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HELLO WASHINGTON D.C. | 1:20 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
This is your wakeup call! If the polichikens, oops I mean politicians,
don't do something quick about this mess, and I mean something quick, we
will all be speaking spanish when we become overrun as a nation!
Who Cares about Spanish | 3:04 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
When peoples lives are being affected by the mess of immigration it seems
foolish to care about something like spanish being spoken in a home. It
wasn't too long ago that many Irish immigrants faced such signs as "No
Irish Need Apply" (NINA). In fact it was because of this type of fear that
many felt that we would be over-run by irish or polish immigrants, so we started
this whole immigration issue. If you've ever been to Ellis Island or to a
citizen swearing in ceremony you would feel proud to know that most people who
come into the US want to be good citizens. The government knows this that's
why they even have a system for illegal immigrants to pay taxes. Thats right,
some of the PAY TAXES, but can't vote. Many become victims to violence and
crimes, but can't report it for fear of being thrown in jail. While I
understand the problem of identity theft, I lay the problem at the feet of our
politicians who choose to play the public fear card to get re-elected instead of
finding a solution to this debacle we call bureaucracy.
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Hahaha | 5:41 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
D.C. created this mess. They wanted it or they would have done something long
ago. So long as we keep putting in the same old parties they aren't going
to fix it. They'll change the law before they'll follow it, but
don't you dare break it.
Enough | 6:15 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
I'm getting more than a little tired of both local papers always writing
sympathetic articles about law breakers.
RB | 6:38 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
I have sympathy for those who seek a better life here. I do not have sympathy
for the identity theft which ruins the lives of innocent, unknowing people.
Those who commit identity theft should be punished to the full extent of the law
and made to pay restitution.
purp | 6:52 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
"she didn't rob". Tell that to the women whose identity was
stolen. I am sure she will thing it was robbery of the worst kind.
Legal Immigrant | 7:23 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
More deportations of illegal lawbreakers are needed . Their dependent children
need to be deported also. The added burden they add to our society in welfare,
crime and other costs is staggering. American citizens cannot afford to pay for
those who choose to break our laws. Come here legally or be deported!
Anonymous | 8:05 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
Nice bleeding heart story except that the ILLEGAL MEXICAN has caused massive
problems for other people while living a criminal life. How much money did
having child out of wedlock cost the US taxpayers???
This woman has no regret about her criminal activity or the suffering she has caused others. She will do it again in a moments notice when she gets a chance. The next time, hubby gets jailed for criminal facilitation and conspiricy while the employer gets jail time.
This woman has no regret about her criminal activity or the suffering she has caused others. She will do it again in a moments notice when she gets a chance. The next time, hubby gets jailed for criminal facilitation and conspiricy while the employer gets jail time.
Read the article! | 8:08 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
I am appalled by the attitude of so many in this state. I doubt it either of
the two previous commentators even read the article. It is so easy to say the
things they do. They have never known the hard life that those who try to cross
the borders here have known. I am at a loss for words because nothing I will
say can change the rampant plague of ignorance that many people are infected
with on this subject. Put yourself in their shoes, just try it. I don't
think you can because you have no idea what life it like for them. Neither do
I! But I can try, and I can refrain from such an ignorant judgemental
attitude.
Anonymous | 8:25 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
Her husban does not know when the family will be together again? How about he
pack up everybody and move to Mexico! She both of them are currently conspireing
to violate US Immigration law again. Arrest him next time for aiding in a
criminal enterprise!
Tammy, OR | 8:44 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
This is absolutely ridiculous. The woman crosses the border illegally and
evidently contemplates the only way her family may be together again is to do it
again.
If Maricela truly knows what she did was wrong (illegally crossing the border and later identity theft by purchasing someone else's Social Security number), she would at least try to take the legal option available.
Obviously the punsihment ISN'T harsh enough if the woman is still contemplating illegal activity and viewing herself as the victim.
If Maricela truly knows what she did was wrong (illegally crossing the border and later identity theft by purchasing someone else's Social Security number), she would at least try to take the legal option available.
Obviously the punsihment ISN'T harsh enough if the woman is still contemplating illegal activity and viewing herself as the victim.
neighbor | 9:06 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
What I am mad about is my neighbor who came here legally with her husband on a
work visa and she has been waiting more than 5 years for the legal process to
give her the ability to work. The whole process is not working even for those
who want to follow the law. Her children can't attend college or even work
to support themselves as adults! So I can see why people are forced into
breaking the law, the law doesn't work either!
Children of Illegals | 9:20 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
I am sick of the liberal whining about children of illegals being left here
without parents!. I was under the impression that they have schools and
children in Mexico!
Compassion | 9:22 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
"There but by the grace of God go I."
Nice you all live such sure and complete lives.
Nice you all live such sure and complete lives.
Teacher | 9:30 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
As a school teacher, allow me to share that the "better life" these
people seek is seeing their kids receive free schooling, not necessarily seeing
their kids graduate, get higher education, pursue a career. The high school
parents I knew were happy their daughters were attending schoo, not on the
streets, and not pregnant. Forget about being tardy, absent, receiving failing
grades. The education of America is being seriously dumbed down to accomodate
the non English speakers. We cannot put them in their own classes while they
learn English, so, except for AP and CP classes and some classes with
prerequisites,your sons' and daughters' curriculum has greatly
changed.
Legal Immigrant | 10:02 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
To: Read the Article,
What is it you do not understand about the word "ILLEGAL?"
This nation will not survive with your "compassionate" attitude. Wake up and be a patriot or join the lawless society you are encourageing.
What is it you do not understand about the word "ILLEGAL?"
This nation will not survive with your "compassionate" attitude. Wake up and be a patriot or join the lawless society you are encourageing.
mom | 10:06 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
I have walked in their shoes and yet I came here legally and did not steal from
others to do it either through identity theft or other. I made may way here
and provided for my children within the law.
It can be done. I know many from Mexico who have been able to make a good life there with hard work and determination. It is possible.
Like other Americans I wish only that they do it legally as I did. Why did the father not go through the proper steps to make her legal a long time ago?
They should all go to Mexico and not split the family. It is of their own doing. Karma as they say
It can be done. I know many from Mexico who have been able to make a good life there with hard work and determination. It is possible.
Like other Americans I wish only that they do it legally as I did. Why did the father not go through the proper steps to make her legal a long time ago?
They should all go to Mexico and not split the family. It is of their own doing. Karma as they say
identity theft victim | 10:28 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
As a victim of identity theft myself, I am appalled at the attitude of the
illegal immigrant in this article. This is apparently a common attitude by those
who commit these crimes (legal citizens or illegal immigrants) in that they do
not think they are hurting anyone else. I do not understand why they think that
their punishment is so harsh. What would be the punishment if they did this in
their own countries? Maricela Naranjos OPTED to be deported to Mexico to AVOID
JAIL TIME. I have very little sympathy for her. Citizens do not have that
option. She stole an identity, KNOWING that what she was doing was illegal and
ignoring the fact that she might one day get caught. If her husband is a
citizen, why did they not try to rectify the citizenship issue as soon as they
were married or his citizenship was granted? Why did they leave her status quo?
Don't play the "poor me" card with me- there are always other
options. To me, this punishment is not quite just enough and if in their own
context it is too harsh then it needs to be sent through the illegal community
that this is what is going to happen if they get caught.
Theft is theft- and what part of the word "illegal" is no one understanding?
Theft is theft- and what part of the word "illegal" is no one understanding?
Healthcare rep | 10:45 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
Comment was made that Ms. Carrasco's holdup on housing was from a $411
podiatry bill.
I have worked in the healthcare industry for years as a patient account rep (collector) and I have seen an alarming trend in the last few years. Hospitals cannot deny treatment to anyone and a lot of illegal immigrants are using identity theft to get healthcare. This is effecting our disabled and elderly, as also those Americans in actual need. Those who are using the stolen identities or not giving valid personal information are not only hurting the healthcare industry by them having to "eat" the cost of the medical services, but are costing the taxpayer monies for all the "charitable" writeoffs that need to be done or the accounts that cannot be collected (sometimes as much as 50% in any given month) because these people cannot be located or collected on. Do we wonder why health insurance premiums are so high? Hospitals and practitioners have to raise their costs to cover these losses by raising their prices, which in turn causes insurance companies to raise theirs. The illegals may claim they are not hurting anyone but they are going through their illegal life in blinders.
I have worked in the healthcare industry for years as a patient account rep (collector) and I have seen an alarming trend in the last few years. Hospitals cannot deny treatment to anyone and a lot of illegal immigrants are using identity theft to get healthcare. This is effecting our disabled and elderly, as also those Americans in actual need. Those who are using the stolen identities or not giving valid personal information are not only hurting the healthcare industry by them having to "eat" the cost of the medical services, but are costing the taxpayer monies for all the "charitable" writeoffs that need to be done or the accounts that cannot be collected (sometimes as much as 50% in any given month) because these people cannot be located or collected on. Do we wonder why health insurance premiums are so high? Hospitals and practitioners have to raise their costs to cover these losses by raising their prices, which in turn causes insurance companies to raise theirs. The illegals may claim they are not hurting anyone but they are going through their illegal life in blinders.
Andino | 11:17 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
deseret MORNING NEWS didn't win me over with this story. Sorry. Bad try.
The lady hasn't learned her lesson nor is the NEWS helping her become a
responsible person. Instead, the NEWS has given her the impression that our
society feels her pain. Shame on them.
What good can come to our nation if laws are not upheld? Condoning or overlooking crime only leads to more crime. And I believe most of us prefer living in a society that honors and respects law.
It would have been more interesting to have read the story of the true victim--the one whose identity was stolen--and to hear of her troubles. However, telling of crime victims' struggles is not part of the deseret MORNING NEWS' agenda. (I miss the days when the deseret NEWS was "The Newspaper of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints." Now, our community is stuck with--but doesn't need--two Salt Lake Tribs.)
When the press plays a sad story about a criminal or otherwise bad person, be forewarned--you're getting hosed.
What good can come to our nation if laws are not upheld? Condoning or overlooking crime only leads to more crime. And I believe most of us prefer living in a society that honors and respects law.
It would have been more interesting to have read the story of the true victim--the one whose identity was stolen--and to hear of her troubles. However, telling of crime victims' struggles is not part of the deseret MORNING NEWS' agenda. (I miss the days when the deseret NEWS was "The Newspaper of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints." Now, our community is stuck with--but doesn't need--two Salt Lake Tribs.)
When the press plays a sad story about a criminal or otherwise bad person, be forewarned--you're getting hosed.
Obese Americans ... | 11:20 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
can't get up their duff to do their jobs, so they want immigrants for
nannies, cooks, gardeners, etc.
Go back to work Americans and quit buying Chinese junk and polluting the whole world.
Go back to work Americans and quit buying Chinese junk and polluting the whole world.
Compassion at a price | 11:22 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
While I believe in being sympathetic & compassionate, this issue drives me
crazy! We are being overrun whether some want to believe it or not.
What makes me the most angry are those who chose to come here illegally, yet demand rights just like full citizens do.
Yes, I'm sure they want a better life. However, their "better life" is costing the American government and inferstructure billions.
These people should stay in their own country and make a difference at home! If the millions who have come here illegally would rise up against the corruption in their own government, maybe desired changes would occur to keep their citizens at home.
The fact is the Mexican government not only encourages this illegal behavior, but openly supports it. They want their own citizens to leave, but post guards on their own southern border to keep other South Americans out, with orders to kill anyone caught trying to cross.
If we had that same type of law on our border, could you imagine the international outcry that would occur?
I believe there is room for compassion, but I also believe in law and order. These people should go home and wait their turn to come here legally!
Our government should also do something to expidite the process of becoming a citizen. A ten year waiting period is just too long. We are now in the 21st century, I just wish our governement would act like it instead of using old archaic social security cards for identification. Washington spend some money to bring our system up with the times, ( a fingerprinting system would be nice) or our children will have no America left for them!
What makes me the most angry are those who chose to come here illegally, yet demand rights just like full citizens do.
Yes, I'm sure they want a better life. However, their "better life" is costing the American government and inferstructure billions.
These people should stay in their own country and make a difference at home! If the millions who have come here illegally would rise up against the corruption in their own government, maybe desired changes would occur to keep their citizens at home.
The fact is the Mexican government not only encourages this illegal behavior, but openly supports it. They want their own citizens to leave, but post guards on their own southern border to keep other South Americans out, with orders to kill anyone caught trying to cross.
If we had that same type of law on our border, could you imagine the international outcry that would occur?
I believe there is room for compassion, but I also believe in law and order. These people should go home and wait their turn to come here legally!
Our government should also do something to expidite the process of becoming a citizen. A ten year waiting period is just too long. We are now in the 21st century, I just wish our governement would act like it instead of using old archaic social security cards for identification. Washington spend some money to bring our system up with the times, ( a fingerprinting system would be nice) or our children will have no America left for them!
Anonymous | 11:37 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
I think the illegal immigrant issues are just getting out of hand. Politics are
doing nothing about it, and if they are then they are sure taking their sweet
'ol time about it, while floods of illegals cross the border every day. I
think when one takes the identity of someone inocent, it is wrong, whether they
do it to better themselves or not. Fact is, is that while they are bettering
themselves, they are ruining someone else life. We are being over populated here
in the U.S. Cost of living is increasing by far, and allowing illegals to become
legal really is not the answer. When is enough going to be enough? We can not
keep taking illegals and making them legal. If that is the case, think how many
illegals will be rushing to cross that border...and politics finding ways to
make them legal, since they are already here. If they want to come into the U.S
why not have them labor, making a huge wall on every southern state to stop the
flood of other illegals. It used to be the fight against Europeans invading the
Native American lands...now it's the invasion of illegals immigrants.
Something is terribly wrong with the people in politics to allow this to happen.
They should house them and allow them to use their identities if they
aren't going to do anything but sit on their thumbs about this problem.
Native Am. | 11:46 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
From Compassion at a price: "We are being overrun whether some want to
believe it or not. What makes me the most angry are those who chose to come here
illegally, yet demand rights just like full citizens do."
Because the British emigration in King George's day was any different. Or the Irish emigration. Or the French. Or the Russian, Greek or Polish.
Tell me there weren't hundreds of thousands who came into Ellis Island under false pretense. Because their skin color and language was similar to yours, it was OK? Because the kids had blonde hair and blue eyes, and could say a couple of things in broken English from learning in their native Scandanavia it was passable?
Today, it's the same. Only it's Cubans in zodiacs, Asians in slow-boat cargo holds and people from Mexico, Mexi-cans, looking simply for what you take for granted on a Sunday morning in front of a computer, sipping coffee or cocoa getting ready for church or football: a better life.
Lawlessness will always be around. It's not Utopia.
Ain't karma grand.
Because the British emigration in King George's day was any different. Or the Irish emigration. Or the French. Or the Russian, Greek or Polish.
Tell me there weren't hundreds of thousands who came into Ellis Island under false pretense. Because their skin color and language was similar to yours, it was OK? Because the kids had blonde hair and blue eyes, and could say a couple of things in broken English from learning in their native Scandanavia it was passable?
Today, it's the same. Only it's Cubans in zodiacs, Asians in slow-boat cargo holds and people from Mexico, Mexi-cans, looking simply for what you take for granted on a Sunday morning in front of a computer, sipping coffee or cocoa getting ready for church or football: a better life.
Lawlessness will always be around. It's not Utopia.
Ain't karma grand.
amazed in Connecticut | 11:55 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
How representative are the majority of views expressed here of Utahns in
general? I must say they reflect on you very badly. To say, "I believe in
compassion, BUT..." is no sort of compassion at all. How about building
the sort of society in which no one is as destitute as Ms. Carrasco, or helping
to build up the societies of our neighboring nations so that families like Ms.
Naranjos don't feel the need to leave home? Do these readers of the DN
realize that the United States ranks last among the worlds 22 richest nations in
per capita foreign aid? Those who profess any religious or ethical beliefs and
who would put "following the law" over basic human compassion should
examine their hearts and let their gratitude for the blessings and riches of
their own lives lead them to helping their fellow men.
It happened to me... | 11:55 a.m. Sept. 16, 2007
I barely knew the meaning of the words "identity theft" until it
happened to me three years ago. It was a nightmare...one of the worst kinds of
"robbery". I feel for the victims and their families.
In general, laws establish order, with the proper consequences for breaking them instilled. So, supposedly we have all of these "laws", and yet it's chaos, not order. From what I gathered from the story, it's a "lose-lose" situation. So, trying to more optimistic, which future president is willing to take this issue to the forefront and make the necessary changes? I challenge you....make a stand.
In general, laws establish order, with the proper consequences for breaking them instilled. So, supposedly we have all of these "laws", and yet it's chaos, not order. From what I gathered from the story, it's a "lose-lose" situation. So, trying to more optimistic, which future president is willing to take this issue to the forefront and make the necessary changes? I challenge you....make a stand.
identity theft victim | 12:23 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
To Native Am.: about your comment about the immigrants in King George's day
through Ellis Island-
Things WERE different back then. In King George's day this really wasn't yet a country and there really weren't any strict laws about coming here. As for Ellis Island- yes, there were a lot of people coming in here under false pretenses and also a lot of bribery going on, but the fact of the matter is that they were all coming here legally, documented on a vessel and going through the ranks. Generally if they did not have papers, were not healthy, or did not have any type of funds (i.e. POOR), they were shipped home. The point is that they WERE documented, at least marginally, and they were all coming over here on a ship and PAID PASSAGE. Immigration laws were different then. They are supposed to be enforced a lot better now but we have allowed this big hole in the bottom of the country to allow those with the right kind of twisted ethics to sneak into our country and take advantage of it.
Mexicans are not, and should not, be considered the only people who fall into the illegal category. They only reason that they are in the forefront is that they are the most vocal in the illegal community about it. I have known illegal Canadians, South Americans, Asians, and Europeans. Most of these people do not voice themselves so as not to attract attention (and some go home because they can't deal with the pressure). I question why the Mexicans are so vocal about it. They SNUCK in illegally and should pay the consequences.
Things WERE different back then. In King George's day this really wasn't yet a country and there really weren't any strict laws about coming here. As for Ellis Island- yes, there were a lot of people coming in here under false pretenses and also a lot of bribery going on, but the fact of the matter is that they were all coming here legally, documented on a vessel and going through the ranks. Generally if they did not have papers, were not healthy, or did not have any type of funds (i.e. POOR), they were shipped home. The point is that they WERE documented, at least marginally, and they were all coming over here on a ship and PAID PASSAGE. Immigration laws were different then. They are supposed to be enforced a lot better now but we have allowed this big hole in the bottom of the country to allow those with the right kind of twisted ethics to sneak into our country and take advantage of it.
Mexicans are not, and should not, be considered the only people who fall into the illegal category. They only reason that they are in the forefront is that they are the most vocal in the illegal community about it. I have known illegal Canadians, South Americans, Asians, and Europeans. Most of these people do not voice themselves so as not to attract attention (and some go home because they can't deal with the pressure). I question why the Mexicans are so vocal about it. They SNUCK in illegally and should pay the consequences.
Who Knows | 1:01 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
While sad, children are often separated from parents when the parents break the
law. The child of a drug dealer, an embezzaler, or a bank robber are deprived
of their parents when they are caught. The Drug dealer, embezzaler, and bank
robber are all motivated by money and a "better life". I we
don't excuse their behavior because they have children then we
shouldn't excuse those who break the law, enter the country illegally and
steal identities. Looking for a better life is not justification to ignore the
Law. Many like myself are not opposed to people of other countries. I am
opposed to people of all citizenship status who ignore the law. It is the
disregard for the rule of law (i.e. bribes) that causes Mexico its problems not
the lack of natural resources. We do not need to import people who disregard
the Law. We should invite those who will obey the law and enter legally.
dblagent007 | 1:35 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
Amazed in Connecticut, why don't you get off your high horse and actually
see what the people in Utah do. The people of Utah do a lot to not only help
other Utahns but also help others internationally. However, we believe very
strongly in the rule of law. You break the law, you pay the consequences. That
is the way it should be. The lade committed identity theft and she deserved
everything she got. She should not have come into this country illegally. That
was her choice. Now she needs to face the consequences. I am sympathetic to
the plight of her children, but ultimately the rule of law needs to be
upheld.
Compassion | 2:49 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
Compassion is great, but it doesn't justify breaking the law. Our jails are
full of people that, "just want to make a better life," by stealing,
fraud and other illegal methods. Everyone pretends that illegal aliens are not
stealing jobs from legal workers. (doing work Americans won't do) This is a
lie being fed to us by our government and the cheap labor employers. The illegal
aliens are actually depressing wages throughout the entire unskilled labor
sector. These suppressed wages require the taxpayers to support workers in jobs
that pay below subsistence wage. Wages like everything else are a product of
supply and demand.
Intentionally not enforcing the law has created the situation reported in this "sympathy" article.
Intentionally not enforcing the law has created the situation reported in this "sympathy" article.
Retired cop | 4:00 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
Strong emotions are obviously evident from those who take time to comment on
this article. But emotions, if permitted to be the sole objective criteria, can
never lead to a society that will endure and provide an opportunity for its
citizens to lead productive lives.
That said: our only means to survive - as a society and nation - is by the rule of law. Like it or not, that is the way it is. At the present time, uncontrolled illegal immigration, if allowed to continue unabated, cannot withstand the test of time on our society which will lead to it�s ultimate failure
Those who desire to be compassionate to those who come here illegally also need to extend the same compassion to:
1. Legal citizens who are victimized by illegal immigrants who commit identity theft.
2. legal citizens who see their hard earned wages going to illegal immigrants who flaunt the laws of our nation by receiving government subsidies, causing our educational system to be overcrowded by the children of illegal immigrants and demanding in-state college tuition,
3. legal citizens who have to pay higher hospital bills caused by those here illegally who use our medical facilities and do not pay,and
4. legal citizens who are victimized by illegal immigrants who rape, rob and murder our citizens and law enforcement officers then flee to Mexico.
And we all need to consider the corrupt Mexican government who ruthlessly enforces its own Southern border, but encourages its citizens to come to the US and send money home, and our own politicians who have no spine to enforce our laws, only looking out for themselves so they can be re-elected --- and our citizens who keep re-electing these corrupt, do-nothing Members of Congress.
That said: our only means to survive - as a society and nation - is by the rule of law. Like it or not, that is the way it is. At the present time, uncontrolled illegal immigration, if allowed to continue unabated, cannot withstand the test of time on our society which will lead to it�s ultimate failure
Those who desire to be compassionate to those who come here illegally also need to extend the same compassion to:
1. Legal citizens who are victimized by illegal immigrants who commit identity theft.
2. legal citizens who see their hard earned wages going to illegal immigrants who flaunt the laws of our nation by receiving government subsidies, causing our educational system to be overcrowded by the children of illegal immigrants and demanding in-state college tuition,
3. legal citizens who have to pay higher hospital bills caused by those here illegally who use our medical facilities and do not pay,and
4. legal citizens who are victimized by illegal immigrants who rape, rob and murder our citizens and law enforcement officers then flee to Mexico.
And we all need to consider the corrupt Mexican government who ruthlessly enforces its own Southern border, but encourages its citizens to come to the US and send money home, and our own politicians who have no spine to enforce our laws, only looking out for themselves so they can be re-elected --- and our citizens who keep re-electing these corrupt, do-nothing Members of Congress.
Fair | 4:24 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
Deport her and do not let her come back. She lied and she stoled, do not reward
bad behavier. She can take her husband and children with her. theres JOBS and
SCHOOLS in Mexico. Cut the WELFARE and FRAUD. Taxpayers have had enough.
Compassion at a price | 5:04 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
Native Am.- (I am of Native American descent. I feel that what was done to the
Native American population and culture is a travisty!) I am in no way against
Mexicans or Mexican culture. I could care less from what country the illegals
were coming from. White, black, brown, yellow, red, purple, green etc., color
is not an issue. Why people make it an issue, I will never figure out! I have
many dear friends who are Latino. who have come here through legal channels.
Which was difficult, but not impossible. I am merely against those who break
the law, and then decide to demand their rights. They should be making their
country of origin better, so that there is no desire to come here.
Ellis Island was over 100 years ago. We have a new set of problems with new issues. Those who came from Europe were documented, unlike their modern counterparts.
Dear Amazed in Connecticut--Get your facts straight. Americans give more of their money to charity than ANY other modernized country. Who gave the most to the tsunami victims, hello, America. Who gave the most to European nations after WWII, that's right America did. The list goes on and on. Americans have heart & soul and are willing to show the world with their pocketbooks.
Other European countries are grappeling with the same issues we are. France is one example. They are so tired of being overrun with illegals in their country, that they ousted their liberal governement for one far more conservative. Why as Americans do we continually compare ourselves to Europe? I will never figure it out.
Ellis Island was over 100 years ago. We have a new set of problems with new issues. Those who came from Europe were documented, unlike their modern counterparts.
Dear Amazed in Connecticut--Get your facts straight. Americans give more of their money to charity than ANY other modernized country. Who gave the most to the tsunami victims, hello, America. Who gave the most to European nations after WWII, that's right America did. The list goes on and on. Americans have heart & soul and are willing to show the world with their pocketbooks.
Other European countries are grappeling with the same issues we are. France is one example. They are so tired of being overrun with illegals in their country, that they ousted their liberal governement for one far more conservative. Why as Americans do we continually compare ourselves to Europe? I will never figure it out.
lived in mexico | 5:07 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
these immigrants make it sound like they escaped a world war II concentration
camp. I went to school for a few years in Mexico and guess
what>>>> the kids there were going to school, they were happy and
people had food. They didnt have all the money of someone working 2 jobs in
wendover but people in mexico eat, drink, work, study and survive!
Travis Williamsburg | 5:13 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
What would JesusChrist do with all those illegal immigrants? He would probably
send the immigration agents to pick them up. He would probably give them his
back. He would probably chastise them and tell them that they need to repent of
their actions and pay the price through the consequences. But most definelty, he
would punish them for being here illegally. Why? Why because Christ believes the
rule of law is first and compassion second. For Christ, you either obey the
commandments or pay the price. Love and compassion don't exist. Rules are
rules.
In Heaven, there are only White, Republicans, Consevatives Christians, Mormons, because they are all "doing the right thing." In Heaven, there are no illegals, no mexicans, no Muslims, no Jews, only "God fearing and commandment obeying Americans" from conservative Utah (especially from Utah County).
In Heaven, there are only White, Republicans, Consevatives Christians, Mormons, because they are all "doing the right thing." In Heaven, there are no illegals, no mexicans, no Muslims, no Jews, only "God fearing and commandment obeying Americans" from conservative Utah (especially from Utah County).
anthroman | 5:15 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
hey, native american, ever herd of the kennewick man ? Evidently "native
americans" are late comers also.
Final ruling : break the law = pay the price
Final ruling : break the law = pay the price
Michelle | 5:28 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
The biggest problem I see with the illegal immigrants is what it takes away from
those who live here legally. I was a single mom, not by my choice, who was
attending college full-time and working a part-time job, but could not get any
help from the government that I had paid taxes to since the age of 15. Yet, I
constantly hear about the illegal immigrants who are receiving welfare, food
stamps, medicaid, education waivers, free/reduced housing, etc. Where does it
end? What about those of us here who need that type of help, but are told no
because we have a minivan?
Geronimo | 5:33 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
As an Indian I say please all of you illegal immigrants from Europe-that means
everyone one of you- go back to where you came from. Your ancestors refused to
speak our language, assimilate to our customs and culture, and they did worse
than commit identity theft-they stole ALL our land. You people are narrow minded
hypocrites.
tired of illegal immigrants | 5:55 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
to bad to said she had to go back to mexico and her familys here she did fruad
she knew when she bought the ssi no it was wrong how would they feel if we went
to mexico stole thier indentines how would there goverment treat us she ruined
another familes live and honestley that girl she stole her identiy dersevres
there wendover home her cars now thats justice mean while she needs to stay and
live her life in mexico and get over it and stay there for good
Mr walpin | 6:35 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
Uuuum, Chief Have-No-Wampum heap big mad.
Me thinkum you be wrong bout the white man. Not all the white man come here from Europe. Beside who would bringum the fire water for you to drink?
I speak the words of truth with my blood brothers and do not with forked tonque.
Me go sit in TeePee now and somkem' peace pipe with Neighbor
Me thinkum you be wrong bout the white man. Not all the white man come here from Europe. Beside who would bringum the fire water for you to drink?
I speak the words of truth with my blood brothers and do not with forked tonque.
Me go sit in TeePee now and somkem' peace pipe with Neighbor
geromino? | 6:39 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
hey geronimo, we bought this land at fair market value. it took white euorpean
industry to make America. Prior to that this country was a wilderness.
thatknopsgirl | 6:53 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
I have NO sympathy for those who enter this country ILLEGALLY..the media tries
to play on our sympathies by using the "children card"...but,
it's not going to work..i, frankly, am sick and tired of working so that my
tax dollars can pay for these illegals..i am tired of seeing overcrowded schools
and the negative impact that it has on the children who have the right to be
there..of seeing the public welfare system overcroweded with these ILLEGALS..i
will do everything in my power to get them out...
geromino? | 6:56 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
hey geronimo, we bought this land at fair market value. it took white euorpean
industry to make America. Prior to that this country was a wilderness.
AZ | 8:10 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
For Mexico, this is a win-win situation. Migrants who come to the US send
BILLIONS of dollars back to their familes in Mexico- in fact, the money sent to
Mexico is the second only to oil exports for Mexico. In addition, Mexico
doesn't have to worry about education or health care for all Mexican
citizens or their children in the US because the US taxpayers foot that bill. A
couple of years ago in Arizona there was a major uproar because the Mexican
gov't printed an official guide to crossing the border safely- in a comic
book type format- and handed it out in the border towns. When it was discovered
and made public, they quickly backpedaled saying that "since the migrants
were going to cross the border anyway, they needed to do it safely".
70% of the voters here have denied public benefits to non-citizens including in-state tuition and public money for college scholarships. We have to show ID to vote & those who are here illegally, if arrested for a violent crime, are denied bail. As of Jan 1st 2008, all employers must verify that employees are here legally or they face serious consequences, including losing their business licence. ICE in Phoenix has gone from only responding if a major drop house was discovered to responding every single time and as a result, deportations have doubled in the last year.
I have compassion for these poor people, and but I also believe in obeying the law of the land. Those who claim the law is "broken" and needs to be "fixed"- that's like saying because everyone breaks the speed limit, no one should ever be given a speeding ticket. It's broken because illegal immigrants choose to break our laws, steal our IDs & then complain about consequences.
70% of the voters here have denied public benefits to non-citizens including in-state tuition and public money for college scholarships. We have to show ID to vote & those who are here illegally, if arrested for a violent crime, are denied bail. As of Jan 1st 2008, all employers must verify that employees are here legally or they face serious consequences, including losing their business licence. ICE in Phoenix has gone from only responding if a major drop house was discovered to responding every single time and as a result, deportations have doubled in the last year.
I have compassion for these poor people, and but I also believe in obeying the law of the land. Those who claim the law is "broken" and needs to be "fixed"- that's like saying because everyone breaks the speed limit, no one should ever be given a speeding ticket. It's broken because illegal immigrants choose to break our laws, steal our IDs & then complain about consequences.
joe | 8:37 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
heartwarming story, i feel no sympathy for anyone in this story, including the
poor u.s. citizen who lives with her family and her three children and her
unemployed boyfriend. she could'nt have reported all those earnings because
she's been on welfare all that time.
Tom | 8:41 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
The caption under Mr Naranjo's picture said that he was a "legal"
U. S. Citizen. What other kind of U.S. Citizen is there?? Ohhhh, you want to
differentiate from the "illegal" U. S. Citizens, the ones the rest of
us call immigrants. Well, now I think we can agree that though they might all
be citizens of North America, they are definitely NOT United States Citizens.
Your choice of words was purposeful and intended to show some
"legality" to his wife. You also noted that she had the
"unfortunate bad luck" to be caught. Would you feel the same way
about me if I cheated on my income taxes, and then got caught? How about if I
committed a buglary, and had the "unfortunate bad luck" to get caught?
After all, by cheating on my taxes and stealing I was just be trying to improve
my life and get ahead economically....
Anonymous | 8:47 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
End ALL illegal Alien problems! Deport them ALL! NO exceptions! NONE!
They seem to have an UNLIMITED number of scams to defraud everybody! Unlimited!
Get them out of here and KEEP them out of here! No matter what it takes!
They seem to have an UNLIMITED number of scams to defraud everybody! Unlimited!
Get them out of here and KEEP them out of here! No matter what it takes!
Mark Whitney | 9:11 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
The plight of the poor of the world is indeed sad. But they cannot all come
here. Mexico has one of the most robust economies of the world, yet so many of
its people are destitute. Mexico guards its own southern border jealously from
incursions by the even poorer central American residents. The US welcomes more
legal immigrants than the rest of the world combined, but our unique and
desirable culture cannot withstand an invasion such as we are witnessing.
Mark Whitney
Sandy
Mark Whitney
Sandy
MEB | 9:18 p.m. Sept. 16, 2007
Hey, Chief! You are right - Europeans came here illegally (assuming Native
Americans actually had immigration laws), and look at the result. They stole
all of your land and you live on a reservation. Are the Europeans-Americans
smart enough to learn from your mistakes???
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We all have positive or negative consequences for our actions in life. Maybe she should have thought things through a little more cautiously.
Those who have had their identities stolen are the real victims here.