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LDS-centric actor's new role may raise a few eyebrows

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Anonymous | 3:32 p.m. June 9, 2008
He is an actor doing his job...which is acting. Acting is all about doing things you don't normally do. Anyone remember John Lovitz character on SNL? "It's ACTING!!"

That being said, I hope all you self-righteous "Provo Mormons" that are harping on Mr. Heyborne for doing a beer commercial have thoroughly inspected all your retirement accounts to ensure that none of YOUR 401K money or mutual fund money is being invested in companies that don't support your Mormon beliefs.

Remember Kirby is trying to provide for his family too. I don't think that he is to the point where the studios are knocking down his door for work and he can pick and choose.
Re: To actor 2:35 p.m. | 4:04 p.m. June 9, 2008
The world is not everything LDS. If your kids have questions or express disbelief, then you need to explain about the real life world versus make-believe Hollywood---and use it as an opportunity to reinforce YOUR core values. I can�t speak for Kirby, but actors rarely become actors because they want to be role-models for your kids...that is YOUR job to set the example. This guy is just one of millions of actors; all, who like you, are just paid to do their jobs.


Anonymous | 4:10 p.m. June 9, 2008
I think that most who read this story probably don't care about the choices he has made or his right to make them. The place where most will be offended is in the fact that he set himself up and was viewed to be a standard bearer of LDS values. He was someone whom many people trusted that they could show to their children as a role model who exhibited the values that the parents subscribe to.

It is an issue to parents such as this because the consuming of alcoholic beverages is clearly against the values/teachings that we Mormons espouse. Appearing in a beer ad carries with it an implied endorsement of the product - whether or not he actually endorses it in real life.

If we, as parents trying to instil our LDS beliefs in our children, find that a role model has endorsed some behavior that we know we cannot accept - it results in a betrayal of our trust, and is a cowardly compromise of our values. It is worthy of our criticism.

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LDS Actors | 4:16 p.m. June 9, 2008
Katherine Heigle, Amy Adams, Paul Walker, the singer Jewel, and Snoop Dogg all have mormon roots. Oh wait a minute....maybe the latter was an April Fools Joke. At any rate, Mormons are taking over Hollywood!

As for Kirby, He needs to rewatch "The RM" and repent! Come back to Happy Valley Brother Heyborne.
Get over it and yourselves | 4:21 p.m. June 9, 2008
This is ridiculous. All the comments arguing about everything from "mormon grape juice" to "appearance of evil." It's a job and the job is to ACT LIKE SOMEONE ELSE (the character) on screen. He still LIVES as his beliefs dictate. Get it right... living and acting in a screen role are two very different things. And if you are so caught up in anti-mormonism, stop reading the articles meant for LDS. Grow up, get a life, worry about yourself instead of looking at and pointing the finger at others, move on. It's a happier place! Whether your are LDS or NOT.
Anonymous | 5:40 p.m. June 9, 2008
This is what happens when you associate with the unworthy. Come back to Zion my brother as it sound like California has corrupted you morals!
Still a KIRBY fan!!!!!! | 5:42 p.m. June 9, 2008
I myself may not have made this choice, but who am I (or any of YOU) to judge him!! If you are not his Bishop or his Stake President, then you don't have any right to tell him he was wrong!! He is a wonderful man, I have met him many times, spent time with him, heard him talk about his family, he is also an actor and he has to make a living. No one made this much fuss when he smoked (the herbal cigarettes) on Saints & Soldiers, all he did was pick up a beer, he didn't drink it, he didn't open it--get over it and move on. If you feel you need to judge someone, then look in the mirror and start there!
I for one support him. I will continue to see him when he comes to my town and I will always admire the man he is!
Anonymous | 6:18 p.m. June 9, 2008
I want my money back too! He wouldn't be where he is now if I hadn't bought the stupid movies he was in...especially Sons of Provo. Best two years was ok, but the others stank.
Give em a Break! | 6:39 p.m. June 9, 2008
Sometimes you have to do some things in your career that you really don't want to do, but in order to eat and have a roof over your head you do it. How many of you "good Mormons" or other "Christians" have worked on the Sabbath day? I have, and although I hate it (being an active Mormon father of 4) I occasionally have to do it to put bread on the table.

I trust that he and other Mormon actors will make the best decisions possible. I agree it is not right if you have enough money and but choose to act in an inappropriate part in the movies or commercials.

As for the person talking about Christ turning water into wine from 3:28 pm 6/9--you need to research your theology. The scriptures refer to "pure wine of the grape" which was unfermented wine--that's what Christ used in that instance. There was of course the fermented type used in his day but He did not use that.
Free Agent | 6:44 p.m. June 9, 2008
This bugs me almost as much as that new-fangled program the church introduced called Family Home Evening. First I'm told not to watch football on Sundays, and now Mondays are off limits too? What?...You say that setting apart Monday nights for Family Home Evening happened way back in 1970, so why am I bringing it up now??? Because this dumb article was first published two years ago, that's why! if you guys can regurgitate old news which wasn't newsworthy the first time around, I can bring up my old gripes as well!
Another Mark | 7:26 p.m. June 9, 2008
Amy Adams and Katherine Heigl were both "raised Mormon." Even if their hotties, it doesn't mean they'll be acepting primary callings anytime soon.

I didn't see the ad, but was it funny? Beer commercials are some of the funniest out there (like the guy-with-the-ax one a few years ago). For Kirby, it would make sense if it was a funny ad.

Re: Re:to rich; Christ may not have taught it was wrong to drink fermented wine in biblical times, but Jehovah definately said no to bacon...have you tried any pork recently? Temporal laws change buddy, get used to it....or rest on the Saturday and perform animal sacrifice. Your choice.
Gregg | 7:44 p.m. June 9, 2008
"...I eed Work on sundays to put food on the table...."


Puleees! there are family and ward members that could help you out. Please don't defend this issue. Stand up and sacrifice for the truth and virtue of the church not for your own selfishness!
Our mistake | 7:47 p.m. June 9, 2008
Maybe our mistake is taking actors, athletes, and other entertainment figures as role models for our children.
Someone once did a study of the literature of self-improvement and motivation from the past and found that years back, the stories we read and listened to featuring heroes to inspire us and our children were actually about people who had accomplished something for the genuine good of man, usually at some sacrifice to themselves. But about mid-20th century, that focus began to change to entertainment figures and people who had made lots of money, but not necessarily used it for good.
I NEVER encouraged my children to look to people from the entertainment world, the world of sports, and so on, for their role models. Many of them seem self-involved, greedy and lacking integrity as I understand it.
As someone who was involved in LDS theatre many years ago and who wrote a couple of LDS novels (that probably were more popular with non-LDS people), I'd love to see our people and our values shine in the world. I've been disappointed in the quality of much of our work--we can do better. And should.
Stonecasters | 7:54 p.m. June 9, 2008
To Judge @ 3:04pm -

In what way can "being disappointed in someone" and condemning them in a public forum be construed as a "righteous judgement"? You are using scripture as a means of justifying your own judgemental behavior. The implication is that you are the "good mormon" and your behavior is superior to his. Don't judge a man unless you've walked a mile in his shoes. Any scripture can be taken out of context. It just depends what you want to see or hear.
Stonecasters | 8:03 p.m. June 9, 2008
I get the feeling that many mormons are more anxious to judge/shun/demean others than to help them out.

People who are old/disabled/poor are targets of "service projects", while those who have honest struggles in living the mormon values are viewed as great examples of "why sinners aren't happy and should be looked down upon until they come into conformity" to use in sacrament meeting talks.

Remember how Jesus condemned hypocrites and healed sinners? Probably not.
why the fuss? | 10:44 p.m. June 9, 2008
President Faust supported the EVIL democratic party forever, a party that supports abortion, gay rights, and many other practices contrary to our LDS beliefs. I guess he lowered his standards too. Geez, I don't know if I can believe in this church anymore...
Anonymous | 11:53 p.m. June 9, 2008
I'm LDS and I don't even know who Kirby is! I've seen a few of those "Morm Flicks" and I couldn't care less who the actors are and if they are LDS or temple worthy or not...just like any other celebrity!
Thanks.
This really irks me... | 12:11 a.m. June 10, 2008
Everyone disappointed in this actor showing up in a Beer commercial. How many of you disappointed LDS members are overweight due to eating:

Too much meat, too many drive thru menus, too much soda pop, too many deserts aka refreshments?

How many of you could lose a few pounds on that Temple of yours by getting off your duff and exercising while eating wholesome foods? How many of you stay up past 10:30 when you have no reason to other than to entertain yourself?

How many of you look down upon those drinking beer (kind of like that mild drinks of malt we are encouraged to use as written in the Word of Wisdom), yet risk age related diabetes due to all the ice cream you pound each week?

This is a sad reflection on your modern LDS culture when appearing in a Beer commercial is considered letting our children down, yet your own example as parents is probably much worse in regards to all things word of wisdom.
missingink | 5:42 a.m. June 10, 2008
Personally, I didn't love the tone of the so-called LDS comedies he was in to begin with, so this doesn't come as too big of a shock. And if, as many here have argued, his acting roles should be viewed as disconnected from the way he lives his daily life, he should do well in Hollywood. If promoting beer sales in a TV commercial is not "verboten" for an LDS person, that what is? This reasoning gives him license to do anything on screen in the name of his supporting his LDS family, and I say, go for it, enjoy it while you can or in other words "Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die."
Theresa V | 6:29 a.m. June 10, 2008
It doesn't matter to me. I'm LDS and have done plays before where the character I play does things that I personally don't do. It's just acting, so I don't see why there's a huge fuss being made about Kirby's new role. He's just acting, that's all.
Jared | 6:57 a.m. June 10, 2008
Should an LDS actor ever take such a role as Don Giovani?
Homer Simpson | 7:09 a.m. June 10, 2008
Oooooohhhhhhhh.......Beeeeerrrrrrr.....aaaaaggggghhhhh
Have a cold one Kirby | 7:14 a.m. June 10, 2008
Lost his way - doing a beer commercial - how do you justify that - work must be so slow you compromise your principles.
Anonymous | 7:19 a.m. June 10, 2008
I find his acting the most offensive thing Kirby has done.
Film Graduate | 7:23 a.m. June 10, 2008
2003 was the year I graduated in film from the University of Utah. I'm also LDS. I'd say in the great and vast and nearly unfathomable plan of salvation, is not God the ultimate and the most and the greatest creative and the greatest artist and the greatest creator? Members of my same faith who gripe about the 'evil influence of media' need to either create and fund and produce and make profit producing alternatives using the media or stop their whining about how 'evil' the people are who produce it. Whether I'm a farmer or a garbage man or an actor or a doctor or a dentist or a writer who is LDS by the "Proclamation of the Family" as a man I have a responsibility to "provide the necessities of life". Some media answers to popular demand, other media does not. Popular demand is actually usually the G Rated stuff that the innocent sides of us are made of. We all have good and bad in us, and it's our individual standing with God that will save us or condemn us. We sift out our own salvation. I can only encourage you in gaining yours.
Anonymous | 7:49 a.m. June 10, 2008
"Remember how Jesus condemned hypocrites and healed sinners? Probably not." I agree with "Stonecasters" comments here. Sheesh. I am LDS and I love the gospel. I don't agree with being in a beer commercial, but at the same time, I think that the judgement is just as bad. Righteous judgement is when you are making choices for yourself, not to cast stones at others. I think there is way way way too much judgement in the LDS church and it is truly sad. That is nowhere close to what Christ taught. I think it can turn others away who are having a difficult time... I have seen it happen. Worry about yourself and stop worrying so much about what everyone else is doing. Or better yet, relax. Not your values, but your nitpicking of others, and worrying about every little thing. It is truly harmful and so not Christ-like. We are NOT here to judge each other, that is for Christ and ourselves on judgment day.
KLD | 7:55 a.m. June 10, 2008
It seems to me that if your going to feel disappointed in Kirby for his choices to support his family then I guess you need to feel disappointed about LDS professional atheletes for performing on Sunday, Marriot Hotels with their Bars and adult in room movies, Farmers for growing crops that might be used for something we don't agree with, people in the defense industry who might be called on to do things against the scriptures. The truth is none of us should judge, that awful responsibility belongs to another, and I am thankful for it. I am also thankful for all the work Kirby has done that I can admire and enjoy with my family.
Indiana | 8:08 a.m. June 10, 2008
Well, I have a simple and probably silly question. If this is 2 years old, what happened with the series? Was it at all successful? I don't think I knew about it 2 years ago. Interesting.

It seems we are comparing something 2 years old with brand new news...
I Second that question Indiana | 8:31 a.m. June 10, 2008
yep - All things aside if it came and went I don't know how many people out there even saw it! - I will say these people who vent off on Kirby probably don't offer competitive wages. When was this article written? -
Arizona | 8:55 a.m. June 10, 2008
We spotted Kirby on the beer commercial a few weeks ago and were very disappointed.

This is hardly the same thing as Steve Young promoting the NFL on Sunday. The NFL has not caused the death and injury of hundreds of thousands of our youth like alcohol has. It's blood money and Kirby is no longer an actor we will watch.

And, yes, we also think Marriott should get out of the porn business.
Eugene, OR | 9:03 a.m. June 10, 2008
Comments like these are why people laugh at Utah. Unless you guys are willing to chip in and pay his bills, you don't have much right to lecture Kirby on anything. This is the kind of stuff the vast majority of actors have to do to support themselves, and I have yet to hear the First Presidency condemn members for wanting to act for a living. I'm guessing that if he had played a murderer on a TV show, there wouldn't be anywhere near this "outrage."

As for the "what will our kids think" people, why not use this opportunity to get off your duffs and educate them about how to be in the world but not of it? It's not Kirby's job to raise your kids; his main obligations are to do a good job and support his family. How he does it is between him and the Lord, and it's frankly none of your business.
Shaunna | 9:15 a.m. June 10, 2008
Relax, folks. It was just Miller Lite. Now if it was a Budweiser ad, he'd be in the big league!

Samantha | 9:32 a.m. June 10, 2008
I took a film class from an LDS actor. Talk about a foul mouth - but you know what? I choose not to behave in the same manner. And, I learned about film from this person. I like the person.

I don't think LDS movies are the highest cinematic achievement. I enjoy some of the characters Kirby has (will) play. Do I "approve" of all his choices? Probably not, but I also don't approve of all my own choices. Life is a learning experience, let's help each other down the path.
Let it go! | 9:35 a.m. June 10, 2008
Since there is only one perfect person who has ever lived on this earth, I'm sure that every one of the rest of us has made some bad choices in life. I know I have, and I just hope that all of you who have made at least one bad choice in your life realize that it is not up to we mortals to judge anyone else. I personally am thankful that I don't have to judge anyone else because that is a huge responsibility and one that should be taken on only if you have walked in that person's moccasins - which, by the way, is impossible unless you have suffered and experienced all the sins and illnesses and heartaches and bad choices of every inhabitant of the earth as Christ has.

You may be disappointed in someone choices, but you have no right to judge that person. Let it go!
mp az | 9:39 a.m. June 10, 2008
You all need to lighten up - I'm LDS - the guy is an actor - repeat, an ACTOR. Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez! You all need a trip to the "mission field" - live in an area that has a Branch of about 23 members and 8 hours drive away from the closest temple. One can only make RM and Singles Ward movies for so long ... He is ACTING .... ACTING ...... Now if I saw video of him at a bar doing an interview with a smoke in his hand, I'd have a problem .... He's trying to make a living at his craft - ACTING. I wonder why people leave the church due to its uptight nature.
JW | 9:38 a.m. June 10, 2008
I totally agree with "This really irks me" & "I am still a Kerby fan" Goodness people get a life. I f you really want to be critical. Those of us who are writing these comments are 'idle' and could be doing something far more beneficial. Those whose kids are so shocked... take a teaching moment and explain what 'acting' is and how we all provide for our families in different ways. Even football players. I wonder, like "Irk" said if we will be judged for holding a beer can in a commercial any harsher than drinking a pop every day or for being 20 lbs overweight.
Quit wasting energy judging a person who has probably done a lot of good on and off the screen . How about dwelling on the good things he has done and quit making lds people sound so judgemental and narrow minded.
LDS DISAPPOINTMENTS? | 9:45 a.m. June 10, 2008
Think of all those LDS lawyers who take alot of money, knowing money is there, from people going through divorces? Capitalizing on a former couple's ability to save, they think it's feeding time (nasty sharks)! There are many different professions with many different LDS people behaving many different ways.
Rae | 10:14 a.m. June 10, 2008
The purpose of an ad is to promote a product- to push it's market sales and increase consumption. Kirby is endorsing Miller Lite and promoting it's use. Bottom line is he sold out to the almighty dollar. Unlike an acting part in a movie- he is promoting the use of alcohol for a commercial. As for Marriott and porn in his hotels, you bet it's the same thing. The almighty dollar is more important than sticking to values for some people.
Re: Rae | 10:25 a.m. June 10, 2008

I agree with your comment unless you consider that the dollar has the words, "In God We Trust" written on it. Do you have a more competetive offer for Kirby?
Brenda | 10:33 a.m. June 10, 2008
Actually, the comments are often more enjoyable than the articles and make for delightful reading. Keep it up!
Lynette | 10:50 a.m. June 10, 2008
I don't really care much about what Kirby does, although I have to say it is a little bit of a disappointment, but I would sure care if my son or daughter did a beer commercial. I've taught them better! When it hits closer to home, does it mean a bit more? Yes! I wonder if Mrs. Kirby feels the same?
Re: Brenda | 10:55 a.m. June 10, 2008
I'm jealous of the screeners who get to read this stuff all day! I know.
Utah Actor | 10:55 a.m. June 10, 2008
What does it profit a man if he gaineth the whole world but loseth his own soul?
Lynette N. | 11:13 a.m. June 10, 2008
This is the main reason why I didn't go into acting myself. You are faced with difficult choices in every step of your career and watched like a hawk by the media and movie goers (if you make it to the movies). If he can make it out unscathed, more power to him, but I do not envy his position at all. All of the judging would push me over the edge.
Renee | 11:21 a.m. June 10, 2008
Recognized even in South Florida!! I too saw the Miller Lite commercial last week as I was pedaling away on the stationary bike at the gym. Had to pick up my jaw off the floor when, at the end of the commercial, a scruffy-haired Kirby picked up a bottle of beer as he entered the bar behind his friend. I asked several of my friends if they had seen the Miller Lite commercial, only to be told I must have been seeing things...as such a pro-LDS actor would not be in a commercial promoting/advocating alcohol usage. While it is good to know that my vision isn't going downhill, it is so disappointing to see that perhaps he compromised his standards for fame - especially during a time when members of the church more than ever need to set appropriate examples, particularly in public forums.
Breck | 11:32 a.m. June 10, 2008
Hey, congratulations, Kirby. He is the funniest person I know personally. I would pay to watch him eat lunch, he is that funny. And a genuinely nice and thoroughly faithful guy. You who don't know his heart, don't presume to judge him.
Voice of Reason | 12:16 p.m. June 10, 2008
I refuse to judge Kirby for his professional choices, simply because I haven't walked a mile in his shoes.
It is true that I wouldn't do a beer commercial if I were an actor. However, a) I'm not an actor, and b) I'm also not trying to support a family as an actor in the white-hot-competitive environment of Hollywood, so I just can't judge the guy.

That being said, I wouldn't have any problem playing characters that don't hold my personal values, i.e. drinkers, sleeping around, etc. since it's ACTING . . . as long as a) I didn't actually have to literally drink or sleep around (sex scenes) on the screen for the part, and b) The movie/show/play didn't glorify or actively advocate values that are opposite of mine.

Kirby would probably say that's all easy to say . . . until you get to Hollywood. So I guess I'll avoid the place except for seeing some of their movies in the theatres.
Anonymous | 12:30 p.m. June 10, 2008
Breck | 11:32 a.m. June 10, 2008 said:

"Hey, congratulations, Kirby. He is the funniest person I know personally. I would pay to watch him eat lunch, he is that funny. And a genuinely nice and thoroughly faithful guy. You who don't know his heart, don't presume to judge him."

I agree with Breck's comment 110%! I love this discussion. It's very entertaining. Kirby is surely getting a kick out of it. I can imagine the smile on his face now.
Just me | 1:10 p.m. June 10, 2008
I must agree with Holy Cow! Reading this is downright comedic, although a bit disturbing as well. I am a devoted LDS mother who cares intensely about what is going on in our world, but this just isn't that important. How can so many people be so judgemental and narrow-minded? Oh my goodness gracious people....get a life! I'm embarrassed on behalf of my fellow church members who are so quick to judge others. That is infinitely more sad that Kirby being in a stupid beer commercial.
stayhomemom | 1:15 p.m. June 10, 2008
sounds kind of like....."I'm not a bad example--I just play one on TV."

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