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MWC coach blasts rejection from BCS

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Idahoan | 11:52 p.m. June 25, 2009
"There was no overall support for the proposal, although some conferences were interested in considering certain elements of it in the future particularly those related to revenue, access and governance of the BCS arrangement," said University of Oregon president David Frohnmayer, the outgoing committee chairman.

Wow, only some conferences interested in revenue and access? Arrogant automatic qualifier conferences continue to stomp on and belittle the non-AQ conferences. This hypocrisy and arrogance just is inviting a smackdown. Lawsuit anyone?
true blue | 12:08 a.m. June 26, 2009
The end of the article didn't seem to fit with the topic.
Montanan | 12:11 a.m. June 26, 2009
No lawsuit. We only need Utah and Boise State to thump Oregon this year. The whole Mountain West and Boise State need to show well against the BCS. I'll be in Eugene wearing crimson. A Utah man am I.
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Scoobie | 5:28 a.m. June 26, 2009
The udefeated issue needs to be the only issue the BCS needs to address and they can easily do that by forcing a playoff in either a 1 or a 2 game format depending on how many undefeateds there are to place in a pre BCS final selection playoff. The winner or winners would either play one more game against each other or would automatically get either the no. 1 or the no.2 slot in the BCS. It can be accomplished without realigning the current BCS bowl venues... or...it can be accomplished by adding one more bowl venue to facilitate the playoffs....which is what I suggest...and I think the Cottonbowl would traditionally be the best choice to add to the BCS Bowl alignment. Regardless of wheter or not a team is BCS or Non BCS it will address the undefeated problem that is a canker to the present BCS selection format. There should only be one possible undefeated team and no matter who that is they are the National Champions if they can remain undefeated.
BCS | 5:41 a.m. June 26, 2009
Has and always will be a joke! I just hope as the years progress, that the MWC just goes out there and clobbers teams from the ACC, Big 12, Pac 10 etc

Had the WAC never allowed the merge of 14 teams at one time, I can only say the WAC now the MWC would be a power house.

Scoobie | 5:49 a.m. June 26, 2009
One more point of clarification. If there is only one undefeated team left at the end of the regular season regardless of whether they are BCS or non BCS and no matter where they are in the BCS rankings at the end of regular season play then they get a shot at the then current BCS number 2 in a playoff game. If still undefeated after the playoff they automatically play for the National Championship. You really only need to add one or two games to the current BCS system to make it fair. Figuring out the other top 25 standings when it's all said and done doesn't really matter... but there is no excuse to have an undefeated team that is not the National Champion.
Don't Worry | 5:57 a.m. June 26, 2009
Bias Media will soon see the down fall of viewers. Attendance at smaller bowls will soon go smaller and same on tv. I lost interest watching any other big bowls games or so call bcs games (except UTAH). And yes more bcs fans will do the same. Only those fans will follow their own favorite school playing their bowl game. College football will fall. I love my BYU team year after year win or lose! It is like this - utah got rob and Florida and U. Meyer is a thief! Or how about this - do I care that LA FLAKERS winning the nba title? No, Kobe is a raper and D. Fisher is a trater. Rich people getting richer and will be more ignored.
Where's Stockton???? | 6:18 a.m. June 26, 2009
The issue can no longer be left in the hands of the BCS....The NCAA needs to take the beast by the horns and show some leadership here... and if need be... THEY... (and not their members attempting to go it alone) should be ones in the courts getting this anti trust mess that they allowed to happen...cleaned up. A simplified 1 or 2 game playoff would be a great start to fixing this hugely oversized bias of favoritism that plagues college football today.
RR | 7:00 a.m. June 26, 2009
Greed, pride, money. These rule the BC$. It almost wants to make you boycott college football, yet networks like ESPN treat it as a god and totally worship the system. It's hard to keep loving such a sport when it's controlled by such selfish people.
Obama | 7:43 a.m. June 26, 2009
will set the record straight and bring fair and balanced college football revenue earning and recruiting to all teams in the NCAA. he promised us he would do that during his campaign. he promised us a playoff system.
Anonymous | 7:49 a.m. June 26, 2009
Other than USC, what did the PAC 10 do to earn access? Nothing. This requires a legislative solution. I still think this is an antitrust issue. The NCUA can't do anything because the BCS resulted from a lawsuit on similar grounds by the BCS crowd, complaining of stuff they are now guilty of. It's a mess.
SS | 8:09 a.m. June 26, 2009
Unfortunately the greed of the BCS teams is going to result in government intervention. Same thing with health care, the greed of the pharmaceutical and insurance companies, as well as many physicians, is resulting in massive govt intervention. Will people ever learn?
Cindy on Obama and BCS | 8:15 a.m. June 26, 2009
This would be a much easier problem to solve than health care, and think the good favor it would win him here in Utah, where he is generally vilified, and all the MWC. He really oughta take it on now and get it done. It's a no-brainer.
re: anonymous @ 7:49 | 9:02 a.m. June 26, 2009
You shouldn't rip so much on the PAC 10, rather, the ripping should be on the Big (L)East, and the ACC. They have proven nothing from the beginning of the BCS. They have only been in there by association, that is basketball association. They have never been consistent in football strength, so why is it that hardly nobody complains about their involvement year in and year out in the BCS closed club. That is where the focus should be, eliminate the Big (L)east and the ACC form the BSC - they are useless in football!!
Anonymous | 9:48 a.m. June 26, 2009
You should rip on any conference that has an automatic bid. I don't care what happened in the past, all teams should earn there spots in the post season and the only fair way is through a playoff.
Anonymous | 10:19 a.m. June 26, 2009
MWC should just shut up and go back to playing regional games that nobody cares about.
Obama what?! | 10:58 a.m. June 26, 2009
Obama said a lot of things he didn't mean on the campaign trail. My personal favorites being that he is a self-described "fiscal conservative" . . . what? Or the time he accused the Bush administrations of running up too high of deficit, then he goes and quadruples Bush's highest deficits. So don't hold your breath on him fixing The BC$.
Re: Anonymous | 11:05 a.m. June 26, 2009
The BCS should go back to living in their fantasy world, instead of getting their butts kicked in the real world. Go Utes!!!
RE: Scooby at 5:49am | 11:06 a.m. June 26, 2009
"there is no excuse to have an undefeated team that is not the National Champion."

Says most Yoot fans who still whine about 1984 and the only National Football Championship trophy ever to come to the state of Utah...
@ Anonymous | 11:14 a.m. June 26, 2009
Yep, the MWC should just go back to playing regional games tht nobody cares about.......like humiliating Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. Or maybe it was the Big Sky, and Boise State teaching Oklahoma how to play, or perhaps anonymous wants to avoid the repeat of his so-called BCS wonder teams getting a dose of smack-down from MWC teams.......

What do you think?
Bee's want in to | 11:22 a.m. June 26, 2009
Maybe we should let the triple A baseball leagues qualify for the baseball playoffs. We all want a SL Bee's vs. Morgantown Bandits in the finals.
Just like football would like to see Utah vs. Bowling Green. hahahahah
SEC fan on the loose | 11:36 a.m. June 26, 2009
Anonymous Rocket Scientist at 10:19 a.m. says, "MWC should just shut up and go back to playing regional games that nobody cares about."

Pardon me, but your Crimson Tide is showing.
BCS is Good | 11:42 a.m. June 26, 2009
First off, things can be improved, but the BCS is there to allow those teams who have great fan bases to capitalize on that interest. Granted each conference has a team or two that resemble non-bcs teams in attendance (i.e. Washington State avg 2009 attendance=30k, boise st avg attendance=30k)

A poster said earlier the Pac-10 doesnt deserve to be in the BCS. The Pac-10 has had 6 teams in BCS bowls (4 have wins): Washington, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington State, USC.

TheHailstorm | 11:43 a.m. June 26, 2009
"Utah, in my mind, was the best team in the country last year," Fairchild said. "What they did to Alabama right after Florida struggled with them says it all. And I'm not sure if you play our league over again last year if TCU doesn't win our league. So we've got some extremely talented football teams. It almost seems like a lawsuit in terms of trying to hold revenue back from certain conferences."
Great Quote !
What's holding The MWC back from a class action suit for due process and revenue sharing ?
Is there a reader here that knows the law and could look into it ?
Again this seems to me like a case that Gerry Spence from Wyoming would love to take to court, all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary.
Perhaps our state Governors could clan up and do the same.
Ignorant Non-BCS fans | 11:52 a.m. June 26, 2009
The difference between BCS and non-bcs conference revenue distribution is smaller than you think. Being in the BCS doesn't mean a school will get tons of millions more than non-bcs schools from their respective conference. The BCS stands as a collection of schools who have the more resources (bigger stadiums, bigger fanbases, and more donor contributions)than non-bcs schools. Before the bcs was created, there was clear difference in the wealth of football programs across the country. Now that those programs are defined in the "BCS" people think its the BCS that created that wealth. Fact is, Alabama will always have 93,000+ at their home games, while utah will always have 45,000+.

If a non-bcs team is deemed good enough at the beginning of the year and went undeafeated, they would play for a national title. utah wasn't even in the top 25 to begin the year. If they were ranked early they would have made it.
Scoobie | 12:36 p.m. June 26, 2009
REF:Scooby at 5:49am @11:06 a.m.
JACK....FYI I graduated BYU 1981....was there during the Gifford Nelson, Marc Wilson and Jim McMahon years...I'm not a so called Yoot Fan...but you ... you're an embarassment to be associated with as a Cougar...so either show a little more respect or keep your mouth shut. Utah was unfairly denied a rightful shot as will be the case for all future MWC and WAC teams until the BCS is forced or broght to it's knees. These two Non BCS conferences are the only conferences who consistantly keep bashing in the BCS doors and that is what has to kep happening. Yes I want it to be the MWC... and I want it to be BYU... but Dude the BYU Utah rivalry is second nature....and it will always take care of it'self on it's own. It doesn't take a frigging bunch of loudmouths to keep it alive.
Scoobie | 1:16 p.m. June 26, 2009
REF: Ignorant Non BCS Fans
That was rather interesting...I especially loved your ignorance of the facts. in almost all pertinent cases of the money issue. Just because Alabama has a stadium that will always hold 93,000 plus fans and Utah for now only has a Stadium that hold's 45,000 has very little to do with the creation of the BCS.
Just because BCS Schools have more donor contributions has little to do with the creation of the BCS.
I will concede the bigger fan bases may have somewhat of an effect of actual attendence during BCS games but it had nothing to do with the creation of the BCS First and foremost the brainchild of the BCS was /is and always will be associated with Ohio State University and the big Ten conference. The 1983 Holiday Bowl is the only Bowl in the history of NCAA football that produced a National Champion that wasn't from The Present 4 BCS Bowls. The Big Ten and Bowl coalition are the basis of the BCS. The Pac 10 came in on the skirt of the Rose Bowl. TV Revenue is the THE PRIMAY REASON FOR THE CREATION
Ignorant=Ignorant | 1:20 p.m. June 26, 2009
You have made everyone's point with your own arrogance.
And the revenue difference is...small?
Did you type that with a straight face?
According to your logic, schools with 93,000 (who lost) vs a school with 50,000 ( who beat the school with 93,000) should have a better/easier chance at a national championship because.......
Wait and watch how 'Bama will again be ranked higher than Utah, because of their 93,000 capacity.
Let's go back to the days of teams having to prove themselves year in and year out, excluding nobody.
Regardless of size of stadiums.
RE:@ Anonymous | 11:14 a.m. | 1:39 p.m. June 26, 2009
If I remember right Boise State taught the Utes a thing or two also...in the Ute's own house to boot!
Croc | 1:47 p.m. June 26, 2009
Right on Coach Fairchild. Tell it like it is.
PP | 1:58 p.m. June 26, 2009
-----If a non-bcs team is deemed good enough at the beginning of the year and went undeafeated, they would play for a national title. utah wasn't even in the top 25 to begin the year. If they were ranked early they would have made it.----

Actually BYU was deemed good enough at the beginning of the year, and they quickly shot up into the top 10, but then they sat there for 3 weeks (before they lost to TCU) while teams jumped over them. The same thing happened to Utah over the last 2 weeks of the season. Also, the Coaches and Harris polls only had Utah 7th in their final polls and the Coaches was after the sugar bowl. So no, all the evidence shows that Utah got as high as they were ever going to get, no matter where they started the season ranked.
The BCS | 2:09 p.m. June 26, 2009
Is BS
Anonymous | 2:44 p.m. June 26, 2009
As a starting point they should get rid of preseason rankngs intstead rankings should begin at midseason.
Anonymous | 3:13 p.m. June 26, 2009
Why don't the the non-BCS schools start their own championship tournament? They could invite the BCS schools (who will undoubtably turn them down). They play the games, crown a winner, yes a NATIONAL CHAMPION. If the non-BCS schools stopped going to the non-BCS bowls there would be a lot of angry sponsors who could press to make changes. Oh wait, what am I thinking, even the non-BCS schools like their non-BCS bowl games and miniscule payouts.

Seriously, non-BCS schools should consider their own championship tournament. Would be interesting.
Stop it | 3:31 p.m. June 26, 2009
Utah would have never gone undefeated in the SEC, PAC 10 or the Big 10. Being undefeated doens't mean your the best team in the country when you play in a conference that anyone of the top teams could go undefeated in. Remeber Hawaii everyone was proclaiming them national champs because they were undefeated.Gerogia made them look like a high school team. So Utah beat Alabama good for them, try playing that schedule week in a week out. Florida, Alabama, LSU, Gerogia..
lightmann | 3:54 p.m. June 26, 2009
The BCS schools will keep things status quo for as long as possible. Only legal action will force them to change. It is too sweet of a deal for those schools as is for them to want to change anything.
Wiser that Cougars | 4:38 p.m. June 26, 2009
Y all have forgotten that Utah has proven themselves in every sport including Football. What other team went undefeated twice in four years in the past decade????
Utah - blood red | 4:47 p.m. June 26, 2009
Stop it - how can you say that when they played schools in each of the confrences you related and by the way stomped them... the trouble with the conferences getting automatic bids is it takes away from the schools that do strive for a hard schedule but still don't get the nod from the "rulers" - SEC ie the BCS -- the sum of conferences have completely out grown the BCS... and everyone knows it... the "rulers" are afraid to play with others because it makes them look extremely weak when they lose. Money begets money-- right SEC a lum.?
Re: Stop it | 5:45 p.m. June 26, 2009
"Utah would have never gone undefeated in the SEC, PAC 10 or the Big 10."

Neither would ANY team in the SEC, PAC 10, or Big 10. So why should Utah have to? Florida didn't go undefeated in the SEC. Should they have been eligible for last year's NC? USC didn't go undefeated in the PAC 10. Should they have been eligible for the Rose Bowl? Neither Penn St. nor Ohio St. went undefeated in the Big 10. Should they have merited BCS bowl appearances? Your logic doesn't hold water.
RE: Utah-blood red | 5:49 p.m. June 26, 2009
You call the Oregon State game a stomping, if it wasn't for a bogus call at the end of the game Utah would have never won. You barely beat a very bad Michigan team, where is this stomping coming from. Your trying to tell me Utah would have gone undefeated with the likes of Ohio State, Florida, USC,Georgia,Penn State..I will give you Alabama but lets see if you can keep it up for more than a year. I'm guessing 4 losses.
BYU Blue | 6:17 p.m. June 26, 2009
Utah deserves every accolade that's come their way. They took it Alabama and I'm convinced they could have played with anybody in the country at the end of the season. The BCS is a crock and as un-American as it gets by not allowing teams to compete for a national championship in a fair way.
Coach of the Year | 6:46 p.m. June 26, 2009
Calhoun has my vote. That guy has a bright future, and it will be great to see AF continue to improve to the same level as TCU, BYU and Utah. The only way to get respect is to consistently earn it on the field.
Scoobie | 6:59 p.m. June 26, 2009
REF:BYU BLUE
That's the whole point that needs to be appreciated Last year Utah could have played with anybody but because they are from the MWC they weren't given the chance. A a Cougar Fan I couldn't have been prouder of the Utes the way they stuffed Nick Sabin's own words down his throat....and the whole nation watched them do it...It was great.
@ 5:49 | 9:06 p.m. June 26, 2009
"...if it wasn't for a bogus call at the end of the game Utah would have never won."

No bogus call. The reply showed P.I. The color commentators noted that it was the correct call. OSU Coach Mike Riley neither contested the call, nor suggested it was questionable following the game. Utah won the game because they were the better team.

"You barely beat a very bad Michigan team..."

A win is a win. Michigan scored all their points on short fields due to turnovers. Those errors were subsequently corrected. A narrow victory over Michigan, AT THE BIG HOUSE, does not diminish BLOW OUT victories over Alabama and BYU. Neither does it detract from the fact the Utes had 2 victories over Top-10 teams, and an additional 2 more over other teams ranked in the Top-25.

"Your [sic] trying to tell me Utah would have gone undefeated with the likes of Ohio State, Florida, USC,Georgia,Penn State..."

NOBODY played a schedule facing all those teams. If you want to dispute the Utes claim to #1, then THAT RIGHT THERE is justification for a playoff. Because otherwise, you'll have NO EVIDENCE to the contrary.
BYU Fan | 10:04 p.m. June 26, 2009
Utes deserved a shot at the national championship! No doubt about it!

You could make the argument that Alabama was down when they played... But it's a pretty lame excuse.

I would have voted em #1

Sincerely,
a BYU Fan
BCS Booooo.... | 12:48 a.m. June 27, 2009
Stop it | 3:31 p.m. June 26, 2009
...anyone of the top teams could go undefeated in (MWC).

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Any top team? NOT true!! I can name one top team from the SEC that wouldn't have gone undefeated in the MWC in 2008 by simply pointing at the scoreboard: Utah 31 Bama 17

Hmmm... there goes that logic.

If the MWC is so weak then I would love to see the likes of FL and Texas playing AT Utah or TCU.
Next Excuse | 1:00 a.m. June 27, 2009
Stop it | 3:31 p.m. June 26, 2009
So Utah beat Alabama good for them, try playing that schedule week in a week out. Florida, Alabama, LSU, Gerogia.

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Well Utah beat #7 TCU which was better then #13 Georgia.

Utah beat #18 OSU which was better then un-raked LSU

Actually, Utah had an easier time beating a #6 SEC team Bama then those two ranked teams and they were home games.


BS | 1:01 a.m. June 27, 2009
How many first round NFL draft picks came out of the MTN conference?, just wondering.
Utah | 1:05 a.m. June 27, 2009
Utah has surpassed anything the Cougars havde ever done including that fake national championship a 100 years ago. When you think of football in Utah you think of the U. BYU is now an after thought.
Scoobie | 5:23 a.m. June 27, 2009
REF: UTAH
I like the way that Utah has emerged from a long drought and has had a couple of really good years... and because the BCS is such a commercially rigged monopoly it was not given the oppurtunity to run the board like it should have...but let's get serious... showing up a couple of times in the last 30 years hardly makes it a dynasty....and until you actually posess a National Championship trophy or a Heisman or an Eastman Kodak award no matter what the sport your still just wannabes. Last season, in my mind you should have had the oppurtunity to have played for the N.C. But it didn't happen...that's what this article is about. I'm envious of your NCAA N.C. in Basketball but if you will look at your trohy it has a lot more dust on it than our 1984 NCAA National Championship Trophy in Football. The real problem here is that the NCAA hasn't stepped up to the plate and taken back control of a lousy situation.. That 84 National Championship is theonly one historically outside the Sugar the Orange the Rose or the Fiesta

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