Comments about ‘Excerpts from "September Dawn" reviews’

We loved the film, being well acquainted with the territory photography, the many books of the mormons and their prophet and his crimes in the midwest. So this was just a continuation with the succeeding prophet of the Mormons! Obviously, none of the commentators read Mark Twain who told the story well in his book, published 1890. Just because it is a shameful atrocity of a religiow zealot and his enforcers, Brother Brigham Young is a shameful chapter in the mormons and Americans History. Perhaps some of the commentators should read the "Utah War" by Bancroft and a few other REAL American History books instead of the flimsy history in public schools we wouldn't dare send our children to. Shame on the commentators and Hooray for Cain and his cast of Americans who dare to tell the truth of a blood bath in Utah in 1857 of a fine group from Arkansas in a 40 Wagon Train and over 100 herd of Prize cattle, gold, their own physician, buggys and everything to sustain them but water and grain for thier cattle. More movies like this one PLEASE.

I just couldn't get over the horrific acting of General Zod. If anything, this movie was so bad it made his Zod performance great!

I guess the first commentator loves rape, murder, arson, robbery, mobs, government corruption, and the breach of the Constitution of the United States. I guess he/she also loved the Holocaust. Because these are the documented things (in the annals of the States of Illinois, Missouri, Ohio, New York, and Congress) that happened to the Mormons in other places they lived. He/she must be "Christian" because they call themselves followers of Jesus Christ and then support the bashing out of the brains of little boys such as happened at Haun's Mill, Missouri, and the rapes of women and children such as happened all over the place to the Mormons by Christian ministers, teamed up with judges, soldiers, and county clerks.

This movie, and the comments of people like "September Dawn" will only generate more interest in the Mormons and their doctrine, because reasonable will only think "Gee. I need to learn for myself, and not learn from some Hollywood movie."

The fact that Mr. Cain is a "born-again Christian" says it all. He's anxious to produce anything which might disparage Mormonism in an election year.

A little context (Brigham Young sent a message to allow the Arkansas settlers safe passage, Parley P. Pratt's assassination in Arkansas, the Haun's Mill Massacre, etc.) would have redeemed an otherwise film to be relegated to the trash bin.

The latest Ensign explains what happened on SEPT 11, 1857. The movie is just out making up stuff to make money.

Yawn!

Who brought Cain (isn't that an appropriate name?) out of retirement to do this? During presidential campaigning time with a Mormon in the campaign? Why doesn't Cain balance this film with another about the persecution of the Mormons? Cain's film is fictionalization at its best.

I think it is very interesting that a movie such as this would be released this year. Mormons get very little attention on the whole. I am sure that anything negative that can be dug up will be in this election year. Mitt for good or for bad is a Mormon and so will call attention by those wanting to control the electorate bye spreading lies and falsehoods. It would be telling to know who financed the film............REALLY. I'm sure that won't happen.

As I have loved you, love one another. This new commandment, love one another. By this shall men know, ye are my disciples. If ye have love one to another.
This is a song that we teach to our primary children and a lesson that we should keep in our hearts as adults, if we profess to be disciples of christ.
This movie is inaccurate, does not tell the whole story and from what we read by the critics is not well made. The attack was motivated by fear. It is funny that we live in a country founded on freedom and yet attack those who do not believe the same as we do. Learn from the past, love your neighbor, what is to be accomplished by acting like a bully.

Historical accuracy is always difficult when it comes to religion. No matter what evidence is available, it can be ignored or twisted because of the strong passions on either side. Some scholars claim, for example, that the letter from Brigham Young specifically ordering safe passage for all wagon trains contained "covert orders" for the exact opposite. Whether President Young knew of the massacre beforehand must, officially, remain a "maybe" because of compelling arguments for either side, and that is something that LDS members are just going to have to accept.

I'm actually glad for the Church that such movies are being made; too many LDS refuse to learn about any negative events connected with the Church, which only reinforces the idea of the LDS Church as a cult. We should learn about these events from the PoV of both sides so we can make intelligent conversation whenever the subject is raised instead of just replying, "I don't know anything about it, but it didn't happen that way!"

Judging from the reviews, however, this movie doesn't seem to qualify as intelligent conversation. Try Wikipedia or something instead.

How about producing a movie about the horrible things that were done to the mormons?That's okay because you're just hurting yourself. God will deal with you in his own way. We cannot help what happened in the past.Mormons are the most christ-
like people I have ever met.

This movie and other anti mormon propagandas are evidences that Satan is so desperate in trying to destroy the church of LDS, their leaders, and their values. They will do everything in their power to create hatred against people who are living decent lives, non smokers, non drinkers, chaste, who fast and pray and help people of all races, religion and creeds in their times of need. The only truth shown in the movie September Dawn is the massacre of 120 men, women and children, by a few mormons. But I do not believe that Brigham Young ever ordered the massacre or at least instigated it. I know that the leaders of the LDS church from Joseph Smith to Gordon B Hinkley are all men of righteousness. If you don't believe me go see the present LDS prophet. Just by looking at him from a distant, you can tell he is a righteos man and a prophet, and much more when he speaks and advises all men to live better and righteos lives. So what is Cain's real agenda, being an evangelical Christian? I don't wonder about it.. because a lot of professed Christian religions have anti mormon stuff in their gospel teaching. they ran out of their own doctrines, so let's bash the "bad mormons".

The Evangelicals who produce such drivel over-reached on this one. The Mountain Meadows Massacre is not one of the sining moments in LDS history, nor is this cheap polemic a shining moment of movie production.

It will give the haters of few moments of self gratification and solidify their deepest fears about Mormons amd thier church. It does leave me with the question: "Are Evangelicals Christian?" By thier fruits ye shall know them, and by the fruits produced by this movie it would appear that many of them are not Christian.

It's sad and unfortunate, but nontheless true. No matter what anyone says or does, no matter what documented history shows, there will always be people who have strong negative feelings toward The Church of Jesus Chirst of Latter-day Saints [also known as LDS or mormons] because people in general don't really understand the doctrine and beliefs of the church. And histoy bears record time and again that people fear what they don't understand.

Additionally, most people who claim to supposedly "know the truth" about the LDS church are usually people who themselves have been members who either had a bad experience with another person who is simply human and made a mistake, or they made choices contrary to the gospel, and as a result they spend their time and efforts trying to bring down the LDS church as a means of vengence.

When the Lord walked the earth He was heavily persecuted and so is His church today. Let Him decide who Christains are.

I like movies like this. There's an old saying that goes like this: "I don't care what you say about me as long as you mention my name." Movies like this are so ridiculous and stupid it is actually a paid for advertisement for the Mormons and Mitt Romney. Romney's popularity will increase and more people will join the Mormon church. Now that's the truth!

What a joke,
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As a member of the LDS Church, I'm not really bothered by this film. In some ways, I have come to expect it. Why is it such a shock that a few isolated, misguided and fear-filled members of my church lost their minds and committed murder given the cruel and bitter persecution they had suffered in the recent past? There were rumors at the time that people would come from back east to drive us from our homes again or rape and murder us as they had in Missouri and Illinois. One of our leaders had recently been murdered in Arkansas and the federal government was bearing down on us too (So much for giving us your tired and your poor). Despite the persecution, we remained loyal to the Constitution of the United States and even served in the military during the Mexican-American War.

Our persecution and suffering doesn't make what those people at Mountain Meadows did justifiable, but it should make it understandable when you put it in context. It represented a low point in our history, but I don't judge an entire people by the actions of a few, whether my own or someone else's. Mr. Cain and his cast have unwittingly demonstrated the very fear and bigotry that they proclaim to be against. Thankfully, it was expressed with such low quality movie-making and in such poor taste that people can see it coming a mile away.

I recommend those who review and criticise the "September Dawn" movie to check out the documentary DVD "Burying the Past" by Brian Patrick on this subject.

No organisation or faith should hide away the past, at the end of the day Only ONE PERSON will Judge!

I get so tired of hearing this argument: Anyone who has left the LDS Church must have made choices contrary to the gospel and therefore they hate the church. That is so trite and hackneyed. Has it ever occurred to you that perhaps some people who have left the church have done it for legitimate reasons? I am not an anti-Mormon, but Im certainly not an anti-Thinker, either...