Comments about ‘Warren Jeffs' accuser no longer anonymous’

Of course she won't get any of the money, her lawyer will get it all!

Elissa is an amazing young woman. Regardless of the outcome, she has won. She is a hero for legally challenging the omnipotent power of this group's religious leader(s), which has victimized men, women and children for generations. Congratulations, Elissa. What you've done will change many lives for the better.

I think it is pathetic in this modern age that these little girls are forced into sex slavery. Polygamy has been a blight on Utah and the church for more than a century. When my daughter was in high school she knew some polygamist girls whose father was molesting them. Their mother turned a deaf ear because at least he wasn't molesting her. This abomination of living must be wiped out. I am the great great granddaughter of a polygamist and the stories from that era were the same as today. This poor child deserves everyone's respect for fighting back and speaking out.

There are terrible things that have happened in some polygamist families. I am proud of Elissa and glad she has done what she has. But I was disturbed by NCG's comment. She is blanketing all polygamists by the few encounters she has had. I grew up in a polygamist family and had a very good childhood. Nobody ever molested me and I had a very normal childhood. Nobody would have guessed that I had two moms. That was the only way my family differed from other families. There are very good people who live polygamist lifestyles because of their religious beliefs. It's sad the way too many have chosen to warp it as Warren Jeff's has. I will never agree with forced marriage or arranged marriages, child abuse and the like. But I have to wonder how so many of you can say all polygamists are bad people and in the next breath say you believe Joseph Smith was a prophet.
Many Christians did terrible things throughout history. Were all Christians bad?

I don't know is Joseph Smith was a prophet or not. I don't know is Mohammad was a prophet or not. Both were men, and innately fallible. As Christ said 'There is only One who is perfect. My Father in heaven.' Every story of polygamy in the bible is a cautionary tale and having two mothers who sleep with the same father, is a BIG DEAL and way not like everyone else, thank God. Besides..the hygiene!! I wouldn't even share a toothbrush with another woman.

Warren Jeffs seems quite warped and power hungry, but this trial is a farce. Why is he being tried for rape as an accomplice when it's not even clear that rape happened? I want to know if Elissa is telling the truth. She may have been 14 but now she is 21 and very capable of giving the whole truth. I wonder. And if she isn't, why does that make her a hero? There are so many things that we are learning about the FLDS in this trial that point to the opposite of what the media is cramming down our throats, and still people seem to want to label polygamy as all the same when there are so many different angles. Way more than abuse, child neglect, forced marriages, which I don't believe are really happening down there, incest. Everyone knows that the media will minupulate to their view and bad news is what we get constantly. Why can't people broaden their views a little? Instead taking each bite they feed us?

I totally understand where your coming from. I never said that having two moms was normal. I said my childhood was normal in every other way. I know that it is a very different life style. I understand why people don't like the idea of a man having more than one wife. I just felt it is important that we recognize that not everybody who lives that way is bad. My dad is a good man, who always taught me to do what is right.

I once heard Elder Maxwell say in a BYU speech, "All Indians walk backwards! At least the one I saw did."

He was trying to make the point that not all people behave the same way in the same circumstances. I doubt very much that all those who have a family history of plural marriage will have stories of abuse and/or neglect. When it was instigated by the Prophet Joseph Smith, very few people practiced it.

It is a law that would be very difficult to live, although if they brought it back, I think I would vote "yes". It would be great to have help in the kitchen, laundry room, and taking care of the children.

I know people (even now) who recognize those who are members of polygomist families, but I would never think of it if they didn't point them out. They are not bad people, but their leaders are causing them to do something illegal; i.e. Warren Jeffs told his people not to pay property tax. I'm pretty sure that's illegal.

I think the point that should be made is that sexual sin is in every religion. Baptist, Catholic, Mormon, Polygamists. Sadly it is way to rampant. You can't say all polygamists are molesters and bad people because of the actions of some. The sad thing about this case is that because Warren Jeff's is a sick minded man, he has done way to much harm. It is sad when a man like him has so much power. I think Elissa is doing the right thing. He needs to be stopped.

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THIS ACCUSER IS ABOVE THE LAW
ABOVE STANDARD POLICY OR
ABOVE PROCEDURE


THIS IS HOW THE SECULAR AND RELIGIOUS KINDERGARDEN-CHURCH-STATE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATES


KINDERGARDEN PROCEDURE TO BE EXCUSED...THE [FLDS] KINDERGARDEN PRINCIPAL i.e. W.Jeff will read the note for you to be excused.

You'd better write or note or SIGN a note written by a third party to be either (a) excused from anything or (b) terminated from the army, SEPARATED OR DIVORCED, OR whatever...

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Notice how the attorney didn't say she would be getting any PROPERTY. And very valuable property at that, seeing how real estate values in this area have shot way up since around 2002, with the St. George area being the largest real estate growth area in the state of Utah since 2003.

What's fueling this growth is retirement communities being built all around this area, and these same developers would surely like to get their hands on this church's other properties around there as well. Which is the REAL reason this entire persecution of Jeffs and his church began in the first place after over 100 years of the government leaving these people alone when their land wasn't worth the dirt it sits on... (continued)

...Just follow the money, people, and see the REAL reason why Jeffs is being persecuted, and also ask yourself that if this young lady was raped as prosecutors allege, then WHY HAVEN'T THEY INDICTED THE ALLEGED RAPIST, HER HUSBAND?

Because he's not worth diddly squat, that's why, and they're only interested in taking away this land from Jeffs and his church.

And no, I'm not a Mormon and I don't think Jeffs a prophet and I don't care for this church. It's just that I hate BS, and I love the 1st Amendment freedom of religion clause, and I hate corrupt government and their greedy lobbyists, like the ones who want Jeffs land.

I agree the husband should be charged and maybe the parents for child endangerment. Jeffs is being charged because he ordered the marriage and forced her to be married at the age of 14. After being married sex is going to happen even if she didn't want it to happen. Look at her picture and then tell me you don't think Jeffs should be tried for this. Does she look like she would be a great wife? and Sexual trauma can take years to heal from if ever, and yes being married and "forced" to have sex is criminal act and sexual trauma!

Elissa I commend you for coming forward. In my book you are already winner!!!

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ACCUSER FAILED NORMAL PROCEDURE

If you want: (a) FLDS Execuse from anything, (b) "FLDS Annulment, (c) FLDS Separation, and/or (d) FLDS Divorce, you put it in writting and service it to the FLDS leader for action.

If you failed to do so, you will "FALL TRHOUGH THE CRACKS OF THE [FLDS] SYSTEM."

The Accuser failed to write a letter to the appropriate secular and FLDS authorities; therefore accuser fell throught the cracks of both systems, Secular and FLDS Systems.

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ACCUSER FAILED NORMAL PROCEDURE

If you want: (a) FLDS Execuse from anything, (b) "FLDS Annulment, (c) FLDS Separation, and/or (d) FLDS Divorce, you put it in writting and service it to the FLDS leader for action.

If you failed to do so, you will "FALL TRHOUGH THE CRACKS OF THE [FLDS] SYSTEM."

The Accuser failed to write a letter to the appropriate secular and FLDS authorities; therefore accuser fell throught the cracks of both systems, Secular and FLDS Systems.

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What language is Debater writing? I don't understand a sentence he (or she) has written.

According to the debater you may fall through the cracks without putting something int writing, but what is the point of writing something up if you know that it is going to get rejected? According to her she went to Jeffs to have him annul the marriage. When he said didn't grant her that than what is the point of going through the formalities? If she knew that she was going to sue him and this is all just to get the money, than yes that would have been the smart thing to do. However, if she is sincerely trying to get recompense that it is perfectly understandable to not write something up if the leader that has to approve it anyways has already rejected it.

The Debater uses "mumbo jumbo" and has also fallen through the cracks!!! Imagine a young teenage FLDS child knowing all about the "mumbo jumbo" the debater is talking about and being able to executeon it!!!! Seeing how many of these FLDS polygamist women look repressed and act that way also, in public, one can imagine how they were molded for that role as little children. Try smiling at one some time in Wal Mart or Costco, most likely she will look away, especially if their husband is around.

I have a granddaughter who will turn 14 this November, she is a 4.0 student with many awards. She is not mature enough to stand up to adult authority. I don't believe she is mature enough to have physical relations. How can some of you people look at pictures of that little and believe she was capable of consent. This cult has to be broken up and stopped. Besides, her first cousin!
That gives me the creeps. Warren Jeff is a dog.