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Jazz, Fesenko deal almost done
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1) He has a pretty decent 15 foot shot and he can shoot free throws pretty well for a big man (Araujo struggles in both those areas)
2) Although he is not a great defender, he is one of the best floppers in the league; this often frustrates much better players to the point where they begin to make mistakes or commit fouls
3) He never complains about playing time; you can't have 12 guys on the team who all think they should get 30 minutes/game or more
4) His coaches and teammates genuinely like him because of his attitude, work ethic, and character; he is a good influence on younger players and he will never be the source of a locker room problem
5) He is steady - you pretty much know what he is going to give you (unlike Araujo and Fesenko that will give you some good games and some horrid games)
I like Araujo - a lot. I think he brings things to the table as well. But we could look pretty hard before we find a credible back-up center at the bargain price that Collins demands.
You fans who are detractors are the proof of the old adage that the most popular guy in town is the back-up quarterback. Everybody thinks the untested, unproven guy is better than the guy who is playing - whose weaknesses are out there for everyone to see. If you get your wish, it won't even be Christmas before you are complaining about Araujo and Fesenko.
Seriously though - does it really matter. We are talking about Collins and Arujio. Neither will see much playoff time and neither one will make a serious difference in a single game.
need a taller two gaurd. Why are they not listening to what all of the basketball world knows? There are
plenty of vets and people to get. I still think Sloan conceded the San Antonio series before it started, it almost looked 'fixed'.
Humpty fell off the wall...again and again.
I salute the signing of the 2nd (semi) Rusky.
Haffa is likely off to Europe - hopefully he plays.
Collins is dead weight on the bench - personally
I'd take Haffa over Collins - more intensity.
Where do the Jazz "fall off"? Personally I'd like
to see Mr. Sloan walk into the sunset; and bring in a coach that play's the rookies and not nightly
sing the melancholy blues that takes the spirit and soul out of so many players. Almond better have a decent chance to play; and I'd like to see what Miles and Brewer can do. It's a pandoras box at #2 guard - too many players, and those that sit, will put on a good face but privately wail.
Amazing to me - so many million paid to player personell, asst. and head coaches. Sack them likewise? and run the show via a Des News bulletin board blog committee. The above thread is evidence that (some) bright minds are out there - yes Larry,
folk not within your Jazz tent - can still have a viable pulse and sense of direction re "your Jazz,"
even though you often say it isn't so?
As much as I wouldn't mind a Gira trade, he'll probably stay also to try to give some developement and leadership for Ronnie and Almond, who will be Utah's main 2's in a couple years. After Ronnie and Almond start to develope and get into a regular rotation, that's when the Jazz will win a championship because the rest of the team will be in their prime or still improving with many good years left in them.
As a Jazz fan, there is nothing I would like more than to have a decade or more of D-Will and Dee Brown, but I just don't see it happening. And if I was in Dee's shoes, I think I would be just like him ... I would have to go and see what is the greatest height I could achieve.
Nobody is the bad guy here. I think the Jazz brass would love to have him around for a long time. I think Dee has to go see what he is worth and he ws honest enough to say so. I think the Jazz then had to make sure they were covered at back-up PG and now Dee appears to be the odd man out. The Jazz (or any team) cannot move any free agent signees for at least 90 days - league rules.
I hear everything you said Joe, but after three seasons of watching 70+ Jazz games on league pass since I left UTah, I just can't take take watching Collins' lay-ups get blocked over and over and over. Sorry. At least with Hoffa I get the entertainment value of his ink.
and stop thinking of a buyout of his contract - the Jazz didn't sign last year for 3 years just to dump him after one...he'll definitely be here for the remaining two years of his contract and first and formost, he'll be a very good influence on younger players and the team as a whole....he can surely teach Fess how to defend with his body - he won't learn that from Memo...
and don't worry of Collins taking playing time from Fess..you saw how may fouls Fess had during Revue....he's not yet NBA ready, and 10 minutes per game is maximum what he can play...noone would use him as a back-up center just yet
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