I know a nonmember who says I am hording. I told her I am not. She said she would help anyone anytime. I asked, " What if you don't HAVE the storage to help?" She said nothing. We cannot help others if we do not help ourselves first. Too simple!

I think Misty is making a fair point here;but i can also see her friends(i am assuming this) point of view...I am a non-member and never will be one;however my wife is a born and bred BYU Mormon and i have to encourage her to store up on essentials in case of emergencies..Of course, i grew up where there were lots of hurricanes;so perhaps i have an enhanced point of view...However,i do believe some folks are so obsessive about food storage that they give the impression of hoarding:and while it is reasonable and wise to store up for unforseen circumstances there is a point where it becomes redundant...For instance,ample storage might hold you over in case of a flood,tornado,typhoon,or wildfire where supply lines are cut...In the case of a nuclear event it is an entirely different scenerio...I am disposed to help when i can regardless of how much i possess(i will admit to being fortunate)the Lord did not say i will aid you when my storage is ample and secure;he did it at high cost to himself...

Self-reliance isn't selfish--but demanding that others be self-reliant is.

I know of a few members of the Utah legislature who believe that it is immoral to support any program that would help the poor, based on these doctrines of self-reliance. Refusing to help others because we believe in being self-reliant is as selfish as it gets.

What is this so called self-reliance? TBM cannot and will not do anything without consulting thier bishop or from things dictated by the church. Members are hoarders and consumed with self preservation but that is what we have been taught.

REF: Ken 2:26pm
I think you missed the lesson. Joseph Smith said we teach the principals, It is up to each individule to govern themselves. I do not have to consult my Bishop about self reliance and food storage, it only makes sense to be prepared in case of job loss, illness and emergencys of any kind. Floods, hurricanes, earthquakes and other natral disasters happen. If you are not prepared and think you can just pop in to pickup needed supplys at you nearest store think again, because unless you are really speedy there won't be much left because to few people will have been prepared. To be self reliant does not mean hoarding, it means to have enough to supply you and your families needs and to help others that are not prepared. I know of families that have lived on home storage for months because of illness and job loss so it does pay to be prepared. He that is prepared has nothing to fear.