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Dick Harmon: The BCS sure won't fix itself
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rvalens2 | 2:13 a.m. July 5, 2009
Bring on the Playoff and make it 16 teams!
11 conference champions and 5 at large bids. That way no conference can ever claim that it was LEFT OUT AGAIN!
11 conference champions and 5 at large bids. That way no conference can ever claim that it was LEFT OUT AGAIN!
Right-- | 3:11 a.m. July 5, 2009
Yeah, Hatch will fix it--- He'll get Teddy Kennedy and Bobby Bennett to
work with him and when the election is over you'll never hear another word
about this..... Hatch is deceptive to the core...
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BYU loves to play the Blame Game | 5:52 a.m. July 5, 2009
Either the BCS is a fraud, or it is not. If it is a biased fraud, and Utah
broke the BCS twice, then that is all the more impressive for the U which busted
the BCS twice.
If it is not a fraud, then the only problem is BYU has no one left to blame but themselves.
If it is not a fraud, then the only problem is BYU has no one left to blame but themselves.
Minerman | 6:25 a.m. July 5, 2009
THANK YOU!!! I'm so tired of people saying how this isn't something
that congress should get involved in. Do people understand that this is a
multi-billion dollar BUSINESS? If there was no money inolved then congress
wouldn't care. But the plain and simple fact is that hundreds of millions
of dollars every year are automatically given to businesses because of their
affiliations, not their fair business practices. I don't see anyone getting
upset when congress interferes insurance or banking, but there's something
that's sacred about the money given/taken in college football? Good for
Sen. Hatch.
Just a thought | 6:46 a.m. July 5, 2009
It's just a game!!
It's a playground and now you want Daddy to come out and say, "You won't let Johnny play? That's not fair?" Who set up the BCS? Let them invite who they will. Do you want the government telling you who to hire, fire, come to your church or club? Leave government out of it!!!!!!!
It's a playground and now you want Daddy to come out and say, "You won't let Johnny play? That's not fair?" Who set up the BCS? Let them invite who they will. Do you want the government telling you who to hire, fire, come to your church or club? Leave government out of it!!!!!!!
Eugene | 7:08 a.m. July 5, 2009
Great article and I support your thoughts 100%.
I hadn't thought of this issue the same way as the AF coach, but it certainly rings true.
It wouldn't surprise me if the BCS and its elitist conferences have or will begin making political contributions to members of Congress in an effort to buy votes in their favor.
In the next decade, will we even be able to recognize our country for the freedom's we use to enjoy. BCS, Obama and the democrats are on agenda to destroy every principle of freedom, fairness and equal protection that this country has worked over 200 years to obtain.
Wakeup, America, the life we used to know is degrading to socialism and elitism as we speak.
I hadn't thought of this issue the same way as the AF coach, but it certainly rings true.
It wouldn't surprise me if the BCS and its elitist conferences have or will begin making political contributions to members of Congress in an effort to buy votes in their favor.
In the next decade, will we even be able to recognize our country for the freedom's we use to enjoy. BCS, Obama and the democrats are on agenda to destroy every principle of freedom, fairness and equal protection that this country has worked over 200 years to obtain.
Wakeup, America, the life we used to know is degrading to socialism and elitism as we speak.
Anonymous | 8:26 a.m. July 5, 2009
RE: BYU Loves ....
There always has to be the paranoid Utah fan who makes some such ridiculous remark. Why not just stand up for what's right for everyone (including the Ute's who deserved better treatment last year). Get a life!
There always has to be the paranoid Utah fan who makes some such ridiculous remark. Why not just stand up for what's right for everyone (including the Ute's who deserved better treatment last year). Get a life!
Milt Lausten | 8:59 a.m. July 5, 2009
Let the fans of college football take it up on themselves to fix the problem.
Stop attending games. That'll get their attention. Congress, somehow, will
make it worse.
RockOn | 8:59 a.m. July 5, 2009
Agree 100%, Sir Richard. It is NOT just a game. The livelihood of hundreds of
thousands of people are effected. Government is to ensure equal protection under
the law. That's the extent they should be involved. OPEC is improper. So is
the BCS. It is unAmerican and Dick is right... it's tantamount to a refuge
from the Soviet state.
History nut | 9:25 a.m. July 5, 2009
The broader issue is why universities fund athletics in the first place.
Don't try to tell me it is an academic subject.
Balance of power | 9:50 a.m. July 5, 2009
People often scream NO GOVERNMNENT or MORE OVERSIGHT! But our government was
established on three core principles that, if we remember, bring these issues
into a clear light: equality, representation and balance. Does the BCS violate
these principles?The answer to that question is the answer to whether or not
Congress needs to intervene in this issue.
CJ3 | 10:12 a.m. July 5, 2009
Milt is right.
Stop supporting the ONLY sport that doesn't give every participant a shot at the whole enchilada and the fat cats will be forced to do the right thing.
It killed me to not watch the Utes beat down Bama (when rightfully they should've been playing Urban's boys), but I made a commitment to stop feeding the greed, and followed through.
It's on you, the people, especially if you don't want the gov involved.
Stop supporting the ONLY sport that doesn't give every participant a shot at the whole enchilada and the fat cats will be forced to do the right thing.
It killed me to not watch the Utes beat down Bama (when rightfully they should've been playing Urban's boys), but I made a commitment to stop feeding the greed, and followed through.
It's on you, the people, especially if you don't want the gov involved.
wow | 10:12 a.m. July 5, 2009
So many months have passed and you are STILL complaining about a freaking game?
People are dying in Iran.. there are more and more people out of work every day
and you complain about the BCS? Get a grip on reality.. there are bigger things
than the BCS leaving UTAH out of their game?!?!?
Anonymous | 11:06 a.m. July 5, 2009
Hatch won't trigger anything. This has been talked about for a long time,
and if he was truly serious, he would introduce legislation and push it rather
than try to make political hay with it. Walk the walk, Orrin.
CJ3 | 11:20 a.m. July 5, 2009
Wow,
It's not the "game" that bothers me.
It's the principal of elitest exclusion that's at the heart of the matter.The same could be said of health insurance, or the fight for fuel, or lobbiests for corporate favoritism.
The BCS is simply another sign of the times.
It's not the "game" that bothers me.
It's the principal of elitest exclusion that's at the heart of the matter.The same could be said of health insurance, or the fight for fuel, or lobbiests for corporate favoritism.
The BCS is simply another sign of the times.
Anonymous | 11:30 a.m. July 5, 2009
Mommy, I didn't get my way. We need nanny government to make it fair. lol.
Utah the land that loves federal dollars but hates the federal government wants
the government to act.
What didn't the free market work? You don't like balance sheets now?
If you don't like the BCS quit. You can form another business model.
What didn't the free market work? You don't like balance sheets now?
If you don't like the BCS quit. You can form another business model.
BCS is a Monopoly | 11:45 a.m. July 5, 2009
In the beginning, College football was a "free enterprise" system. A
small school was allowed to compete and become known "Notre Dame". But
college football evolved to where the “money” conferences
“controlled” the college football scene. The NCAA National
Championships were bestowed upon the survivor of the regular football season
with the highest poll rankings (AP and UPI) after the bowl season was completed.
The bowl assignments were awarded by conference collusions/contracts with
certain bowls.
In 1984 BYU won the National Championship following the “rules of the game”. When given their choice, play National Champion BYU or score big bucks in the Orange Bowl; Washington followed the BCS model; "go for the money". It is always about the money; money and control.
Suddenly, it was a new world. The monopoly stewarts saw a new world on the horizon. They foresaw a free enterprise with TCU, Boise State, Utah, and BYU winning future national championships. They foresaw losing recruits, money, prestige, and power.
What to do? Their answer was to corner the market; create and control a monopoly; thus the BCS was born. Remember, when it acts and quacks like a duck (or a Monopoly); it is.
In 1984 BYU won the National Championship following the “rules of the game”. When given their choice, play National Champion BYU or score big bucks in the Orange Bowl; Washington followed the BCS model; "go for the money". It is always about the money; money and control.
Suddenly, it was a new world. The monopoly stewarts saw a new world on the horizon. They foresaw a free enterprise with TCU, Boise State, Utah, and BYU winning future national championships. They foresaw losing recruits, money, prestige, and power.
What to do? Their answer was to corner the market; create and control a monopoly; thus the BCS was born. Remember, when it acts and quacks like a duck (or a Monopoly); it is.
The BCS | 12:12 p.m. July 5, 2009
"Did you guys hear something? Me neither. HEY! Look at that elephant
climbing that mountain...is that a clover he's holding?! Ah-hahahahaha!!! I
mean, mu-ah-hahahaha!"
Scoobie | 12:12 p.m. July 5, 2009
Kramer never got involved til after The Big 10 commissiner had already called
the Rose Bowl on the Carpet for not wanting to jeoporadize it's status as
the Grandaddy of them all. The concept of a Bowl Allience came out of the Big
10... and not the SEC. The Rosebowl drug it's feet despite the PAC 10
Commissioners agreeing to forming an Alliance. When the PAC 10 made that move
then that is when the SEC first saw the inevitable...and Kramer being a bright
and astute thinker came onboard with a lot of additional ideas and input...but
the concept was already well on it's way before his entrance into the mix.
The Rose Bowl after not originally going with the original concept eventually
saw the writng on the wall too and joined even later after realizing that they
had no real choice but to stick with the Alliance....The TV networks were also a
major factor in convincing the Rose Bowl committee that it would be good for
everyone all around within the Alliance.
jbra80 | 12:26 p.m. July 5, 2009
re: eugene
Amazing how this article can turn into a shot at the President. I guess Bush was doing a better job, right? For the record, Obama's only been in office since January! And isn't the BCS more of a republican 'big business' type of thing anyway? Seems like it to me.
Political affiliations aside, great job Senator Hatch.
I agree with the article, and I think the Government should step in. Especially if the NCAA is scared to do anything. Like Minerman said "Do people understand that this is a multi-billion dollar BUSINESS?"
Amazing how this article can turn into a shot at the President. I guess Bush was doing a better job, right? For the record, Obama's only been in office since January! And isn't the BCS more of a republican 'big business' type of thing anyway? Seems like it to me.
Political affiliations aside, great job Senator Hatch.
I agree with the article, and I think the Government should step in. Especially if the NCAA is scared to do anything. Like Minerman said "Do people understand that this is a multi-billion dollar BUSINESS?"
Re: wow | 10:12 a.m. | 12:39 p.m. July 5, 2009
You could not be more incorrect. IF the BCS is determined to fraudulent,
monopolistic, or whatever the case may be, it is the RESPONSIBILITY of our
elected officials to take the necessary action. Yes it is just a game and in
the grand scheme of things, who cares. But a violation of the law needs to be
addressed regardless of what it is. Allowing such an issue to remain unchecked
sets a precedent.
Scoobie | 12:45 p.m. July 5, 2009
Kramer a former Coach at Central Michigan and Vanderbuilt went on to be the
Commissioner of the SEC. He oversaw the successful enlarging of the conference
from 10 teams to 12 and he's also a top notch Lawyer smart enough to lead
the SEC in a successful anti trust case against the NCAA freeing up conferences
and individual schools to be able to negotiate their own TV contracts with the
major networks. He would become the major spokesperson for the Bowl Alliiance
and would help to finalize what the BCS would become in 1998 but he is not the
originator nor the implimentor of the original Bowl Alliance concept.
BYU Fan | 1:09 p.m. July 5, 2009
The BCS is just a bunch of greedy, money hungry power brokers... I want in on
that too!
RED | 1:29 p.m. July 5, 2009
People from the "REDDEST" of RED STATES are begging for GOVERNMENT
INTERVENTION?
YIKES!
YIKES!
Huh? | 1:45 p.m. July 5, 2009
So the B(C)S is elitist and greedy and not fair to the "smaller"
conferences. So lets spend all this time and money and try to get into it? Makes
no sense. But I guess if the bully won't stop picking on ya you become a
bully too, right?
Not just a game | 1:57 p.m. July 5, 2009
Some casual observers may think it's simply a game, but anybody who has
paid serious attention to college football for the past 30 years knows that
major college football is BIG BUSINESS, as big as some Fortune 500 companies.
As such, the government has an obligation to ensure that monopolistic business practices are not allowed to continue.
Juvenile posters who want to bury their heads in the sand and pretend that college football is simply a game either don't understand, or refuse to acknowledge the reality, that major college football is, and has been for a long time, ALL ABOUT MONEY!
As such, the government has an obligation to ensure that monopolistic business practices are not allowed to continue.
Juvenile posters who want to bury their heads in the sand and pretend that college football is simply a game either don't understand, or refuse to acknowledge the reality, that major college football is, and has been for a long time, ALL ABOUT MONEY!
Alabama | 2:35 p.m. July 5, 2009
Is Glen Tucket still Athletic Director at BAMA? If he is, then he should stir
things up and why not U. Myer of Florida?
Man, this is getting really old and it will never go away or get fix.
Oh yeah, so you Utards telling BYU is all their fault that we won the NC? Get a life! Would love to see them win the NC too but didn't happen which was a shame. Those voters don't know what they are suppose to do. Start the 16 team playoff!
Man, this is getting really old and it will never go away or get fix.
Oh yeah, so you Utards telling BYU is all their fault that we won the NC? Get a life! Would love to see them win the NC too but didn't happen which was a shame. Those voters don't know what they are suppose to do. Start the 16 team playoff!
Scoobie | 3:10 p.m. July 5, 2009
REF: ALABAMA
Get real... You'll never see a 16 team playoff in Div I... it would ruin College Football It's much easier to run a 64 team NCAA Basketball Tournament than to try and break all the conference ties to the Major bowls and pull off the logistics of playing 15 games for a playoff. Even an 8 team playoff requiring 7 games would be a major problem and is too big of a bone for the BCS to be forced into Swallowing.
What is needed is a way to address the Non BCS undefeated issue first and then a 3 game playoff between #'s 1,2,3&4 The undefeateds (...dependant on how many...) play to see where in the 1,2,3,4 rotation they wind up. A fifth rotational bowl with two additional at large births would be a good way to handle this pre final selection playoff. The ideal additional Bowl which could geographically and traditionally fill the void is the Cotton Bowl. This would be an Ideal compromise.
Glenn Tuckett by the way only filled that position as an interim A. D. it was not a permanent move.
Get real... You'll never see a 16 team playoff in Div I... it would ruin College Football It's much easier to run a 64 team NCAA Basketball Tournament than to try and break all the conference ties to the Major bowls and pull off the logistics of playing 15 games for a playoff. Even an 8 team playoff requiring 7 games would be a major problem and is too big of a bone for the BCS to be forced into Swallowing.
What is needed is a way to address the Non BCS undefeated issue first and then a 3 game playoff between #'s 1,2,3&4 The undefeateds (...dependant on how many...) play to see where in the 1,2,3,4 rotation they wind up. A fifth rotational bowl with two additional at large births would be a good way to handle this pre final selection playoff. The ideal additional Bowl which could geographically and traditionally fill the void is the Cotton Bowl. This would be an Ideal compromise.
Glenn Tuckett by the way only filled that position as an interim A. D. it was not a permanent move.
Re: Alabama | 2:35 p.m. | 3:36 p.m. July 5, 2009
"Oh yeah, so you Utards telling BYU is all their fault that we won the
NC?"
Hugh? Come back when you better understand the issue, sister.
Hugh? Come back when you better understand the issue, sister.
Anonymous | 4:00 p.m. July 5, 2009
Let's say there are no BCS undefeated teams but there are 2 undefeated non
BCS teams both of who are ranked high enough in the end of Regular season BCS
poll to earn the right to an at large birth. With an additional bowl added (the
Cottonbowl) you now have 4 at large births instead of 2. Have them playoff in a
bowl...using two of the at large births. The winner goes on to play in the
#1,2,3,4
Championship playoff...the loser either goes home or because there is still an opening left for one more at large birth in one of the other BCS Bowl games...it gets another game.... personally I would like to see a totally different non BCS team get the remaining at large birth.
Championship playoff...the loser either goes home or because there is still an opening left for one more at large birth in one of the other BCS Bowl games...it gets another game.... personally I would like to see a totally different non BCS team get the remaining at large birth.
"BYU, Utah or Boise State" | 5:01 p.m. July 5, 2009
Mr. Harmon cites these schools as being affected by the BCS cartel. That's
funny, it seems like one of those programs doesn't belong.
BYU hasn't even been good enough to feel the harmful effects of the BCS like UTAH and BSU have. In fact, BYU has benefited from the BCS money brought to the conference by UTAH.
Let's face it, UTAH stands alone as the flagship program for the non-BCS group. Boise State has done little and BYU has done nothing but fail in its quest for perfection.
BYU hasn't even been good enough to feel the harmful effects of the BCS like UTAH and BSU have. In fact, BYU has benefited from the BCS money brought to the conference by UTAH.
Let's face it, UTAH stands alone as the flagship program for the non-BCS group. Boise State has done little and BYU has done nothing but fail in its quest for perfection.
While they are at it | 5:06 p.m. July 5, 2009
While Congress is at it, I wish they would add some meaningful punishment to
steroid use.
Stop it! | 5:19 p.m. July 5, 2009
The BCS is about money, not a championship. If BCS schools would share the
money, things will be fine. Their university presidents don't care about a
trophy, just a check. Since the money comes from national TV audiences and the
advertising expense is spread to virtually every citizen, it is appropriate for
our senators to get involved. Sorry Utahns, it is not a U vs. BYU issue.
Fairnest | 5:32 p.m. July 5, 2009
Yah. Right it is unfair.
So is the US privatized medical system. Terrible Ethics.
Fix the Health system by breaking its monopoly because it is just like the BCS System. Only favoriting the rich and not the poor.
So is the US privatized medical system. Terrible Ethics.
Fix the Health system by breaking its monopoly because it is just like the BCS System. Only favoriting the rich and not the poor.
Scoobie | 6:28 p.m. July 5, 2009
REF: BYU, Utah and Boise State
Utah deserved a shot at the title last year and under Urban Myer as well...there is no doubt. That as much as anything is what this is about. Put aside the rivalry guys. BYU has had a tremendous impact on first the formulation of the Bowl Alliiance...and then the BCS itself. Far more than Notre Dame has ever had since the Bowl Alliance started this whole Mess...But yet Notre Dame who has done nothing of significance has a better window of oppurtunity to get into the BCS than any MWC or WAC team. The 83 Holiday Bowl that led to the 84 NationalChampionship broke too many traditions. It started the debate that led up to the creation of this beast. In 1996 by snubbing what would become #5BYU for the Fiesta bowl... despite they're exceeding the then criteria for selection, the BCS again created a debate affecting changes to the criteria. So BYU has had a tremendous impact on the BCS. We can all be proud of the WAC"s Boise State,our own Utah and BYU. No other NON BCS Conference or Notre Dame can say anything similar...None
Utah deserved a shot at the title last year and under Urban Myer as well...there is no doubt. That as much as anything is what this is about. Put aside the rivalry guys. BYU has had a tremendous impact on first the formulation of the Bowl Alliiance...and then the BCS itself. Far more than Notre Dame has ever had since the Bowl Alliance started this whole Mess...But yet Notre Dame who has done nothing of significance has a better window of oppurtunity to get into the BCS than any MWC or WAC team. The 83 Holiday Bowl that led to the 84 NationalChampionship broke too many traditions. It started the debate that led up to the creation of this beast. In 1996 by snubbing what would become #5BYU for the Fiesta bowl... despite they're exceeding the then criteria for selection, the BCS again created a debate affecting changes to the criteria. So BYU has had a tremendous impact on the BCS. We can all be proud of the WAC"s Boise State,our own Utah and BYU. No other NON BCS Conference or Notre Dame can say anything similar...None
Re: "BYU, Utah or Boise State" | 6:34 p.m. July 5, 2009
"BYU hasn't even been good enough to feel the harmful effects of the
BCS like UTAH and BSU have." Apparently you need a history lesson. In 2001,
BYU was undefeated heading into their final regular season game. Before this
final game was even played, the BCS released a statement indicating that BYU was
not in consideration for a BCS bowl. Harmful effects? It sounds pretty harmful
to me. BYU went on to lose to Hawaii and also their bowl game, but neither of
these final losses impacted the BCS decision, because they had been removed from
consideration even before playing those games. Even if they had won, they would
have been left out.
Ruin college football? | 6:45 p.m. July 5, 2009
I have heard over and over that a 16 or 8 team playoff would "ruin"
college football, yet I have never heard an explanation for why that would be?
I don't see how a system that is more inclusive, more exciting, and that
plays more games (thus bringing in more revenue) would "ruin" college
football. Sure, there wouldn't be guaranteed bowl tie ins, but is that
really what college football is about? That's not why me or any of my
friends (including those from BCS schools) enjoy college football.
This is one issue | 6:49 p.m. July 5, 2009
...that BYU and Utah fans and for that matter, every fan of school in the MWC
should be able to agree on. It affects the conference, it affects college
football.
Re:wow | 7:09 p.m. July 5, 2009
People dying in Iran? Really? What would you suggest we do? People were dying in
Iraq too, but nobody cared. All they wanted to do was criticize Bush because
there were no WMDs. I am not picking sides here, all I am saying is that the
American people seem to be a bit fickle. They want something, and when they get
it they gripe about it.
People wanted something done after 911, but when we did something, it was wrong to fight that war. We have really short memories in this country; and we have a problem making necessary sacrifices to protect what we have. People in Iran dying; really?
People wanted something done after 911, but when we did something, it was wrong to fight that war. We have really short memories in this country; and we have a problem making necessary sacrifices to protect what we have. People in Iran dying; really?
Scoobie | 7:17 p.m. July 5, 2009
REF: College Football:
First of all you'll never see it happen in your lifetime...because the networks and the Major Bowls will stand and support the Major Confereces if a movement to break those Holy ties is even contemplated let alone precipitated. Those are the holy Grails of College Football. The original 3 Major Bowls already lost the significance of thier Holy New Years Day when the 83 Holiday Bowl broke the sacred Tradition of the National Championship being played in one of their bowls on New Years Day.
The pending lawsuits created just from the Major Bowls would take years and years to settle....then the spillover to the smaller Bowls would also take their toll. The Networks have Huge Contracts With the Major Conferences, Select Teams and the Major Bowls which they do not want see negated either...so more litigation there would again take years to settle. You will never see a 16 team Playoff. Even Congress won't have the power to move that much mountain. Twenty years from now "IF" after really leveling the field ...you might see a 7 game 8 team playoff....but thathas to be a REALLY BIG "IF".
First of all you'll never see it happen in your lifetime...because the networks and the Major Bowls will stand and support the Major Confereces if a movement to break those Holy ties is even contemplated let alone precipitated. Those are the holy Grails of College Football. The original 3 Major Bowls already lost the significance of thier Holy New Years Day when the 83 Holiday Bowl broke the sacred Tradition of the National Championship being played in one of their bowls on New Years Day.
The pending lawsuits created just from the Major Bowls would take years and years to settle....then the spillover to the smaller Bowls would also take their toll. The Networks have Huge Contracts With the Major Conferences, Select Teams and the Major Bowls which they do not want see negated either...so more litigation there would again take years to settle. You will never see a 16 team Playoff. Even Congress won't have the power to move that much mountain. Twenty years from now "IF" after really leveling the field ...you might see a 7 game 8 team playoff....but thathas to be a REALLY BIG "IF".
Tom | 7:42 p.m. July 5, 2009
I lived most of my life in Utah. I was a fanatic fan of BYU and Utah. I had
season tickets. I lived and died over how they did. I moved to the midwest
eleven years ago. There are tons more people in this part of the country. I
can see why the networks aren't interested in BYU or Utah (or any other
non-BCS school)because there aren't as many people in their viewing
markets. Frankly, I don't really give a darn about the BCS anyway, because
there are a ton of good teams and they're all exciting to watch. In the
mountain west there are two. I see why you are concerned. For the sake of
saying who is no. 1 it might be good to have a playoff system. For the sake of
money, I don't know what to say. I really don't really care. I guess
I'm terrible. By the way, go Mountain West (but don't try to get it
on cable out here, you can't.)
Anonymous | 9:20 p.m. July 5, 2009
People, please ignore the 16 yr. old Ute fans who have nothing better to do than
turn this into a BYU/Utah argument. To say BYU hasn't done anything to
help, is plain naive. BYU has been a leader in the "Non-BCS"
conferences for years and years. Yes, Utah has too. Utah has busted the BCS
twice. BYU has won a NC.
This is not a BYU/Utah issue. This is a good old fashioned monopoly where big universities want to keep their big money. This will never go away until congress steps in.
This is not a BYU/Utah issue. This is a good old fashioned monopoly where big universities want to keep their big money. This will never go away until congress steps in.
Agree | 10:28 p.m. July 5, 2009
The US Health System is just like this argument of the BCS.
An good old fashioned monopoly where big Pharmaceuticals want to keep their big money.
This will never go away until congress steps in too.
An good old fashioned monopoly where big Pharmaceuticals want to keep their big money.
This will never go away until congress steps in too.
re: re: wow 7:09pm | 11:09 p.m. July 5, 2009
When we went to war following 9/11 it was in Afganistan and I don't think
anyone had a problem with it. The war in Iraq had nothing to do w/ 9/11 or at
least shouldn't have. I guess it's true what you said, "We have
really short memories in this country". Thanks for your enlightening
post.
Also, are ute/coug fans really this dumb? Haven't we figured out that we are together on this issue? We should root for the other team anytime we aren't playing eachother, because we both benefit. I'm a BYU fan and once BYU fell apart I was hoping the U would do what it did. It makes our conference look more legit. And lets not forget about TCU either, if they beat Utah (which they should have), they would have been the first 1 loss mid-major to bust the BCS.
Also, are ute/coug fans really this dumb? Haven't we figured out that we are together on this issue? We should root for the other team anytime we aren't playing eachother, because we both benefit. I'm a BYU fan and once BYU fell apart I was hoping the U would do what it did. It makes our conference look more legit. And lets not forget about TCU either, if they beat Utah (which they should have), they would have been the first 1 loss mid-major to bust the BCS.
Y, BSU and U have made an impact | 12:47 a.m. July 6, 2009
BYU and Utah have had a HUGE impact on the BCS. When BYU first broke the
"New Year's Day tradition" of having the NC decided that day it
started turning heads. Then this stupid Bowl Alliance, then the BCS. Utah busts
the BCS twice, and deserved to play in the title game, not play a weak Pit and a
bad 'Bama. In '02, BYU was removed from consideration for a BCS bowl,
even though they exceeded the criteria. the rules were then changed to make it
harder for non-BCS teams to make it, then BSU and Utah bust it 3 times combined.
We can make it in, and ALL non-BCS teams deserve a shot.
Best of luck to Sen. Hatch and hopefully something will be done.
Best of luck to Sen. Hatch and hopefully something will be done.
Y, BSU U have made an impact.. | 12:49 a.m. July 6, 2009
that date for BYU should be '01.
Mike | 8:50 a.m. July 6, 2009
I loved this column! It's one of your best, Dick.
Who could argue with the logic?
The BCS IS a monopoly, plain and simple. What they are doing is claiming that their willingness to put the "system" before a general vote of major colleges shields them from "monopoly" status, but this is not the intent of the act.
The act was intended, by its general language, to prevent the very thing that has occurred with organizations such as the BCS, and to prevent "wiggle room" where they can work around antitrust through manipulation of words and the way they employ the system itself.
Let them truthfully answer before a court of law and Congress questions such as these.
Who could argue with the logic?
The BCS IS a monopoly, plain and simple. What they are doing is claiming that their willingness to put the "system" before a general vote of major colleges shields them from "monopoly" status, but this is not the intent of the act.
The act was intended, by its general language, to prevent the very thing that has occurred with organizations such as the BCS, and to prevent "wiggle room" where they can work around antitrust through manipulation of words and the way they employ the system itself.
Let them truthfully answer before a court of law and Congress questions such as these.
THE non-BCS Standard | 8:53 a.m. July 6, 2009
As much as it may dismay Utah fans, BYU is and has been the flagship non-major,
non-BCS college football program for the past 30 years.
NO other Division 1A program even comes close in overall recognition (National Titles, National Awards, Top 25 Rankings, and Conference Titles) since the mid-70's.
Utah, Boise State, Fresno State, TCU and others have all had flashes of glory in the past few years, but they're all relative Johnnie-Come-Latelies compared to the long-term success and impact BYU has during the last 30 years.
NO other Division 1A program even comes close in overall recognition (National Titles, National Awards, Top 25 Rankings, and Conference Titles) since the mid-70's.
Utah, Boise State, Fresno State, TCU and others have all had flashes of glory in the past few years, but they're all relative Johnnie-Come-Latelies compared to the long-term success and impact BYU has during the last 30 years.
Anonymous | 9:45 a.m. July 6, 2009
You could say that BYU's Championship in 84 cost Utah their possible two
championships this decade because of the change in the system!
Hmm... Interesting!
Hmm... Interesting!
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