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RE: Get Some Toughness | 7:02 p.m. June 3, 2009

Why would those other teams want those players?

It the system and the coach, folks!

Until that changes the jazz will get:

the same system,

the same TYPE of players, players that sloan wants and fits his system (and the jazz dwill get rid of tthe ones sloan doesn't like, how many offensive minded 2s and 3s have the jazz kept around, or has sloan played?),

and the same outcome, no championship.

Nancy | 7:36 p.m. June 3, 2009

Yes, I agree that the writer exercised ill will toward Boozer. For good or for bad Boozer is Boozer. If you don't like him on the Jazz team complain to the owner of the team. He's the one who can do something about it (i.e. let him go and replace him with someone else.) Stop whining, enough already.

Poor Boozer | 7:52 p.m. June 3, 2009

I actually feel sorry for Boozer. He is a very talented PF. He also have more problems than PH.

What I really care about is getting a winning team. If Boozer stays for a reasonable price and contributes that is great. If Boozer leaves and the Jazz get a decent replacement that is also great.

It is a business for both Boozer and the fans. I want to win (with or without Boozer). I am tired of slightly better than average (8th seed), early exits. The Jazz will not make the playoffs next year unless changes are made. Boozer and Sloan are good places to start.

If Boozer stays, plays hard and helps, then great, if not then best wishes.

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spirow | 9:59 p.m. June 3, 2009

Im sorry but the toronto raptors are not for a single second interested in boozer

Boozer's strategy | 10:17 p.m. June 3, 2009

I think every NBA team already knows Boozer history, maybe some other teams are gambling just like the Jazz 5 years ago hoping that Boozer will find the Jazz as his home team, but as we say it's a gamble and it didn't work out between the Jazz and Boozer, so some other teams are hoping that Boozer as talented as he is will find what team he really wants by taking a chance of acquiring him... as for the Jazz we should evaluate our options regarding Boozer, a "sign and trade" is I think the best option for both parties, eventhough if Boozer said he wants to stay but actually he really wants out but because of his poor performance last season with lots of missed games, he will try to impress other teams by playing one more year with the Jazz whether the team make the playoffs or not, therefore a more beautiful offer will likely happen by the end of next season for him, I think that's the strategy of Boozer so the Jazz must not be fooled on what he says like he wants to stay,really?

Marc | 10:25 p.m. June 3, 2009

Boozer's got to go! He can score when he wants to, but he gives up at least as much on the defensive end so really, he's giving us zero. I've been a die-hard Jazz fan for as long as I have been watching basketball (15 years) and never before have I heard Jazz fans boo one of their own "stars" off the floor. I heard it at least 4 times this season alone. It's true we probably won't get a Chris Bosh or any high profile star, but at least we will be getting rid of a high profile deadbeat! Let him go! At least Millsap works hard on both ends of the floor and puts up numbers while doing it.

DWILL | 12:23 a.m. June 4, 2009

Boozer is my man!! i want him back utah!! we need him. Give us another chance.

Great story.... | 6:51 a.m. June 4, 2009

Expressed my feelings to a T. BOOzer is lame...let's let some other NBA team pay BOOzer to sit the bench.

macnamara | 8:50 a.m. June 4, 2009

Yapp about something long enough and eventually it becomes Gospel. A handfull of you malcontents continually bag on Boozer about his defense and over time he becomes a bad defensive ball player.

For big men there's PTS, Rbds and defense. How many players in the league can do it all? With Boozer you get 20 and 10 every night with average defense. And his defense in spite of the way some of you paint it, is about the league average.

You people have vilified Carlos for so long you've started to believe your own lies.....Run him outta here! Trade him! Let him walk!.........Then your sorry asses are gonna wish to hell you had him back. What you're going to find is, he's not that easy to replace.

re:re: Boozer / Fisher | 9:48 a.m. June 4, 2009

Fisher was open from the very beginning and I read it in a DESERET NEWS article...mentioning the LA Lakers as a possibility of where he could end up.

Anyone who knows ANYTHING about Fisher knows that he is a straight up guy. Larry Miller released him and at that point he was free to sign with anyone that was close to his daughter's treatment.

Lakers were a mess at the time that he signed with them. There was no Pau Gasol, etc. NO ONE thought the Lakers would play in the finals last year!

On the Jazz team he was a back up player and with the Lakers he became a starter, so who had the deeper team at that time???

Boozer's deal with signing with Utah and leaving Cleveland hanging is very different. He got more money in Utah (if I remember right Fisher took a pay cut!!)

Would love to see the Lakers (and Fisher!) get another championship this year!

STEVE-O | 10:07 a.m. June 4, 2009

Are you the same macnamara that couldn't make the team? Or any NBA team for that matter! Is Macnamara your idea of a good basketball player? If that's the case I don't beleive your basketball IQ is up to snuff.

Calgary jazz | 10:57 a.m. June 4, 2009

Finally somebody from local media had the guts to write truth about worst defensive player ever to play on the Jazz and in all NBA's history - Boozer. Jazz are certainly better without him.
Thanks and only if you finally write something similar about Sloan?

reality | 11:01 a.m. June 4, 2009

Let's be realistic. While I agree that it's been tough to have Boozer miss so many games and to watch his sometimes awful defense, but who are the jazz going to get to replace him. there is no one in the league that the jazz can afford that can put up those numbers. Millsap is not there yet, and we don't know if he ever will be. Yes he had a very good 20 games, but that's it. And for all those complaining about the money, have you forgotten Andre Kirilenko? I would much rather put up with Boozer then to see Kirilenko's worthless game on the floor. Kirelenko hasn't done anything for the jazz!

J DUB | 4:30 p.m. June 4, 2009

Let's hope Booze opts out of his contract and walks. He can be somebody else's problem.

Miles | 4:35 p.m. June 4, 2009

@reality.....The reality is we can't get rid of AK but we can get rid of Boozer. If he stays we trade him, if he opts out we wave goodbye. Same with AK after next year. Then we can finally move forward with guys who want to play the game called basketball. AK is a baby and Carlos is all about Carlos. Neither one of them will ever win a championship in the NBA.

jord | 8:28 p.m. June 4, 2009

couldn't agree more. we need new blood in the line up. right now the Jazz will never beat the Lakers or any other elite team. you can't improve with the players we have, especially boozer. this season is as good as that group of players can ever be.

You have to be kidding | 11:11 p.m. June 4, 2009

An NBA player is lucky to have what, an eight year career? And you are calling a guy a mercenary for trying to maximize his value over that short career?

I think most people would jump at the chance to do the same job they are currently doing for better pay. In fact, to reject the opportunity to do so is downright stupid.

Keep sucking on those sour grapes, Doug, and if a bigger newspaper ever comes calling with a nice offer I hope you reject it out of principle.

Miles | 12:36 a.m. June 5, 2009

I don't think any is faulting Boozer for wanting the most money. They are faulting him for his lack of effort on the court and his massive injury list. Everyone is now questioning whether or not he is really worth that kind of money to keep him around given his track record. The consensus is he is not worth the money in the future and to let him walk.

Matt | 1:05 a.m. June 5, 2009

man, I almost lost it. People actually are afraid of potential deals being halted with other teams because of articles like this??? One journalist's opinion with countless comments attached underneath aren't being watched by NBA team execs. Don't flatter yourselves!

Jazz fan | 9:56 a.m. June 5, 2009

After watching the last few seasons I would agree that Boozer is unreliable and not consistant. He is not worth 70 million dollars. Really not many are. When he was in the game I never knew what was going to happen. I hope he leaves.

macnamara | 11:14 a.m. June 5, 2009

Greg Miller called Carlos a "Marquee Player". And Coach Sloan said, "Bottom line Boozer makes the team better." I'd bet the farm their assessment of him is closer to reality than all you juveniles combined.

gdog | 1:14 p.m. June 5, 2009

Hey Macnamera, You can bet your farm over to me if you want Sloan as your foundation of conviction. Sloan stopped smoking awhile back but still breathes in stupid fumes. If Boozer is so marquee, let him test the free agent waters in 2010. He knows a long term deal is right for his greed right now. Fine make your money elsewhere Boozer. If the Jazz pay this guy Memo's money, then kiss the real money man goodbye. The Jazz can also kiss my thousands of bucks a year goodbye as well. BOOZER IS WEAK.

Please Stop | 2:25 p.m. June 5, 2009

Can somebody tell me where we are replacing Boozers 20 and 10 a night if he does not re-sign here?

The fact is we are not replacing it and there is NOBODY on this roster who can. Millsap? Not even close.

I hate Boozers effort and I hate his defense and I hate his dumb classless PR comments that he makes.

All that said there is no way we should let Boozer go.

We should let Memo go and sign Gortat in his place. Then we should trade Ronnie Brewer for a shooting guard that can actually shoot. DUH!!!

Then Gortat can stand in the middle and defend like a Center is supposed to (and clean up for Boozers mess of a defensive effort).

Then our "shooting guard" should be the one shooting 3's to spread the floor.

There--problem solved.

You can still run the same PG to PF system but you have appropriate people at their proper positions instead of the abortion we have now. Center shooting 3's? Shooting guard who has to score at the rim or he is useless/totally ineffective?

Get the right people in the right slots and things will happen.

IMark | 2:30 p.m. June 5, 2009

@ you have to be kidding....

You are correct. Most of us would do the same thing, given a chance. It is just that we would not announce it to our boss over the intercom, before we had the new job locked up, and even then, we would have more class.

Boozer is talented, but mercenary. He plays hard, but without passion. He works out, quite obviously, but not as hard as he could, nor with the goal of being the best. OK is good enough for him, because it isn't about the game or winning. It is a job, and the NBA is a business. I am ok with that, but don't expect me to care for him when he is just an employee, just like the guy selling popcorn.

I would rather see the Jazz save their money and keep looking for the employee that is really passionate about the game. That is why I loved Stockton so much, and respected Jordan.

Tyler B | 3:38 p.m. June 5, 2009

The problem with saying this out loud is that we want Booz out of here, don't tell people not to take him from us!

Jason | 3:54 p.m. June 5, 2009

Boozer neds to get out of town quick, send him to toronto for bosh. With bosh we get boozers offensive numbers and someone who can actually play some D. Bosh and another defensive player = championship.

RE: macnamara | 4:18 p.m. June 5, 2009

You'ld be wrong!
And they are wrong.

2007-2008 season with a healthy boozer:

jazz: 54-28. lose in second round to lakers 2-4 (wiht boozer putting up bad number in the series)

2008-2009 season with boozer out most of the time:

jazz 48-34 lose in first round to lakers 1-4 (with boozer putting up good numbers in the series)

The fact is for all his millions and glory numbers he makes very litte difference,

(his offensive numbers are meaningless since the jazz system is designed for power forwards to score a lot, AK did, milssp did, so a even a moderetly talented PF can score a lot, in the jazz system the PF points are always inflated)

especially for one that is supposed to be the team star, the marquee player.

in other words, the jazz are wastng their BIG money on player that can NOT help them win a championship, but only a few more regular season games.

Ryano | 5:17 p.m. June 5, 2009

Would you trust Millsap (who I love) with the game on the line? Could you throw the ball down to him in the lane and ask him to go win a game for you? Boozer has done that for us before. He won us a game 7 in Houston, and against the Lakers this year. Millsap wore down starting 20 games for us. Millsap was who Boozer was 5 years ago when Utah signed him. So all the people who say Boozer has no heart. How do you know Millsap will be playing the same way in 5 years? Go look how Boozer played in Cleveland. He was a hustle player who would get rebounds and score off plays that weren't designed for him. Sound familiar? I don't understand why people start pointing there pitch forks at Ak instead of Boozer. He is the one sucking us dry at $15 mil a year. Ak makes more the Yao Ming and the same amount as Amare Stoudemire. He should be the one you want gone.

Steve from Jersey | 11:03 a.m. June 6, 2009

If the Jazz re-sign Boozer I'm done. I'll find another team to watch, I swear.

Re: Steve fron Jersey | 1:55 p.m. June 6, 2009

SEE YA..........

Sarcasam?!? Re:Miles | 12:21 p.m. June 9, 2009

Did you just say Amare (Stoudamire), at a MINIMUM? Sure, were it possible I'd even package Booze, AK, Korver, Brewer, Price, Harpring, Okur, Fesenko, Almond AND Millsap, to get HIM. But where does that really leave us PF-wise? You trade the mid-range shooting (Boozer), for a defensive presence, which I'm cool with, but with how upset we jazzfans seem to be over injury prone athletes, we would have to exclude Amare from our collective wish list. Perhaps you meant Amir (Johnson, DET). Hey, I don't think he's ever been injured! Of course you're sort of protected when you're the 11th man on a roster.
P.S. I'd take D. Brown (Xavier) with the 20th pick, a gamble but nobody wows me that late in the draft anyways, at least you get an athletic FREAK ;}

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