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In our opinion: Defeat Waxman-Markey bill

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mountain man | 6:20 p.m. June 26, 2009

this 1200+ page bill that is being rammed through is obviously an attempt to catch us unaware, they filed the bill last night gave the house 3 hrs to debate something nobody will have read and demand a vote

the other thing that troubles me. Is this CONSTITUTIONAL? where does the gov get the authority to regulate CO2 a naturally occurring atomospheric gas that by the way plants need to produce oxygen.

This will be a huge transfer of wealth that will dwarf the trillions being sent to the middle east.
companies will be paying through the nose to despot tin horn dictators for these new carbon credits, and as we all know businesses don't incur cost with out passing them on to the consumer.

Steve Glaser | 7:13 p.m. June 26, 2009

It passed!

Lionheart | 10:12 p.m. June 26, 2009

@Steve: If it passed, welcome to America, the new third world.

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wYo8 | 2:16 p.m. June 27, 2009

just remember all these comments when 2010 comes around. vote these idiots out of office.

John Gilmore | 10:48 a.m. June 28, 2009

"The debate on man-made global warming is far from over. You've chosen to read only the liberal environmental rhetoric. You haven't even considered that the theory of man made global warming breaks the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics and the principles of heat transfer. Please do YOUR homework. Let's have a real scientific debate!"

there's nothing liberal or conservative about facts. Talk to a climatologist. Better yet, talk to a chinese one who doesn't understand the american political debate. Dr. Jiming Jin, Utah State University, will give you fantastic information about the complexity of climate change. He'll not mention politics once, and when you ask why, he'll say it's because politics are a choice, and people can try to solve problems how they like, he'll just focus on the facts about the warming we will see in the near future.

The problem is that democrats are completely tainted. We all know they're just dragging their feet. Republicans are at least fully committed to one cause and only one cause: Corporations. It's hard to trust that this bill is what we really need.

John Gilmore | 10:49 a.m. June 28, 2009

Anyway,

really, really disappointing editorial. I suspect the new editor of the newspaper has something to do with taking such a hard line anti-science stand.

Anonymous | 10:59 a.m. June 28, 2009

I wasn't sure what to think of this bill. With Rush, Fox News and Beck against it, it must be good for Americans and America. When was the last time conservatives put their nations well being over self?

Look at the history of lies. Any money trickle your way lately?

HK | 11:39 a.m. June 28, 2009

rsp, you are absolutely correct! Matheson knows that if he voted for the bill, he would be voted out in 2010!

CJ | 7:32 p.m. June 28, 2009

One more disaster in a chain of disasters by Obama. He won't be happy until he has taxed us all out of existence and turned the country into a socialist third world nation. He is fomenting a complete catastrophe from which we will never recover.
Anyone who voted for this guy is just as guilty as he is. Socialized medicine? Energy tax? Amnesty? Defecits in the trillions? Wake up everyone, the country is going down,, big time!!!

Stupid is as Stupid Does | 1:22 a.m. June 29, 2009

Another lame brained bill by our politicians. They won't feel this, because they get chaperoned around the nation, will give themselves another pay raise and listen to idiots like Al Gore, who sits in his energy guzzling mansion and jets around in an energy guzzling jet.

I keep telling you, vote them ALL OUT, EVERY SINGLE CURRENT CONGRESSMAN AND SENATOR. Get rid of them and start over. The message they need to understand is to start thinking and listening to the public and those who do not have a vested interest in your bills. In six years we could get rid of every single sitting congressman and woman and send a strong message. WE WILL NO LONGER PUT UP WITH YOUR STUPIDITY.

Anonymous | 10:44 a.m. June 29, 2009

What a completely lame and silly editorial!

I don't necessarily support this bill, but this editorial must have been written by a high school freshman!

Pathetic! You aren't going to convince anyone by this article.

To Anonymous @ 10:44 am | 2:43 p.m. June 29, 2009

Nor are you going to convince anyone with your empty fallacies. The appeal to ridicule ("lame and silly," "Pathetic!") simply ridicules the argument without refuting it, as you have done. Hopefully, those in high school will be taught to think and argue more critically and effectively than that.

Also, I agree with "Stupid is as Stupid Does." Let's vote them all out, and then amend the Constitution to provide for term limits. We need term limits so that the new "ins" don't become as corrupt and self-serving as the present ones.

Fed Up | 7:14 p.m. June 29, 2009

Do politicians think that the average American is just going to lie down and take it as his energy costs go right through the roof because of this ill conceived piece of legislation? Back in colonial days the people became fed up with their government trying to control every aspect of their lives so they revolted.
Thus far, the silent majority has not been politically active ,but take away the America we have known and loved and you have a real revolution on your hands. We will not give up our standard of living for a chicken little the sky is falling theory. There are thousands of scientists who do not even agree with the idea of global warming.
The inmates are truly running the asylum when it comes to Congress.

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