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Rove's politics rooted in Utah experiences
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george | 6:24 a.m. Aug. 14, 2007
A criminal is still a criminal, and that he has Utah roots is not something to
be proud of.
Robert H. Kjar | 6:54 a.m. Aug. 14, 2007
A good article with things positive about this man Rove. In Houston the
chronicle paints him as a demon.
Lew Jeppson | 8:41 a.m. Aug. 14, 2007
Yes, of course, Rove approached it with a sense of service, not a will to power.
Gag!
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Aragon | 9:00 a.m. Aug. 14, 2007
The best of luck to him. Just an advice though....Stay away from Rap
Music....LOL!!
Raymond Takashi Swenson | 9:22 a.m. Aug. 14, 2007
I am also a product of the JD Williams era at the Hinckley Institute at the
University of Utah. Other high school and college teachers in Utah continue to
have similar influence on other young women and men, pointing them toward public
service.
It is also a sad fact that entering public service also can make you a target for people who cannot simply disagree over policies, but feel they must attack and destroy their political adversaries. As the Democratic-controlled Congress is demonstrating, the result is to display their own intolerance and incompetence.
The greatest public servants I have known have recognized the common interests they share with their political adversaries. Frankly, President Bush has continued to follow that model of restraint, despite the terrible provocations offered each day by those who place attacking him as more important than defending America.
It is also a sad fact that entering public service also can make you a target for people who cannot simply disagree over policies, but feel they must attack and destroy their political adversaries. As the Democratic-controlled Congress is demonstrating, the result is to display their own intolerance and incompetence.
The greatest public servants I have known have recognized the common interests they share with their political adversaries. Frankly, President Bush has continued to follow that model of restraint, despite the terrible provocations offered each day by those who place attacking him as more important than defending America.
Raymond | 9:40 a.m. Aug. 14, 2007
If you really believe that Bush is a shining example of pursuing the common
interest, you're even more delusional than the average Utahn. Are you
serious? His policies and implementations have done nothing but exclude and
alienate to the point that even his own party is trying to distance themselves.
I'm not holding the Democrats blameless, but let's at least try and be
fair.
dante gumucio | 10:29 a.m. Aug. 14, 2007
Rove is responsible for the most extreme partisanship I've witnessed in my
life time (1950-). But when someone resists his extreme partisanship, it's
the resistor Rove calls the partisan. Rove is devoted to winning and power over
all else, and to the undemocratic notion of achieving a "permanent
Republican majority." But when someone resists his unconstitutional power
grabs, it's the resistor Rove labels as power hungry, unamerican, and
"trying to criminalize politics." Rove can credit his Utah influences
all he wants. But if you want to see his real political soul mates (whether
he's actually heard of them or not), look to legal theorist Carl Schmitt
and others in 1930s Germany.
Thomas | 11:03 a.m. Aug. 14, 2007
Interesting That Rove should be accused of excessive "partisanship" by
someone who has no problem associating his political opponents with Nazis.
My experience has been that liberals trot out the "Nazi" label at the drop of a hat, and have long before Rove or Mr. Bush appeared on the scene. "Partisanship" only became a nasty word when the "permanent Democrat majority" that had continued more or less unbroken since the 1930s was ended in 1994.
There are two sides to this game, folks.
My experience has been that liberals trot out the "Nazi" label at the drop of a hat, and have long before Rove or Mr. Bush appeared on the scene. "Partisanship" only became a nasty word when the "permanent Democrat majority" that had continued more or less unbroken since the 1930s was ended in 1994.
There are two sides to this game, folks.
Patti | 11:11 a.m. Aug. 14, 2007
Does Rove's fond look back on his first campaign built on "incredible
attractive girls...two on each arm" bother anyone else? The campaign
tactics were and remain superficial and play to rhetoric rather than substance.
Barry | 11:40 a.m. Aug. 14, 2007
The Darth Vader of an evil empire (presidency) if finally gone, a little too
late. This country will reel for decades for the misguidance, corruption, and
illegalities that this man and his arrogant boss entrenched themselves and this
country in. If there was ever a man who didn't understand the oath of
office, it is G.W. Bush, and those zealots who guided him every step of the way
to ruin the greatest nation on earth. May God, and all his minions help us
recover, and we will because we are a resilient people. Can we last another
fourteen months? That is the real question, and how many more families are going
to suffer great loss and tragic demise of their loved ones?
Grundle | 1:08 p.m. Aug. 14, 2007
Gee Barry...I am sooo glad you pointed out to all of us what a monster GW is!
Interesting though...we have a House and Senate full of political opponents of
GW and they don't seem to know all this really cool stuff you know, cuz
they are not pressing charges, doing investigations and having impeachment
votes. How stupid are they? And in an election cycle as well?? We should elect
you to congress so you can go and do the right thing!
Seems to me that there is far more to the situation that we find ourselves in that we are privy to. Sometimes you can gleen the content or makeup of "something" by the interactions within the environment that the "something" resides in. For whatever reason that Bush has taken us down that paths that he has, he has had (in the final act...) the cooperation of both the House and the Senate. Watch the softening of the anti-war stance by the political players in this election cycle...There is someting to be learned about our policies. As for surviving the next 14 months...I think we'll will get through it...somehow! :)
Seems to me that there is far more to the situation that we find ourselves in that we are privy to. Sometimes you can gleen the content or makeup of "something" by the interactions within the environment that the "something" resides in. For whatever reason that Bush has taken us down that paths that he has, he has had (in the final act...) the cooperation of both the House and the Senate. Watch the softening of the anti-war stance by the political players in this election cycle...There is someting to be learned about our policies. As for surviving the next 14 months...I think we'll will get through it...somehow! :)
RangerGordon | 1:20 p.m. Aug. 14, 2007
Ironically, in seeking that "permanent Republican majority" at any
cost, Rove destroyed the GOP and sold out any credibility it had as a party of
fiscal responsibility.
He may have ensured that there will be an ongoing majority of Democrats for decades to come.
He may have ensured that there will be an ongoing majority of Democrats for decades to come.
Anjum Azad | 1:26 p.m. Aug. 14, 2007
However, and moreover a continuation of a continuation did gain momentum for
reasons best known to God, therefore, not much can be said, but a happening in
the stage of world, so kept miraculously by the Creator for a Higher Purpose,
since mega events are Higher Purpose oriented, so man will keep on talking and
bickering. This is it. The bottom line. Nothing can be added, nor altered in a
chain of events the course of which stood already defined.
Lance | 1:37 p.m. Aug. 14, 2007
Wow, certainly a man who could evoke such strong opinions and abundant venom
from his opponents was a worthy adversary. The way people talk you would think
he was the leader of the communist party and this was the
1950�s.
I think the Darth Vader analogy is a good one. This is a man of great intelligence and vision and his focus and unrelenting pursuit of that vision became his downfall.
Also, I think his high school campaign was just a prelude to the strategy that got him into the white house. Through his entire career his tactics where disturbing (see: swiftboating) but they where effective, devastatingly effective.
I think the Darth Vader analogy is a good one. This is a man of great intelligence and vision and his focus and unrelenting pursuit of that vision became his downfall.
Also, I think his high school campaign was just a prelude to the strategy that got him into the white house. Through his entire career his tactics where disturbing (see: swiftboating) but they where effective, devastatingly effective.
Laytonian | 4:10 p.m. Aug. 14, 2007
Thomas and his NAZI slur: WHO trots out the "Nazi" slur at the drop
of a hat? The FIRST use of it here was YOURS, Thomas.
What you've just done is demonstrate how poisonous Rove was to this country. Throwing out baseless ad hominems when there's no argument to be made, is par for the course.
What you've just done is demonstrate how poisonous Rove was to this country. Throwing out baseless ad hominems when there's no argument to be made, is par for the course.
Sam | 7:23 p.m. Aug. 14, 2007
We have lots of cheese in Utah if any of the fleeing rats in Washington are
hungry. Let the band play on!
Lynn | 8:50 p.m. Aug. 14, 2007
The Darth Vader.... Can we last another 14 months...
Ain't it awful. I guess maybe Hillary will be the answer! Give me a break!
Ain't it awful. I guess maybe Hillary will be the answer! Give me a break!
Tom | 6:37 a.m. Aug. 15, 2007
Being in that age group, I don't think Rove actually won the election for
student body president at Olympus. Though a hard fought campaign, I think Brian
Moench, now a Utah radiologist and a liberal, served as SB president.
Christie | 3:45 p.m. Aug. 30, 2007
Maybe Rove just pretended to be SB president, the way he's been pretending
to be a Republican all this time
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