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Cross ways cricket eaters | 5:27 p.m. Jan. 13, 2009

My, my, aren't we all a judgmental group on here. Do you people always sling mud from both directions?

Anonymous | 5:32 p.m. Jan. 13, 2009

Why do you tease people by telling you have some great truth, and invite us to come tour your Holy Temples, but then fail to answer our sincere questions?

Mormon temple ordinances are NOT "well covered in the NT and OT." Not even close. If you know otherwise, you really should tell us. If you don't know otherwise, then you need to stop making those claims.

"Simply because the specifics are not mentioned in the NT does not mean they did not exist."

With recent archeological discoveries over the past 60 years, a LOT of things are "mentioned", but that doesn't mean they are true! Just because Josephus mentions" baptism for the dead doesn't make it part of original, true Christianity. If it did, then Valentinianism (and other gnosticisms) would have more of a claim to being the "restored" truth than what Mormonism offers.

"Anyone who has attended the temple will recognize the teaching of Jesus and NT/OT prophets."

That is little help to those of us who are not allowed in Mormon temples to see those teachings. I would think that is obvious.

I would really like some answers before I tour the Draper temple. Any help?

Warm Winter... | 7:21 p.m. Jan. 13, 2009

Mormon crickets will be bountiful this year. End of days my friends, end of days.

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Re: Anon | 11:16 p.m. Jan. 13, 2009

Your questions are legitimate, but some things that happen in the temple are sacred (not secret), which is why you're not getting specific details. My advice is to attend the open house and see what you can find out. There really aren't any deep dark mysteries in the temple. More like personal experiences. There are commitments between a person and his/her maker that are not mysterious or secret per se, just personal. There are several things, for example, I would be uncomfortable asking you about yourself. It doesn't mean you are hiding anything, it's just between you and God or you and another person.

@ Anonymous of 3:20 | 6:40 a.m. Jan. 14, 2009

"Nobody "conflated tithing with assault and robbery." Tithing us used to build temples. Right? Why so rude and defensive?"

You seriously can't see how the following statement at 8:26 might be rude and associates tithing with armed robbery?

"As for tithing, you can say anything is "voluntary". Giving your money to the robber who has a knife to your throat is "voluntary". Are you saying I could worship in an LDS Temple if I did not pay tithing?"

If you have sincere questions, an article comments section on the D-News site is probably not the best place for an academic discussion of temple rites and covenants.

You are right... | 7:16 a.m. Jan. 14, 2009

This probably isn't the best forum to talk about specific rituals. But what it is is a good place for people to be able to see that not all people are ever going to see things the same way. Of course it's up to you to believe that someday we all will see it the same. But we are talking about what is best in the here and now. If someone decides to join a church then it is their personal business, but please don't think that one church is better than another. Let's all Love One Another as Jesus taught...all else means little. I believe that all religions (whether Christian or not) can agree on this teaching and it would make the world a much better place to all agree on that point.

Sarah Nichole | 8:47 a.m. Jan. 14, 2009

In regards to the temple questions, without going into specific detail, there was a point right after Christ's resurrection, where He came down to teach the Apostles for 40 days. There is no existing record of what was taught to them at that time, though, since that is when the temple ordinances began being practiced by the people (whether physically inside or at a sanctified place outside, I don't know), I've heard many people speculate that that is what Christ was teaching them. There is no official doctrine about that, so far as I know, but I've heard it repeated many times over the years.

I, for one, think that there was a lot that Christ did and taught that was not recorded, or was lost over the years, because there are some things which are too sacred to put down in explicit detail. Also, everything after the Gospels, and maybe Acts, was written as letters to existing Christians. There would be no need to give instructions on how to do something that they were already doing, and there is ample evidence from those early Christian scholars which shows they were doing these things.

Maybe so... | 9:05 a.m. Jan. 14, 2009

But does this make this the only way to live and think? No...and this is evidenced by the billions of people in the world that practice different religions and different ways of thinking. We can all believe and practice as we will and we should let others do the same. Thanks for sharing your beautiful buildings sometimes and some of your teachings, but I am not interested.
God Bless All

Anonymous | 1:50 p.m. Jan. 14, 2009

Why isn't this site an appropriate place for a discussion of temple rites? What are you Mormons afraid of? This is the perfect forum for such a discussion. Do you have answers or not?

Anonymous | 2:38 p.m. Jan. 14, 2009

Sarah,

Ample evidence? Can you please provide some? So far there has been none.

Ike D. | 4:10 p.m. Jan. 14, 2009

I think the more believable explanation for why there is no evidence of New Testament temple worship taught by Jesus is because Joseph stole it from the Masonic Lodge.

Stan | 4:33 p.m. Jan. 14, 2009

To Anon 1:50 PM

A forum for discussion is one thing, but there are certain aspects of the temple that are deeply spiritual and personal and are not likely to be discussed in detail here.

The answers are available to you. Attend the open house and ask the volunteers. Or, read Boyd K. Packer's book, "The Holy Temple." Or, call the missionaries. Speaking for myself (and most members), I'd like you to have the answers you seek. There's nothing to hide.

If you are looking for Biblical specifics on exact temple practices, you're right, you're not likely to find them. The Bible contains only a sliver of the history of God's dealings with His people. Either one accepts the concept of modern revelation (i.e., things revealed since the Bible was abridged) or one doesn't. A review of the evidence and sincere prayer will lead to a God-given response.

I hope this helps...

Anonymous | 10:21 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009

Stan,

I appreciate your sincerity, but to be honest, your comment does not help. If Temple worship is so important to true Christianity there can be no doubt Jesus would have been explicit about that fact and we would find evidence of it in his teachings and actions. But to my knowledge there is no such evidence. Claiming that temple worship is so personal, sacred (and secret) and that is why there is no evidence is not valid. The New Testament (and other texts) is filled with accounts of Jesus teaching such personal, sacred, and secret things to his disciples (the Mount of Transfiguration). No matter how personal, sacred, or secret temple worship is, if it is as central to true Christianity as Mormons claim, there would be clear and explicit mention of it in Jesus' teachings and doings. There is not.

disciple | 12:18 p.m. Jan. 15, 2009

I suppose that I would have to assume,based on many of the previous 300 comments that prayers going up from a mansion are a lot more valid than those going up from a lowly stable in Bethlehem.

Whoever | 12:31 p.m. Jan. 19, 2009

If you don't like us or what we do then move out of the state and share your comments to those that care!! Have a great life on the paved road!!Ha Ha!!

KP | 1:30 p.m. Jan. 19, 2009

For those of you who think Mormons are "money hungry": what do you think we use the money for? It is to further the work of the Lord. I think the finest materials should be used in building a house of the Lord. The Temples mentioned in the Old Testament were ornate and impressive. Only the best should be used in order to honor Him who gave all.

Tania | 1:11 p.m. March 6, 2009

The temple is a sacred and holy place where families are sealed together for eternity, baptisms for the dead preformed and saving ordences recieved. ALL people are invited to qualify for these eternal blessings, although ALL will not choose to recieve them.

Members of the LDS faith use the King James version of the Bible. The Bible Dictionary as well as the Topical Guide give a comprehensive reference to the four standard works, Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine & Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price. There is information relation to temples in the OT times as well as the NT.

From the time of Adam to Jesus temple work was done for the living only. After the crusifiction, Jesus opened the way for the gospel to be taught to departed spirits in the spirit world. Since that time, temple work has been performed for the living as well as the dead.

Modern day revelation is a distinct characteristic of our faith. We have a living prophet that leads and guides us today, who speaks with God and in turn reveals Gods will to us. We are so blessed!!!

I love the temple! Just seeing them brings a spirit of love!!!

Barb from Idaho | 8:43 a.m. Nov. 22, 2009

My niece just got married there. It was one of the most beautiful and peaceful places I have ever been.

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