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Published: Sunday, Sept. 9 2007 12:18 a.m. MDT

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Sufferer

Haven't we suffered enough, without having to listen to bagpipes?

Carl

What's this referring to: "for the sole purpose of mistreating 40,000 of their fellow Americans." ?

LetsMakeItClear

This sad tragedy occured 150 years ago. I serously doubt that anyone alive today is "hurting" from it. Therefore this is not really about them but about wanting to hurt the LDS Church. This is like saying that slavery still hurts the blacks and wanting reparations to be paid to current living African Americans. It is all about getting attention for those who are protesting so they can benefit in some fashion.

Some might say that they want to raise awareness of forgiving. Well to do that they need to move on and forgive. But they really do not want to move on they simply want to raise an ugly message for their own attention grabbing purposes.

Anonymous

get over it and get a life.

TC

The Mountain Meadow Massacre was TRAGIC,we all wish the event never happened... It makes since that the Southern Utah "Christian Chuches" are so concerned, and have stepped forward to preach the "dangers of inflammatory rhetoric".

Sam Hofer

I imagine that the church loves these 'forgive and forget, bygones be bygones' exercises, hoping the whole thing will just go away. It is not consistent with the past reality the church is trying to create.

Thomas

John Holly was a true Saint, and possessed of a clearer understanding of the truth than the people who taught that obedience to Church leaders is mandatory even if one knows their orders to be wrong.

Affected

Ever since I heard about The Massacre, I go into a panic whenever I am being escorted across a meadow by a white guy dressed up as an Indian.

well duh

Of course, where are these outraged people when it comes to remembering the murdering protestants and such that killed thousands of mormons back east and forcing morr to die on the trip to escape the persecution?

Oh yea sinners and hypocrite's!

Yes the people who murdered the people at the Mountain meadows massacre are being punished for their sins, but until you show compassion and feelings towards all, not just your cause, you will never be a disciple of Christ.

Bob Pippen

Human history is filled, and will continue to be filled with mistakes. This incident, isolated as it was, represent the misguided efforts of a few that effected generations to come. Fear of persecition, invasion, murder were all factors, but none of us were there that day, let the Lord sort it all out in His time, not ours.

me in Yucca Valley

I totally agree with "LetsMakeItClear". It is a sad, and tragic thing that it happened.
Considering the Mormons had been hunted and had to watch their backs at all times, it is almost easy to understand the mentality of "them or us".
You can not un ring a bell, it is something we all have to live with or around !! I am sorry for all who were connected with this unneccessary killing !!
me :>(

NAM, Mesa, AZ

it is tragic what happened there. I went there before they had the monuments and felt unrest, then when they dedicated it I went back and felt the peace that was their. but before it was dedicated I would not go their, now I return whenever I can. I lived near the meadow in the late 80's to 2002. We need to remember the people, we need to let go of the anger, to error is human to forgive divine. Our Savior told us we have to forgive all,for if not then we won't be forgiven. So do not judge anyone by this tragedy, many mistakes were made,and forgiveness needed.

Dear Terry Fancher

I am very sorry for your loss. Maybe reading a World History book, or even just watching the World News Tonight may help you get over the trauma that you suffered from the event that happened a century before you were born.

In the movie Blackhawk Down, a soilder was told to drive the trrops out of the way of some heavy fire, but he said "I can't, I've been shot". Tom Sizemore replied, "We've all been shot... Drive."

Could it be possible for our society to understand our past, but quit picking the scabs off old wounds, causing them to fester, and move forward with forgiveness and a resolution that we must treat all people with dignity.

It's over

The Lord will judge the misdeeds of those who killed the innocent 150 years ago and he will judge the misdeeds of all of us today. Is anyone here over a 150 years old? Those who are stirring the MMM pot are sad examples of forgiveness. Should I hate my neighbor today because of what Cain did to Abel? How should I treat the descendents of the Jews & Romans that persecuted & crucified Christ 2000 years ago? Should I fight against all whites because of the wrongs commited against black slaves in years past? The world would be a sad place if each of us kept bringing up wrongs that happened years ago and fought against descendents of the wrongdoer. Why should Mormons or the Mormon church today be held accountable or get harrassed because of the actions of Mormons & Mormon leaders 150 years ago? It's ludicrous and those alive today that feel wronged are ridiculous. We all have ancestors that were wronged or innocently killed if we go back far enough. The effect on those living today varies based on a lot of factors, namely time, but we aren't unique in this commonality. Those who committed the crime need to do their best to right the wrong. In the MMM case, all of them are dead and await their judgement from God.

Amen!

Amen to what "It's over" said.

Anonymous

Amen to what "it's over" I aggred with it all our and your life is tough and life is hard sometime to make choice. all we need to move on and make life more better. those past can do none to heal but to learn from past to strength the future and better unity.

Ken Baguley

Thank you Reverend Harrington for being clear, honest and insightful.

Craig

Badly written article. Good comments.

Wide Eyed Innocent

Gee. I guess I've been wrong all these years. Here I had always thought that MMM was a mass murder of innocent unsuspecting civilian settlers merely following the trail to CA. Pioneers who actually were quite wealthy compared to most...both in livestock and actual cash.

I've always wondered what happened to their livestock and cash? Surely the good mormon folks who evidently (at least according to the posters on this forum) misguidedly and with good reason, murdered them in the name of the lord would have returned all of their property to their rightful heirs...along with the few children who survived? Right?

I mean...after all...murder is one thing, and evidently excusable under the circumstances according to you folks on this forum. Thievery...well...no good mormon would steal? Would they?

Anonymous

I guess that the same thing that happened to their livestock and cash happened to all the homes and belongings in Nauvoo etc. My goodness this is like flogging a dead horse. No good can come of all this bickering. Those were different times and circumstances. The Mormon people who were driven to and fro, attacked, and persecuted were just as innocent as those pioneers in the meadow. Both were seeking something better in thier lives. They were all innocent. Those misguided people who committed this crimes will get their just reward if not in this life than in the next. But others are not responsible for the actions of a few.

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