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Utah Jazz: Sloan may toy with starting lineup
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A sprained toe? | 10:12 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Karl and John would have laughed that off.
Gutless Starters | 10:20 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Boozer and Okur together WILL NEVER WIN ANYTHING. Those two together represent
a layup drill for the other team.
As soon as Boozer is on the floor the other team just runs steady pick n roll involving him. They know what will happen--so do we. He seems mentally incapable of learning to defend it which translated means he won't make the effort.
Alternatively, Millsap has been a joke too.
Although Fesenko is not much offensively he INSTANTLY changes the game defensively. I saw multiple times where he altered shots that did not go in and I saw at least 2 different players dribble into the paint, saw Fess, and then turned around and dribbled straight back out.
When was the last time an opponent ever did that with Booz or Okur standing in front of them?
Never.
All opponents see with those two is a layup which they get uncontested repeatedly.
This team clearly does not believe they can win with Boozer on the floor. Most of them have quit playing any D they were all talking about in preseason.
It just does not work when ALL players are not committed.
This season is already a disaster.
As soon as Boozer is on the floor the other team just runs steady pick n roll involving him. They know what will happen--so do we. He seems mentally incapable of learning to defend it which translated means he won't make the effort.
Alternatively, Millsap has been a joke too.
Although Fesenko is not much offensively he INSTANTLY changes the game defensively. I saw multiple times where he altered shots that did not go in and I saw at least 2 different players dribble into the paint, saw Fess, and then turned around and dribbled straight back out.
When was the last time an opponent ever did that with Booz or Okur standing in front of them?
Never.
All opponents see with those two is a layup which they get uncontested repeatedly.
This team clearly does not believe they can win with Boozer on the floor. Most of them have quit playing any D they were all talking about in preseason.
It just does not work when ALL players are not committed.
This season is already a disaster.
Starting Lineup | 10:21 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
It isn't just the line up, we need to get a couple hard nosed players in
here to get these guys playing mean defense. Nobody is intimidated when they
drive to the basket against the Jazz. In fact, they are all thinking it is a
good way to get three points.
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I have been constructively | 10:22 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
critical of Sloan and the FO. He is finally forced into making some changes.
In defense of Sloan/FO I would like to make the following points. They view it all from a longer term perspective.
They know they will move Boozer one way or the other sooner or later. If they can get good play out of him in the short run so much the better.
They know CJ and Korver will heal. That will fix the zone problem.
However, the deeper problems such as NO back up PG, poor defense, PFs who are to short and coaching biases won't fix themselves. Only changes in players and maybe coaches will fix those.
In defense of Sloan/FO I would like to make the following points. They view it all from a longer term perspective.
They know they will move Boozer one way or the other sooner or later. If they can get good play out of him in the short run so much the better.
They know CJ and Korver will heal. That will fix the zone problem.
However, the deeper problems such as NO back up PG, poor defense, PFs who are to short and coaching biases won't fix themselves. Only changes in players and maybe coaches will fix those.
Jimm z | 10:25 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Sloan, call a timeout once in while, dont take a guy
out of the game when he is hot. And put Boozer, on the bench. Please
out of the game when he is hot. And put Boozer, on the bench. Please
Millsap will start but... | 10:25 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
I'm not sure that is going to do anything to help much other than he does
play better defense. That said he can't defend BIG's at all because
he is too short.
He gets some blocks but it is usually in help defense NEVER on his own man as they just "get into him" and shoot over the top.
I am no Locke fan but heard some of his stats on the radio yesterday before the game.
AK on the bench the Jazz are -24 against opponents.
AK on the floor the Jazz are +4 against opponents.
Sure that does not mean just leave AK on the floor 24/7 but what it does mean is they are completely defenseless when he is off the floor.
Just saying--we have to get some players on the floor who will defend or our lottery pick will be within one selection of the Knicks pick we are getting.
Kind of quandry though. We have to get Fess on the floor but we obviously lose offense when we do--he and AK are the only players we have that defend the paint at all.
He gets some blocks but it is usually in help defense NEVER on his own man as they just "get into him" and shoot over the top.
I am no Locke fan but heard some of his stats on the radio yesterday before the game.
AK on the bench the Jazz are -24 against opponents.
AK on the floor the Jazz are +4 against opponents.
Sure that does not mean just leave AK on the floor 24/7 but what it does mean is they are completely defenseless when he is off the floor.
Just saying--we have to get some players on the floor who will defend or our lottery pick will be within one selection of the Knicks pick we are getting.
Kind of quandry though. We have to get Fess on the floor but we obviously lose offense when we do--he and AK are the only players we have that defend the paint at all.
I still like the idea of getting | 10:25 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
some one like Alston who would solve the back up PG problem and also some of the
perimeter defense and outside shooting problem.
There may be better options than Alston but he would do the Jazz no financial harm and probably would instantly solve 2 immediate problems. He may be worth an extra 5-10 wins this season depending on DWill wear and tear.
There may be better options than Alston but he would do the Jazz no financial harm and probably would instantly solve 2 immediate problems. He may be worth an extra 5-10 wins this season depending on DWill wear and tear.
roy | 10:36 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
i think the jazz players are scared of sloan. he is so grumpy and scarry when
they go back to the bench no wonder they are under so much pressure to win. he
even complains when they win also.
Here's a suggestion | 10:50 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
PG: D-Will
SG: Wes Matthews
SF: Kirilenko (sad that he's the best option now)
PF: Koufos
C: Fess
My reasoning:
Yeah, we'll probably get the same result (losing), but atleast they would all play hard and be fun to watch, a la 2004 Jazz team. Wes Matthews is a better shooter than Brewer. Koufos and Fess will add a defensive presence, and HUSTLE. Basically, I'm sick of watching Okur, Boozer, Millsap and Brewer get a free pass because they have experience. None of them are producing this year, so why not try fresh blood?!
SG: Wes Matthews
SF: Kirilenko (sad that he's the best option now)
PF: Koufos
C: Fess
My reasoning:
Yeah, we'll probably get the same result (losing), but atleast they would all play hard and be fun to watch, a la 2004 Jazz team. Wes Matthews is a better shooter than Brewer. Koufos and Fess will add a defensive presence, and HUSTLE. Basically, I'm sick of watching Okur, Boozer, Millsap and Brewer get a free pass because they have experience. None of them are producing this year, so why not try fresh blood?!
EB | 11:03 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
RE: A sprained toe
Did John actually ever laugh?
He did, however, help the bigs against the post-up players.
Did John actually ever laugh?
He did, however, help the bigs against the post-up players.
Sokol | 11:09 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Put the fans out of their misery and dump all of these scrubs and bumbs...
Stupid | 11:19 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
I think the Jazz are lazy. Makin' all that money..whether they win or
lose. Boozer is the worst defensive player ever. Is is soft? Afraid of blocking
out or shutting down the lane. YUP! And Okur... not sure he knows which end of
the floor is which. Come on Jerry.. make some changes. We'd be happy with
EFFORT from your players!
Put a fork | 11:20 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
in Jerry Sloan, he is done. I guess he can make a lineup change, that is a good
way of blaming others for his incoherent and useless coaching.
Jerry, please do the honest and morally correct thing and walk away. Deep down you know that you offer nothing to the future of this franchise. If you really love this team and it's fans and city/state, then do the right thing and retire.
Jerry, please do the honest and morally correct thing and walk away. Deep down you know that you offer nothing to the future of this franchise. If you really love this team and it's fans and city/state, then do the right thing and retire.
KD | 11:22 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
The coaching staff should have had all these things figured out. It's like
when Phil Jackson replaced Dell Harris at LA, his coaching style was able to get
a bunch of egos to play together as a team. Nothing changed there, mainly just
the style of coaching. Sloan's done the Jazz so much good and he can't
ever be thanked enough. Bottom line though, we have the talent, someone's
just got to bring it out.
Hee's another suggeston | 11:30 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
PG: D-Will
SG: Brewer
SF: Korver, when healthy
PF: Boozer
C: Okur
Head Coach: Scott Layden or Frank Layden or Jeff Hornecek or John Stockton or Ty Corbin or Tom Nisalke or Hot Rod or Ron Boone or Gail Miller. ANYBODY BUT SLOAN.
My reasoning:
Sloan is poison to the immediate and long term success of this franchise.
SG: Brewer
SF: Korver, when healthy
PF: Boozer
C: Okur
Head Coach: Scott Layden or Frank Layden or Jeff Hornecek or John Stockton or Ty Corbin or Tom Nisalke or Hot Rod or Ron Boone or Gail Miller. ANYBODY BUT SLOAN.
My reasoning:
Sloan is poison to the immediate and long term success of this franchise.
Time for Sloan to go | 11:33 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Retire already. EVERY team in the NBA knows the Jazz's schemes and can
game plan without watching video of us. Clear out the coaching staff (except
for Ty Corbin, maybe) and let's get some fresh ideas in here. I'd
gladly take a hit over ditching Sloan than another 1st round loss with no
defense on star players.
Pick Your Poison | 11:42 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
I'm curious what us fans would prefer... including the Knicks' 1st
round pick with Boozer just to get a decent player in return (my wish would be
Bosh) or to hold on to that pick and hope we get a Bosh-type 4 in the draft?
What's your opinion?
Anonymous | 11:43 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
put brewer on the bench and bring out Matthews. from what i've seen, hes
played with more heart than anyone else on the team other than williams and
kirilenko
I agree | 11:45 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
,agree,agree and agree.
Tinkering with head coaching pos | 11:47 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
To bad we can not as a fan base just vote and get Sloan out of here. I had an
argument with a fellow season ticket holder if it is sloan's fault. He
thinks it is the players. Being a coach myself i know that it is my job and his
job to get everyone ready to play and motivated. He is a predictable joke who
needs to retire. Take you size 30 ego and ride off to your farm.
Glad that we... | 11:50 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
DID NOT re-sign Brewer for what he was asking.
Can you hear that in the distance? What is that sound?
CLANK!!!
Ya, that would be yet another WIDE OPEN UNCONTESTED BREWER JUMPSHOT.
It is just unsustainable.
Wide open and he misses more than he makes.
Conversely, we all cringe when our opponents get wide open looks because we know more often than not they make them.
It is not rocket science.
This team has serious personnel problems. There is nothing serious wrong with the coaching..we just have a bunch of players who can't/won't defend and can't score when left wide open.
No coach is suddenly going to make Brewer a shooter. Don't kid yourself. Good athlete but a shooting guard who can't shoot is not going to get the job done.
Every team we see just packs the paint.
We fluked into a win against the Knicks.
WHY?
AK hit his shots from outside. If he would have had just an average night we lose easily. It sure wasn't the defense that stopped the Knicks.
Can you hear that in the distance? What is that sound?
CLANK!!!
Ya, that would be yet another WIDE OPEN UNCONTESTED BREWER JUMPSHOT.
It is just unsustainable.
Wide open and he misses more than he makes.
Conversely, we all cringe when our opponents get wide open looks because we know more often than not they make them.
It is not rocket science.
This team has serious personnel problems. There is nothing serious wrong with the coaching..we just have a bunch of players who can't/won't defend and can't score when left wide open.
No coach is suddenly going to make Brewer a shooter. Don't kid yourself. Good athlete but a shooting guard who can't shoot is not going to get the job done.
Every team we see just packs the paint.
We fluked into a win against the Knicks.
WHY?
AK hit his shots from outside. If he would have had just an average night we lose easily. It sure wasn't the defense that stopped the Knicks.
The Truth | 11:51 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
If we aren't going to play D, then we might as well be Phoenix. At least
they play an interesting style of basketball and we have the point guard to do
it. When Korver and CJ get back, we will have the 3 point shooting and with AK
we have the quick powerforward. I like how after experimenting with Booz and
Memo together for like what 4 years, we finally need a change? you think! Fess,
Milsap,AK,Brewer,D-will should start and set the tone of playing hard. (Even
Boston, who could start Garnett and Wallace together, don't. They keep a
banger (Perkins) in their starting line up.) Booz and Memo should be paired with
either Fess or Koufos to keep more size on the floor but who knows Jerry will
probably do nothing???
@suggestion | 11:52 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
It is a start. Koufos plays defense and rebounds. Fez can play defense, rebound
and dunk. However, we need more offense. Maybe rotate a combination of Fez
Koufos Okur, Millsap and Boozer (depending on if Boozer/Millsap are playing
well). Try to keep Fez/Koufos paired with an offensive player.
Boozer seems to do better at C when combined with Millsap or Koufos at PF.
AK/Mathews are needed to open the inside game from the outside. They will have to be paired with Brewer from time to time as they can not play 48 minutes.
The biggest problem is PG. If DWill can't go or go well, AK may have to play point forward.
Maybe change the pace to super slow and use Fez Koufos on the inside. Make it a defensive struggle/slow down game? That would milk more minutes out of DWill, AK and Mathews.
Sloan is going to have to actually coach this game and that means make some adjustments for the players who are actually playing well and forget his usual rotations.
Sloan has always kissed Boozer (and most VETs). It is time he started playing people who will actually play hard.
Boozer seems to do better at C when combined with Millsap or Koufos at PF.
AK/Mathews are needed to open the inside game from the outside. They will have to be paired with Brewer from time to time as they can not play 48 minutes.
The biggest problem is PG. If DWill can't go or go well, AK may have to play point forward.
Maybe change the pace to super slow and use Fez Koufos on the inside. Make it a defensive struggle/slow down game? That would milk more minutes out of DWill, AK and Mathews.
Sloan is going to have to actually coach this game and that means make some adjustments for the players who are actually playing well and forget his usual rotations.
Sloan has always kissed Boozer (and most VETs). It is time he started playing people who will actually play hard.
Kevin in ther Terrace | 12:03 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Sloan making changes, bout time. Why not try to develope some of the newcommers.
HELLO NEXT COACH | 12:17 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Byron Scott, Hornets head coach just got fired, Sloan is next, just watch. Jazz
will be 3-7 after this road trip. Peace out Sloan.
jazzman 98 | 12:24 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Should start-
PG: Deron
SG: Korver
SF: CJ
PF: Boozer
C: Fes
This is the best "jazz" lineup. Excellent point guard, two shooting wings, a scoring power forward, and a big (hopefully defensive) center. Also the bench becomes very good here.
PG: Price
SG: Brewer
SF: AK
PF: Millsap
C: Memo
Sprinkle Kuf and Mathews in the mix, and I will take that 2nd team against anyones backups in the league. Both the starters and 2nd team have a good mix of talent and hustle and defense (relitively speaking).
PG: Deron
SG: Korver
SF: CJ
PF: Boozer
C: Fes
This is the best "jazz" lineup. Excellent point guard, two shooting wings, a scoring power forward, and a big (hopefully defensive) center. Also the bench becomes very good here.
PG: Price
SG: Brewer
SF: AK
PF: Millsap
C: Memo
Sprinkle Kuf and Mathews in the mix, and I will take that 2nd team against anyones backups in the league. Both the starters and 2nd team have a good mix of talent and hustle and defense (relitively speaking).
A coach can't | 12:39 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
force his players to play hard, all he can do is teach, encourage, and motivate,
then discipline players not doing their job, (Boozer, Memo, Brewer, Millsap...).
Sloan is one of the best. While all these other coaches win 20% of their games
and get fired in a season, he has won almost 70%, has 20 season's
experience, has been to the finals, and is a hall of famer. He's not the
problem. Phil Jackson would've dumped most of these guys in a second,
Sloan took em to the Western finals. how many Div or Conf championships have
you people won? now do it with a bunch of NBA rejects.
GoodGuyGary | 12:56 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
How about:
PG: Deron
SG: Mathews
SF: Brewer
PF: Millsap
C: Memo
and second unit:
PG: Price
SG: CJ
SF: AK
PF: Boozer
C: Fes
PG: Deron
SG: Mathews
SF: Brewer
PF: Millsap
C: Memo
and second unit:
PG: Price
SG: CJ
SF: AK
PF: Boozer
C: Fes
MyFriend | 1:09 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Start Memo at PF and Fes at center. Milsap and Boozer are backups unless
they're playing in nationally televised games. Maybe if Boozer gets benched
he'll come out mad enough to play some D.
Cowboy Joe to a coach can't | 1:26 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Slown has admitted that he isn't a motivator. The game has changed. Slown
is lost and the players need a motivated leader. Nobody claims that Slown is not
a great coach, but it's is time for a change.
Something needs to be done and replacing unmotivated players with different unmotivated players will still be a loss.
I hope the Jazz and Knicks both keep losing. Two top picks in the draft is way better than a one a done 8th seeed in the playoffs. Especially if the Jazz get a new coach.
Fire/Retire Slown please.
I predict Slown will be the next coach gone. Out of a job before Chirstmas.
Something needs to be done and replacing unmotivated players with different unmotivated players will still be a loss.
I hope the Jazz and Knicks both keep losing. Two top picks in the draft is way better than a one a done 8th seeed in the playoffs. Especially if the Jazz get a new coach.
Fire/Retire Slown please.
I predict Slown will be the next coach gone. Out of a job before Chirstmas.
re: A coach can't | 1:28 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
You have a valid point or two, but Sloan is NOT encouraging and motivating
during games. He sits on the bench with his mouth open and has the same lost
look on his face throughout the game. It is pathetic. Every player on that
team has been chosen by Sloan to be there. He is the true GM, and is the
problem. The "NBA rejects" on this team were signed and offered
extensions with Sloan's approval. The poor defense, especially interior D,
has been a problem for a few years now. This is the coach's job to
correct. This core of players have had plenty of time to respond. The ability
is there and if the coach can't bring it out of the players he has chosen
to be a part of his "system", then the coach has got to go. The
Celtics are an old team and ran laps around the Jazz. The NBA game has evolved,
Sloan has not.
Blow it up! | 1:31 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
We have a point guard and a very good back up power forward (Millsap). Our team
is embrassing. Anyone who thinks the Jazz are contenders needs to be honest
with themselves (Last night it was obvious. We are never going to get a ring
with this group! We need to start building with D-Will. Please don't let
me watch Boozer give opponents lay up drills, while Okur appears to help out
with 15 lbs weights tied to each foot. This team is medicore at best. It was
fools gold when we made it to the WC finals, because Dallas Choked. Let's
start it over with the help of the Knicks and move on with life. I can't
stand to see Denver and Portland get it together while we bet the farm on these
clowns. People in this group have no loyalty to the Jazz (they just want a
check)= AK, Boozer. How Can we give a max contract to a guy that can't
even make it on the All Star Ballot (AK). This franchise has truly went down
hill.
magnus | 1:37 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
What about this for a starting lineup...
PG: Williams
SG: Matthews
SF: AK
PF: Millsap
C: Fesenko
Matthews and AK have been shooting it well enough from outside and I think this group would be good defensively.
or this...
PG: Williams
SG: Brewer
SF: AK
PF: Okur
C: Fesenko
I would really like to see Fes and Okur on the court together more. They havent used it much this year but when they have it has been effective. This is probably the starting lineup I'd like to see most right now.
PG: Williams
SG: Matthews
SF: AK
PF: Millsap
C: Fesenko
Matthews and AK have been shooting it well enough from outside and I think this group would be good defensively.
or this...
PG: Williams
SG: Brewer
SF: AK
PF: Okur
C: Fesenko
I would really like to see Fes and Okur on the court together more. They havent used it much this year but when they have it has been effective. This is probably the starting lineup I'd like to see most right now.
Change Millers Change! | 1:40 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Why not do what New Orleans just did and fire the coach and his staff? Phoenix
has done the same thing in recent years and look at them now, also they have
dumped player after player forever and always come back contending. This status
quo thing is over bearing and needs changing RIGHT NOW! I'm sick of lame
excuses. Get new management including this so-called GM we have out of here,
along with new coaches unwanted players and lets compete again.
The Truth | 2:13 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
People need to stop bagging on AK for his contract. When the Jazz signed him to
that deal they had him as their cornerstone player, the guy they were going to
build around. Then they did a complete turn around and since then the Jazz have
been playing him at the 3. That's not his position, especially in the Jazz
offense. That's why after leading Russia to the Euro championship at the 4
spot AK was so unhappy. The Jazz have him guarding people on the perimeter, not
necessarly his strength, instead of providing some shot blocking inside like
Booz is doing? yeah right. AK take the jazz money, that's what they get for
playing you out of your natural 4 spot. I'm hoping that the Jazz trade you
to a team that runs....so I can watch the AK of old.
stockton, malone, barkley | 2:17 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
people i think would be great coaches for the Jazz...John Stockton...having the
greatest point guard in the history as your coach is alone a motivator..mix that
with his never winning a championship (everyone would play for him) and he is a
born leader and a firey leader!!! Karl Malone...i think karl would do the same
as Stock and wouldnt it be great to see footage of practice and seeing karl
malone get so P.O'd at booz that he gets in the action and
"show's" Boozer how to play the game of basketball?!?! and last
but not least...Charles Barkley...i would just love that because the jazz are
already downhill and to have a coach that you would barely be able to understand
stomping up and down the court that would be awesome!!! Barkley has a love for
the jazz and actually in my opinion would be a great coach! would make a great
motivator...(oh i say even look at Jeff Hornecek...wouldnt hurt) they would all
do better than the outdated style of play by Jerry Sloan...sorry Sloan...i love
ya man...but its time to go
Managing Egos | 2:34 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Part of being an NBA coach is managing Egos. Another part is managing the
game.
Before Boozer got hurt this was his team to some extent and it reflected his mood swings. After he was out for ever the team moved on and it became DWill, Okur and to some extent Millsap's team. With Boozer back the chemistry leadership is unsettled (at best).
Things are so bad right now Sloan does not need to worry about Egos. He has and needs to worry about keeping the right combinations on the floor at all times in spite of having limited options.
The Jazz are desparate for this win. Who starts is not relevant. What is relevant is keeping a combination of players on the floor who maximize the net score. Sloan will have to constantly change the mix of players to both maximize scoring and defense all night in order to win.
In my opinion that is what he should have been doing for several years instead of just running his preset rotations by the clock.
It is long past time for Sloan to scrap his Vet bias and ego management and actually coach the game to win.
Before Boozer got hurt this was his team to some extent and it reflected his mood swings. After he was out for ever the team moved on and it became DWill, Okur and to some extent Millsap's team. With Boozer back the chemistry leadership is unsettled (at best).
Things are so bad right now Sloan does not need to worry about Egos. He has and needs to worry about keeping the right combinations on the floor at all times in spite of having limited options.
The Jazz are desparate for this win. Who starts is not relevant. What is relevant is keeping a combination of players on the floor who maximize the net score. Sloan will have to constantly change the mix of players to both maximize scoring and defense all night in order to win.
In my opinion that is what he should have been doing for several years instead of just running his preset rotations by the clock.
It is long past time for Sloan to scrap his Vet bias and ego management and actually coach the game to win.
Scott is actually a decent | 2:49 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
coach. Sloan had better watch his back. Greg might be more of a businessman that
some people think.
When you have a team that is this disfunctional and Sloan has made all of the decisions in the last 3 years it is pretty obvious who you hold accountable.
What ever you do DON'T hand the team to Phil. He can't run it better than Sloan. Corbin or Layden, maybe?
When you have a team that is this disfunctional and Sloan has made all of the decisions in the last 3 years it is pretty obvious who you hold accountable.
What ever you do DON'T hand the team to Phil. He can't run it better than Sloan. Corbin or Layden, maybe?
Re: the truth.... | 2:54 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
you are speaking the truth. it about time somebody points out AK's worth
to our team. yeah he got a big contract, and he deserved it to. its not his
fault he went from filling the stat sheet up at the 4 and then the next year we
sign loozer to play 4. AK got it big time. he is so awesome at 4 it boggles my
mind that he doesnt play there. he is a decent enough shooter that any 4 in the
league would have to respect that and he would be able to drive on any 4 as
well. defensively it keeps him low to contest shots. if we are all fed up with
boozer and milsaps play of late, lets put AK at the 4 and watch him put up his
all-star numbers again. boozer has to go. i dont care where, just not on the
court.
blauch | 3:02 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
2 season was the Jazz's best season. The team had a great record and strong
+/- of +565 points against opponents an average margin of victory was +6.9 per
game. The Jazz had the 2nd beat offense in the NBA. Almost every lineup the
Jazz used was sucessful. Williams, Brewer, AK, Boozer and Okur started and they
were actually one of the most unproductive lines ups - even though they played
almost 1000 minutes they had a +/- of 78. When we subbed Millsap for either
Boozer or Okur that season with the same other 3 players the Jazz +/- was over
100 and they only played together under 400 minutes.
The next season the Jazz substituted AK for Miles and the next season the Jazz's +/- was about -18 for over 700 minutes. Now Boozer was injured so during that time the Jazz Millsap played in that lineup.
The point is Boozer and Okur cannot be successful together. You need one defensive big man. Sloan cannot make them play defense.
The Jazz need to trade either Boozer for a small forward so we can have AK back play PF some times and get Fess more minutes
The next season the Jazz substituted AK for Miles and the next season the Jazz's +/- was about -18 for over 700 minutes. Now Boozer was injured so during that time the Jazz Millsap played in that lineup.
The point is Boozer and Okur cannot be successful together. You need one defensive big man. Sloan cannot make them play defense.
The Jazz need to trade either Boozer for a small forward so we can have AK back play PF some times and get Fess more minutes
Anonymous | 3:04 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
I think its time for Slon to go
Anonymous | 3:08 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
I agree I think its time for Sloan to go and bring in a fresh face
From Bobby Bowden | 3:29 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
I think Jerry Sloan is too old to coach in the NBA. Sure he had some nice years
in the '90s, but his time has passed.
Tired of the same old same old | 3:33 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
IS anyone really surprised that when the Jazz are basically the same team team
as last year that nothing changed??? Sloan should man-up and retire. He must be
delusional to think what he's doing is working. Here's what needs to
be done:
1-Sloan out(Take a hint from New Orleans..)
2- Take Boozer and Okur with him or bench them.
3- Get a shooting guard who can shoot
4- Hire Jeff Hornacek to coach
5- The Utah press need to quit making excuses and actually report the sports news and quit kissing up to the Millers
6- Keep praying the Knicks are as bad as the Jazz
1-Sloan out(Take a hint from New Orleans..)
2- Take Boozer and Okur with him or bench them.
3- Get a shooting guard who can shoot
4- Hire Jeff Hornacek to coach
5- The Utah press need to quit making excuses and actually report the sports news and quit kissing up to the Millers
6- Keep praying the Knicks are as bad as the Jazz
Anonymous | 3:33 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
TIME FOR SLOAN TO "TOY" WITH A TRACTOR IN ILLINOIS. IT IS TIME TO HANG
EM UP JERRY! PLEEEEEEEZE!
Phnehme | 3:54 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Boozer needs to go. I don't think there is another player in the league
that is as soft, with absolutely no defensive ability. He knows he has the jazz
over a barrell, so why try? Bury him on the bench until they can unload him for
another expireing contract. AK needs to move back to the 4, Fes needs to start
at center. Okur can back up the 4 and the 5 depending on match ups. Given his
play Mathews should start and Brewer should be the back up. Hey here's a
real novel idea....how about giving out playing time based on performance rather
then paycheck.
Tractor Rumblings | 3:56 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Heard in Illinois. John Deere tractors.
my 2 cents | 3:58 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Since were playing Coach here, how about
Starters:
PG: DWill
SG: Mathews
SF: AK
PF: Memo
C: Fez
you could have a rotation of big men for the 4/5 depending on matchups, and soon as Korver/Miles are healthy, nice depth at the wings.
I believe that starting line-up is the best combo of Offense & Defense.
What do you all think?
Starters:
PG: DWill
SG: Mathews
SF: AK
PF: Memo
C: Fez
you could have a rotation of big men for the 4/5 depending on matchups, and soon as Korver/Miles are healthy, nice depth at the wings.
I believe that starting line-up is the best combo of Offense & Defense.
What do you all think?
Stop Stealing | 4:02 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Jerry, please stop stealing money from the Miller family. They have already
taken a hit in the car business. They are better off investing the 7 million a
year with Bernie Maddoff.
Headline soon to read | 4:14 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Miller about seen enough of this irresponsible mess. Ready to toy with
management and coaching change.
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