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Arson suspected in LDS chapel fire
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The fact that there was minimal damage tells me that current decisions on various items to be used in Churh buildings, from class to curtains to brick, is a wise investment in money if they keep fires from spreading.
However I am unconvinced that a major expenditure to lessen arson and vandalism is worth while. I would rather see the money used to build new chapels and temples where they are desperately needed, such as Trujillo and maybe even Arequipa.
Or it could just be some kids committing arson indiscriminately.
This is the meeting place of 3 Wards. The Fire Department responded quickly and a Fire Wall held real well, so the Chapel was saved, however everything else was destroyed.
What impressed me was the orderliness and leadership that was displayed by Ward and Stake Leaders. Within 24hrs we had our New meeting Place and Schedule, and the word was out by Coconut Wireless, Cell Phones, and Visits.
Eash Ward joined the Ward meeting at the Stake Center at the same time. We shared for about a month, then with the help of Port A Potties and Trailers for Offices we where able to hold services at our Chapel. For other things we had to continue to share for 2 years.
Our new Building is lovely and we have our Old Chapel Extensively Refurbished. It is almost the size of a Stake Center. 21st Century Fire Retardant Materials where used. We are all thankful.
Holier than thou??? | 5:55 a.m. May 16, 2009
Maybe that "holier than thou" attitude is a Utah thing??? I have lived in unnumeral parts of the country and the church is always the same and have never noticed anyone feeling "holier than thou?" That is very sad.
How about Gays, Blacks and women? How about prop????
Seems they feel pretty holier than them!
Bravo! Being prepared for any possibility is a good thing.
Now you know how the victims of LDS persecution feel! Come down from your pedestal, God is humbling the Saints so maybe LDS can find common ground with those who in many cases it drives to depression & suicide.
We in other places say that Utah Mormons are different and they are holier then thou. That they could not be active if they lived in Utah.
I would love to have a Ward with the Population and Services that I see on BYU TV Sunday Morning. Of course that would be in Hawaii, so the population would be very mixed. Other then that the same.
I would be okay in Utah because 1. would I would Not have a chip on my shoulder. 2. Dig in do work and make a friend or five. In Safford and Oregon, I sat in a Sea of White. Less so in Las Vegas and Not so in Hawaii. At the Start it bothered me in part. Until I met Harry Bailey who sat for 30 years waiting for the Priesthood. My Daughter is Named after him.
When I am offended it is usually because of Me and not them.
We miss the Hawaiian Style and the Inner Court Yard that separated in part the buildings and was most likely the reason the Chapel was saved. We miss the Breeze and sometimes the Rain. We are very close to both Ocean and Mountains. Hawaiians Blood or Not truly love their land.
Sometimes Culture Trumps Religion out here and some adjustments are made along the way.
What we have in common is the Gospel, and the belief that the Church is True. We are at the End Of The World but we have Cable and Dishes and High Speed Modems. An Hawaiian never met an Electronic Gadget he/she didnt like.
If you are inactive using the excuse that someone offended you or the people are thus and so, and your thus and so, the only one who suffers is you.
Out here sometimes even Priencess Kiss Frogs, and have great kids.
If I was a betting man, I would counter that it was either LDS teenagers or a bitter LDS adult.
This quick to judge mentality is precisely why Utah members have such difficulty with non-members in our community.
It also has a name prejudice.
Judging people, even if they have made bad mistakes, will never bring people closer to God but truly loving them will.
I condemn those who did what they did to your church building, but I think that most of the religions that exist have failed to truly love, guide and help and that is why people stay away from religious though they may seek God. The best way to teach the Gospel is through acts of love. Preaching are just words but acts truly speak to human heart.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
But what do liberals know about the constitution or the Bill of Rights that limits their precious gov't power they so love and crave.
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