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This young girl was all ready proven to be the victim of an adult predator. If they had not been found by the police in the act, and the girl had accused that man of the crime, without the evidence provided by the police finding them in the act, the other guy would not be in prison right now. And you would all be saying how great that is,
Hey, this guy might have just got away with something. Imagine making so many phone calls to a 16 year old girl. And you guys think that does not raise flags?
But whenever the tiniest bit of suspicion comes to light, everyone rushes to ruin the man's reputation. He has been on administrative leave WITHOUT PAY, quite possibly lost his home, credit rating, and teachers across the country will see this and pull back from nuturing the students, leave the profession, and find something else less risky to do for a living.
That is why our legislature did us a favor by dismantling the teacher's union, effectively cutting teacher pay and benefits, raising classroom sizes, and putting off buying textbooks for next year (look at the new contract in Davis County).
Let's now bring in charter schools without any accountability and see this legislative dream all the way through to destroy the hopes and possibilities of a free and solid education for all the chilren of Utah, and reserve that right only for the children of the rich.
Any teachers out there making more (or the same) next year???
Way to go Utah!!!
Inappropriate communication? Absolutely! But - nowadays the teachers give out their phone numbers and e-mails in case a student has a question about assignments and needs direct answers. This girl went over that boundary, and the teacher took the hook.
I'm sure the schools will be looking at figuring out how to make sure boundaries stay in place.
Still, I remember much more social interaction with my teachers - in both high school and college than kids get these days and it's an utter shame that the sort of hysteria that attends to much of this, and which allowed for allegations to proceed against Mr. Bernardo has deprived today's students of richer (and entirely appropriate) relationships with much needed adult role models.
Stare Decisis
Let the decision stand.
If the article is correct in stating that this man told this sixteen year old girl "I LOVE YOU", then trust me, he was intimately involved with her. That along with her testimony is sufficient evidence beyond any reasonable doubt. There is no defense or spin that can explain a statement like that. And since it was a written text message that can be verified through electronic records, it is rock solid.
There is a reason why this man apparently opted out for the jury trial. I know for a fact that judge shopping happens in the legal world, but it is near impossible to jury shop. Clearly justice was not done.
Try reading The Crucible; it's a good read.
Congratulations to the Judge for having enough bravery to stand up for what was right despite the public outcry and stop the "witch-hunt" in its tracks.
If not, I feel bad for him because he has been without pay and had his hame dragged through the mud.
Should J.B have been more aware of the cultural norms and been more cautious in his friendships with students? Probably, yes. Is he guilty of having sex with a minor? Hell no.
Case closed already.
If there was enough >Lack< of evidence to convince her that he was not guilty, then that's probably the case.
I am super happy with the outcome, I knew it from the beginning he was innocent.
I heard that not just his wife, BUT HIS WIFE'S FAMILY AND EXTENDED FAMILY wholly supported J.B. during this whole thing and swore his innocence throughout.
Just a thought since I would think these allegations, if true, would have soured those relationships.
This guy is as clean as they come.
Although I certainly agree that this man should have been WAY more careful, this statement:
"please stick to teaching and stay emotionally attach free from the students"
Is totally and absolutely preposterous!!!! You obviously have NEVER been a teacher. You CANNOT teach a child well, let alone at all, without making connections with them. The only way to get through, especially with the "harder" students is to build a relationship with them! Certainly--this many should not have been making phone calls, e-mails, and so forth---
But honestly, when I was teaching full time I used to dream about my students. Good teachers are teachers who CARE. They cannot CARE if they don't make emotional connections with their students.
She should be branded as a liar and get real help.
And he needs to adhere to the rules more closely, no matter how you want to help someone.
Send them to a counselor..record everything that goes on..and don't dont' don't see these people outside of school..don't text them!!..he is not their peer.
He now has to be the adult in all situations with kids..
Here's why:
I don't "love" my students. I respect them and spend incredible amounts of time and money helping them be successful in my classroom but to go further would be unprofessional.
I have never called or e-mailed my students at home and never will. I phone and e-mail their parents from my school and work through issues in a professional manner.
I don't know how to text message or chat or blog on the internet and would never engage in that with my students or with their parents. That would be unprofessional.
I guess as a teacher I am increasingly expected to be a surrogate parent. I can't and won't do that. When I walk out of my school each evening I have done all that I can to ensure the success of my students. It is then time for good parents or guardians to take over and help with the education of their children.
I am so glad we live in a country where despite conspiracies, false allegations, predatory accusers, and unlawful prosecutors; an HONEST, CARING, CHRISTLIKE man will always be afforded the three unalienable rights of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Enjoy them JB, no American has truly earned these freedoms as much as you!
Accused of sexual abuse, but back in the classroom
LA Times - May 10, 2009
You can go to the Times web-site and search "teachers accused sexual abuse" to find the article.
"First let me state that a fathers instincts are rarely wrong."
So, because a father says he believes this happened to his daughter, we should convict, with no supporting evidence?
People like you are why this attorney worried about a jury trial. Fathers are as likely to be wrong as anyone. How many parents of convicted criminals buy into their offspring's claims of innocence? Plenty. Just cause daddy believes it doesn't make it so.
and then you said... "...that this man told this sixteen year old girl "I LOVE YOU", then trust me, he was intimately involved with her."
Wow. The standards you keep.
OK, I don't know about you, but i've had a few girlfriends in my life, and I have said "I love you" to a lot more people than I've slept with. Saying the ILY phrase does not equate to sexual contact. Well, maybe it does for you, in which case you are probably not in love much or have slept with way more people than you shold.
Or perhaps you just have an overreactive, dirty mind.
Yes, you are a relic. There is not a day that goes by that I don't communicate with my students electronically outside the classroom. If you want to get through to them, you don't do it through letters home. You join the digital age.
Lemme guess... you can't even program a VCR. Right? Still using that 8-track?
This is what Michael Jackson claimed with his so called innocent relationship with young boys.
But I stand by by earlier assertion that a fathers instincts are rarely wrong and cannot be lightly dismissed especially if there is other supporting evidence.
My response was "no", but rather I wanted them to "love and respect me". I don't leave my students behind at the classroom door, but for 9 months out of the year, they are part of my family. I do not text them, I do not call them, but sometimes in the evenings, I get the "aha" moment about how to deal with, or reach a student.
I like it when my own children tell me they "love" their teachers. It does not mean anything inappropriate happened.
That being said, not every teacher needs to love or like their students to teach them. However, to "love" them is nothing short of what Christ, Ghandi, Dr. King or the Dalai Lama would do, and they were all pretty good teachers.
And you are willing to put a man away for this? A father is programmed to protect his daughter. Of course he's going to believe what she says.
I remember reading stories about this when it first happened. I remember that the paper said he was a popular teacher. I remember reading that he had won awards.
I thought it was strange that a popular teacher would do this, because most child preditors send signals that tend to "creep out" more than one child.
I respect this father for supporting his daughter in the case. That's what fathers do. However, in this particular case, I believe that we should trust the instincts of the impartial judge who heard all of the facts.
Let it go. The district should pay the man his wages due, reinstate him along with benefits immediately, and let him get back to doing what he does best... educating our youth for low wages...
The girl (along with the "authorities" let the trial come about) is clearly a sociopath. While the other guy DID do things with her, it seems to have taught her that her "victim" role brought her the attention she felt she lacked. But when you blatantly lie like she did, it CAN backfire, just as it did here. She should be charged with perjury and false reporting, hopefully getting HER FULL NAME dragged through the mud in the press. That was what her lies got the good-hearted teacher. He should sue the girl, the school and the overzealous prosecution team for MORE than they're worth. The trial cost $$$. Don't taxpayers want to know who she is?
But to equivocate the statement of "I love you" to a girl friend to that of an adult male teacher to a teenage female student is just plain ignorant naivete.
I mean, have any of your many girl friends ever accused you of rape?
I personally knew a young lady who accused her coach of rape and he was also acquitted, although he did admit to consensual sex. I'm also familiar with a young man who was seduced by his high school teacher who was never charged because the young man was unwilling to make an accusation. Point is, IT DOES HAPPEN!
I don't know about you but where I come from we have our eyes wide open to the fact that if it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck, and acts like a duck, "It's a duck."
Was he responding to "No one cares about me, and I'm just gonna end it all!" or "If you REALLY cared about me, you'd leave the wife."
It all sounds like he was trying to help this "disadvantaged" (i.e. corrupted) girl and got caught up in a volatile sitution. These statements were part of a conversation, which has two sides unless you're hallucinating. You can't even guess at the meaning of his words unless you have HER words also.
This relates to the context, too...
Why act as if "love" automatically has the definition of that OTHER four-letter word? Just think about that when you're accused of incest for saying it to your parents.
For shame!
Possibly this girl is a poor victim in a very bad situation. Possibly she and her family are hoping the Goose will lay another golden egg, or possibly she is the sexual predator in pursuit of another victim. Most likely, it's all three. Where are the laws to protect the victims in that situation? COLD HARD EVIDENCE should ALWAYS be required, even in Utah!
Fact: This is the state that when a hate crimes bill was being heatedly debated in the state legislature, two men incidentally hacked the body of another man into multiple pieces and strew his body parts for miles up and down the Highway becauseBECAUSE THE MAN WAS GAY!, and the state hid this simple fact in the case to prevent the hate crimes bill from being passed.
My point is that Utah, reason and justice are NOT synonymous. Everyone I spoke to had assumed Mr. Fanjuls guilt well before the trial even began. I for one am glad that justice prevailed, a not-so-common event in Utah!
But, I'm going to trust the judge in this case and assume he is not guilty. Hopefully he's innocent (which is different than not guilty) as he appears to have been an outstanding member of the teaching community. I'm very happy for him and his family. Good luck with the next step Fanjul!
-Mr. Sanchez
He has. My son for one. I adopted him at 15 from an absent single mother living homeless from a life of drug abuse. He missed three years of elementary school and was struggling to catch up and resolve his past in High School. I met with Mr. Fanjul several times in our efforts to get my son through his class and was genuinely impressed by his sincere desire to make a difference in my sons lifewhich he has. We both have a deep respect and gratitude for Mr. Fanjul for being one of the few teachers who had the courage to really care.
The only reason she was transferred into Mr. Fanjuls class, mid semester, was because the other teacher went to the school administrators and told them she kept coming on to him. Finally, the teacher insisted that she be removed from his class and she was tranfered out.
Only then did the predator fix her eyes on her new prey.
And the prosecutor in this case, what a bone head for even taking the case to court.
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