspired and paid for much of the art of the Renaissance. (David? Pieta?) Many Catholic figures, such as St. Francis of Assisi, combated violence and intolerance.
Yes, the Crusades and the Reformation turned violent, NOT because Christianity was the root cause, but that princes and leaders were willing to use religion as the pretext for war. The real reasons for these wars were lust for power and greed. These attributes are hardly limited to Christians, but are aspects of the human condition, as you well know.
I'd tackle your analysis of Eastern religions and promotion of secularism, but I'm out of space...
Shalom!
I wonder what Hansen and Cannon want from us? We already have a society that combines a kind of surface piety with the "whatever it takes" strand of capitalism that daily proves its willingness to do about anything that adds to the corporate bottom line. This latter tendency is joined at the hip to our national government's apparent agenda, backing the Dylan line that "you've got to serve somebody". Even troops sent to rescue Katrina survivors did so with bayonets fixed, warning locals against the ultimate sin - looting. The President, citing the expense, promises a veto of health care expansion for children with an additional cost of about what we spend in Iraq each week. And he'll make it stick, because children don't vote, and we love those tax cuts.
If you're going to quote something from the National Review, then why not use the full name of the magazine? Abbreviating it to "NR Online" suggests you are surreptitiously trying to hide the fact you are quoting from a far right magazine. Maybe that game plays well with Des News subscribers who are too obtuse to notice, but to anyone else your coy game is obvious. The right likes to harp on "intellectual honesty," so why don't you practice some yourself.
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Who thinks that? Not those who realize that greed and ego are destroying our way of life. What Cannon doesn't seem to realize is that our actions to destroy the environment (based on personal wealth and the reluctance to give it up for the common good) is part of the problem.