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Published: Friday, Aug. 10 2007 12:03 a.m. MDT

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Anonymous

Has The Mountain ever considered just selling a single channel satellite dish system for the mountain only.

It would be relatively easy to mount a dish next a currently installed one, run a parallel cable, put a switch at your current dish/direct TV interface and you have it.

New slogan - forget the rest.

Anonymous

Has the Mountain considered making their channel available on their website? Charge $5.95 a month to stream the channel live, that way you have exposure to the entire world at large with an internet connection.

Aaron

It is funny calling dish to request the mtn. They pass the phone around and no one--I mean--no one there has ever even heard of it. So, if you live in Oklahoma, like I do, you can just forget about BYU football.

Ray

This is a conflict of interest plain and simple. Comcast is a bunch of liers. They are never going to cut a deal with their competition (Direct TV/Dish). It will never happen. It is just bad business. They aren't negociating anything. Right now they have a monopoly and good business says keep it that way. What A Crock! BYU needs to pull out of this so called deal and do their own thing. They have the money and the recources to do their own tv production deal. The Church owns 2 transponders and numerous tv stations and mobile tv production facilities. They need to get on with it! Are you listening President Samuelson???????

Mark

BYU fans, one word - Slingbox. Get a friend in Utah County to hook it up to their cable connection and you can stream your own signal to your home over the Internet. I watched almost all of the BYU games last year. While satellite is better, Slingbox works great. No friends in Provo? Put an add in the local paper and pay a BYU student a few bucks a month and they'll be your friend for life.

D Nelson

The anger felt by local fans over the MTN is due to the popularity of satellite TV. As someone that has had Comcast, Dish, and DirecTV, I can state without hesitation that satellite is a much better way to get TV programming. Moreover, as a football fan I have DirecTV so I can also watch NFL Direct Ticket. DirecTV also offers several affordable add-on sports packages. Comcast or Dish offers nothing that even approaches this kind of coverage for professional football or sports in general. So to get football from the MTN and keep my NFL, I would have to add Comcast to my DirecTV service. Read: Expensive. Then there is the inconvenience of switching between my satellite and cable with my TIVO, etc. All which makes Comcast impractical.

I dont think I am alone in this boat. I would not surprise me that many BYU and Utah football fans are also fans of professional football and have the Direct Ticket service from DirecTV. Therefore, the MTN being on Comcast cable is the relative equivalent of the channel not existing in the first place. Until a deal is struck with satellite, DirecTV in particular, there will be plenty of unhappy football fans in this area.

I dont buy into the fact that Comcast is a cable company trying to protect a market share from satellite TV. Comcast owns several networks that are widely available on both satellite providers (the E network, Style, and Versus, amongst others). There is obviously an existing relationship between Comcast and the Satellite companies.

Comcast, as any good business model, wants to be diversified and have as broad a distribution for any property they own. Broad distribution is how they bring in the advertising dollars. The hiccup with the MTN has to be a matter of limited distribution offering (pay per view sports package), or that the MTN wants too much money. Something has to give, but I give the negotiating strength to the Satellite companies. The MTN needs satellite more than satellite needs the MTN.

Tom

Perhaps BYU should reconsider joining the WAC which it abandoned years ago. They have a very decent TV package with ESPN.

Matt

Yep, I think slingbox is the way to go. I've sat out one season now, I'm not going to do another. Even with the slingbox, MWC sports is still isolated from most of the country. It's no use to try and bring BYU, Utah, or TCU into football discussions in my area of the country (Washington State.) It used to be that those teams were in discussions of BCS busters.. but that has now shifted over to the teams that get the exposure on ESPN... Nevada, Boise St., and Fresno St. the WAC!

Oh well, when you've got an idiot like Craig Thompson running the conference what can you expect? I'll tell you what you can expect... the same publicity, exposure, and noteriaty that the Sunbelt conference gets... That's where Craig comes from, and he's convinced that he can bring the MWC the same type of "exposure." Well Craig, it's working!

For you readers... just name 1-3 teams in the Sunbelt conference off the top of your head. I can't do it. That's what you can expect from the rest of the country when they think about the MWC in about 2-3 years.

Manjay

Ray, BYU has no contract with Comcast. The Mountain West Conference does. Meaning, unless BYU pulls out of the conference, they are stuck until the contract expires.
You are correct about Comcast lying, however. Spanish Fork cable has more negotiating power than Dish and Direct TV? Yeah, right. This is about Comcast controlling the airwaves. Hopefully, other college conferences will get wise about this and refuse to deal with Comcast. I know I have.

Scott

After hearing Comcast's radio ads encouraging football fans to switch from satellite to their service, it's pretty obvious why there is no deal with Dish Network or DirectTV. The problem isn't the satellite companies accepting a deal. The problem is Comcast and the .mtn have no incentive to offer a reasonable deal to their competition.

David

I can't blame Comcast. Most of the anti-Comcast emails you'll see are from Dish subscribers. What about DirecTV not sharing the Big-1o channel or the NFL Sunday Ticket with cable or Dish Network? What about DirecTV initially not sharing MLB Extra Innings and taking an act of Congress (almost literally) to allow cable to pick it up. Furthermore on baseball, what about DirecTV demanding that the new MLB channel they own HAS to be on basic cable or no deal?

Similar deals are going around all the time. Get over your emotion and see that Comcast isn't the punching bag you think it is!

Scott

After hearing Comcast's radio ads encouraging football fans to switch from satellite to their service, it's pretty obvious why there is no deal with Dish Network or DirectTV. The problem isn't the satellite companies accepting a deal. The problem is Comcast and the .mtn have no incentive to offer a reasonable deal to their competition.

Piggybacking off Scott's comment

DirecTV tells people that their product is the only way to get NFL Sunday Ticket or NCAA March Madness, so what's the difference between that and Comcast saying they are the only way to get the mtn.?

As Scott Pierce says in his story, the landscape of TV is changing. If you'd rather have NFL Sunday ticket then mtn., you have that choice. if you'd rather have mtn., you have that choice too. We simply can't get everything we want right now.

Scott

After hearing Comcast's radio ads encouraging football fans to switch from satellite to their service, it's pretty obvious why there is no deal with Dish Network or DirectTV. The problem isn't the satellite companies accepting a deal. The problem is Comcast and the .mtn have no incentive to offer a reasonable deal to their competition.

Karen

The Mtn shows far too many BYU games anyway. What about all the other schools associated with the Mountain West Conference? They should rename The Mtn. BYU Sports TV.

Tyler

Living on-campus at BYU I'm able to enjoy the mtn., which is the ONLY reason I enjoy it at the moment. (The regular programming aside from games is pretty lame) Except for when I went home for thanksgiving, and forgot that the BYU/Utah game was only on CSTV/mtn. It took over 10 calls to different people in my ward to find someone who had either!

Aaron

First I want to say that I am very sympathetic to those who have no choice. However it gets really old listening to co-workers and other associates complain about the situation when all they have to do is switch to comcast. I did. And I didn't miss a single game last year, nope not one. The point is we switch cell phone providers, land line providers, internet companies, and just about anything else at the drop of a hat. So the question is... if you can switch and you haven't...why the @#$%^& haven't you.

Ken

I live in Dallas, which is an MWC TV market (TCU), and Comcast doesn't exist here. So I can't switch to get the mtn even if I wanted to. Needless to say, I have no love for Comcast. I have no doubt that if CSTV hadn't sold 50% of the mtn to Comcast, the channel would be on Dish and DirecTV already.

Scott

For the rest of us outside of the inter-mountain west, satellite is really our only option. I've called Comcast here in Tennessee and they people here have never heard of The MTN. Not only is Comcast refusing to negotiate in a way that will allow The MTN to be on satellite, Comcast refuses to put The MTN on its own systems!

Lee

I'm in Denver and have Comcast, so I'm able to watch the MTN. But when we lived in Utah, we weren't able to get cable in our subdivision and everyone had either Dish or DirectTV. We would definitely be frustrated if we were still there.

One complaint with the MTN, the picture quality is pretty crappy and pixelated. Sometimes you would miss parts of key plays as the picture would freeze and then quickly catch up. The old KSL-produced games were better than some of the games we saw last year. The MTN also precludes any chance of seeing a BYU or Utah game in hi-definition. At least with ESPN or network broadcasts that option was there. Only the bowl games were in hi-def last year.

I don't think a lot of thought was put into the decision to home grow a broadcast network...

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