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I would challenge Red Shirt's use of "history, statistics and logic." They rarely reflect the "facts." Sources of information are always important. Surely you wouldn't accept "facts" spouted by Keith Olbermann now would you?
"GIVE ME EVIDENCE!" Neocons demand. (Redshirt does this all the time)
But are hard pressed to come up with the same.
They get this from the bogus WMD's in Iraq BS.
Remember that?
Sad way to through life if you ask me.
Al Gore has invested in a software company that has developed software to track CO2 emission. He also owns "Generation Investment Management" which just happens to be a carbon Trading Company.
Obama was one of the plaintiff lawyer in the case "Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank Fair Housing/Lending/Insurance
Docket / Court 94 C 4094 ( N.D. Ill. ) FH-IL-0011 State/Territory Illinois"
That being said, do you honestly feel its right for Obama to even consider signing bills from congress that were Rahm-rodded down the people's throat without time to read and adequately argue the for and against points? Is this really the man we need to pull America together again, or are you as blinded by his image as all the other Democrap?
300 pages of changes dropped onto lawmakers laps at 3:am for the Global Warming Bill. If Repugs had done this there would have been riots in the streets by the Democraps, but when they do it is is because the Repubs lost and we need to "face the facts" of the lost.
Tell me just who is NOW doing great damage to our country?
How many years will it take to undo the damange "the One" is doing?
Bush didn't even come close to this clown.
Billionaire is how you referred to Gore yet you haven't provided a source (ie tax returns) to show us his net worth.
Obama was one of several plaintiff lawyers against a bank for DISCRIMINATORY lending practices. You provided NO evidence of BAD loans.
Red Shirt. You take a little bit of factual information then add some spin so the end result are distortions and lies just as Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck/O'Reilly/Drudge/Newsmax/etc. do. You have been a good pupil.
WAKE UP!!!!STOP NONSENSE!
Obama is a major disappointment to me too.
He wouldn't know a mandate if it slapped him in the face. It's slapping, again and again. It's a slapping machine.
He's bowing to the corporations, he's acting naive in regard to republican intent on health care reform (of course, their goal is to stop anything from happening, as it has always been), and he doesn't seem to understand how badly the democratic party is infiltrated by fundamentalist capitalists.
What we need is a candidate who is not afraid to be a liberal. Obama is a left leaning moderate (at best) in policy, even if I believe he's a liberal at heart.
We can only hope that in his second term he takes a sharp turn to the left, because I highly doubt we'll see any meaningful reform in the next three years in the most critical areas this country has seen since WW2 - health care - and the most important issue this planet has ever seen - energy policy.
Please raise my taxes.
But on the other hand, I think giving him a "free pass" is dangerous and I am also concerned that those who blamed every problem under the sun on Bush and were vicious in their verbal attacks (and on Palin and others) are now wanting "civility" from the right when it comes to Obama.
There does indeed need to be debate on health care, energy, etc, but debate indicates two sides - something liberals don't seem to want to deal with. The facts are that Canada and the UK are not our model for a health care system (these are smaller countries who restrict immigration to those with a lot of money) and that despite what Mr. Gore (whose motives include fame and fortune) says, there IS time to address climate change and do it right.
And finally, I don't want a green car until they get a lot better.
We had an election and President Obama won. The fact that Obama didn't win Utah doesn't give us the right to nullify the process. I disagreed with those who wanted to impeach President Bush because they opposed his policies, and I disagree with those who wish to toss out President Obama because they oppose his policies. As a Mormon, I was taught at a young age: "We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law." This Article of Faith does not merely apply for the leaders we vote for or agree with.
Do you read...ever? Or are you just parroting Rush's talking points.
Start finding out the facts before you shoot off your mouth. First put brain in gear before starting mouth. THe apostle Peter ha it right when he said the toungue is indeed in a slippery place.
His goals to give every poor more welfare will only worsen our economic woes. He should be giving the poor jobs with better incomes and let them be their own care takers. Socialism and welfare only creates more poor and more economic problems.
By the time Obama has done all his damage to our economy with his so called support for the poor we will be in a bigger depression than we now face. Obama's plans to tax the working americans to fund and give welfare to the poor will not work.
BTW I didn't see the government intervening in Ford's affairs... I wonder why? Maybe its because Ford didn't take billions in tax payer bailout.
Obama should be shown the door...before Fuhrer Obama and his hacks destroy our country beyond repair.
FYI the country over the last 8 years has been destroyed under the Bush Administration. Clinton left with a surplus Bush left the country in the worst economic condition since the great depression and being despised around the world.
BTW conservatives need to make up their minds on Obama ... is he like Hitler or a Messiah? Bush on the other hand preemptively invaded a country(like Hitler) and quoted the bible in his speeches (like the Messiah).
Why when President Bush was in office was it OK to criticize, call him names, etc? Now that Mr. Obama is in office the Left demands that he be respected and allowed to do his job. Hypocrisy?
Bush wasn't elected president by the people Al Gore had the popular vote (aka people chose Gore). It was the SUPREME court that decided on FL thus giving the presidency to the right-wing conservative.
Sound similar... fast forward to 2009 in Iran where the SUPREME leader decided the election for a right-wing conservative nut.
Ironic how we want right-wing nuts in other countries out for more open minded liberals yet right-wing nuts are good for this country??
Red Shirt. You take a little bit of factual information then add some spin so the end result are distortions and lies just as Limbaugh/Hannity
YES, absolutely true. His facts are all spin that can easily counter argued.
"Bush may have done wrong, Obama IS doing wrong,"
May have? What part of the worst economy since the great depression do you not understand, which started in Dec 2007 a year before Obama took office?
Or NO WMDs in Iraq? Or no Al Qayda links to Iraq or 9/11? Or United States does NOT torture?
Or War funding through China? Or Katerina failure.
Or continue reading my pet goat while the country is under attack.
Or illegal aliens doing a better job of speaking English then our 43rd President, wonder why he didn't use a teleprompter.
katrina? so does bush control th weather? wow, i'm surprised we were so eager to kick him out of office. katrina's failure did not come from bush, it came from the governor. the president has no power to interfere with a state. if there was a problem, the state failed, not bush. if bush did interfere, he could've faced impeachment charges for violating his duties. or maybe that's why the dems are so mad about katrina. missed chance for impeachment.
or our 44th for that matter. the one industry that as boosted during this crisis is the teleprompter business. can you say "b "uh" rack hussien obama"?
Good riddance to you and your type.
He is running the entire show all by himself...a true dictatorship..
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Obama is a dictator? I recall the election was a landslide victory when compared to recent elections.
I did not know that he was making and passing the laws, suppressing decent, etc. Didn't the House 219-212 just last Friday pass the "Cap and Trade" bill. Not really dictator like.
katrina? so does bush control the weather?
No he doesn't control the weather nor does he control the terrorists that attacked us on 9/11 from Afghanistan.
BUT he does control to how act to those disasters:
Katrina reaction was a absolute failure for the richest country in the world.
Reaction to the attack from Afghanistan was a failure: attacking Iraq while Taliban and Al Qayda grew into nuclear Pakistan.
Ditto to those who say conservatives are just "parroting" Rush Limbaugh. I guess that's because you can't refute what Rush is saying. He's right, and you resent it. So, go ahead with your empty fallacies. They mean nothing and do nothing except "convince" people who already agree with you.
"Why when President Bush was in office was it OK to criticize, call him names, etc? Now that Mr. Obama is in office the Left demands that he be respected... Hypocrisy?"
Bush's took eight VERY LONG years to do the damage he did to this country. It will take much longer than that just to recover. But, within days of Obama taking office the Republican choir began their droning chant of "...he's destroying our country! Family Values! Founding Fathers! Stop Marxist Socialism!"
You MUST accept the idea that there is NOTHING that you Republicans can do to ever take away your history of President Nixon and his watergate and the Vietnam War. Nothing can take away your history with President Reagan and the Iran Contra secret government. Nothing can take away Bush's government based on theology and dogma over reason and science.
You're going to have to live with that.
Sadly, we ALL share the history of Republican presidents lies, deceptions, fearmongering, subversive manipulations and criminal activity.
Obama will NEVER be one of you, no matter what lies and fearmongering you spread about him.
Ditto to those who say conservatives are just "parroting" Rush Limbaugh. I guess that's because you can't refute what Rush is saying. He's right, and you resent it.
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Really, have Rush run for office since he's the top Republican in 2012 and lets see what America thinks.
If he and the GOP is right then why do the Democrats hold the House, the Senate, and the White House?
If your polices were so good for America then why were they rejected over the last few elections?
Right wing kooks be it in Iran or Afghanistan are just that nuts. No wonder we continue pray more moderates will lead these societies. The same goes for us.
Detroit cranked out those Gas guzzling SUVs because that's what 'mericans waz buy'in! $$$
Toyota already had Hybrids developed and on the road because gas has been $5+ in Japan for years!
50% of the cars in Europe are Diesels because gas is been over $5+ per gallon for years there too.
Americans driving their 8mpg Hummers and SUVs 80 miles per hour had ONE summer of $4 per gallon and you'd think it was the end of the world!
No-one has the right to force anyone to do the right thing, that takes away freedom of choice.
Grow and take personal responsibility.
If you BUY green, they will BUILD green.
I for one am ticked off that I have to "bail out" greedy Automakers for build cars that know one wants anymore.
Go Germany, Go Japan!!!
By the way, are you a paid political hack like so many other liberal posters on this board?
I don't get it DN!!!!
But then again...I don't get Rush Limbaugh either....
I just do not get the thought process anymore, we spend billions on bombs, guns, espionage, and black ops. Why because the "Military Industrial Complex" DDE: wants it that way.
If we took one year, yes one year of the defense spending in this country and spent it on alt fuel sources we could be off our addiction to oil. How simple is that, spend money to cut the life line of our enemies. Instead we go on funding the very countries that want to destroy us! Check out the Pickens Plan for one solution.
The Oil Companies in this country do not want any change in policy. In turn they fund both sides Dem and Rep and we go no where. Status Quo for Oil is the best policy.
Obama has very limited power when up against the real tyrants in this country.
"Fear mongering" is the lifeblood of liberalism and the Democratic Party, and "Constitution trampling" is their modus operandi. How else to you explain a bloated federal government that dominates nearly every aspect of our lives and seeks to control the rest? The federal government was designed to be one of limited powers, so that the federal tyranny now unfolding would never occur. Our constitution has already been shredded by politicians from both parties who have expanded the power of the federal government. It almost makes me pine for the Articles of Confederation.
Go ahead blame Bush and the GOP, as you undoubtedly will. You will find no argument here. Bush and the GOP have been a big part of the problem because they have ignored conservative principles and have instead espoused liberal ones in an ill-advised effort to "move to the center."
It's time for "We, the People" to reject the "fear-mongering" and "constitution-shredding" of both parties, take back the power, return the federal government to is limited sphere, and return freedom and prosperity to our great country.
Mitt Romney's "business savvy" would make far more sense in this current environment????
Running a nation is not at all the same thing as playing corporate takeover games with a sporting goods store!
Get a clue, buddy.
For example, I still haven't heard how Obama and media made the current recession worse. When in fact everyone in mid 08 was saying recession likely to last into 2010.
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Somehow, I don't imagine your high standards apply to any assertions made by those on the left.