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Re: realitycheck@12:14 continued | 1:00 p.m. April 29, 2009
Christ wasn't born perfect. He lived valiantly enough to achieve
perfection.
Pete in Texas
Pete in Texas
Re: realitycheck | 12:14 p.m. | 1:01 p.m. April 29, 2009
There is no conclusive evidence that anyone is "born gay." The same
arguments used to argue for people "born gay" could also be used for
people who are "born pedophile" or "born sadomasochist."
Just because someone has a preference for a particular behavior, whether or not
that preference was manifest from their earliest years, does not necessarily
make that behavior good or normal.
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realitycheck | 3:25 p.m. April 29, 2009
to - wrong reality check | 12:55
["2%-3% of humans decide they are gay, or decide that being gay feels better because now you don't have a moral diemma"]
we'll assume your religious leaders told you that. Too bad they don't have any degrees. If you ask an actual degreed person that knows what they are talking about and has studied more than the bible, they will explain how wrong you are.
do you REALLY think anyone actually CHOOSES to be gay and be outcast and ridiculed by society? If so, you're not nearly as bright as we gave you credit for, and answering your post is simply a waste of time.
["2%-3% of humans decide they are gay, or decide that being gay feels better because now you don't have a moral diemma"]
we'll assume your religious leaders told you that. Too bad they don't have any degrees. If you ask an actual degreed person that knows what they are talking about and has studied more than the bible, they will explain how wrong you are.
do you REALLY think anyone actually CHOOSES to be gay and be outcast and ridiculed by society? If so, you're not nearly as bright as we gave you credit for, and answering your post is simply a waste of time.
realitycheck | 3:35 p.m. April 29, 2009
re - pete 12:57pm
["If 2%-3% of civilization is born with one leg missing or just one eye, would you say those were normal?"]
so in your logic, the people missing a leg should not have the same rights everyone else has... perhaps we shouldn't have buildings with handicap access...
["We aren't defined by what our weaknesses are, only by how valiant we are in overcoming them."]
so you would consider someone born missing a leg to have a "weakness"? and you compare that to a gay person... so the one-legged man should overcome his "handicap" and so should the gay person...
while I understand your reasoning, a gay person looks just like you and me (assuming they aren't a raging flamer) and while the one-legged man can take physical therapy, you want the gay person to take mental therapy...
it's not a disease or a deformity. I know you look at it like that, but that's because you find it IMMORAL! If no one ever told you, and it wasn't written in your bible, you probably wouldn't have a problem with it....
["If 2%-3% of civilization is born with one leg missing or just one eye, would you say those were normal?"]
so in your logic, the people missing a leg should not have the same rights everyone else has... perhaps we shouldn't have buildings with handicap access...
["We aren't defined by what our weaknesses are, only by how valiant we are in overcoming them."]
so you would consider someone born missing a leg to have a "weakness"? and you compare that to a gay person... so the one-legged man should overcome his "handicap" and so should the gay person...
while I understand your reasoning, a gay person looks just like you and me (assuming they aren't a raging flamer) and while the one-legged man can take physical therapy, you want the gay person to take mental therapy...
it's not a disease or a deformity. I know you look at it like that, but that's because you find it IMMORAL! If no one ever told you, and it wasn't written in your bible, you probably wouldn't have a problem with it....
realitycheck | 3:49 p.m. April 29, 2009
and Pete -
you keep using the term "normal". It is the goal of a decent society to have all human beings treated equally and fairly. You see a one-legged man and think "look - a one-legged man". I guarantee you, that man would rather you think "look - another human being". That's what black people wanted and still, you probably think "look - a black person" instead of "look - a human being".
you are way too judgemental. and by the way, I'm not offended at all. I'm a white, heterosexual married man. I just think it's really easy to make your arguments on "morals" and "abnormal" but standing up for a minority is difficult. I marched in the 60s and I'd do it again. Being critical of others is the easy way out. Standing up for their rights even when you don't agree with them is what real americans do. Everyone should be treated the same, and it's none of our business if some people want to be with people of the same sex. It harms no one and it makes them happy so what is your problem with it?
you keep using the term "normal". It is the goal of a decent society to have all human beings treated equally and fairly. You see a one-legged man and think "look - a one-legged man". I guarantee you, that man would rather you think "look - another human being". That's what black people wanted and still, you probably think "look - a black person" instead of "look - a human being".
you are way too judgemental. and by the way, I'm not offended at all. I'm a white, heterosexual married man. I just think it's really easy to make your arguments on "morals" and "abnormal" but standing up for a minority is difficult. I marched in the 60s and I'd do it again. Being critical of others is the easy way out. Standing up for their rights even when you don't agree with them is what real americans do. Everyone should be treated the same, and it's none of our business if some people want to be with people of the same sex. It harms no one and it makes them happy so what is your problem with it?
Ryan | 3:51 p.m. April 29, 2009
People are not born gay.. They are born more inclined to participate in
homosexual behavior. Everyone is different and has different carnal desires that
they can give into if they choose, homosexuality is one of them. Some people are
more inclined to be alcoholics, use drugs, or participate in promiscuous sex but
that does not make it right and socially acceptable. Homosexuality is not
harmful to others like drugs or alcohol so it is considered to be a choice like
premarital sex. The gay agenda however is going far overboard in promoting
their cause and has started to get people like me to be less tolerant of them. I
think it would be better if they just went back to their closets and stayed
there.
realitycheck | 4:13 p.m. April 29, 2009
re - Ryan | 3:51 p.m.
["Everyone is different and has different carnal desires that they can give into if they choose"]
why is it all religious people think being gay is about sex? I really don't think it is. I think it's about being with someone you are comfortable with. Have you seen the pictures of who's getting married?
["I think it would be better if they just went back to their closets and stayed there"]
I'm sure you do feel that way, but again it is simply your intolerance and your upbringing. If you had been taught at an early age to be tolerant of the differences in people, you wouldn't say that. So now gays are trying to get people brought up to be tolerant. And it looks to me like thay are succeeding, since most young people think same-sex marriage is ok, while the old crew (or at least most of them) are against it. Oh, and the religious self-rightous are against it too, and their children (and their children) will always be like that. Religion isn't known for tolerance, in fact quite the opposite is true...
["Everyone is different and has different carnal desires that they can give into if they choose"]
why is it all religious people think being gay is about sex? I really don't think it is. I think it's about being with someone you are comfortable with. Have you seen the pictures of who's getting married?
["I think it would be better if they just went back to their closets and stayed there"]
I'm sure you do feel that way, but again it is simply your intolerance and your upbringing. If you had been taught at an early age to be tolerant of the differences in people, you wouldn't say that. So now gays are trying to get people brought up to be tolerant. And it looks to me like thay are succeeding, since most young people think same-sex marriage is ok, while the old crew (or at least most of them) are against it. Oh, and the religious self-rightous are against it too, and their children (and their children) will always be like that. Religion isn't known for tolerance, in fact quite the opposite is true...
Re: realitycheck | 4:31 p.m. April 29, 2009
You are dodging the point you tried to make earlier. You were trying to make the
point that if they were born with it, it should be classified as normal. I have
a brother who was born with a partially paralyzed right side. He knows that
being born that way doesn't make him any less of an individual than anyone
else, but he never tries to fool anyone into believing it's
"normal". If you are arguing that 2-3 percent of people are born with
gay tendencies, then it is perfectly safe to say those aren't the
"norm". If those 2-3% are offended by that statement, then
they're way too sensitive. Don't get offended by it. It is what it is.
Don't try to make it look like I am saying anything other than what I am.
And as far as you saying that "standing up for minorities is what real Americans do", now you're the resident expert on what it takes to be a real American? I'll bet you cheer for the Detriot Lions as well..... sheesh. Vegas LOVES you.....
Pete in Texas
And as far as you saying that "standing up for minorities is what real Americans do", now you're the resident expert on what it takes to be a real American? I'll bet you cheer for the Detriot Lions as well..... sheesh. Vegas LOVES you.....
Pete in Texas
to Pete 1pm | 4:57 p.m. April 29, 2009
just because you believe that doesn't give you the right to tread on others
rights. keep your religious beliefs out of the equation and maybe you can see
the light...
Whiny people..... | 4:58 p.m. April 29, 2009
I'm a little tired of you "ever-the-victim" gays whining about
all your rights being denied. Cry me a river because I just don't care to
hear for the millionth time that you should get your "rights". As I
understand it, there ARE states that are granting you all the "rights"
you want. Move there and you're life will be happier. Noone is making you
stay. You're obviously mad at Utah and everyone around you
"victimizing" you your whole life. Take your gay lifestyle and your
gay ideas and have a gay-old-time in one of the more liberal states. Quit trying
to change mine. I'm happy here with the laws the way they are. You can be
happy there since they're granting you what you want. If you're upset
at the federal government for denying you still.... write to them. I SERIOUSLY
doubt they're reading the D-News and are going to change their policies
because of this paper. Iowa awaits.... I'd spring for half of the Greyhound
bus fare, but you'd probably cry that I'm not covering the whole
thing. You're "adults". Then MOVE!
realitycheck | 5:06 p.m. April 29, 2009
and you are dodging the point that everyone should be treated the same. No one
cares whether you think being paralyzed or gay is normal or not normal. But I
wouldn't tell your brother that he's "abnormal". It would
be an insult to him, and rude, and just not right. And you wouldn't like
it if I did say that to him.
so why do you think it's ok for you to call 2%-3% of the population "abnormal"? Do you go to the special olympics and yell out "hey all you abnormal people - how you doing?" well, do you?
or maybe you do...
and yes - americans always stand up for the oppressed and the underdog, and tries to give everyone the same rights. If you haven't figured that out, then I don't know what to tell you...
so your biggest problem is you misuse the word "normal". In case you haven't figured it out yet, the opposite of "normal" is "abnormal" - and no one wants to be called "abnormal". perhaps you should try average versus not your average person. Or you could just continue to offend people.
so why do you think it's ok for you to call 2%-3% of the population "abnormal"? Do you go to the special olympics and yell out "hey all you abnormal people - how you doing?" well, do you?
or maybe you do...
and yes - americans always stand up for the oppressed and the underdog, and tries to give everyone the same rights. If you haven't figured that out, then I don't know what to tell you...
so your biggest problem is you misuse the word "normal". In case you haven't figured it out yet, the opposite of "normal" is "abnormal" - and no one wants to be called "abnormal". perhaps you should try average versus not your average person. Or you could just continue to offend people.
Oppressed and underdog | 5:25 p.m. April 29, 2009
I'm trying to figure out when it was we, as Americans, stood up for the
"oppressed" Indians? It must have been as we took these lands from
them and then put them on reservations. Is that what you're talking about?
Yeah, now I understand what you're saying about Americans. Shoot.... I
can't wait until the gays outnumber the straights so that you'll have
to stand up for the straights..... I'm sure you'll do it then because
that's what Americans do..... get ready to switch sides.
to Whiny people..... | 4:58 p.m | 5:29 p.m. April 29, 2009
no - we're all moving to Utah. actually there are tens of thousands of us
here already, so you might want to move to a country that follows religious law,
like Iran or Saudi Arabia...
i'm sure mormons would be more than welcome there - you'll get to feel what it is really like to be ostrasized - right before they behead you...
i'm sure mormons would be more than welcome there - you'll get to feel what it is really like to be ostrasized - right before they behead you...
realitycheck | 5:37 p.m. April 29, 2009
["I'm trying to figure out when it was we, as Americans, stood up for
the "oppressed" Indians? It must have been as we took these lands from
them and then put them on reservations"]
so I guess you are proud of that... or do you figure two wrongs make a right?
so I guess you are proud of that... or do you figure two wrongs make a right?
to: reality check | 5:47 p.m. April 29, 2009
it's easy to blame god isn't it? gays are sinful. if science came out
and said that serial killers were born that way, i suppose we should legalize
murder, right? after all, it makes alot more sense scientifically to kill
someone who is weaker to get ahead. after all, he we are saying how animals can
be gay to so it must be they were born that way. we were also born with an
instinct to destroy whatever is a threat to us. hows that for a reality check,
huh, "reality check"?
2 wrongs ...... | 7:09 p.m. April 29, 2009
Hmmm... lemme see about the two wrongs equalling a right.....
Gay lifestyle... (according to the bible) = wrong.
Two gays get together = them screaming for "rights".
Yeah, I guess two wrong DOES equal them screaming for "rights".
Go figure.......
Gay lifestyle... (according to the bible) = wrong.
Two gays get together = them screaming for "rights".
Yeah, I guess two wrong DOES equal them screaming for "rights".
Go figure.......
realitycheck | 11:25 a.m. April 30, 2009
re - 2 wrongs ...... | 7:09 p.m
["Gay lifestyle... (according to the bible) = wrong"]
well, there's your problem. You think just because the bible says something, that's the "word of God" and everyone should abide by it. I can't argue with religious zealots...
re - to: reality check | 5:47 p.m
["it's easy to blame god isn't it? gays are sinful."]
who said anything about God? and it's only you and your religious bretheren that think being gay is a sin.
["if science came out and said that serial killers were born that way, i suppose we should legalize murder, right?"]
that's stupid. Murder harms others, obviously. Being gay and gays getting married doesn't harm anyone (except your overly-zealous morals). So at least try to make a decent arguement.
["after all, he we are saying how animals can be gay to so it must be they were born that way. we were also born with an instinct to destroy whatever is a threat to us. hows that for a reality check, huh, "reality check"?"]
I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say here but it sounds ridiculous...
["Gay lifestyle... (according to the bible) = wrong"]
well, there's your problem. You think just because the bible says something, that's the "word of God" and everyone should abide by it. I can't argue with religious zealots...
re - to: reality check | 5:47 p.m
["it's easy to blame god isn't it? gays are sinful."]
who said anything about God? and it's only you and your religious bretheren that think being gay is a sin.
["if science came out and said that serial killers were born that way, i suppose we should legalize murder, right?"]
that's stupid. Murder harms others, obviously. Being gay and gays getting married doesn't harm anyone (except your overly-zealous morals). So at least try to make a decent arguement.
["after all, he we are saying how animals can be gay to so it must be they were born that way. we were also born with an instinct to destroy whatever is a threat to us. hows that for a reality check, huh, "reality check"?"]
I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say here but it sounds ridiculous...
Re: realitycheck@11:25 | 11:53 a.m. April 30, 2009
Yeah.... silly me. I believe in God and THAT'S my problem. I should be more
enlightened and dismiss that silly notion since it's old school. I'm
guessing that's what the gays have done. Modernized their thinking to
exclude God since He would be the one they'd have to answer to for their
lifestyles. If God is gone, so are any consequences. Now I understand why they
use the word "gay".... I'd be happy as well if there were no
consequences to anything I did wrong in my life. I'm gonna try that with my
new speeding ticket..... if there's no judge to tell me I was speeding,
there's no fine to pay.... wow.... that smile just crept onto my face. No
responsibility. No consequences. Life is GOOD!!!
YA'LL ARE GENIUS'S!!!! Count me as a believer.
Pete in Texas
YA'LL ARE GENIUS'S!!!! Count me as a believer.
Pete in Texas
Q? | 11:59 a.m. April 30, 2009
Why is it that those who scream the loudest for tolerance are themselves the
least tolerant towards the views of others?
Anonymous | 12:21 p.m. April 30, 2009
Robinson, get your head out and get real. This is 2009 and life is good if you
haven't missed it already.
right reality check | 12:23 p.m. April 30, 2009
Right on reality check. You are my hero.
realitycheck | 12:37 p.m. April 30, 2009
TO - Re: realitycheck@11:25 | 11:53 a.m
["Yeah.... silly me. I believe in God and THAT'S my problem. I should be more enlightened and dismiss that silly notion since it's old school"]
no. The point is you can't (or shouldn't) push your religious beliefs into law, which is what you are doing by preventing harmless gay people from getting married. You are using your religious beliefs to hold down people that have done absolutely nothing to you, and their actions harm no one.
You keep talking about God, but you mean YOUR God. Not everyone has the same beliefs as you. See how mormons do in the middle east. Or try to convert Chinese. They have an ENTIRELY different belief system than you, and and ENTIRELY DIFFERENT GOD.
you can't use your religious beliefs to create or maintain laws because not everyone believes the same things you do. That's why we have separation of church and state. To keep the zealots out of it...
sorry to burst your bubble, Pete - but your God has nothing to do with the laws of the country....
["Yeah.... silly me. I believe in God and THAT'S my problem. I should be more enlightened and dismiss that silly notion since it's old school"]
no. The point is you can't (or shouldn't) push your religious beliefs into law, which is what you are doing by preventing harmless gay people from getting married. You are using your religious beliefs to hold down people that have done absolutely nothing to you, and their actions harm no one.
You keep talking about God, but you mean YOUR God. Not everyone has the same beliefs as you. See how mormons do in the middle east. Or try to convert Chinese. They have an ENTIRELY different belief system than you, and and ENTIRELY DIFFERENT GOD.
you can't use your religious beliefs to create or maintain laws because not everyone believes the same things you do. That's why we have separation of church and state. To keep the zealots out of it...
sorry to burst your bubble, Pete - but your God has nothing to do with the laws of the country....
Puh-leeease | 1:05 p.m. April 30, 2009
Some of you are criticizing Miss California for not expressing herself very
well. I agree that a few words were misplaced, but I would recommend you listen
to the bumbling of Pres. Obama when his teleprompter messes up, or when
he's asked a question for which he doesn't have a scripted answer.
Miss California wins hands down. At least half of what she says is clear.
not mormon | 2:12 p.m. April 30, 2009
Re: realitycheck@12:14 continued | 1:00 p.m.
-"Christ wasn't born perfect. He lived valiantly enough to achieve perfection.
Pete in Texas"-
so says you. But I'm a Buddahist and I think you're crazy....
-"Christ wasn't born perfect. He lived valiantly enough to achieve perfection.
Pete in Texas"-
so says you. But I'm a Buddahist and I think you're crazy....
re - Puh-leeease | 1:05 p.m | 2:44 p.m. April 30, 2009
-"Some of you are criticizing Miss California for not expressing herself
very well.... At least half of what she says is clear"-
true - and the other half was obscured by how beautiful she is. Hey - I'd vote for her, and I'm a no-on-8 voter....
tell her to run for Republican VP next time - she'd get more votes than Sarah Palin...
true - and the other half was obscured by how beautiful she is. Hey - I'd vote for her, and I'm a no-on-8 voter....
tell her to run for Republican VP next time - she'd get more votes than Sarah Palin...
It's not my bubble... | 3:59 p.m. April 30, 2009
Let me ask this question: what is the purpose of laws? Aren't laws supposed
to be made for the betterment of society? Aren't they established to try
and preserve what is right and good? So who has determined what is right and
good? If noone had decided that theft was wrong, why makes laws governing it? So
if laws are made and passed to try and hold us to the standard of being a better
people/society, what is the standard we are using to gauge it against? It
can't be human opinion because we all have different opinions. It
can't be popular vote or we've defeated trying to figure out
what's right/good and replaced it with what's popular. That is where
God comes in. And as far as I know, being a Christian, I look to the bible for
guidance about right and good just as other religions look to their sacred
texts. So, when you say you're "bursting my bubble but God has nothing
to do with the laws of the country", I would wonder that without God, what
is our standard?
Pete in Texas
Pete in Texas
Born Gay? | 4:22 p.m. April 30, 2009
"Since 2%-3% of all people born are gay, you are saying that 2%-3% of all
people born are perverse."
How in the world do you know that people are "born" gay? Do you know of one person who remembers from the moment they were born that they were "gay?" Come on.
How in the world do you know that people are "born" gay? Do you know of one person who remembers from the moment they were born that they were "gay?" Come on.
Anonymous | 4:25 p.m. April 30, 2009
Yes, and she sounded illiterate. What does this say for the silent
majority's intelligence? If you can't take pride in how you speak, you
message seems stupid.
to Pete 3:59pm | 4:29 p.m. April 30, 2009
laws are made to prevent others from being harmed, or to prevent society from
being harmed. They are not to prevent us from harming ourselves (although there
are some exceptions, but personally I believe those are bad laws...)
your problem is you believe society will be harmed by SSM, when there is no evidence of that.
Regardless, the laws in this country are supposed to seperate church and state, so while you are free to have your opinion, you are not free to impose your religious beliefs on others. And your stand on SSM appears to be strictly a religious stance.
your problem is you believe society will be harmed by SSM, when there is no evidence of that.
Regardless, the laws in this country are supposed to seperate church and state, so while you are free to have your opinion, you are not free to impose your religious beliefs on others. And your stand on SSM appears to be strictly a religious stance.
re - Born Gay? | 4:22 p.m | 4:32 p.m. April 30, 2009
["How in the world do you know that people are "born" gay? Do you
know of one person who remembers from the moment they were born that they were
"gay?" Come on."]
How in the world do you know that people are "born" heterosexual?
Do you know of one person who remembers from the moment they were born that they were heterosexual?Come on.....
How in the world do you know that people are "born" heterosexual?
Do you know of one person who remembers from the moment they were born that they were heterosexual?Come on.....
Mela | 4:42 p.m. April 30, 2009
re: Whiney People - thank you and ditto!
Kudos to Miss California for speaking her mind and doing so in a polite respectful manner.
Jeers to Hilton for his vulgar behavior afterwards. You're hurting your own case.
Kudos to Miss California for speaking her mind and doing so in a polite respectful manner.
Jeers to Hilton for his vulgar behavior afterwards. You're hurting your own case.
re - Born Gay? | 4:54 p.m. April 30, 2009
"How in the world do you know that people are "born"
heterosexual?"
How do I know? Actually, I don't know. Which is why asking the question to explain sexuality is lame.
How do I know? Actually, I don't know. Which is why asking the question to explain sexuality is lame.
Born gay? | 5:04 p.m. April 30, 2009
"Since 2%-3% of all people born are gay"
Again, where do people get this overused cliche that a person is "born" a certain way? Oh that's right, they get it from the need to explain away their behavior.
Again, where do people get this overused cliche that a person is "born" a certain way? Oh that's right, they get it from the need to explain away their behavior.
re Born gay? | 5:04 p.m | 10:38 a.m. May 1, 2009
does it really matter if they are born that way or that's just the way they
want to be?
what's the difference? how does that change anything?
what's the difference? how does that change anything?
Frank Castle | 10:53 a.m. May 1, 2009
I love how you social conservatives pick your so called heroes.
Ms California is guilty of "enhancing her talents" but its okay because she is against gay marriage?
She is lacking in integrity but not silicon.
Ms California is guilty of "enhancing her talents" but its okay because she is against gay marriage?
She is lacking in integrity but not silicon.
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If 2%-3% of civilization is born with one leg missing or just one eye, would you say those were normal? So if you did classify them as normal, you're saying the 97%-98% of people born with both legs or both eyes are abnormal? Don't get all ticked off at the words I am using. I never suggested "inferior" in any sense, only "normal". (You need to understand some of these terms before you hop on the angry wagon.)
I, too, hope that none of my grandkids are gay, but not because I hope everyone is like me as you stated. It would be sad to be born with any kind of tendency that is not natural and that they may have to struggle through in this life. That being said, I believe that anyone born gay isn't necessarily any worse of an individual than I am. We aren't defined by what our weaknesses are, only by how valiant we are in overcoming them.
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