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I was troubled by the time discrepancies that I saw in the film and subsequently in your article and others. Apparently the Fancher party entered the area in the spring of 1857 but the massacre didn't occur until September. Even so, the film specifies that the group was given "2 weeks" to rest their people and feed and water their cattle.
The film shows Bishop/General Haight leaving the area (Cedar City? Beaver?) telling his sons he'd be gone "2 days". The film depicts a meeting including Brigham Young and Haight. There was no possible way to get from Cedar City or Beaver to Salt Lake City and return in 2 days in 1857. Was Brigham Young in some location closer to the massacre scene? Not according to the history portrayed in the film or in the accompanying reviews.
I also agree that the movie tended to make the Mormons look very bad (most of them) and the Fancher party look very good. I'm sure it's easier to make the movie that way, but real life doesn't seem to work out that way. I can't imagine that the Fancher party could have done anything heinous enough to deserve having all their adults and children over 6 murdered, however.
For the record, I firmly believe that Brigham Young had full knowledge of the event and directed the church members to carry out his will upon the travelers.
Sadly, those who are true believers in the Mormon faith will never do any reasearch on the subject, unless they purchase a Church-approved book through Deseret Books. Instead, like the Mormons portrayed in the film, they will blindly follow the instructions of their church leaders. However, these same zealots will be the first to chastise and condemn those who speak the truth. Are you listening "Get a life" (the previous person posting a comment here)? This blind devotion (aka religious fanaticism) is the root cause of much of the world's strife, both past and present.
In summary, I strongly encourage all people of the Mormon faith to read and study church history, from non Church-sanctioned sources. Start with recent history, such as the Mark Hofmann case. You will truly be shocked and amazed by the actions of your leaders.
this isn't a mormon, jew or christian issue. the fact, is that people are flawed. the bishop (in the movie) was corrupt, broken, mislead...we need to understand that the problem is in man's portrayal of God and religion.
anyway, i liked the movie. definitely not a feel good movie but it does stir emotions.
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Haven't seen the movie but it's history in the past. The Mormons came through Missouri and founded Far West to build a temple. Farmers and MO. Gov. wasn't happy with the people and were told to leave. Mormons bought lots of Mo. land, so I spose Independence, Mo will be their heaven, that I hear.
Stay in Utah. Harry would turn over in his grave!!