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Road kill: Jazz's situation leads to 8th place, series with L.A.
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todd from santa ana | 11:42 p.m. April 15, 2009
the biggest chance i see of 1st round upset anywhere is 2 matchups #5 Miami over
#4 Atlanta and yes you make think I am nuts but# #6 Dallas over #3 Spurs.
Portland-Houston flip a coin. Denver over New Orleans in 6
THEeyepatch | 11:46 p.m. April 15, 2009
Call it the curse of the Chicago Bulls. I can't think of a important road
playoff game the Jazz have won since the game five in the '98 finals. Maybe
the curse of MJ.
I am not sure | 12:02 a.m. April 16, 2009
If Miller, Rigby, KOC or Sloan deserved most of the blame. However, I and others
have repeatedly made the case all year long that Collins was not an acceptable
back up Center.
This is nothing against Collins. I think he plays the best that he can and that is all you can ask of him.
However, early in the year Koufos played well. I am sure he can play better now. However, Sloan will not play him. If Koufos is not the answer then why did not the Jazz get a decent back up Center before the trade deadline?
I am not sure if that is KOC or above him or if Sloan had a lot of input. That one decision cost about 6 or more losses during the season.
The Jazz would have had enough to win back to backs and would have played better on the road while Boozer was out.
The management knew there was a chance that Boozer would not be 100% and might not integrate well on return.
I for one am looking for another playoff team to root for. I have had it with the Jazz management. They play to lose and did.
This is nothing against Collins. I think he plays the best that he can and that is all you can ask of him.
However, early in the year Koufos played well. I am sure he can play better now. However, Sloan will not play him. If Koufos is not the answer then why did not the Jazz get a decent back up Center before the trade deadline?
I am not sure if that is KOC or above him or if Sloan had a lot of input. That one decision cost about 6 or more losses during the season.
The Jazz would have had enough to win back to backs and would have played better on the road while Boozer was out.
The management knew there was a chance that Boozer would not be 100% and might not integrate well on return.
I for one am looking for another playoff team to root for. I have had it with the Jazz management. They play to lose and did.
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The only reason | 12:28 a.m. April 16, 2009
the Jazz are even in the playoffs is because the management/coaching of the PHO
Suns is actually worse than that of the Jazz.
Stop and think about how bad the management of the Suns is and still the Jazz barely eked in. What if Amare had not gotten hurt?
That gives you an idea of how badly the Jazz need some major house cleaning top to bottom.
Stop and think about how bad the management of the Suns is and still the Jazz barely eked in. What if Amare had not gotten hurt?
That gives you an idea of how badly the Jazz need some major house cleaning top to bottom.
todd to above | 1:45 a.m. April 16, 2009
why i scan these board on and off all day is I look for actual intelligent
takes.
the one above me excellent. Backup Center Gee No interest in Mikki Moore but he was good enough for the Celtics.
WE SEEMINGLY AFTER IT LIKELY ENDS SHORTLY WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST PROPOSALS FOR TRADE. THAT MEANS THE "SMART ONES YES HUMBLY INCLUDING ME AND HANDSOME TOO BY THE WAY, WILL HAVE TO DO O CONNOR'S WORK FOR HIM. HE CAN CLOSE THE DEAL AND WE WILL ASK FOR COMISSION.
BUT OF COURSE, TO "I AM NOT SURE" YOU KNOW 1/4 TO 1/2 THE BOARD WILL SAY WE ARE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF ENOUGH OF THIS TEAM, COACH SLOAN HALL OF FAMER, DEATHS, DIVORCES, ETC ETC...YOU KNOW SOMETHING 2 OF THE PLAYERS WHO KILLED US LAST WEEK WITH GOLDEN STATE, SLAM MAGAZINE RIDICULED THEYR'E NBA ABILITY. BY THE WAY SORRY TO TELL YOU THE 2 BEST POINTS IN THE LEAGUE PLAYED A GAME TONIGHT I HOPE ALL OF YOU WERE PRIVILEGED TO WITNESS-PAUL VS TONY PARKER, GREAT GREAT BASKETBALL. GOOD RIVALRY. DWIL I LOVE BUT HE IS YET IN THIS CATEGORY..
the one above me excellent. Backup Center Gee No interest in Mikki Moore but he was good enough for the Celtics.
WE SEEMINGLY AFTER IT LIKELY ENDS SHORTLY WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST PROPOSALS FOR TRADE. THAT MEANS THE "SMART ONES YES HUMBLY INCLUDING ME AND HANDSOME TOO BY THE WAY, WILL HAVE TO DO O CONNOR'S WORK FOR HIM. HE CAN CLOSE THE DEAL AND WE WILL ASK FOR COMISSION.
BUT OF COURSE, TO "I AM NOT SURE" YOU KNOW 1/4 TO 1/2 THE BOARD WILL SAY WE ARE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF ENOUGH OF THIS TEAM, COACH SLOAN HALL OF FAMER, DEATHS, DIVORCES, ETC ETC...YOU KNOW SOMETHING 2 OF THE PLAYERS WHO KILLED US LAST WEEK WITH GOLDEN STATE, SLAM MAGAZINE RIDICULED THEYR'E NBA ABILITY. BY THE WAY SORRY TO TELL YOU THE 2 BEST POINTS IN THE LEAGUE PLAYED A GAME TONIGHT I HOPE ALL OF YOU WERE PRIVILEGED TO WITNESS-PAUL VS TONY PARKER, GREAT GREAT BASKETBALL. GOOD RIVALRY. DWIL I LOVE BUT HE IS YET IN THIS CATEGORY..
Anonymous | 6:59 a.m. April 16, 2009
1st round sweep at worst! We win one game at home at the very best! I HAVE NO
FAITH IN THE JAZZ! Pack your bags already and go on vacation! Let's see
what the off-season brings us!
PLEASE STOP | 7:27 a.m. April 16, 2009
beating up on the Jazz. They are what they are. Theyare never going to be any
better with the players and management they have. Just accept it. They
can't give what they haven't got. Boozer is Boozer. Accept that he an
average player at best. We need to love them for what they are or send them
back to New Orleans where they came from. They are just an average team. That
is all they are ever going to be. Let's just be glad they made the
playoff. They are making money. Isn't that the bottom line?
Game 7 in HOU | 7:40 a.m. April 16, 2009
"Call it the curse of the Chicago Bulls. I can't think of a important
road playoff game the Jazz have won since the game five in the '98 finals.
Maybe the curse of MJ."
I think Game 7 at Houston two years ago was a pretty big win for the Jazz.
I think Game 7 at Houston two years ago was a pretty big win for the Jazz.
Ralph | 7:51 a.m. April 16, 2009
So what else is new? The Jazz stink. And they haven't shown up for the
playoffs since the glory days of stockton and malone. The lakers will put them
out of their misery for good, and it will only take them four games.......
I'm pulling for Denver or Portland. Both are playing well and at least have a chance of getting out of the first round.
I'm pulling for Denver or Portland. Both are playing well and at least have a chance of getting out of the first round.
Matthew | 7:54 a.m. April 16, 2009
"...only seven of 30 NBA teams pulled off that feat this season, which says
something about both the fragile psyche of athletes and how much of the game is
mental."
What it really says is that the referees control the outcome and that they tend to pander to the home crowd. I wish the NBA could get back to playing basketball instead of this strange, referee driven, creation they now play.
What it really says is that the referees control the outcome and that they tend to pander to the home crowd. I wish the NBA could get back to playing basketball instead of this strange, referee driven, creation they now play.
to THEeyepatch | 7:55 a.m. April 16, 2009
How about game 7 against the houston rockets in the first round just two years
ago. Boy Jazz fans are pathetic, it is like they feel that the Jazz owe them
something. Lets pick up our pride and lets cheer them on, they need it. I
personally think that we should be happy that we made it to the playoffs
considering all that we have been through. Maybe we should be the Suns with two
players that are former MVP's and not make it into the playoffs. Jazz fans
are just spoiled rotten brats, they love the team when they are good and boo
them when they feel like the team is doing them a disservice by losing.
Go Jazz at least you have one fan that is still here for you unlike the rest of the state.
Go Jazz at least you have one fan that is still here for you unlike the rest of the state.
Hey Todd | 8:13 a.m. April 16, 2009
The great Chris Paul and the Hornets lost to the Spurs (yes, I watched the
game)last night) after collapsing at the end of regulation and failing to show
up in the overtime period. Chris Paul and the Hornets have also tanked at the
end of the season and are only one seed above the Jazz for the playoffs. What I
see game in and game out is DWill sacrificing his body and getting battered and
bruised while trying to help his team win. I don't see that with Chris
Paul.Shame on you for dissing DWill.He's in the SAME league as Paul and
Parker.
Road Kill my | 8:19 a.m. April 16, 2009
Success is as much mental as it is physical. That's true in my profession;
it's true in the NBA. There's a component of talent but the talent
gap between Kobe/Lebron and Deron/Carlos isn't nearly as big as the mental
gap. Great players like MJ, Bird, Magic, etc. had a mental toughness.
MJ's Nike commercial about failure and success is a perfect
illustration.
The current Jazz roster is woefully lacking in mental toughness. Deron has the most. But the other self-proclaimed stars (Boozer, AK, Memo) aren't worthy to carry MJ's gym bag for mental toughness. That needs to change or this current roster is a perpetual lower-seed playoff team.
Jerry's not any help. He has stated that players mental state isn't his responsibility. He's wrong but he doesn't know it. Management's primary job is to help their workers (players) reach their maximum potential. The only caveat to that is the players willingness to change. Jerry needs to help Boozer, AK, and Memo be tougher, mentally.
Mental toughness is the difference between @home and on-the-road performance. Jerry and the players need to GET TOUGH
The current Jazz roster is woefully lacking in mental toughness. Deron has the most. But the other self-proclaimed stars (Boozer, AK, Memo) aren't worthy to carry MJ's gym bag for mental toughness. That needs to change or this current roster is a perpetual lower-seed playoff team.
Jerry's not any help. He has stated that players mental state isn't his responsibility. He's wrong but he doesn't know it. Management's primary job is to help their workers (players) reach their maximum potential. The only caveat to that is the players willingness to change. Jerry needs to help Boozer, AK, and Memo be tougher, mentally.
Mental toughness is the difference between @home and on-the-road performance. Jerry and the players need to GET TOUGH
Used to be Jazz Fan | 8:26 a.m. April 16, 2009
KO'C wanted to wait to make a trade to see what the team would do when
healthy. Well, now he knows. Looks good on paper, but lacks any heart.
Hey, THEeyepatch | 8:44 a.m. April 16, 2009
I couldn't agree with you more, and I'm the "other" fan who
is still in the Jazz corner.If the Jazz win the series with the Lakers,, these
fair weather fans will be right back on board, basking in the glory. There is
nothing that can be done about the team this year; we are going into the
playoffs with what we have and the team needs as much fan support as if we were
the one seed and LA was the eight.
Hey, Ralph | 8:56 a.m. April 16, 2009
And just how many titles was it that the great Stockton and Malone won in
NINETEEN years?
Miles | 9:08 a.m. April 16, 2009
Jerry seems to be the common denominator in the entire Jazz history of no
championships. Maybe He really is the problem? Maybe his style doesn't
win championships?
Re: the eye patch | 9:10 a.m. April 16, 2009
To the first eye patch poster, your not a Jazz fan so stop pretending to be.
Lets have a little faith in our team. Yeah they have not been playing good at
all, but why get down on them when they need us the most? Im so sick of you
fair weather fans, who are always backing the team that will win a championship.
If that is what you want, jump ship and become another one of the millions of
pathetic gold chain wearing laker fans who cant even name one player on the team
besides kobe. Also, eye patch the great idiot Us real Jazz fans know your not
one because you didnt even know about game seven against houston two years ago.
Your a pathetic human who is most likely a lakers fan deep down inside, i also
bet you were a warriors fan two years ago, a cardinals fan last year, a giants
fan a year before that, and you just jumped on the tampa bay rays and pittsburgh
steelers train as well. Do us Jazz fans a favor a stop cheering for our team.
GO JAZZ, shock the world and your fair weather fans.
Miles | 9:10 a.m. April 16, 2009
And letting Derek Fisher go was really a bad decision. Should have at least
traded him for something. Lakers got a starter for free. How stupid was that.
The Truth | 9:22 a.m. April 16, 2009
Man Magnus and Todd way to go into the night with the posts last night. While 20
years of Jerry is enough for me and it should be enough for anyone. (Only in SLC
could that happen.) I think the larger issue goes to Jazz management. KO had a
chance to bring in some defensive help at the trading deadline and he
didn't. In fact when you look over the last several years of drafting the
Jazz have a history of taking offensive players. While I know it's
hindsight, let's look at this a little bit.
2002: Borchardt? if you are looking long and athletic? Prince. We missed Booz and got him back!!
2003: Pavlovic? Kendrick Perkins, Barbosa. Jazz got it right in the 2nd rd. Mo Willams and let him go.
2004: Humphries? Snyder. Al Jefferson/Josh Smith
2005: CJ....Ronny Turiaf.
2006:..The jazz got it right with Brewer and Milsap.
2007: Mo Almond...Carl Landry, Glen Davis
we also got Fess...Mark Gasol was there
2008: Koufos...still to early to tell on his defense? Bataum, George Hill, Chalmers, DeAndre Jordan. 2nd Rd. Tomic...Walker, Hardin...continued below.
2002: Borchardt? if you are looking long and athletic? Prince. We missed Booz and got him back!!
2003: Pavlovic? Kendrick Perkins, Barbosa. Jazz got it right in the 2nd rd. Mo Willams and let him go.
2004: Humphries? Snyder. Al Jefferson/Josh Smith
2005: CJ....Ronny Turiaf.
2006:..The jazz got it right with Brewer and Milsap.
2007: Mo Almond...Carl Landry, Glen Davis
we also got Fess...Mark Gasol was there
2008: Koufos...still to early to tell on his defense? Bataum, George Hill, Chalmers, DeAndre Jordan. 2nd Rd. Tomic...Walker, Hardin...continued below.
upbeat fan | 9:35 a.m. April 16, 2009
We seem to be sticking to the game plan run by Stockton to Malone. Does anyone else notice there isn't a Malone on our team. Does Jerry think by yelling at the refs more things will change and get better. Something needs to change Jerry and you are the captain.
If it ain't broke don't fix it. Fortunately Jerry you don't have that problem. Something is broke go ahead and make the necessary changes.
Lots of bitter fans today | 9:38 a.m. April 16, 2009
I know we are all hurting today. We all hoped for better this year. However,
please remember that only the regular season is over. Our Jazz need us now more
than ever. The Lakers will need to win all of their home games, because they
WILL NOT win in SLC! If the Jazz can't win in LA so be it, but the Jazz
will lose in 7 to the top team in the west. Let's all show people why the
ESA is still the toughest place to play! We take the Lakers to a game 7 then
anything can happen. Go Jazz!!!
Re: Matthew | 9:40 a.m. April 16, 2009
right on the money. I put this stat up yesterday but I guess I have to put it
again. The Jazz 23 back to back games, the Hornets 19 back to back games, the
Lakers and the Cavs 16 back to back games each. The Jazz played for games in 5
nights 3 times this year. That's the same ammount the Hornets, Lakers and
Cavs did combined (1 each by the way).
I read the NFL makes sure when a team is at a disavatange ie playing on a Thursday after a Sunday (only 4 days of rest) they have computers make sure they are scheduled at home on the Sunday game so it is as fair as possible. Why can't the NBA balance their schedule so it's fair? Shouldn't every team play about the same ammount of back to backs or 4 games in 5 nights? Why do certain teams always get all the critical calls?
I believe the Lakers are in for a wake up call. The Jazz are the best team when they have at least a day of rest. Jazz in 6!
Chad L
I read the NFL makes sure when a team is at a disavatange ie playing on a Thursday after a Sunday (only 4 days of rest) they have computers make sure they are scheduled at home on the Sunday game so it is as fair as possible. Why can't the NBA balance their schedule so it's fair? Shouldn't every team play about the same ammount of back to backs or 4 games in 5 nights? Why do certain teams always get all the critical calls?
I believe the Lakers are in for a wake up call. The Jazz are the best team when they have at least a day of rest. Jazz in 6!
Chad L
The Truth continued.... | 9:40 a.m. April 16, 2009
Here is the deal....when you look at the majority type of players the Jazz have
drafted over the past several years:
Humphries, no D. Snyder? D?
Tomic, no D according to websites.
Koufos-not known for his D,
Almond, no D
Pavlovic, has gotten better, soft when he got here.
CJ, charmin boy.
Borchardt-soft & broken,
RLopez, defensive specialist not!!
Mo Williams (tough as nails...let go.)
Brewer....still needs to get tougher.
Toughness....D-Will and Milsap...that's it...
Then you compare that list to picking a certain type of player toughness..and or speed,length and size.
Josh Smith
Ronny Turiaf. (whom the Jazz should get)
Kendrick Perkins,
Josh Howard,
Tayshann Prince,
Darius Songalia,
Scola,
Landry,
Batum,
Hill,
Chalmers,
D.Jordan,
Add to that, Korver,Booz and Memo....and well you see what kind of team we have!!
Memo to the Jazz we don't need anymore soft Euro or offensive type players. If Defense wins championships? And Sloan's system provides scoring why is our roster filled with Cream Puffs.
Can we do something about getting some players with heart and toughness!!
Humphries, no D. Snyder? D?
Tomic, no D according to websites.
Koufos-not known for his D,
Almond, no D
Pavlovic, has gotten better, soft when he got here.
CJ, charmin boy.
Borchardt-soft & broken,
RLopez, defensive specialist not!!
Mo Williams (tough as nails...let go.)
Brewer....still needs to get tougher.
Toughness....D-Will and Milsap...that's it...
Then you compare that list to picking a certain type of player toughness..and or speed,length and size.
Josh Smith
Ronny Turiaf. (whom the Jazz should get)
Kendrick Perkins,
Josh Howard,
Tayshann Prince,
Darius Songalia,
Scola,
Landry,
Batum,
Hill,
Chalmers,
D.Jordan,
Add to that, Korver,Booz and Memo....and well you see what kind of team we have!!
Memo to the Jazz we don't need anymore soft Euro or offensive type players. If Defense wins championships? And Sloan's system provides scoring why is our roster filled with Cream Puffs.
Can we do something about getting some players with heart and toughness!!
Hey, Miles | 9:56 a.m. April 16, 2009
In retrospect, I don't mind letting Fisher go but, you're right,
letting him go without getting a darn thing in return from the Lakers was
downright boneheaded.
HOCKEY FAN! | 10:38 a.m. April 16, 2009
People--go see the Utah Grizzlies in action tonight at the E-Center. They are
the hardest playing team in the great state of Utah. They are playing a critical
home game playoff tonight. Save some cash, save some NBA ego, and see some real
athletes at work for the love of the sport.
Lakers | 11:48 a.m. April 16, 2009
in 5.
UH... | 11:49 a.m. April 16, 2009
Guess what it could be worse. We could have the bobcats, OK Thunder, or the
timberwolves. I love the jazz but i have taken a step back the last few years
and accepted the fact that we are a average team. I knew about 2 weeks ago when
they could have been around the 5th spot we wouldnt. to many high expectations
for uninspired TEAM effort(my point of view, not all the players). we will win
one and make a second one close but series will go 4-1.
Miles | 11:58 a.m. April 16, 2009
@The Truth.........If you read about the Jazz and how they draft it is only
about offense. They don't draft anyone for their defense. We are always
looking for a 3 point shooter or another scorer. KO needs to go. Jerry needs
to go.
oh yeah | 11:58 a.m. April 16, 2009
once the nuggets got Billups i had that feeling that we would slip. Billups has
been a journey men but he knows how to win. Lets get some tough, physical
players who are hungery. Lets face it we draft/trade for soft euro guys who play
around the 3 piont line. give me a hard nose center/power forward who just wants
to play defense and get his 6 to 8 points on offensive rebounds. I cant stand to
watch the defennse in the NBA but the jazz are bad. hopefully this upcoming
draft we will draft someone we know who is a mean son of a gun inside. AND GET
RID OF BOOZ AND AK47! management needs to take a lot of heat for how they are
doing things. Atleast Kjazz is back on DTV!!!
Marshmemo | 12:03 p.m. April 16, 2009
Face it this season is over, time to move on. I'm just suprised to see how
long it took so many to realize the jazz were so soft. The bigger problem the
jazz face is Andre's contract, 15m next year 17m the year after. Virtually
the same money Lebron makes, that has to make you scratch your head. We better
hope Loser and his matador defense opts out. DWILL, Brewer, Milsap, maybe Korver
should be core as jazz go forward. Marshmemo would be more adequate if he is
surrounded by some long and athletic pieces. I can't stand Kenyon Martin
but the jazz could use a dose of his type of player.
D Robinson must be English Major | 12:45 p.m. April 16, 2009
"No one is asking for a winning record on the road... But is it too much to
ask the Jazz to win, say, half of their road games?"
Ummm, with 41 road games per year, you have to have a winning record to win half the games. 21-20 is a .512 winning average.
And I don't think it's too much to ask that we be among the seven teams with a winning record. The Jazz should have been a two or three seed this year, which would put them in that company.
Ummm, with 41 road games per year, you have to have a winning record to win half the games. 21-20 is a .512 winning average.
And I don't think it's too much to ask that we be among the seven teams with a winning record. The Jazz should have been a two or three seed this year, which would put them in that company.
Anonymous | 1:08 p.m. April 16, 2009
Wow! I've never heard of any professional teams fan base roll over and play
dead, even before the fun begins, but this is pathetic. Nevertheless, there is
no hope for your Jazz in this series as they overly matched against the Might
LAKERS! However, take some consolation as you (in my opiniom have the top point
gaurd in league) in Mr. Williams, however, i give him a couple of years, then
he'll head west for greener pastures, preferrably L.A. Anyways see you
guys in the sunshine state and LA LA Land! I Love L.A.
magnus | 1:58 p.m. April 16, 2009
@ Truth & Miles
C'mon Truth, you know as well as I do that you could take litterally every team on the NBA and go through the same "they chose _____ when they could have had ____" if you look at the success rate of the Jazz draft picks relative to the pick they were chosen and compare that to other teams around the league the Jazz have done very well.
There are a couple of things that you guys have failed to consider. First in 2004 the Jazz desperately needed offense. They had nobody capable of creating their own shot and they had a two outstanding defenders in AK and Harpring. Also when they brought in Boozer everyone thought that he was a decent defender, they were wrong, but that was the line on him at the time.
It also a little odd that you would say that the Jazz only drafted for offense and then mention D-Will, Millsap, and Brewer as being pretty good defenders...when they represent almost half of the Jazz draft picks in the last 4 years.
C'mon Truth, you know as well as I do that you could take litterally every team on the NBA and go through the same "they chose _____ when they could have had ____" if you look at the success rate of the Jazz draft picks relative to the pick they were chosen and compare that to other teams around the league the Jazz have done very well.
There are a couple of things that you guys have failed to consider. First in 2004 the Jazz desperately needed offense. They had nobody capable of creating their own shot and they had a two outstanding defenders in AK and Harpring. Also when they brought in Boozer everyone thought that he was a decent defender, they were wrong, but that was the line on him at the time.
It also a little odd that you would say that the Jazz only drafted for offense and then mention D-Will, Millsap, and Brewer as being pretty good defenders...when they represent almost half of the Jazz draft picks in the last 4 years.
TODD TO "HEY TODD" | 3:00 p.m. April 16, 2009
UNFAIR....I AM A HUGE DERON WILLIAMS FINE, HUGE...I DO NOT THINK HE IS ELEVATED
HIS TEAMMATES AND HAS SHOWN THE LEADERSHIP NEEDED TO GET THEM OUT OF THE FUNK.
I LIKE CHRIS PAUL..FOR DIFFERENT REASON. DERON HAS SLOWED THE GAME DOWN TOO
MUCH AND IS HAVING PROBLEMS DEFENSIVELY FIGHTING THRU PICKS.
What makes a few think... | 3:17 p.m. April 16, 2009
that for some unseen reason, the Jazz will suddenly get some life and skill and
go deep in the playoffs.
Bad thinking. Your posts should have been eliminated as worthless. the Jazz have gone as deep as it is possible under their current coaching and management. Face it. It is over again this year because if one keeps doing the things they are doing they will wind up in the direction they headed all season, mediocure for sure. the Jazz under Jerry and Co. are toast. I have said enough about the clueless Boozer. Any one tolerating the kind of abuse and heartless performance he gives out for 12 million a year deserves to lose out.
Bad thinking. Your posts should have been eliminated as worthless. the Jazz have gone as deep as it is possible under their current coaching and management. Face it. It is over again this year because if one keeps doing the things they are doing they will wind up in the direction they headed all season, mediocure for sure. the Jazz under Jerry and Co. are toast. I have said enough about the clueless Boozer. Any one tolerating the kind of abuse and heartless performance he gives out for 12 million a year deserves to lose out.
TODD TO THE TRUTH | 3:21 p.m. April 16, 2009
EXCELLENT JOB TRUTH, BUT ONLY DISAGREE ONE AREA. YOU DO NOT WANT TURIAF. I
HAVE REPORTED PREVIOUSLY HIS INJURY ISSUES. LAST NIGHT VS THE SUNS HE WAS IN A
LOT OF PAIN THIS TIME WITH THE KNEE. ALSO KENYON MARTIN HIS BODY COULD BREAK
DOWN ANY TIME LOTS OF PROBLEMS....
TODD FROM SANTA ANA | 3:35 p.m. April 16, 2009
GOT TO RUN, BUT I AGREE I HAVE BEEN VERY MAYBE OVERCRITICAL OF SLOAN AND HIS
"SLOANAHOLICS". I HAVE MY REASONS. MANY. WE WILL ALL HAVE LOTS OF
TIME TO BE CRITICAL AFTER THE PLAYOFFS. I AM TOUGH, BUT FAIR. I REALIZE IT IS
NOT ALL SLOAN I AM NOT STUPID. IT IS THE PLAYERS ALSO. O CONNOR HAS NOT
DRAFTED BADLY I AGREE WITH MAGNUS. IT IS THE UTILIZATION OF THESE TALENTED
PICKS AND DEVELOPING. THE BIGGEST EXAMPLE I SEE IF ALMOND. A GREAT COLLEGE
PLAYER. WE HAVE GOOD TALENT IN OUR SYSTEM BETTER THAN MOST, I WATCHED ROCKY
MOUNTAIN VENUE. NOT BAD...MY PROBLEM WITH O CONNOR IS NOT BEING CREATIVE ENOUGH
OR FINDING A WAYS TO MAKE DEALS OR STOP GAP PICK UPS THAT COULD HAVE IMPROVED
OUR WEAKNESSES. THE LAKERS DO NOT ALWAYS DRAFT GREAT EITHER. RONNIE LESTER WAS
A FIRST ROUND PICK AND HE STUNK. I WILL ROOT FOR THE JAZZ AND HOPE IF THEY DO
NOT IN THE LAKERS WILL BE SOMEWHAT SCARED OR RELIEVED AFTER IT IS OVER. I KNOW
THEY RESPECT US AND FRANKLY, PLAY HARDER AND MORE UP FOR US THAN MANY TEAMS...
The Truth @ Magnus | 4:42 p.m. April 16, 2009
Magnus, the 2004 draft was the worst one in recent memory for the Jazz!! (And I
did throw in the hindsight 20/20 thing as well)
Had the Jazz not picked up either Booz and or Memo, KO should have been fired! You are right Magnus, the Jazz have been very good at finding soft offensive players in the draft where they are picking.
I was trying to give the Jazz some credit, trying not to be so negative about the softies on this team/picks. So I threw in D-will, average defender, but he is tough-ask Bynum, Brewer, steals & team defense, although I'm still not sold on his willingness to mix it up with Kobe and throw in a hard foul once in awhile ala Raja Bell or Artest. And Milsap is a stud! But look at the track record/team make up since 2004! They have gone soft/offensive! Jerry's gone soft! Where is the Karl Malone elbow! the Big Dog's bark! Stock's screens, Even when we sucked at least we would get in a fight with the Dream! Barkley said it best, "Karl Malone must be rolling over in his grave."
Had the Jazz not picked up either Booz and or Memo, KO should have been fired! You are right Magnus, the Jazz have been very good at finding soft offensive players in the draft where they are picking.
I was trying to give the Jazz some credit, trying not to be so negative about the softies on this team/picks. So I threw in D-will, average defender, but he is tough-ask Bynum, Brewer, steals & team defense, although I'm still not sold on his willingness to mix it up with Kobe and throw in a hard foul once in awhile ala Raja Bell or Artest. And Milsap is a stud! But look at the track record/team make up since 2004! They have gone soft/offensive! Jerry's gone soft! Where is the Karl Malone elbow! the Big Dog's bark! Stock's screens, Even when we sucked at least we would get in a fight with the Dream! Barkley said it best, "Karl Malone must be rolling over in his grave."
Jazzsmack | 6:39 p.m. April 16, 2009
To THE TRUTH:
you are right on!
With the reseach and study the teams and league does on prospective players,
it should much easier to get it right.
But the jazz run things on a business model and are much more intersted in playing it safe,
and keep on winning enough to keep the fans coming,
but winning championships neccessitates taking risks.
Why do the lakers trade a team for a great center?
You really do have to trade lousy seasons for championships.
something the jazz management is unwilling to do.
you are right on!
With the reseach and study the teams and league does on prospective players,
it should much easier to get it right.
But the jazz run things on a business model and are much more intersted in playing it safe,
and keep on winning enough to keep the fans coming,
but winning championships neccessitates taking risks.
Why do the lakers trade a team for a great center?
You really do have to trade lousy seasons for championships.
something the jazz management is unwilling to do.
NL | 7:51 p.m. April 16, 2009
The party is over, the last so called player leaving the room turn the lights
out. Maybe we will see you next year but in a way I hope not.
Sad they are not paid a portion of their salary on performance. Some would be paying the JAZZ management money back. I am not a JAZZ fan but I appreciate effort and what little I seen of the JAZZ players it was lacking. No desire, no effort, no defense but they smiled getting their money while the fans suffered from inept players.
Sad they are not paid a portion of their salary on performance. Some would be paying the JAZZ management money back. I am not a JAZZ fan but I appreciate effort and what little I seen of the JAZZ players it was lacking. No desire, no effort, no defense but they smiled getting their money while the fans suffered from inept players.
Doormat | 8:00 p.m. April 16, 2009
As long as Boooo!!z will be on the floor the lakers will take it to the interior
every time because we all know how well he defends
TODD TO JAZZSMACK | 9:52 p.m. April 16, 2009
REMEMBER THE CONNECTIONS AND TOO MUCH HOLLYWOOD. JERRY WEST THE LAKER OL BUDDY
AND GOOD OL BOY NETWORK WITH THE GRIZZLIES HAD A LOT TO DO WITH THE GASOL DEAL.
THIS IS WHY WHAT I SAY ON O CONNOR, make friends, kevin get connections,
shmooze, play the game if you have to-it is not a business for the soft or weak
but strong and brave and the "daring" they gave Gasol to the Lakers
for what garbage?
Todd -- | 11:16 p.m. April 16, 2009
Stop shouting in here with the capital letters. You're obssessing again.
Shooters are born. . . | 5:47 p.m. April 17, 2009
. . . defenders are shooters who were made.
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