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K2 | 11:00 a.m. June 26, 2009
Sorry, but don't have anything in rebuttal - folks like you are hopeless.
"...shown the door....", let's just wait til the next
presidential election or better yet, let the President serve this great country
under very trying circumstances. Have we forgotten the Who's Who that put
us in this inherited mess?
to the letter writer@10:04 | 11:05 a.m. June 26, 2009
you may want to go back and read the letter the letter writer is the one that
used the word hate to begin with in reference to Obama. You can't through
stink bombs then get made if you come out smelling bad.
you may also want to read hear hear's post.
you may also want to read hear hear's post.
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Hilarious republicans | 11:05 a.m. June 26, 2009
Blind to their own myriad inadequacies. Blind to the current ruination caused by
their puppet Bush. I would like to see them offer up a candidate that we could
be proud of, but every one they can find is a bigger joke than the last. See
"Replacements" comment above.
The GOP as we know it is dead...stinking. It is an empty, mindless, lost shell of it's former self.
The few remaining stragglers can offer up nothing and no one of substance, so they throw darts at the current administration.
Weak, embarassing, and completely predictable.
RIP GOP. You are gone. Valueless, insignificant, passe, trite, rotting, without merit.
You had your chances for 8 years, and all we did was slide further into the abyss. Thanks a lot GOP.
We have seen your work, and it benefits few, and hurts many. You lost. Now go sit in the corner and be quiet.
Good riddance. Now leave us alone as we clean up your mess.
BB
The GOP as we know it is dead...stinking. It is an empty, mindless, lost shell of it's former self.
The few remaining stragglers can offer up nothing and no one of substance, so they throw darts at the current administration.
Weak, embarassing, and completely predictable.
RIP GOP. You are gone. Valueless, insignificant, passe, trite, rotting, without merit.
You had your chances for 8 years, and all we did was slide further into the abyss. Thanks a lot GOP.
We have seen your work, and it benefits few, and hurts many. You lost. Now go sit in the corner and be quiet.
Good riddance. Now leave us alone as we clean up your mess.
BB
Anonymous | 11:09 a.m. June 26, 2009
Dear RedShirt:
I think you should volunteer for South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford's re-election campaign.
Your hypocrisy is perfectly suited for it.
I think you should volunteer for South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford's re-election campaign.
Your hypocrisy is perfectly suited for it.
nothing | 11:21 a.m. June 26, 2009
wrong with being angry at the America hating left.
If I hear "at least give this administration a chance" again, I am going to blow chunks!
He has been given a chance to show just how Marxist he is. Who would have guessed with his associations and upbringing? He has spent our childrens future and thats just OK with the ME crowd. Well the "chickens are comming home to roost" as one of Obamas spiritual advisers once said.
I say Prepare for that which is about to come to the formerly most free country in the world.
If I hear "at least give this administration a chance" again, I am going to blow chunks!
He has been given a chance to show just how Marxist he is. Who would have guessed with his associations and upbringing? He has spent our childrens future and thats just OK with the ME crowd. Well the "chickens are comming home to roost" as one of Obamas spiritual advisers once said.
I say Prepare for that which is about to come to the formerly most free country in the world.
KM | 11:22 a.m. June 26, 2009
Why not show him the door by taking his teleprompter away, so whoever is behind
his words will just go away... ditto with his blackberry.
RedShirt | 11:33 a.m. June 26, 2009
TO "Anonymous | 10:57 a.m." how about this. Obama is following Hoover
and FDR for this recession. Those two presidents did nothing to help the
depression, and actually made things worse.
Hoover started massive infastructure projects, which had no effect on the economy.
Next, we had FDR and his protectionist tarrifs, wage controls, price controls through the blue eagle, the "Alphabet soup" government offices, and a host of other things intended to make things better, which actually did nothing to help. Obama is doing nearly the same things.
Obama put into the stimulus act the "Buy American" provisions, which are causing other nations to not-buy american at the same time. Obama is enacting wage controls on any company that receives stimulus money. He is adding or expanding existing government programs faster than FDR built his "Alphabet soup" empire.
The problem lies in the fact that Europe didn't do what Hoover and FDR did, and, for the most part was done with the depression by 1933. The US lingered in the depression until around 1939 or 1940. What I don't want to see is a repeat of the depression where massive ineffective government programs were experimented with.
Hoover started massive infastructure projects, which had no effect on the economy.
Next, we had FDR and his protectionist tarrifs, wage controls, price controls through the blue eagle, the "Alphabet soup" government offices, and a host of other things intended to make things better, which actually did nothing to help. Obama is doing nearly the same things.
Obama put into the stimulus act the "Buy American" provisions, which are causing other nations to not-buy american at the same time. Obama is enacting wage controls on any company that receives stimulus money. He is adding or expanding existing government programs faster than FDR built his "Alphabet soup" empire.
The problem lies in the fact that Europe didn't do what Hoover and FDR did, and, for the most part was done with the depression by 1933. The US lingered in the depression until around 1939 or 1940. What I don't want to see is a repeat of the depression where massive ineffective government programs were experimented with.
Idahoan | 11:48 a.m. June 26, 2009
Anonymous of 11:09: Did you not read RedShirt say he is more inclined to vote
Libertarian? How do you get off saying he's hypocritical? He pointed out
the problematic Democrats. He didn't say there weren't any problematic
Republicans. By indicating his willingness to vote Libertarian, he isn't
siding with the Republicans. He's pointing out that both parties have their
problems.
@Idahoan | 12:00 p.m. June 26, 2009
The leftist posters on here would like to smother Redshirt. He just shines too
much light.
Keep OBAMA! | 12:01 p.m. June 26, 2009
Look at all Obama has done or can do: Raised the car industry from the dead,
calm the weather with his signature, give back our health with his promises, and
turn debt (water) into properity (wine). I was a doubter before, but now I know,
HE IS THE MESSIAH!!
Demosthenes | 12:02 p.m. June 26, 2009
As the unemployment rate continues to rise, the stock and real estate markets
continue to flounder, with Federal deficits putting the next 2 generations in
massive debt, and with inflation looming on the near horizon, the next election
cycles will certainly measure the American people's satisfaction with
Obama's "hope and change."
To all letter writers: If you want to make a point effectively, stick to facts and logic. Labeling and name-calling won't change anyone's mind--they tell more about the writer than the subject of the letter.
To all letter writers: If you want to make a point effectively, stick to facts and logic. Labeling and name-calling won't change anyone's mind--they tell more about the writer than the subject of the letter.
To Km | 12:04 p.m. June 26, 2009
Do you think Bush didn't use a teleprompter. You could see his beady little
eyes squint when he was focusing in on a word. He would stutter and stammer and
then mispronounce the word that he most likely didn't know the definition
of.
JN | 12:05 p.m. June 26, 2009
Hey, Indiana, you sound pretty angry and hateful yourself.
Take the emotion out of it and listen to the argument, provide a reasonable justification for what you believe, THEN we'll have something to discuss. Throwing words around it easy, thinking and reasoning is hard
Take the emotion out of it and listen to the argument, provide a reasonable justification for what you believe, THEN we'll have something to discuss. Throwing words around it easy, thinking and reasoning is hard
DBG | 12:13 p.m. June 26, 2009
@RedShirt:Certainly the "seeds" were planted after the turn of the
20th Century. However, I was merely pointing out that Congress authorized this
"sieze" under TARP, which was under Bush's watch. This could have
been avoided and let these businesses fail if these bailouts never occured. At
least Obama is standing up for the taxpayer's money. And placing
accountability squarely on the shoulders of the CEOs.
Letter.... | 12:42 p.m. June 26, 2009
of the year!
Hatuletoh | 12:49 p.m. June 26, 2009
It's Utahan pontificate on presidential politics. It was funny when Rocky
Anderson protested against George Bush, and it's funny to hear the cries of
"socialism!" from the other side. Owing to our small population and
intransigent insistance on voting 'R' in all national elections, US
presidents only come here when they're Republican and in need of a friendly
crowd to pat on them on the back. Even then, they don't actually care
about our opinions. And why should they?
Put briefly, Mr. Anderson's opinion doesn't matter and neither does mine.
Put briefly, Mr. Anderson's opinion doesn't matter and neither does mine.
Amen Anonymous 10:54 | 1:12 p.m. June 26, 2009
You made some excellent points.
I was a registered independent for over 30 yrs, voting on both sides of the political spectrum. I became a Democrat in 2006. It is sad to see what has become of the Republican Party. When Republican leaders are apologizing to Limbaugh it is clear Republicans have lost their way. How ironic that so many Mormons are Republicans when the Republican presidential candidate was a divorcee and they rallied around the VP candidate whose unmarried, teenage daughter was pregnant, while assailing the family man, Barack Obama.
What responsibility do Republicans take for the past 8 years?
I was a registered independent for over 30 yrs, voting on both sides of the political spectrum. I became a Democrat in 2006. It is sad to see what has become of the Republican Party. When Republican leaders are apologizing to Limbaugh it is clear Republicans have lost their way. How ironic that so many Mormons are Republicans when the Republican presidential candidate was a divorcee and they rallied around the VP candidate whose unmarried, teenage daughter was pregnant, while assailing the family man, Barack Obama.
What responsibility do Republicans take for the past 8 years?
Palin/Limbaugh ticket | 1:34 p.m. June 26, 2009
With people like Redshirt speaking for the conservative movement, that movement
is clearly doomed.
Keep up the good work Rush, er, I mean, Red.
LOL!
Keep up the good work Rush, er, I mean, Red.
LOL!
RedShirt | 2:15 p.m. June 26, 2009
To "Palin/Limbaugh ticket | 1:34 p.m." actually it was Republican
trying to be better "Progressives" than the Democrats that killed
their party. If you reviewed the last presidential race, McCain did better
against Obama once he added Palin to the ticket. That brought back many
conservatives to consider voting for him.
If you paid attention to the campain, rather than just sitting back and enjoying that tingly feeling that runs up your leg when Obama speaks, you would have seen the reports.
If you paid attention to the campain, rather than just sitting back and enjoying that tingly feeling that runs up your leg when Obama speaks, you would have seen the reports.
To redshirt and idahoan | 2:31 p.m. June 26, 2009
Way to pat yourself on the back....(same Person)
Grover | 2:56 p.m. June 26, 2009
I get it now..."show him the door"! Right, like in he doesn't
belong in the oval office, he should be holding the door for the real POTUS. Ok,
with that corrected focus ask yourself what would have made people
overwhelmingly both in electoral and popular vote make your doorman candidate
the new President?Only the complete and total failure of his predecessor and the
"loyalty above all" defense of his record by his party. Get used to
it.
To redbaugh | 2:56 p.m. June 26, 2009
If you had payed any attention to the final results you would know that the
uptick when Palin was named was very short lived. As soon as most sane
republicans found out more about her they dropped like rocks is the polls. Nice
try though, you can now return to the hannity hour.
MrH | 3:08 p.m. June 26, 2009
Oh the sour grapes and pity parties of writers like this...too funny. Anyone
who does not share his narrow view must be shown the door... too sad. Time to
grow up dear sir.
To Bucky Jay | 3:14 p.m. June 26, 2009
Obama good, Bush bad... Corporations greedy, government good... America broken,
the rest of the world good... Conservatives bad, liberals good...
A pathetic and predictable discourse, as usual.
A pathetic and predictable discourse, as usual.
to: Red Shirt | 3:24 p.m. June 26, 2009
While the addition of Palin to the Republican ticket excited many Conservatives,
it resulted in the defection of many moderates. Hard to see how the Republicans
can become a national party when their base support is so narrow.
Anonymous | 3:26 p.m. June 26, 2009
By the pathetic postings of neocons like RedShirt above, it must be agonizing
for the modern American conservative movement to have nothing to look forward to
in 2012 other than a Palin/Limbaugh ticket.
This might explain their non-stop weird nature.
This might explain their non-stop weird nature.
re: Redshirt | 3:31 p.m. June 26, 2009
And the childish Limbaugh-sounding nonsense continues.
Pot calling kettle | 3:40 p.m. June 26, 2009
Frederick Anderson wrote: "President Barack Obama is an angry
man."
Mr. Anderson, look in the mirror. It's called "projection," projecting your feelings onto another person.
Mr. Anderson, look in the mirror. It's called "projection," projecting your feelings onto another person.
RedShirt's awesome kiss his boot | 4:09 p.m. June 26, 2009
To: Anonymous @ 11:09 a.m.
"Dear RedShirt: I think you should volunteer for South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford's re-election campaign.
Your hypocrisy is perfectly suited for it."
I am sure he would be happy to do so but he is to busy trolling the internet and posting nonsense. If he is going to be busy with Sanford's campaign then we will not have the blessing of reading his long winded and moronic posts since he won't have time to make any.
Please don't leave us RedShirt. We are enlightened by your posts and would sorely miss your wisdom, knowledge and humor. We love to read your posts and hear your justify your evil votes for evil people who agree with your evil opinions.
I am sure our founding fathers loved to read the op-eds of British voters who supported their right to vote to harm Americans. I am sure that they truly enjoyed reading the rationale for why Britain had the right to start wars of aggression that caused innocent Americans to die.
The modern day neocons and conservatives in Iran and the U.S. would be at home in pre-Revolutionary Britain
"Dear RedShirt: I think you should volunteer for South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford's re-election campaign.
Your hypocrisy is perfectly suited for it."
I am sure he would be happy to do so but he is to busy trolling the internet and posting nonsense. If he is going to be busy with Sanford's campaign then we will not have the blessing of reading his long winded and moronic posts since he won't have time to make any.
Please don't leave us RedShirt. We are enlightened by your posts and would sorely miss your wisdom, knowledge and humor. We love to read your posts and hear your justify your evil votes for evil people who agree with your evil opinions.
I am sure our founding fathers loved to read the op-eds of British voters who supported their right to vote to harm Americans. I am sure that they truly enjoyed reading the rationale for why Britain had the right to start wars of aggression that caused innocent Americans to die.
The modern day neocons and conservatives in Iran and the U.S. would be at home in pre-Revolutionary Britain
RedShirt | 4:10 p.m. June 26, 2009
To "Anonymous | 3:26 p.m." and "re: Redshirt | 3:31 p.m." is
that all you have?! I bring out quotes, points of history and other such
verifiable things, and this is all you have to come back with?!
re: Redshirt | 4:14 p.m. June 26, 2009
LOL!
Redshirt making demands as if he sits in judgement of it all.
This is typical of neocons and why they are doomed to self-righteous failure. (except in Utah)
LOL!
Redshirt making demands as if he sits in judgement of it all.
This is typical of neocons and why they are doomed to self-righteous failure. (except in Utah)
LOL!
Redshirt not evil | 4:20 p.m. June 26, 2009
I don't see Redshirt as "evil" (that's a conservative ploy)
just a willingly brainwashed, sad and lonely human being who cannot accept
reality (overwhelming support for the new administration).
Yes, Virginia, there are still some (neocons)around.
Yes, Virginia, there are still some (neocons)around.
Dear RedShirt | 4:22 p.m. June 26, 2009
I think they might be jealous of your vast knowledge They are envious that they
do not know everything about everything like you do.
Ann
Ann
sounds like a teacher | 4:26 p.m. June 26, 2009
Redshirt is starting to sound like a jaded junior high school teacher who gets
off on giving failing grades to everyone for not doing the assigned homework.
LOL!
LOL!
To Shirt hannity 4:10 | 4:27 p.m. June 26, 2009
Yeah way to bring it tough on that post. You could have at least brought NEENER
NEENER. What did you learn from Hannity today, What "news" did he spew
today. I guess we'll have to wait till Monday to hear "your"
thoughts.
Hypocrisy | 4:28 p.m. June 26, 2009
Fredrick and other fellow Conservatives.
who's your alternative? So you want to already boot Obama after only 6 months calling him a failure and STILL reserving judgment on Bush even after 8 years of disaster. So who's the alternative? Who should we put in place after Obama is shown the door?
George Bush? Dick Cheney? Sarah Palin? Mitt Romney?
See, it's all about realistic solutions. This is one of the main reasons why the GOP has been losing in states that used to be their strongholds.
who's your alternative? So you want to already boot Obama after only 6 months calling him a failure and STILL reserving judgment on Bush even after 8 years of disaster. So who's the alternative? Who should we put in place after Obama is shown the door?
George Bush? Dick Cheney? Sarah Palin? Mitt Romney?
See, it's all about realistic solutions. This is one of the main reasons why the GOP has been losing in states that used to be their strongholds.
Anonymous | 4:37 p.m. June 26, 2009
I love Obama. I figure that all you extremeist need to just chill out.
@Redshirt 4:10 | 4:38 p.m. June 26, 2009
Yeah, that's all they've got.
the truth | 4:44 p.m. June 26, 2009
republican get in to sex scandals
DEMOCRATS get inot sex scandals,
Bush may have done wrong,
Obama IS doing wrong,
two wrongs do not make it right.
Logic simple enough even a liberal SHOULD understand it.
DEMOCRATS get inot sex scandals,
Bush may have done wrong,
Obama IS doing wrong,
two wrongs do not make it right.
Logic simple enough even a liberal SHOULD understand it.
Obama the teacher | 4:58 p.m. June 26, 2009
All the Redshirt bashers out there must be taking their lessons from Obama. Any
time a legitimate complaint is made of policies using history, statistics, and
logic, the only comeback is a bunch of dismissive "LOL, Rushbaugh,
Hannity-lover, Faux News brainwashed, neocon, last 8 years of Bush, etc.,
etc.," with no logical or reasonable rebuttal to your point. The intent is
to cleverly marginalize and diminish your credibility, and create an impression
that they are so enlightened that your arguments are not even worthy of a
rebuttal other than mockery. Obama is a master at this, hoping that what is
lost to his worshipers is the fact that he has offered no reasoned rebuttal.
...And when their policies ultimately fail miserably according to historical precedent, they will still blame you.
...And when their policies ultimately fail miserably according to historical precedent, they will still blame you.
Reason | 5:13 p.m. June 26, 2009
Why do I get the impression that many of the barbs against RedShirt were written
by the same person? It sounds like our good ol' Anonymous again. Yes, I
realize that the name Anonymous is used if you dont enter a name, but this one
is different.
The writing of THIS Anonymous is usually easy to recognize, even when he (she?) posts under different names. He posts frequently on these forums, but contributes nothing to the discussion, and offers only taunts and insults. He only makes himself look petty. He reminds me of a little irrelevant dog who yaps constantly and nips at the heels of adults who are attempting to engage in an intelligent debate. I just roll my eyes, smile, and ignore the yapping.
Re: the original letter writer: Good letter.
The writing of THIS Anonymous is usually easy to recognize, even when he (she?) posts under different names. He posts frequently on these forums, but contributes nothing to the discussion, and offers only taunts and insults. He only makes himself look petty. He reminds me of a little irrelevant dog who yaps constantly and nips at the heels of adults who are attempting to engage in an intelligent debate. I just roll my eyes, smile, and ignore the yapping.
Re: the original letter writer: Good letter.
Tracey | 5:32 p.m. June 26, 2009
America is blessed that God has send us such a great leader in President Obama
to guide us through these troubled times. We all need to get onboard and do our
part too. The pickle suckers need to quite their crying and put their shoulder
to the wheel an take a positive attidute. Yes, we can.
family values? | 5:56 p.m. June 26, 2009
With the Idaho guy propositioning another guy in the airport men's room,
McCain dumping his ill wife for a richer, younger one, two GOP governor's
living apart from their wives and family ... looks like the Democrats are the
newly christened family-values party.
Anonymous | 6:03 p.m. June 26, 2009
Hard to figure out why conservatives hate a president that is intelligent,
compassionate, and 100% American.
But look who they voted for previously.
LOL!
But look who they voted for previously.
LOL!
Bill in Payson | 6:05 p.m. June 26, 2009
Is this a private fight or can anyone join in???
Push harder? Uh, no.... | 6:17 p.m. June 26, 2009
"Tracey | 5:32 p.m. June 26, 2009
America is blessed that God has send us such a great leader in President Obama to guide us through these troubled times. We all need to get onboard and do our part too. The pickle suckers need to quite their crying and put their shoulder to the wheel an take a positive attidute. Yes, we can."
Tracey -
Just what, exactly, is the value of "putting your shoulder to the wheel" of a train that is heading off a cliff?
Obama may mean well but in the real world you can't PERFORM well if you're clueless. Like they say, "knowledge is power" and Obama simply lacks much of the knowledge required to perform adequately for the world's greatest nation.
America is blessed that God has send us such a great leader in President Obama to guide us through these troubled times. We all need to get onboard and do our part too. The pickle suckers need to quite their crying and put their shoulder to the wheel an take a positive attidute. Yes, we can."
Tracey -
Just what, exactly, is the value of "putting your shoulder to the wheel" of a train that is heading off a cliff?
Obama may mean well but in the real world you can't PERFORM well if you're clueless. Like they say, "knowledge is power" and Obama simply lacks much of the knowledge required to perform adequately for the world's greatest nation.
Anonymous | 6:23 p.m. June 26, 2009
I don't see RedShirt as an "evil" person any more than Dick
Cheney is an "evil" person.
But one reaps what they sow don't they?
Less is more, Red.
But one reaps what they sow don't they?
Less is more, Red.
Re Obama the teacher | 7:20 p.m. June 26, 2009
So let's ask Red Shirt what he uses as sources.
What source did he use to suggest that John Kerry got special treatment in being awarded Purple Hearts?
What was his source to suggest that Obama was involved with a lawsuit to force a bank to make BAD loans?
What was his source to show that Al Gore has personally become a billionaire as a result of his support of global warming?
What was his source which said Timothy Geithner wrote tax code?
What source did he use to suggest that John Kerry got special treatment in being awarded Purple Hearts?
What was his source to suggest that Obama was involved with a lawsuit to force a bank to make BAD loans?
What was his source to show that Al Gore has personally become a billionaire as a result of his support of global warming?
What was his source which said Timothy Geithner wrote tax code?
shecky | 7:30 p.m. June 26, 2009
Say what you will. I'm still relieved that Uncle George has gone back to
Texas. And by the way, wasn't it Bush who was in a big hurry to bailout
the failed banking system? How selective our memories.
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